Unironically what the fuck was his problem?

reminder Yea Forums is a based slim charles board

my name is on the street? love how he said that

Joe fucked them over. That's why the co-op let him do it. That couldn't happen again and even Joe knew he was fucked.

gotta emphasize this marlo dude said "when we bounce from this shit here ...

All the had to do was sell the shit, walk away, and keep it boring. But of course nogs are their own worst enemy. In the end the Armenians win out.

which nigga had the highest iq?

marlo was those type of dealers that would kill a whole organization to steal a connect. he was a ruthless businessman.
just imagine being a solo dealer having to war against him, you'd be so worried that he gets the drop.

> Oh hey guys sorry I lost you millions of dollars but trust me and just take my word for it we can't do anything about it.

Joe wasn't stupid he knew he knew he was done after that.

Some of the best 60sec of acting on any tv show ever

I thought we were a based Shamrock board?

when did joe fuck them over?
he got marlo in the coop,avoiding gang war between the coop and marlo,he ran out the new york niggas out of baltimore with marlos help
he had a connect for high grade product
only our nigga slim charles was grateful to prop joe

what the fuck you know about what i need on my mind motherfucka

Y'all sneedposters is triflin wiff Yea Forums's repatation here

After Omar's heist he basically tried to fan the flames out and wanted to them just to be cool about it and not bother to pursue.

Based Slim is best character though.

Chilling scene. Which really highlights how much Omar understood Marlo's mindset and how, if he had gone to the streets, Marlo would in all likliehood would have got 'got.'

Marko represented totalitarianism. Totalitarianism is usually self destructive.

The writers saving Bodie for Marlo was one of the most diabolical things I've ever seen on the TV.

Slim Charles is a fictional character...Omar and Marlo are very real niggas

Unironically Avon.

> Muh corners.
They were running a skeleton crew by that point. Stringer's delusions of grandeur were what did them in and directly led to Marlo's rise.

This was one of the realist quotes from the show. I had a love/hate thing for Marlo, i didnt like when he was jus killing people for no reason in season four. But I understood where he was coming from when he said "my name is my name".

DAMN that's some good acting! Dude who plays Marlo seems to be one of the nicest guys around, but in this scene his face and every expression/movement is etched with cold anger and hate.

objective tier list

>s4>s3>s1>s5>>>>>s2

youtube.com/watch?v=7rWuJ3eD6Qc

> That was for Joe.
Won me over with a single line.

okay okay thats some real nigga shit

Love this scene.

See Marlo didn't even know what Omar said. Chris and Snoop asses were scared to go up against him so they didn't even say nothing about Omar running his mouth.

I know everyone thinks Randy is destined to be the new Joe because of salesmanship talent but I tend to think he's destined to become a major player.

Failed by the system now he has no trust, and forever tainted as a snitch, he has no friends. The only thing he knows is how to hustle and there's no way he won't venture down the only path he can go down now.

Avon Barksdale is the sole reason I cannot watch Power or any other sort of crime show anymore...I cannot take anyone pretending to be a king pin seriously because no one played it better and more convincingly than Avon

Why does Yea Forums always pretend to be black in the wire threads? It's so embarrassing.

mofo im black wats up

They did a phenomenal job at developing Marlo. Actually that applies to everyone but I love how the second time we see the dude it's already apparent we're dealing with something a lot different.

McNulty was about to get fucking murdered in that courtyard if they didn't back off when they did.

It's idomatic, foo.

we here bitch ass nigga...moot brought us here. you hoes raided my little sister account back in 2008 calling her nigger ben here since

GOT THAT WMD

THAT WMD

PANDEMIC PANDEMIC HERE

.5/10

Don't get discouraged though. You'll get there eventually.

Brother Mouzone is Coming

GOT THAT PANDEMIC

PLYMOUTH ROCK

"Got more bodies on him than a Chinese cemetery." I love this show.

wish i looked and had the mannerisms of kevin from bodies crew desu lads,instead of a chubby white boy

Makes me sick ____________ ___ ___ __ ____ ____

> I don’t know about cards, but I think these 4 5s beat a full house.

Omar had some great lines.

>big brained
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He was a basic motherfucker at his core.
He cared more about his rep and status than even the acquisition of wealth and power. The biggest criminals we saw had no interest in drawing attention, developing a reputation or even what was said about them, their identity in these criminal enterprises was artificial and utilitarian, not an object of pride and ego that was prioritized over everything else.

Marlo, like everyone else who bought into the street code bullshit, was an idiot. Stringer saw this, but he simply couldn't cut it above the street level. Marlo killing Prop Joe was ego but it was all in the game as they say. There can only be one king, and to be fair Prop Joe was a duplicitous and devious devil that tried to get him killed.

Real as fuck. Only way it gets more real is go to jail yourself and hang out with some felons

>He was a basic motherfucker at his core.
nah

IT WILL MASS DESTRUCT YO ASS

They never outright said where he even comes from but it most likely wasn't Baltimore. Chris was southside as fuck and his right hand and Snoop didn't come on board till then.

Not to mention that none of them had the B-more accent. O Dawg also seemed very southern.

Pretty sure they mention Marlo is from the west side. Chris on the other hand is called a country nigga by bodie and dresses and carries himself much differently so i think Chris is not from Baltimore. On a sidr not even though it isnt stated does any one else think Chris was in the army?

so much samefagging in this thread what the fuck

0/10

Back down to zero friend. You had promise too.

what the fuck does this even mean

It means you're too obvious. The trick is to actually seem like you know what you're talking about. I recommend actually sitting around to get the idea of what even a samefag is.

Also your posts are freakishly easy to spot.

I mean just read this fucking thread from start to finish and tell me one guy didn't post like a million posts in a row himself

S2 was the best season by far.
As soon as Avon went to jail the show from the perspective of the blacks went to shit so fucking fast.

He was the most sociopathic. Stringer underestimated him badly

Avon recognized him as a west side nigga, its the "reason" he presented for allowing Marlo access to the russian who eventually connected Marlo to the greek allowing him to remove Prop Joe as the middleman. Avon saw Joe's death in this preferred to see a west side cat win.

Brother Mouzone was very shrewd, tripped up Stringer into revealing himself. Also knew exactly what to say when Omar was about to kill him.

On the cop side probably Bunny, simply for the good he did with hamsterdam

There's a counter to the bottom right.

White virgin manlets want to be black, nothing new.

>On a sidr not even though it isnt stated does any one else think Chris was in the army?
it's implied in a scene where Chris raids a house (think it was one of Omars hideouts) with a shotgun. The way he enters the rooms in a way that he has a good vision of the whole space implied some army training

>bottom right
yea and it shows I'm right

You talkin shit boy? Dont be comin around here acting all fancy up in herre

Means you tried to play, but got played.

Aint no shame init, it happens fr

Conversation between people goes back and forth.

not in this thread. Many rows of posts where no-one replies to anyone or gets replied to.

So, what you trynah say?

That we all sum punk ass bitches? And dat you da king? Nigga please

Slim Charles was always based

Eh it's all good user there's always something to discuss when it comes to the Wire.

To think I used to roll my eyes at all the 'best show ever' stuff but fuck me if they weren't exactly right.

I wonder how the hell do you get a Ton Loc voice like him. Is it too many blunts?

Didn't he drop two guys with his h2h skills at the end?

I might give Sopranos that title, but there was a time when I'd give it to The Wire. They're so different anyway so it doesn't matter.

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I really need to watch those. I did some of the first season but lost track.

The same corner where Bodie ate it like a week before too. Kind of makes all his fire and thunder trivial but it's also where he started climbing back down to reality. Wonder if there's anything significant about the name or the store right there.

Being a 6"5 black dude certainly helps

Im glad finally someone understands Marlos "My name is my name" speech exposed his weakness instead of being badass.

He also wears boots and fatigues at some point. Family oriented men and very disciplined both speak to that as well.

Is it weird that I thought Felicia AKA "Snoop" was cute?

I would snoop around in her pussy

> You'll never get to earn that dollar like a muhfucker.

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He was the embodiment of the “chasing clout” nigger phrasing that’s been adopted nowadays by zoomers

Chris was a scary motherfucker notice how in most scenes where marlo is negotiating with other gangsters like joe and spiros before marlo agrees to a deal he always looks at chris to give him a nod of approval

the golden era hbo churned out masterpiece after masterpiece

with a few shits in between (arli$$, john from cincinatii, etcetc)

mcnulty

the niggerest of them all
the most based

Fucking yeah he was. He never acted even close to shook. Full time enforcer for a psycho must make a man hard as fuck.

Only time he showed anything other than total coolness was in the shootout with Omar.

>you will never watch new episodes of the wire every sunday while picking up a new no limit record cd released the week before

Bunk

Without a doubt Lester he is natural police afterall

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i doubt snoop was a childhood friend. seemed like she was new to the crew as this line implies she hasnt put in work for marlo previously

"your turn girl"
"its about time, for real"

That's good work, real good work.

Tied with Sopranos for me. If you're not a total faggot go and read David Simon's books Homicide and The Corner, so many real life dudes who clearly inspired the characters in The Wire.

Kino ranking:

>S1>>>S4>S3>>>S2>>>>>>>>>>>S5

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>hating on s2 like a pleb

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S2 was kino you faggot. You failed your own test

S2>S1>S4>S3>>>>>>>>>>S5

You'd really think it'd be a more common transition going from journalist to show writer than it is. It makes me wonder how he decided on the focus of each season since it's all so perfectly coherent. I mean he couldn't have sat there and wrote out the entire five seasons before starting production right?

>How my hair look?

Nope. Sabotkas were nowhere near as interesting as other season plotlines. Also Ziggy is annoying.

S2 has swung from underrated to overrated in the eyes of the fans. Just accept that its actually just kinda in the middle.

bet you have no problem with the more common sopranos LARPers

You look good girl

*BANG*

>tfw when people sincerely claim breaking bad, sopranos, GoT, twin peaks etc are on equal or greater footing to The Wire

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>You'd really think it'd be a more common transition going from journalist to show writer than it is.
Nah, vastly different types of work, i bet many big shot journalists look down on the entertainment business because it's not real.

Simon's journalistic work is impeccable, the only other journalist i enjoy as much as him is Evan Wright, he also got a great show out of his best work (Generation Kill) but Simon was a lot more involved in the creation of his show.

It never quite felt as tightly wound together as the rest of the series but I think it's more due to us hopping in and out of the setting more than just the characters. I've seen it plenty of times and still the whole docking system still seems convoluted.

GoT isn't anywhere near those other shows.

we are a wee-bey board gtfo

Sopranos is absolutely on equal footing, Twin Peaks' highs are greater but it's not near consistent enough to be as good as The Wire overall, Breaking Bad is not on that level, and I wouldn't even say GoT is a good show at all for the most part.

Wee-bey ain't got shit on Bird!

Hell, even Cheese is more gangsta than Bey!

>ziggy was annoying

How do you misunderstand a show this hard? That’s like saying Omar was too gay

sopranos, wire, breaking bad, everything else in that order

GoT is way better than Breaking Bad.
>Sopranos is absolutely on equal footing
Sopranos is cartoon tier compared to the wire

>"they were SUPPOSED to be an annoying autistic character who fucks up every thing they do!"

intent does not override results fuckwit

Fuck off retard

>GOT

Cringy manchild show nowadays. Peaked at S4

>Breaking Bad

Baby’s first drama. Not bad but overrated as fuck, also nonsensical at times

>Twin Peaks

Good but not comparable, S2 is garbage as well

>Sopranos

This is the closest one to catching the wire in terms of quality, next to Deadwood maybe

Based

Wee-bey is pure and /ourguy/

I legit hate when people say this.

>"I hated this character, they hurt the show"
>"You wEre suPposed to hate tHem! That onlY MeANS thE Actor did a GooD JOB!!!!"

>intent doesn’t override result

So do you complain about Avon being retarded in S3 or Mouzone entirely? Ziggy was introduced a fuckup who got in over his head. Seems like the pleb around here is you, pleb

>alternating lower case and caps
Fuck off redditfag

I'm not sure if GoT peaked at Season 4, but that was certainly when it began its sharp decline.

I agree with you on everything except Sopranos. That show is likewise overrated and doesn't touch the Wire IMO. Nowhere near the same depth of human drama and weaving a large or consistent story and character.

I view it as similar to Breaking Bad, but not quite as kiddy. Still silly tho.

I haven't seen Deadwood.

Twelve years as a journalist I can't imagine there's anything the man hasn't seen. Accomplished guys like that make me feel incompetent.

How was Avon retarded?

And yes actually, Mouzoone sucked, but he also wasn't given as much of a plot driving or screentime heavy role as Ziggy so his negative impact was lessened.

Likewise S4 had the letdown of the Carcetti plotline, but it wasnt focal enough to drag down the whole season like the Sabotkas.

This is was S1 is the true kino season - it essentially has no weak points.

Shit taste.

I can see the argument on the sopranos being overrated but I still found its character writing phenomenal for the time. My main problem with it would be it went on far too long than it should’ve. Could make the same argument on the wire S5 though, I fucking abhorred the newspaper stuff.

Also deadwoods kino, get on that user, especially with the movie coming out soon

Don't even respond to tourists.

>Also deadwoods kino, get on that user, especially with the movie coming out soon

i may do. i have a feeling itll be overrated too but i dunno. also didnt it not even finish properly? or am i thinking of another series

>how was Avon retarded

“Muh corners”. His character is a total parody of himself by S3 and embarrassingly shallow. Before you say anything about it was because he was in a street war against Marlo, that does not excuse poor writing. Unlike ziggy which did actually have a conclusion to his continuous fuck ups.

*Bump

I loved Zig, but I watched Gen. Kill before, so I loved seeing ray ray in ghetto balmo'.

I mean those corners that he lost helped built up the dude who ended up running the entire co-op. Marlo went from nothing to kingpin because Stringer was weak in keeping those corners.

Stringer tried to bidnessman his way to the top but forgot that you cant sell product with no territory. Avon knew from experience and instinct that you couldnt let some jumpstart like marlo run all the territory.

How exactly does this make Avon retarded?

At that point muh corners is exactly what they needed. It was literally the only thing they had left. String had already fucked up the package to the point where anyone could come in and take over. String's retarded ass was too caught up in the idea of going straight and somehow out of his roots. Avon knew exactly what he was and what he wanted, his only mistake was letting String off easy to let him find his own way.

I get so fucking hungry watching this show, Weebay eating that Pit Beef with extra horseradish and McNutty and Bunk with the bag of crabs and case of MGD just turns me on. Same with the boozing, I usually buy a pack of Heineken (it sucks but w/e) and a bottle of Bushmills for my yearly watching.

I liked Zig on first watch but have grown to dislike him on each subsequent viewing. He really was a dipshit. Lighting 100 dollar bills in a working mans bar, blowing 3k+ on a fucking jacket when he was told not to spend anything, tryna be a big man and sell his own shit with no help.

He was calamity after calamity and its just kinda frustrating really.

His ending with the shootut and breaking down in his car + prison scene is absolute kino though, ill give him that.

Because while Stringer did fuck everything up he had a means to an end. Fighting over corners in a pissing contest against a faggot like Marlo ultimately means nothing in the grand scheme of things; because you can’t maintain that power forever. Avon was a retard who thought he’d stay a street kang rather trying to ascend to the next level like stringer did.

It’s a shame really, because I unironically think Avon had more potential to be another Clay Davis if he saw things how String did

Yeah, but I get where that character comes from, did you not know a pastors daughter who was a total slut or a cops kid who was dealing on the side? It makes it a little more real desu. But he was a fuckhead, but he just had to go over the top to be Ziggy and not Frank's son in that community.

fr

youtube.com/watch?v=Oj8JBBAM5jY

"What if they don't cop our re-up though?"

>tfw Slim Charles outsmarted Stringer Bells ass from a mile away

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If you want an example why look at Barksdale from S1 to S3. They lost a couple good soldiers like Wee Bay and were left with what? Mr 40 degree day? That dumbass drive by driver? Stringer knew it was time to pack shit up but Avon just could not come to terms with it. Now whether or not it’s because the streets is all Avon knows or if he genuinely believed he could beat Marlo is up for debate but it all results in the same thing: he’s retarded.

True he really had no interest whatsoever. I'd argue String was deluded but I can't say Avon was exactly evaluating the idea at all he was stubborn as hell. And really a war popping off with a skeleton crew alone might've just prompted Marlo to fill the ranks.

Can't really say rightfully how it would've went the other way. The blame goes straight down the middle.

Avon would have blown marlos ass to kingdom come if the police didnt raid his hq at the perfect time

Stringer is definitely delusuonal. He tried to hustle hustlers with a street mentality when that’s not how shit works. If anything stringer is a hypocrite, but yes, there is plenty of blame to go around in any event

>Fighting over corners in a pissing contest against a faggot like Marlo ultimately means nothing in the grand scheme of things

terrority and product both is literally what the entire barksdale empire was based on. he didn't know shit else. thats not a "pissing contest", that literally his family business for generations.

he couldnt nessescarily ascend because those two things were all he knew - "just a gangster i suppose". stringer tried to acsend but failed miserably because he didnt know that world. Avon knew his world and played to his strenghs - period.

personally i think you missed the entire point of avon if you think he couldve been the next clay davis.

i fully understand and agree. but it all doesnt make him any less anoying to watch imo.

ziggy could exist without us having to witness his silly mistakes over and over and over

Avon lost as soon as stringer told him he killed D’angelo, there was absolutely no coming back from that. He might’ve still BTFO’d Marlo but he’d of gotten ratted on anyway. Stringer isn’t that dumb to leave Avon to stew about a murder he didn’t okay

Marlo was a punk kid. Chris did all the heavy lifting for him. Chris was a very dedicated, very competent killer. One of the main problems the other guys have is good muscle, what with their guys always getting killed or locked up.

Clay Davis. He survived and thrived. Everyone else in the entire series was small fry compared to the money he was moving.

>Clay Davis.
Fucking shit yeah he played the city like it was a piano.

>Marlo was a punk kid. Chris did all the heavy lifting for him.

ever thought that theres a reason for that...?

The real gangsters are the ones with land grants and suitcases user. Street empires have expiration dates, barksdale and stannfield are indicators of this and the entire series. Things change but stay the same. Stringer saw more for himself than some gang squabbles

Also I’m not saying Avon would’ve been put on city council like clay but I would argue he’s certainly more cut out for it than stringer, look at him in prison. He ran it with uncontested authority

the feign lean montage is pure druggy kino

>City Council
City Council? SHEEEEEIIIITTTT BOY that's STATE SENATOR CLAY DAVIS.

Chris is a soldier. He has no ambition of his own. And the connection between Marlo and Chris is never really explained, it's just suggested that they go way back, like childhood friends or some shit. Marlo on his own was punk.

motherfucker how far we done fell

literally you

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Ya got me there, I’ll give it to you user

youtu.be/l1dnqKGuezo

Simon was really good about presenting things in an inevitable 'if it's not him it'd be someone else' kind of way. We're left wanting to know more but presented to us in a matter of fact way would take away from the cyclical nature of it all. Same game different players and tomorrow'll be the same story.

What's kino about this scene is that no matter how hard he tried, he'd never be remembered like Barksdale or Omar. By the end of it, the loe level thugs though Omar died in action against a group of niggas, and everybody already forgot him. He didn't earn his way up.

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I hate when people type like zoomer retards

>Street empires have expiration dates, barksdale and stannfield are indicators of this and the entire series.

Yeah and avon was aware of this himself.

"shit i didnt think id make it this far"

avon knew his place

>look at him in prison. He ran it with uncontested authority

coz he was respected by other gangsters and had connections in that

the fuck is avon gonna do with a land grants and permits and suitcases and shit

nah chris aint being that loyal to a punk. facts

... just a gangster, I suppose.

As someone who works in politics, the Wire really got local politics down pat. Especially State Senator Clay Davis. State Senators are a funny bunch. Most people don't even know they exist, and can't name their own. They just know of their Federal Senators if that. Yet at the local level, State Senators are enormously powerful and influential, and this pull travels both above and beneath them. A State Senator's endorsement can make or break a Federal race and can damn near ensure a local one. Clay Davis line about "You think I have time to ask a man WHY HE GIVIN ME MONEY OR WHERE HE GETS HIS MONEY FROM? I'LL TAKE ANY MOTHERFUCKERS MONEY IF HE GIVIN IT AWAY!"

I knew a State Senator who said something similar. Man was in hot water about campaign finance reform, being grilled by the press and he said point blank "I'll take money from anybody." I guess he was trying to go for an affable "I like everyone vibe" but that soundbite did not play well.

The Hamsterdam thing really has some legs as far as social commentary goes. It's like despite the outcome and all the good it's done the only solution that a participant absolutely cannot have is one that admits their own failure or lack of necessity. The system is a monster.

So you don’t see where it’s retarded a character who knows he can’t hold a criminal empire forever tries to hold a criminal empire forever? He didn’t have to try to be something he wasn’t like stringer but taking your ball and going would’ve been perfectly acceptable at that point

>that wasn’t possible at the current time

True but that’s also Avon’s fault for engaging in a war and progressively distancing himself from stringer

Either way I have to admit this the best conversation I’ve had on this shitposting board in a long time even if you are just meming. I love a good “The Wire” discussion. No homo user

i think guys like avon expect to die at some point and dont see the point in living if they cant be kingpin

>"You look like a nigger."
Damn, that was rough. Especially right before she died. That is some harsh dialogue.

"start over? how the fuck you gonna start over without your peoples?"

that life was literally all avon knew. and he had people relying on him. his family name was ran deep in that community.

no i dont think avon not running off to mexico or some shit is "retarded". the streets was all ever knew and he always expected to be dead or in jail at some point. sad as a fuck and cyclical, but i cant say its retarded

Lotta hate for Stringer ITT. Dude's only mistake was not running his paperwork through a lawyer first, which especially didn't make sense when he had the top yid in Baltimore on retainer. Why he didn't run that shit past Levy (or another kike if he was scared Avon would find out), people calling him stupid when he was the brains of the Barksdale operation is missing the point.

Stringer was too proud. He was like McNulty, he thought he was always the smartest fuck in the room. And for all of his life up until the end, he probably was. It never occurred to him that he could be played.

Whose hating stringer? He’s in my top 5 characters list of the entire show? It’s just he caused a lot of the issues in barksdale. He’s a very layered character, there could be an entire thread devoted to him

>tfw when youre well built and handsome so everyone assumes youre smart

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"Mcnulty... my office"

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Friendly reminder: Yea Forums is a based Bodie board.

YELLOW TOPS

Thats hilarious bro

>unironically what the fuck was his problem?
he was a

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Haha wow so based dude