ITT: films that defeated Yea Forums

t. contrarian that got into religion because leftists were becoming atheists

lmaoo go post a screenshot from an acquinas book faggot

>t. Reddit

>doesn't know how to formal the meme properly
Sure is reddit in here

reddit.com/r/Christianity

seething

Yea Forums is a board of Christ Jesus. Please go back to your sinful discord.

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>formal
Found the filthy phoneposter. T and L aren't near each other on the keyboard.

Fuck yahweh, fuck jesus, fuck allah, fuck eastern insectoid spirituality, fuck street shitters' infinite gods, fuck new age, and fuck atheism.
Yea Forums is a Sneed board.

And whats the dealll with muslim food on the airplane?

>his brain is so tiny that he doesn't even out-think his own typing speed

False

Bill Mahar is a retard and Christ will smite him

But really Bill is a fucking stupid and Jewish shill.

Someone post hitchens calling him out for Bush is DUMB XD joke

>dude talking snake
>Ken Ham
>flyover NPCs

I'm not religious at all but Maher is just going for the low hanging fruit

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>christfags exist
>gay black man btfo lefty retard athiiests movie about christfags

>when I was 16

I did too, thought that fedora lord bullshit was the truth.

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>btfo
source?

I'm confused as to how this guy can have such absurd opinions about some movies while having sound opinions like this about others

Good we require a culture war. The altruist ideologies must die for humanity to thrive.

Good argument. How many pastors scroll Yea Forums? 0?

it amuses the fuck out of me that all the internet atheist bros from 7-10 years ago now all have some amount of regret regarding their past activism
Even fucking Richard Dawkins is basically ashamed over how outspoken he was against Christianity, in the context of the increasing prevalence of Islam

Nah, he mocked jews too
remember the segments in Jerusalem where he interviews some guy at the institute that makes dumb gadgets to circumvent the torah laws about sabbath? Or the Jews for Jesus thing?
From what I remember the movie was very lenient on catholics. The ones that appeared in it all looked enlightened compared to every other religious people.

The obvious

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>it amuses the fuck out of me that all the internet atheist bros from 7-10 years ago now all have some amount of regret regarding their past activism
That's pretty obvious as to why. Most of them only became atheists because they had very little intelligence and just repeated what their current group was holding as popular.
And now they're still doing the exact same thing, except the culture war shifted and now their group is christian out of contrarianism.
They're still retarded. They weren't right then and they aren't right now.

>This movie doesn’t seriously explore how religion affects politics; it’s just a snide attack on religious belief. Its style (Maher blames religion as the cause of all wars) is what used to be dismissed as barroom discourse. But Maher doesn’t provoke a fight; he avoids anyone who could seriously challenge his disdain—resorting instead to amusement park employees, an anti-Christian kook standing outside the Vatican, a couple religious hucksters and silly-looking clips from Hollywood biblical epics.

HOLY FUCKING BASED

>Maher is not a satirist; he’s too biased to search out and clarify society’s absurdity. He likes preaching to his choir, such as the in-studio audience of his HBO series Real Time, who applaud like performing seals to his every partisan snipe
Kino

Ironic christfaggotry is by far the worst thing /pol/ has ever shat out

>OMG HE AGREES WITH ME HE AGREES WITH ME! HE SAYS IT BETTER THAN I EVER COULD>. WHAT A KINO !!!!!!
you're so weak

nice counterargument you meme spouting faggot

>BASED
>Kino
>you meme spouting
Not even funny to mock.

Nah, you're just an edgy teenager. Edgy teenagers need to feel like they're rebelling against something, the path of least resistance being religion seeing as how all it requires is pulling DICK DAWKINS OWNS CHRISTIAN RETARD on yt and yelling at mom over the dinner table.
Time to grow up, user.

Like everything that starts ironic (soi horror, flat earth) it no longer is.
Idiots are always going to adopt humor under the impression it's an actual opinion and position.

That's you describing yourself. You're now rebelling to the status quo of postmodernist leftism. You didn't grow up, you didn't get smarter, society changed and counter culture shifted, that's all. You're still the same idiot.
Anyone that believes a religion is a literal historical account is an idiot.
You didn't become an edgy teen atheist because it was logical, you became because your family and all authority were christians. You didn't revert to christcuckoldry because it was logical, you did it because the left hated christianity and were sucking the balls of Islam and jews were paying them up.
You're a kid with no direction throwing fists at the air.

it was a fun movie if you didn't take it very seriously and as an expression of intellectual superiority
it's just a comedian making fun of retards, not something particularly deep or intelligent.

>American "Christians"

>That's you describing yourself.
Myself seven years ago, yes. Everyone has roughly the same experience as you can see here. > You're now rebelling to the status quo of postmodernist leftism.
>Anyone that believes a religion is a literal historical account is an idiot.
>You didn't become an edgy teen atheist because it was logical, you became because your family and all authority were christians.
I reiterate, it's time to grow up.
You've made all of these presumptions in your mind from what, people you've spoken to in the past? I never considered myself an atheist and haven't identified with Christianity since I was about 14.
Doesn't make everyone that does an idiot, doesn't make everyone that doesn't inherently contrarian.
Do you see how that works, user?
It makes no difference either way. You're frothing at the mouth walltexting over stuff that means less than nothing in whatever pracitcal grand scheme you place your believe.
Grown people don't care about shit like this.

>Not even funny to mock.

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Just repeating you behavior, friendo. What made you think I was an atheist? Presumably sensitivity to criticism towards Christianity.
The rest of this post was also projection, so it's ironic that you find that bad.

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A great big fucking tear dropped from my eye reading this truth.

After all these years I'm still a staunch non-believer, but sometimes I ironically larp as a conservative christian because I can see certain values in religion and because christianity helped shaping modern western society, so I'm still culturally christian, willing or not.

Because Catholics actually value education unlike 80% of religious fanatics.

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typing sneed

>friendo
>literally NO YOU
>you're mad I criticized dead kike on a stick HAHA >:)
Skills for listening come with age as well. I just told you I'm not a Christian and you're so bent on shitting on Christians that you want the only person to have engaged your autism in this entire thread to fit this contrarian prototype you've invented in your head.
Cynicism is intellectual cowardice, user. People are not so simple. There are things they know that you don't.
There's an Eastern Orthodox temple a couple of blocks from my house that I'll go to every once in a while, mostly because I like the music. Everyone is very friendly and talks to me as one of their own.

Immutable law of the universe: Is someone posts fedora pics they are guaranteed to look just like the people in the pictures.

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but that guy is wearing a fedora
are you also wearing a fedora?

So that's what you look like then.

I live in a catholic country + had a catholic upbringing and this is not always true.
but at least the catholic church accepts scientific theories like evolution or the big bang (at least now)

Me second from the right

>Reddit: the movie
>defeating Yea Forums

Ok kidd

>Immutable law of the universe: Is someone posts fedora pics they are guaranteed to look just like the people in the pictures.

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nah atheists are retards
>DUDE THERE IS NO GOD LOL
tired

>Immutable law of the universe: Is someone posts fedora pics they are guaranteed to look just like the people in the pictures.
A normal, non-fedora wearing person would never make a post that sounds like this.

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You tards think there are only a handful of religions and that the popular ones you do acknowledge weren’t twisted and bastardized within the first couple of centuries of their existence? Brainlets fr fr

>redditor newfriend fedoralord exposes himself

Wew

>tfw used to write edgy atheist jokes like "Science flies you to the moon, religion flies you into buildings" 10 years ago on faceberg

Never pat yourself on the back kids

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You seem to be the one whose jimmies got rustled, because you are presenting some real cognitive dissonance.
Yes, you just told me you're not a Christian, that's why I was talking about how your projections and suppositions were originated from offense and I supposed about you. And you actually wants to throw "NO U"s around? You're the one doing it, my boy. There was nothing in my posts remotely hinting to atheism.

>People are not so simple. There are things they know that you don't.
They're not simple, that's why you can be a genius in regards to something but a complete moron in regards to something else.
Jordan Peterson is a very intelligent man but his opinions on religion are profoundly stupid. He abandons all logic that he subjects everything else to and attaches himself to ontological arguments that go nowhere, like "God exists because HE IS". What does anyone have to gain from that kind of vague garbage?
All religions are important in the context they were introduced in and all of them have something to teach people and it is completely possible and even plausible that something created the universe, but if you think the events in the Bible are literal accounts you're an idiot, there's no two ways about it. You can go down the historical record and see how every religion was started, the motives, the evolution, the borrowings. None of them come from zero as the immutable word of God like abrahamic religions claim.
In fact, believing religions literally is not just stupid but detracts from the religion itself. You can't become Christ and one with God if you think Christ was a literal individual that existed in flesh, that's even heresy to compare yourself to them.
And I can assure you, there is nothing an abrahamic devout knows that I don't that could justify literal belief. The very fact that there's three fucking versions of it and they all claim to be the only one means that for one to be true all others have to be fake.

>you don't believe in a 2000 year old desert religion about an old wizard sacrificing his rabbi son (who is also him), therefore you wear a hat
what's the correlation?

If I went into a thread and replied an argument with that pic, yeah, I'd be a fat man with weak chin wearing a fedora.

why are atheists so angry?

>If I went into a thread and replied an argument with that pic, yeah, I'd be a fat man with weak chin wearing a fedora.

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>oh shit I don't know how to refute his arguments...
>I know what I'll do!

I'm not fucking reading this lol
Settle down, kid.

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>they all claim to be the only one means that for one to be true all others have to be fake.
Don’t care about what you guys are arguing about. But that’s not necessarily true.

This has been my experience with everyone that wears fedoras, they have always been christcucks.
Projection, it's what low IQ people do.

Not an argument

This movie was shit and Maher is shit.
All I remember was Maher getting BTFO by some Jesus impersonator. Maher said something like "how can God be 3 different things" and the guy said "Water can be liquid, solid, or gas"

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Oh ok, I was addressing myself to a brainlet, you could have saved me time by letting me know earlier.
You can type "Have sex" and go masturbate now.

>DUDE CHRISTIANS ARE DUMB LOL
>no they're ok people
>OH YEAH?
>autism wall text
see

Atheism is just one step removed from nihilism, a truly unhealthy approach to life that only leads to anger and frustration

>>DUDE ATHEISTS ARE DUMB LOL
>>no they're ok people
>>OH YEAH?
>>fedora pics

Who are the guys on this picture again? Why do most of them look like they have major health issues? Is this what a typical American looks like?

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>I'm not better than the people I have such disdain and contempt for

>>>DUDE ATHEISTS ARE DUMB LOL
>>>no they're ok people
>>>OH YEAH?
>>>fedora pics
>
>
>
>

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>every person on the internet is legally obliged to intellectually engage with my shit flinging
You're not very interesting. Whatever you think doesn't mean that much to me.

And this is the state of Christians.

get this hot head outta here!

Then move along, faggot. The fuck you still doing here?

>it amuses the fuck out of me that all the internet atheist bros from 7-10 years ago now all have some amount of regret regarding their past activism

This simply isn't true

Can you type anything that isn't a Reddit-esque meme or reference?
How old are you?

He's a smart guy who knows that film critics aren't taken very seriously so he has some fun with it while still being intelligent about the whole thing. Not all of his reviews are meant to be taken seriously and you can interpret them as you like, certainly one of the only critics worth following.

Not an argument

>>I'm not better than the people I have such disdain and contempt for

fedora pics aren't an argument

>Can you type anything that isn't a Reddit-esque meme or reference?
>How old are you?

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You'll waste less time once you accept that everyone that doesn't give you the time a day is a brainlet.
It's kind of a contradiction, much like how all of the women who won't have sex with you are sluts.
>Can you type anything that isn't a Reddit-esque meme or reference?
>dude there is no God btw lol

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You can be an athiest and believe in some kind of spiritual purpose. It just means non belief in a supreme “being(s)”

>fedora pics aren't an argument

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sperg seething he can no longer walltext

>when he says something i don't like its to be funny!
>when he says something i do like its serious!

what a wonderful confirmation bias

This. Christianity enrages phony intellectuals in exactly the same way it enraged the pharisees because it’s a doctrine of unbreakable irony and contrarianism that expands into infinity because it reaches into the exact core of humanity (comedy). The zeitgeist today is to pretend to be some phony intellectuall Trotskyite. Most people aren’t funny and have no sense of humor, they are so insecure about their intelligence and so unfunny that they can’t see how funny it is to take everything the Bible says literally because of how much it enrages them. The more it enrages and upsets the more powerful the doctrine grows in spirit but you can’t get rid of it, you can stab and torture and kill someone and hang them on a cross and they will literally rise from the dead and laugh at you for a thousand years. It’s a religion of trolling

>these people are the ones that think they grew up and are now EUPHORIC about being mature intelligent individuals
Poe's law.

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Then it turned out he lied about all those similarities between religions and don't forget "clever and funny" cuts before people could respond.
If you're so sure you're right why you feel you have to lie?

And now you became a bible thumping Yea Forums theist or agnostic, because atheism was just too mainstream. What an upgrade.

t. guy who got upset over "happy holidays" instead of "merry christmas"

...

>religion
that's how christfags cope everyone

youtube.com/watch?v=5hfYJsQAhl0

youtube.com/watch?v=0Psf6atoivI
youtube.com/watch?v=NdbkvJznmwU

>>these people are the ones that think they grew up and are now EUPHORIC about being mature intelligent individuals
>>Poe's law.

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atheism is a religion because atheists assemble nowhere, listen to nobody, and give their money to themselves.

When was the last time you yelled at your mom, user? Time to give her a break for raising your sorry ass.

I’m an atheist but this is an incredibly bad film. Makes us all look like assholes. No real arguments just selective interviews with religious people edited to make them look dumb. It’s like Michael Moore making a religious movie but not as skillfully manipulative .

consider suicide, make that 40% a 41% please

>>religion
>that's how christfags cope everyone

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I remember when atheism and shitting on Christians was fun. It's pretty cringe now since most atheists won't give Islam or Judaism the same treatment.

you don't have to edit religious sentiment to make it look dumb

>organized religion

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Tell me about the atheists?
Why do they wear the fedoras?

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considering all the first world military does is shoot muslims, why would they? people would stop giving evangelicals so much shit if they were being shot at 24/7.

>has several 'dawkins vs' tabs open on chrome

Leftists aren't atheist, they're against Christianity and Israel, that's all.

Evangelicals aren't committing terrorist attacks and threatening cartoonists with murder for mocking them.

Atheism is not a solidified movement, it's not an ideology. You are thinking in the wrong categories.

>past activism
They were dumb teenagers, now they are just silent atheists because it's not worth the meaningless argument that inevitably turns into a virtue signaling statement by christfags like "I guess I just care a little more than you do, and think there is more to life than nothingness".

>ashamed over how outspoken he was against Christianity, in the context of the increasing prevalence of Islam
The rise in atheism has nothing to do with the increase of Islam. And Dawkins has far more anti-islam videos up than he does strictly anti-christian.

It's not like the fedora-tippers "lost". They just stopped speaking up. What would the point of arguing be? Every time a christcuck is exposed for how dumb they are, they just take the high road and talk about faith or they just say someone is evil.

>you don't have to edit religious sentiment to make it look dumb

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and if they were, the first world military would be shoot them 24 hours a day, seven days a week.

do you understand the point made at now?

ideologues always think in ideological categories.

>Every time a christcuck is exposed for how dumb they are, they just spam fat people wearing hats

fixed that for you

>It's not like the fedora-tippers "lost".
Sweetie...

But an ironical display like that would only further prove my point
It’s not dumb it’s the truth. Every other religion is either militaristic (Islam, Judaism) or beastly pragmatic (Buddhism, new age spiritualism). Jesus rode into town on a donkey because he thought it was FUNNY. Irony is unbreakable, this is why we are instructed to turn the other cheek.

>>Every time a christcuck is exposed for how dumb they are, they just spam fat people wearing hats
>
>fixed that for you

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Now he says you are angry, frothing and sperging for replying to him with words.
That's how low IQ these faggots are.

No we're just defeated by humanity's stupidity and Athiesm+ that proves half of atheists are brain dead feminazis rather than humanist

I'm not seeing your point. Atheists don't criticize Muslims because the US is drone striking some Taliban or ISIS member in the middle-east?

Islam is a barbaric religion and it's followers are more often than not following the example of it's barbaric pedophile prohpet. Why shouldn't they be criticized?

Behold the combined power of persuasion for the theist position: Pictures of unattractive men in fedoras!

>some atheists are fat and cringy so god exists!

Atheists btfo, how will they ever recover in the face of this superior mental capacity?

>Jordan Peterson is a very intelligent man

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you're really fucking angry holy shit

Most people who self-label as atheists is what I meant and generally atheists tend to avoid criticizing Islam. Atheists also tend to be leftists anyways.

btw I self-label as an atheist.

obtain reproductive intercourse

>Judaism
>militaristic
you are deranged

I disagree with him on many things but he is almost certainly smarter than me or you.

because they're being "criticized" with literal bullets instead of internet mockery. They're hostile and barbaric? They get shot at.

Oh shit, he gave me a >u mad. Peak rhetorics, I think I have to convert to Islam or Christianity now.

>>Behold the combined power of persuasion for the theist position: Pictures of unattractive men in fedoras!
>
>>some atheists are fat and cringy so god exists!
>
>Atheists btfo, how will they ever recover in the face of this superior mental capacity?

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>hey guys let attack religion!
>Christians are so stupid and white trash hahaha
>Jews are ummm
>Muslims ….uhhhhh
>Look at these redneck Christians, haha fucking idiots

i noe rite, ya dun get rich without havin the smarts.

>DUDE WHAT IS ISRAEL LOL
unequivocally shut the fuck up. stop posting.

>Most people who self-label as atheists is what I meant and generally atheists tend to avoid criticizing Islam. Atheists also tend to be leftists anyways.

You have a solid source for that, bro? Other than your ass?

>guis I was only kidding, relax, of course I don't believe in a god!

Not an argument.

That's your American media elite. Don't blame all atheists for Americans giving them great ratings.

Yeah, i bet some faggot Muslim terrorist raised in Belgium was being shot at huh? This is what i mean by atheist apologists of Islam. It's double standard niggers like you that make criticizing Christianity lame and the easiest low hanging fruit.

>t. didn't actually watch the movie
Shocking. The religoutard's """superior""" position is ignore all contrary evidence and screech about persecution.

>Israel is “militaristic” because it’s a country literally surrounded by terrorists. It exclusively uses its military for self defense. That has nothing to do with Judaism. Christian countries are infinitely more violent but you didn’t say Christianity was militaristic. Islam is the only one it makes sense to call militaristic because ingrained in the religion is violence against non-believers. Again, you are a deranged incel. Judaism is by a very wide margin the least violent and least militaristic.

Not a complete sentence.

He has a PHD is psychology and is extremely successful, what have you done to compare? Also "pretending" to be retarded is not doing you any favors.

>Shocking. The religoutard's """superior""" position is ignore all contrary evidence and screech about persecution.

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I'm just going by what i've seen happen. I've been an atheist since you were in the cradle you zoomer faggot. I've seen what happened to it in the late 2000's and early 2010's.

jesus I can smell the fat off you

The argument is that there is no evidence for a personal god, the universe doesn't need a personal god to be understood and all technology and progress is based on a method, that is completely devoid of supernatural elements. How about you address that. Your argument is: fat fedora neckbeard3.jpg

>violently remove people from their territory and commit internationally sanctioned genocide
>bro the jews are surrounded by terrorists give em a break!
Not an argument.

Judaism was founded on military might do you know nothing of history? The ancient Hebrews were a warrior race of people

Dude just shut the fuck up why don't you grow a pair and stop rolling over to the dumb cucks

I am 29. So anecdotal evidence.

Weird how you have no problem with the alt right behavior of making up fantasies to pretend Christians are victims. Christians are mostly morbidly obese.

Preech it, brother. Atherists all have the gay and will soon bern in hell.

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Have you considered having sex?

Palestinians are the only violent ones in that conflict. It’s not Israel’s fault they’re so bad at it. You are seriously dumb, get an IQ test.

Ok maybe you're just blind and/or dishonest, maybe you're just new to be an atheist so you haven't seen any of this.

Tell me user, where can I find a mainstream atheist that openly criticizes Islam just as consistently as Christianity?

Wait... ancient limited books translated and reinterpreted hundreds of times still can somehow hypnotize stupid people? Hasnt the internet destroyed organized religion yet?

Nah but they are spreading Christianity to third world shit holes in west Africa where they radicalized them with their dumb ass protestant horse shit

Christians are basically snowflakes. Everytime a movie comes out, that doesn't portray them in a great light they whine about it on Yea Forums and cry persecution.
Even in ambigous movies such as Silence.

The media is incredibly leftist. The majority of atheists are not part of the media.

>Palestinians are the only violent ones in that conflict.
LOL fuck this i'm out

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As much as I dislike Jews, they still have a better claim to that land than Arabs do. If you consider Arabic right of conquest to be legitimate then you should consider the kikes conquering Palestine back to also be legitimate.

Look up political affiliation by faith (or lack thereof). Mormons I think are the most conservative; fedoras the most liberal.

Peterson spews hocus pocus to disguise very very simple self help and self actualization concepts to basically retarded young men. He is a lowest common denominator snake oil salesman.

I don't think leeching money and trust from society's failures to make your mark is indicative of profound or significant success.

>Weird how you have no problem with the alt right behavior of making up fantasies to pretend Christians are victims. Christians are mostly morbidly obese.

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Christian blacks are unironically tamed. I'd much rather live next to a Christian black than one who isn't religious.

>using the "I can't even" chick defense to end an argument

typical

Dawkins, Harris, Hitchens, the same people that have been the mainstream atheists since forever. Even Maher, a progressive faggot, criticizes Islam and never agrees with Islam apologists in his show. Every single atheist Youtuber past the Atheism+ surge of retarded faggots.
The people you are describing as atheists are now saying Islam is the most feminist religion ever.

>projection

Dawkins, Harris, and formerly alive Hitchens were all accused of Isllamaphobia. They generally are much harsher on Islam as a whole. Christian debates just get more traction in america.

Looked it up. It's only for the US, but still valid point. But Muslims and Buddhists are more left leaning than atheists in tha poll.

>unironic Zionist shill
fuck yourself, kike
Neither righteous, mutually assured destruction is ideal.

He offers self help guides to society's failures. What do you do besides give them scorn by calling them incels and failures?

He literally does more to help people than you leftist trannies do and you hate him for it.

>You didn't become an edgy teen atheist because it was logical, you became because your family and all authority were christians.

assumption

>You're now rebelling to the status quo of postmodernist leftism.
so?

>you didn't revert to christcuckoldry because it was logical

no it was philosophically more consistent than scientism or materialist atthiest

>UM, NO YOU

BASED
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>Dawkins, Harris, Hitchens
Considered outcasts or problematic now by most atheist organisations.

>it amuses the fuck out of me that all the internet atheist bros from 7-10 years ago now all have some amount of regret regarding their past activism

false, there was no activism involved, just criticism of what I was afraid to criticize

>every athiest is richard dawkins

I just did more reading and learned the meaning of ideology and noticed athiesm makes the same sort of logical jumps of faith. Except the whole believers are retards angle.

>You didn't revert to christcuckoldry because it was logical, you did it because the left hated christianity and were sucking the balls of Islam and jews were paying them up.
>You're a kid with no direction throwing fists at the air.

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>no it was philosophically more consistent than scientism
>ancient book written over the course of a couple hundred years by several different authors
>full of contradictions and dogmatic shifts throughout history
>philosophically consistent

Good joke, bruh. Might as well stop using the internet and transmit posts through prayer if you are so opposed to 'scientism' btw.

>zionist doesn't like it when he's named
I don't argue with kikes, you can fuck off now, rat.

>Considered outcasts or problematic now by most atheist organisations.

What is an atheist organisation?

>no it was philosophically more consistent than scientism or materialist atthiest
For your retarded brain, sure. I'm wasn't disputing that.

>Palestinians are the only violent ones in that conflict.

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OY VEY YOU GOT ME NOW GOYIM A+ ARGUMENT IT'S ANNUDAH SHOA

But it didn't defeat Yea Forums. You'd have to be a legit retard to believe in God.

What organizations? Most of the prominent atheists tend to not have ANY affiliations. Hell, one of the primary draws of normal people to atheism is it's freedom from organizations. That's kind of the point of it all.

even if im a retard, i know not to fall for bullshit founded upon faulty axioms and pretend science is objective.

According to that, the majority of orthodox Christians and catholics are voting democrat as well.

Atheism+, RationalWiki, or any organisation that is run by leftist activists.

Atheists are just smug theists who skimmed a physics youtube channel. We know almost nothing about the universe

>But it didn't defeat Yea Forums. You'd have to be a legit retard to believe in God.

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>We know almost nothing about the universe
Right but not knowing is not a reason to assume

>Palestinians are the only violent ones in that conflict.

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The whole point of the scientific method is to create a system to be as objective as humanly possible. It beats dogmas from a 2000 year old book, or unfounded spiritualism for sure.

I don't really believe in anything, I'm just saying ruling out the metaphysical is just naive. Imagine describing the physics we discovered in the 20th century to 19th century people

What a pointless and stupid sentence.

>Theists are just smug atheists who skimmed a bible. We know almost nothing about the universe.

Atheists are the ones that say we know almost nothing about the universe. Theists are the ones claiming to have all the answers, wrapped up nicely in a god box. If we know so very little about the universe, why throw all your weight behind a very unlikely theory like "it was all created by a god who doesn't like masturbation"?

>we know nothing therefor god

Flawless logic. Also our knowledge of the universe is not nearly as limited as you imply.

He’s not. He just regurgitates things said by smarter people, mostly Jung,and has produced nothing worthy of considering him especially smart. Memorization is a skill, not intellect. Is he smarter than you? Maybe. But I’ve never heard him say anything I or most people I know didn’t already know and have heard him be confused regarding basic things. His life audit thing was also a basic recycled test put in his own words.

sure

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I didn't say god exists, I just said that atheists have a sense of superiority that isn't really well founded

Not believing in the existence of god is as of now the logically more consistent position, if that hurts your feelings tough luck.

Science is objective, by very definition.
Science means the scientific principle of observation, reproduction and confirmation. It isn't a fucking ideology, it isn't a philosophy, it's not an organized movement. That's the problem with people like you, you think "science enthusiasts" that know very little about any science like The Amazing Atheist are spokespersons for this unified group.
What people do with science is irrelevant and scientists are not always right but the scientific principle is still objective and if science one day proves God they won't pretend it never happened because they are committed to being atheists first.

Are there people here who unironically believe in a talking bush and some Jewish dude walking on water?

>sense of superiority.

No, they just feel more confident, and that makes religious people uncomfortable. Each and every scientific discovery in the history of mankind has slowly eroded the pillars of religion. If your life is dependent on religion, that's a concerning pattern.

I guess that when you grew up in a society as stupidly religious as the USA you tend to feel better than the rest once you realize it's all bullshit.
Like the coffee snobs where actually right for snubbing folgers and beer hipsters for ditching Bud Lite.
Us Europeans can't give two shits about all that.

>I'm just saying ruling out the metaphysical is just naive
I don't disagree. If an atheist is claiming to know god, gods, or the metaphysical doesn't exist then they are making a positive claim that is equally as valid as claiming god does exist.

>No, they just feel more confident, and that makes religious people uncomfortable. Each and every scientific discovery in the history of mankind has slowly eroded the pillars of religion. If your life is dependent on religion, that's a concerning pattern.

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The correct scientific answer to whether or not God exists is “I don’t know.”

>that one retard replying to every post greentexting it and with a fedora picture for almost 2 hours and everyone just ignoring him

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Science is the search for how. Religion is the search for why.

Dude... Israel is surrounded by a wall that is constantly patrolled by soldiers. Every Israeli citizen must undergo military training at the age of 18. The united states has given them tens of billions of dollars just in the past few years for "defense". They designed, produce, and sell the desert eagle, the uzi, and many other well known weapons. The entire religion is about an us against them ethnocentric way of thinking... talk about derangement.

There is as much evidence for it as there is for fairies. There is a remnant uncertainty to every insight, that doesn't make every position equally plausible.

Yea Forums is religious? What crack are you on?

That is the correct scientific answer to everything. Literally everything. We don't even know if WE exist and it's literally impossible to prove that anything other than ourselves exist, the best we can say is "I think therefore I must exist in some sense" and that is it.
Science is about defining our immediate existence within our limitations. You can't prove a negative and there is no evidence for a God, so that's it, that's all we have.
We can, however, look at religions and claim with 99,9% certainty that Yahweh and Allah does not exist.

Yea Forums is contrarian. So it became religous or agnostic when atheism became too mainstream. Ultimate hipster move.

maybe if they hadn't been persecuted for 2000+ yrs they'd be more relaxed, just sayin'

Why are atheist men so suicidal?

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>that one retard replying to every post greentexting it and with a fedora picture for almost 2 hours and everyone just ignoring him

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agnostics are the only ones who arent lying to themselves.

and many scientist are in fact religious

How do you go about proving that the metaphysical doesn't exist then?

I think you're conflating what that user or I means by metaphysical and god with fairies and unicorns. Stop

>build society on religious values
>erode religion
>first generations do fine, since the values are implicit
>society start collapsing since values aren't being enforced
>secular society gone
based nu-atheists, denying science just as much as religitards for doing the same thing when it doesn't conform to their expectations

>according to religion
unreliable source

reminder that young atheists don't stay that way

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Most agnostics I've come across are just totally apathetic to the question of whether god exists or not.

Because the fear of death is human and some prostitutes end up nuns

Makes sense. So I guess that pretty much makes these "religious" posters the new fedoras then.

Abrahamic religions posit suicide as essentially the biggest affront to God you can possibly commit, as it basically tells God that you refuse to accept His plan for your life and are removing yourself from the world. It consigns you to the "real" death of the soul, where you pretty much vanish. Christians tend to usually second-guess suicide, orthodox Jews and Muslims are often dramatically more staunch with their faith than most, so-on so-forth. Atheists have no faith, and have no reason to not commit suicide beyond fickle/temporary reasons like "My family/friends would be sad". If you don't really have a family or friends, what exactly is standing between you and freedom via lead salad?

>bill: so what, you believe that noah sailed in a boat or something?

>guy: yeah

>bill: heh, what are you, retarded?

Slam dunk

You can't prove a negative. There is no evidence for and there is that. We need neither god, nor fairies, nor the metaphysical so far to explain the mechanisms of our universe.

Even if it existed, there is no reason to believe it'd be relevant to our physical existence in any shape, way or form.

Faith is a normal human function. Even animals can experience faith to some degree. That doesn't mean the things they believe are real.

is the fear of death the only argument you'll ever have? even if you take the belief in afterlife, you still have live improving dogmatism.

>muh death anxiety
conspicuous how many mythical sacred cows atheists shamelessly embrace

>Makes sense. So I guess that pretty much makes these "religious" posters the new fedoras then.

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Fugggg it true lmao

>Even animals can experience faith to some degree.
How can you even type on keyboard?

How can animals experience faith?

Perfectly timed line boys here's 0.001 afterlifebux

Ive been delving deep into theology and theological history recently. The most popular religions are both some of the newest versions of their own religions as well as religions which have borrowed their basic fundamentals from older ones. At this point we can’t even judge theism solely based on those religions because of how bastardized they have become.

Sure i'm just saying that's it's equally foolish to claim that the metaphysical exists or doesn't exist. Is the question now irrelevant? Maybe for you or I but not for everyone evidently.

Because most young atheists grow out of their "I'm of superior intelligence to the SHEEP surrounding me!" phase at some point in their life and often just ponder if there's more to life. So, most of them that remain Atheists are just because they don't feel any reason to believe in a god or gods or whatever, a few remain such because they have some vendetta/malice towards the church (probably built up from spending decades of their lives hating religious people for simply being religious), and a very small amount remain such because they still think they are of greater intelligence because they look up at the same blue sky as every Christian and claim that there's no God there when Christians claim there in fact is a God there, but you can't see it. Meanwhile most religious people typically just remain such because it's convenient, or they are fundamentalists who aren't about to change at any point in their lives.

They can't.

io9.gizmodo.com/how-pigeons-get-to-be-superstitious-5746904

I mean faith in the most basic ways, not like belief in gods or complex belief systems that humans have.

ha ha epic, where can I upvote?

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missionary man
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>Most agnostics I've come across are just totally apathetic to the question of whether god exists or not.

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Has been the case for a long time. Now atheist and agnostic anons are like "hey, here's some common sense" and the christian anons are the new snobby cunts that think they are totally right because "muh fedora".
I know more about christianism (or any other religion ever for that matter) than any /pol/tard larping as crusader. They don't pick positions based on knowledge, they pick the accepted positions of their ambient. Just as much NPCs as libtards loving Islam.

>if you're not an agnostic then you're a militant atheist
cringe low IQ assumption

that's the ooga-booga /x/ level ritual magic based on thought reflexes, not even close to rational human philosophy of religion.

>the best we can say is "I think therefore I must exist in some sense" and that is it.
But you don't know that reality exists. So you don't know that logic is valid. So you can't justify the assertion that thinking requires existing.

Fucking sophists.

Yeah exactly but that's falls under the definition of faith. Sorry I wasn't clear enough in what i meant when I used that word, it clearly means different things for different people.

>my stupid bullshit was instantly called stupid bullshit
wow, what could've inspired such a response? only a conspiracy!

Yup, thats kinda the point. Who knows if the dudes who wrote the bible were lying or not but also who can say that in the vastness of all existence there isnt an entity more powerful than ones self. Just dont know, so whats the point in dwelling on it either way?

The metaphysical is an incredibly broad concept, which is indeed hard to prove or disprove with scientific methods. Maybe there was something else before the big bang who the fuck knows.

God is by definition of the universe. We have an elaborate understanding of the beginning of the universe with god nowhere to be seen, so we can attribute a certain probability to that. It is not equally rational to believe in a god as an absence of believe in a god. We have a historic understanding of religions and their prevalent concepts, so they become even more transparent than that.

Im not an atheist you gimp. If youre suddenly religious because its the contrarian thing to do, youre a fedora tipper through and through.

Ok, but most people aren't really basing theism in abrahamic religions. That goes for both ways. All intelligent non-teen atheists and agnostics I know aren't claiming they know for a fact a metaphysical entity exists or not. The same way the people criticizing them are also not entertaining that possibility. Look at the people posting, they're christians so they can't argue that something might exist, because their belief is dogmatic, which means that intrinsically it HAS to be right. So if there is something but it's not Yahweh he is wrong and he can't be wrong, his entire existence and hypothetical post-existence depends on his gamble of choosing the right thing to worship to be correct.
I like Christianity, I like all religions and I think all of them are important to us and exist as an evolutionary response to increase survival. When I defend atheism it's against the idea that religions are literal. That is a dumb thing to believe.

So does the internet. I can browse all day without seeing porn and I'm not the one cursing 99% of the time. Then again, I grew out of browsing Yea Forums 10 years ago.

How will leftists ever recover from this?

No, but I have critical thinking so I know that based on the sensorial stimulus that make up perception I can make logical assumptions and currently, in this state I am now experiencing, the abrahamic gods don't exist.

>All intelligent non-teen atheists and agnostics I know aren't claiming they know for a fact a metaphysical entity exists or not.
Maybe some mega-abstract metaphysical entity that created the universe or eerily hovers throughout it imperceptibly nudging the occasional particle to create hurricanes where it wants them exists or something, but the abrahamic gods do not, because things are claimed about them that have been proven not to be true.
>inb4 tests of faith

Jesus WAS a contrarian. Here’s a pic of him laughing at one of his famous high quality top tier shitposts

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what's that got to do with sophistry

Maher doesn't speak with undertones of curiosity or with the express interest of actually pursuing answers to the world's questions. He presents himself with pompous certainty, the clearest signal that he's merely a medium to disseminate a pervasive agenda. No man with any true sense of honor or any fiber of moral fortitude could proudly make a living stripping people of their faith. Invariably it's the characters like Bill Maher that only serve to create more impossible rhetorical questions and more uncertainty, all under this deluded assumption that it's in the interest of benefiting mankind when, in reality, it's causing its regression.

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Don't even know why he thought that applied to what I said.

Yeah. I’m not any of these tards’ side. We basically agree, Except I’m more to the theist side of believing there is some kind of god with a “plan” and you’re probably on the same place on the other side of center.

>No man with any true sense of honor or any fiber of moral fortitude could proudly make a living stripping people of their faith.
Why not?

well you brought it up

"the bible is silly therefor God isn't real" - atheists

Imagine being this much of a pea brained retard

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It's a little crazy how much smarter I am than all of you.

You have to understand that at the time Christian Evangelicals controlled the presidency and atheism as a movement was pretty new. It served no purpose to be apologetic and inquisitive because religious conservatives were trying their hardest to shut down the conversation.

Now Evangelicals have nearly no power in society and even Republicans under Trump are more Jewish than they are Christian.

>Since they’re not articulate—because they’re not practiced stand-up comics—Maher makes them look stupid rather than devout.
They really are just stupid, user. I've lived in red and blue states and the simple fact is that red states have much, much dumber people inhabiting them. It's called flyover country for a reason.

You don't become a professor at Harvard by being an idiot or even of average intelligence for that matter.

>calls others pea brained
>posts picture of cherrypicked women
You're an NPC just like the rest of us buddy

You made no argument, you thinking that what he says isn't original not only is irrelevant but it wouldn't be a measurement of intelligence anyway.

Maybe if they hadn't made themselves so persacutable, they wouldn't be in this mess.

Okay spending the rest of my evening making an image like that with 320 women from each side instead of 32, and then I'm going to post it somewhere every single day for the rest of my life. Thanks for the inspiration you fucking mutant.

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Gentle reminder that anyone reaping the benefits of Western Culture owes a sincere debt of gratitude to Christianity.

have sex nerds

I don't have any particular belief but I know we are eventually going to create a universe, it will most likely be a simulation composed of algorithms, and our reasons for it are probably going to be "to just see what the fuck happens", so in my limited human perception of motivation I think we were created along the same lines. It seems the one trait that binds all animals together is curiosity, it's what got us to this point. We love observing things. I think whatever made this reality was curious to observe it.

You can by being a draw through popular culture or again, by regurgitating already accepted rhetoric well enough to pass it on to others. I liked him at first, because he was regurgitating stuff I liked, but still never ended up hearing anything of his that is new and plenty of retarded autistic shit. If he has discussed something that ISN’T basic, I wouldn’t mind hearing it.

Thank the Romans for that. Not the appropriators, and destroyers of their culture.

>The whole point of the scientific method is to create a system to be as objective as humanly possible

>human possibility is your only measure of objectivity

For me, it’s lack of belief that not only history up this point, but a bunch of weird shit in my own life, is just bunch coincidences and “odds are”.

You're not going to convince anyone he's not intelligent, even yourself (subconsciously).

The romans abolished slavery? Western culture and the inherent value of the individual is defined by Christian values.

>>full of contradictions and dogmatic shifts throughout history

>implying science isn't

Absolutely based.

Lofty feel good nonsense like that is why the Western world continues to crumble.

He's a psychoanalyst, a field that is not going to have anything new to say until we can fully map the brain, so what the fuck could he say that isn't basic?

ellen degeneres more like ellen degenerate

No that's leftist degeneracy

It isn't and you're a fucking retard who doesn't even understand words to think it is.
And this post is so fucking dumb that it is a miracle you have the ability to write and read:

cringe

So it's Christian values when it supports your argument, and leftist degeneracy when it doesn't.
Just like the Jews your religion spawned from, you are a parasite who only lies and deceives.

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Yes Jews and leftist degeneracy go hand in hand. One is a tool of the other.

Christianity is also a tool of the Jews.

Do tell

>scientific method can scientifically prove itself objective without circular reasoning fallacy.