WHY EVEN BRING IN AN ACCOUNT

i love how pete goes from the quite pathetic, dislikeable character to the fan favorite and one of the most relatable while getting one with the happiest ending and he feels like he deserves it

mad men is a special show

>tfw american

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just the rape really throws me. I don't mean to moralfag but how do you like a character after that.

Why would you choose to be gay?

Pretty sure that was Pete trying to impress Peggy with that silly manly man shit

Actually that speech pretty much sums up Pete's major flaw: his low self-esteem because he doesn't think he's manly

it wasn't written as rape, she was supposed to reluctantly return the favor, but the director made it look differently

That was a weird one. Pete was just so obsessed with being a player I don't think he even realised what he was doing was fucked up. It's still bad but I think that absolves him a little bit

But she still told the owner/renter/whoever hired her about it afterwards no? Doesn't bode well.

pretty much this
Pete longs to be a man like the ones he admires, but his generation has no way to prove themselves as such
he's confined to the office, trying to make his way among men he thinks are much more honorable and impressive than him

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At least I'm assuming she did because his neighbor did confront him about it.

He should've lifted.

it was coercive in the sense she wanted to but she would feel guilty about cheating, he pushed her a bit and she caved. its written like she wants to but knows she shouldnt, its shot and done like he made her. pete did nothing wrong other than be too desperate for some strange. if she felt like he raped her then the guy who confronts pete would have been a bit more aggressive to him and possibly go the police involved

yeah, she regretted it
the woman was shown to be sensitive from the beginning
also, her boss told Pete he had had 4 months without her crying, which implies something similar may have happened before

was it a thing in the 60s?

Not from what I can tell. I think it wasn't until Arnie that it really started taking off.

Good points. Cheers anons.

>BECAUSE HE HAD CHEWING GUM ON HIS PUBIS

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I would've laughed so hard in that situation. Fucking hell

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youtube.com/watch?v=cI6v858LeTU i really like how the finales of mad men were often thought provoking/interesting/emotional rather than typical schloke bait for WOAH WHAT WILL HAPPEN NEXT SEASON?!?! TUNE IN NEXT TIME

what a wonderful show

>sopranos finished june 2007
>mad men aired july 2007
>man men finished may 2015
>still no next great tv kino about characters rather than story with the same quality of writing, cinematography and believabilty of setting

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Yeah I love stan you’re right. Especially post beard Stan.
The way he reacts to the eyepatch is hilarious to me. Like when he throws Joans earring to her and its way the fuck off.

Tv, is there anything out there better than Chad Men?

It was, but there wasn't much lifting culture except in cities with lots of beaches. There was also the attitude that only fatties and wimps needed exercise due to the way the regimens were marketed.
And since food had less calories and preservatives back then, people usually didn't put on weight until middle age. So there was no obesity epidemic.

The war trios - Band of Brothers, Generation Kill, and The Pacific - are always safe bets.

seen all of them, my point is that you had sopranos break massive ground for the time and only a month after, mad men begins along the same thread and style of character and theme before plot. still waiting for the next one

Yeah true. Shit man, has there really been nothing since 2015? The absolute state

Oliver Sacks was a respetable physician and writer and was very into lifting. But also he was full homo, so take it as you like.

>he doesnt work out with his bros and compare muscles

nothing gay about it, youre just spotting each other

We both know you're only looking for a post to go with the Mad Men general image you have

halt n catch fire, not better but good

>halt n catch fire
i am way too much of a snob so i doubt i will think its good

Why couldn't he take the pressure in the later seasons?

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he got money and status and realized it wasnt what he wanted, the one thing he chased and wanted he didnt want. he actually enjoyed the chase and challenge, and once he got it, he felt depressed. its very common and arguably the main enjoyment for people, the actual act of trying to earn good money and status, not the actual money and status.

Wait a minute, what? Mad Men started a month after Sopranos ended? Jesus Christ

>the biggest, blackest prostitute
show was kino

he's a bit of a dick earlier on and then turns out to be based

my reaction exactly

I remember my parents reacting to the Sopranos finale when I was a fucking sophomore in high school, but when I picked up Mad Men I was a Junior in College. It makes me want to kill myself, that gap.

>characters that women will never understand

Peggy and Pete offer an impressive dichotomy. Peggy is a character men often fail to understand.

*ahem*
Fuck Protestants and fuck Campbells.

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What's the point of this show

Everyone on Yea Forums thinks Peggy is based, but probably just because she didn’t want to live around black people and stabbed a Jew.

She's a white woman who succeeds in acting like a man, even despite her hippie lib boyfriend. Yeah I guess you're right she's very respectable. Wish she wasn't such a sex-hating cunt with Stan tho

Literally Don Draper but nice.
Don couldnt, Ted couldnt either, they just showed it differently.

Literally Don Draper who settled down before his arc started.
He was practically an extra until he showed up to make Don look stupid
I legitimately have trouble believing the weight of these characters' authority when they haven't actually thrived within a 1960's ad career

Launching my waifu's career

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Why the fuck would you get involved with the occult like that

I thought the show wrapped up the characters' stories a little too quickly and neatly.

I liked the show and finished it. In the end i grew to resent Don Draper and all the women he was with. They all gave me the same feeling of human trash Don gave me.

Dat nipple chop.

>he doesnt want kiki to sexually sacrifice his soul in an occult femdom session

For the sheer thrill of taking control against normalcy

>I legitimately have trouble believing the weight of these characters' authority when they haven't actually thrived within a 1960's ad career
What?

the only ones who got tied up too quick and neat were pete and peggy.

don, betty, sally, joan and roger all had excellent endings.

it's a shame about pete and peggy but I understand as a television show it's hard to even hope for things to be handled better than mad men did

don't feed autism user

>still no next great tv kino about characters rather than story with the same quality of writing, cinematography and believabilty of setting
they should have kept the entire production team together, gave them all a two week vacation somewhere and then started right back making something else, we could be like into the 4th season of something just as kino by now

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It wasn’t his generation, it was him. He had literally everything in his life handed to him on a silver plate yet insisted he could be some fantasy of manly, which could only happen had his life not been so utterly easy. Any time he tries to do anything on his own, he failed, because he had no idea how to do anything but be in the right place with the right name and bathe in success.

I mean Don played a huge role in his own undoing desu

>it's true so it must be a jewish conspiracy

>not making deals with the devil for power
>2019

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The Young Pope

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The reason we don’t get character driven, organic fiction anymore is because the general audience is filled with fuckwits who think trash like the leftovers is character driven.

Ted's not an actual example of a succesful but chill 1960's ad man, he's a fictional anecdote from a television show designed to indict our educated guess about businessmen from the era. I know it's a foolish complaint but it's entirely completely true and the only reason anyone would disagree with it is because they're in bed with the concept of fiction as a means to teach about reality.

>cuts off his nipple in your path

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very aesthetic and well written but its not character drive, the plot takes over 3-4 episodes in, its not character focused like sopranos or mad men

The valve!

Anyone who didn't immediately understand the show was a scathing indictiment of the 1960's corporate male, was painfully ignorant. A guy like this can talk about pozzing as much as he wants, but if he spent more then one season thinking Mad Men was meant to be celebration then he is woefully ignorant and is easily manipulable as a goy himself.

what happened to her Sabrina show, Yea Forums was all over that for a week or so then nothing

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based ginzo
>ywn watch a sitcom covering the antics of Peggy, Stan and Ginsberg during the late 60s

Ken is the only character who becomes moral, he didn't start out that way and was one of the biggest assholes in the office in season 1. Marriage mostly pacified him, unlike Pete who was constantly unfulfilled with Trudy and looked for meaning at the office and Harry who was mostly nice but cheated as soon as he got engaged and never stopped. Harry is Ken in reverse.

Any tips on what a guy like Pete should do?

Name one thing that happens in mad men that is not a result of previously defined characterization.

Season 1 Ken is an extra, and his elevation into a real character is not so much a planned arc as it is an expansion of the show.

We watched it, she didn’t get naked or take baphomet knot, so what’s there to talk about?

I said it earlier itt but lifting is always a good start. Studying and getting skills/qualifications should be your priority for your 20's. Just my 00.02

Accept the fact you’ve been coddled your entire life and any sense of agency you ever had is an illusion?

I've been doing that for years. Any tips for a transition into usefulness?

You aren’t the second son of an old money family who was literally given a wife because of his name, so why even ask?

Agree, but same for Harry. Kinsey had more going on in the first two seasons than the two of them put together, but after dumping Kinsey the show put Harry and Ken on diverging paths.

i really dont understand your point

mad men and sopranos take a clear focus on exploring these characters, their drives, emotions and such through themes and scene to explore the human condition, many shows do this but these two do it to the extreme. I am not insulting or degrading the young pope, its a very good show that is far far superior to 99% of other garbage on tv

season 2 comes out next month

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I'm the surviving oldest son of a new money family carried on the back of my hardworking father, I'll at least ask.

fuck off with your trad masc bullshit retard

>coddled
Totally relative. People in World War 2 were coddled compared to Chinese soldiers 2000 years ago; no one's gonna say that men from the Early 1900's were/are pussies who lack agency.

yep, maybe it's too late for something like Mad Men, maybe it was the last of the quality dramas

F

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I really loved all the episodes set in california. that 60s west coast vibe was pure kino.

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We are talking about Peter Dykeman Campbell.

Oh hell's bells, user!

YOU DONT SPEAK TO ME THAT WAY

you don't need to tell us fictional TV drama isn't cameras pointed at real people interacting without a script, brainiac, nor do you have good reason to claim there was anything inauthentic about the fictional character of Ted Chaough

Why was Bert such a dick to Don?

I don’t think you’re correctly remembering who Bert was.

As a conservative man, a goy, and somebody born in the 60s to parents who would have fit right in with the MM crowd, (and who grew up in a house my friends used to tease me as being like a "museum of the 60s") I really REALLY hate your take on Mad Men.

I'm not trying to convince you of anything, I'm expressing doubt in the post facto expression of historical fiction and inviting people to talk about it. What about Ted can we have confidence in? Isn't this whole show just a writer's dream sequence meant to reflect on how we should look at ourselves now?

Well, it was not exactly de-romanticized, either.

Your parents were Cunts and you’re a dipshit.

You're right it's not only an indictment, I was too harsh. It's a love-hate show.

Her acting level is on-par with Glen's, but only he gets shit.

And the less we speak about Megan, the better.

Sure, exactly. That's the struggle, wondering how much of this is fictionalized and how much of it is real, and knowing that HBO writers don't necessarily know what's real.

Great post right there, mate, really good reply. I am leaving you five (5) positive points.

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You'll crucify me for this, but Black Sails is the closest thing I can think of...

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Just because about once a season the background noise in an episode happened to be a "real historical event" happening doesn't make the show a historical drama, it was the tale of a fictional ad agency and the fictional people who worked there and 99% of it was their love lives/family lives/office interactions, are you sure you watched the whole thing?

>Isn't this whole show just a writer's dream sequence meant to reflect on how we should look at ourselves now?
you don't get what television entertainment drama is and isn't, do you?

>tfw drive by the set all the time
Always cool seeing ships and a literal village from the highway

Correct. The TV is ultimately about the characters and the way the affect each other due to various issues, without ever fully resolving or exploring those issues. For example, who exactly was that prostitute in the house? Why did she end up there? What are the political decisions that trickle down to our eye level? And the motivations behind them?
The show itself is a sort of advertisement, not for a bygone age, but to the bits and pieces we can recreate from memory. In Mad Men the time period is not a character, it is decoration with a glance or two. But I guess that's why this is a period drama and not a political thriller.
It is about the characters, not the past.The technological limitations and availability made themk work differently, and the contrast with today's technology is noticeable enough to at least garner some curiosity fromm the viewers.

am I a pleb for really liking only season 1 of GoT and Dexter?

brilliant!

what the fuck? are you retarded? an alien? how are you just now discovering fiction?

season 1 of got is actually pretty good, its all about the political intrigue, great production quality for a first season and some really great acting scenes and the (at the time) signature HBO character to character moments that dont have massive plot implications but reveal a lot about said character or others while often being well written, shot and acted that are often there just for the spectacle and thought provoking. wire, sopranos, rome, deadwood all had these and now got is all about the WOAH EPIC SPEECH, WOAH BIG BATTLE, WOAHHHH ZOMBIES, WOAHHH DRAGONS, WOAHHH PLOT TWIST, WOAHHH EPIC CHARACTER DEATH. thats what got lives for now because it draws in the viewing figures, not interesting, thought provoking well written character and acting scenes. i cannot comment on dexter

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dons reaction is actually brilliant, its so brief, so honest and arguably out of character for something don to do but that almost gives it a human, real touch because don doesnt respect or like Lou and its a great, savage witty remark by stan and don cant help but react that way.

I HEARD EVERYTHING FROM YOUR FIRST FART TO YOUR LAST DYING BREATH!

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Will is that you?

did those two ever interact? I know Ginzo and Cuttler did plenty but did Ginzo and Lou? Talk about opposites

Im not just discovering it, I'm daring to ask about it. Dont be so offended and weirded out, its literally the core question lf the medium.

>Then we see this… frog, in a tuxedo. And he’s smiling, holding a glass of the wine. Elegance, refinement, but you know, just like your product, this green creature is going to leave you with something - some surprise. He gives a smug look directly to the viewer, his movements are slow and deliberate. And you understand it’ll be something you want to hear but can never say, because it’s what we’ve all been thinking. But this frog drinks the wine, and has the boldness, the edge of the village sage drunkard, but still has that refinement. He takes a moment, and tinks the glass, eyes still on the viewer. Aristocratic.
>So what’s the line? Is it a joke, some kind of pun?
> …Wente Chardonnay: Fuck niggers.

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perfect, i read it in his voice
well done

I get it, I' just saying it is what it is. Is it out of the question to remark on when I don't buy something the writer suggests? Ted is drops into the story pre-made. It is what it is

>its literally the core question lf the medium.
Literally WHAT THE FUCK are you talking about. I have a PhD in Film & Television from Chicago and I don't know what the fuck you're trying to say. Fiction has historical inaccuracies? Is that your "daring" discovery? Christ you encounter some aspergtismal freaks on this website. Form a coherent sentence.

everytime

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That's just not true, family values were promoted just honest family values. Don was someone who outwardly promoted conservative family values, but this was hypocritical because he was a cheating drunk. However Lane or that alcoholic guy I forget the name of had family values, and they were portrayed as good.

The most endearing trait of Pete's is his loyalty to Don.

What the fuck was the point of that fake guy who Pete can't tell whether to try to fuck over or not who gets in with Detroit? Worst character.

Pete's lack of self-awareness in this scene is what makes it so good. He doesn't actually want any of that, he just thinks he does because of some weird concept he has of what he needs.

I think bob was supposed to be a young don. Another handsome man with a fake identity willing to do anything to be successful. And the show got to have another gay character after sal was fired. I agree that bob was kinda shoehorned in

(NOT GREAT) BOB

Just how many completely fake people (as in resume items, degrees, names, entire identities) worked in the corporate world back then?

>Worst character.
there's lots of fake kiss-ass suck-up types out there, there's millions of Bobs out there right now, climbers who would rather put the energy they should be putting into doing their work into buying gifts for the top dogs, arranging to accidentally bump into somebody important in the parking lot/lobby/halls, always offering to help somebody else with their work rather than doing their own, etc

t. faggot
read some hemingway, you little piece of shit nigger

>t.

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HEY GUYS

JUST IN CASE YOU GUYS DIDNT GET IT THE FIRST 100 HINTS

I'M A FUCKING FAGGOT LOL

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based

poor Sal, a man denied his arc

>BEAUTIFUL MALE CLIENT
Thank you!!!

>SAL
I must be loyle to my creative director.

>tfw his arc would have ended in kino 60s electroshock therapy

Theres's hundreds of films that are better, but no tv shows. Sopranos and Twin Peaks make up the rest of the TV triumvirate. Ignore Wire and Rome shitters.

I've heard this is a good one. Honestly though, TV is such a chore.

How does one achieve inner peace, lads?

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Coke

>And that frog...was me, sitting on a dirty mattress in a brothel. And the chardonnay was actually a half melted Crunch bar

>I must be loyle to my creative director

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Kek, imprisoned for committing "sodomy"

Coca Cola, refreshing and Regular. Not diet. Tastes delicious after a warm day in the sun.

>I'm rewatching this with my gf, who is watching for the first time
weird flex, but ok

Nothing implied he transcended, or became enlightened or some hardcore hippie shit, just that he found peace and comfort right there in that commune. He found himself in Leonard's (fridge guy) monologue, because he felt the same way: as an outsider in his own life, workplace and family. Throughout the show he ran away from his problems, and constantly said you're supposed to move forward. That message is exactly what the guru in the final scene said "a new day brings new ideas (...) a new you.", which isn't a conflict with Don's approach to life, but rather the same speech he carried on with him. So it does make sense that we see him so peaceful in the ending: he found comfort in being who he is.

Also, the ambiguous ending implies he came back to advertising later, coming up with the Coca Cola ad that we see before the credits, as it's inspired by the flower power love culture of the era, and it's the account he received on McCaan Erikson.

haha ecks dee, user!!

>show ends with him at peace with himself having joined a community that cares about him
>LEL HE EXPLOITED IT AND WENT BACK TO CORPORATE WORLD
Go away, this show isn't for you.

Man you must be a real fuckup to be here at your age.

based pete and lane vote here

>tfw you go back and re-watch from S1

don is so different in the pilot - he seriously looks 4-5 years younger between the pilot and episode 2 and acts a bit differently too

Do not try to change reality, that's impossible. Instead, only try to realize the truth...there is no reality. Then you'll see that it is not reality that changes, it is only yourself.

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>it's one or the other!!!

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Man you must be a real autist to believe everything you read, especially on 4channel of all places.

Its a pretty safe comment to throw out. You're only taking offense at it because you're a fuckup yourself.

fuck off, you dipshit
it is heavily implied that the coke ad was inspired by hippie culture, which is in no way a cynical take, but rather a realistic depiction of how advertising bases itself on trends and fads in order to reach out to other people
besides, the fact that Don may have been inspired by the commune to put love and peace ideals into advertising is still a good arc closure for him, and doesn't deny a possible resolution for his inner problems
finally, you must be really naive to think that hippie culture wasn't mostly bulshit and that most comunes (such as the one depicted in the end of the show) weren't trying themselves to capitalize on hippie culture

>song that plays in real life ad plays at end of episode as don smirks
>UHH NO WAY DID HE GO BACK TO New York AND MAKE THE COKE AD HE ACTUALLY BECAME LE ENLIGHTENED MAN AND HAD A GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH SALLY

fuck off, quit throwing your dogshit fantasy onto what actually happened

It's obvious in like the first 5 minutes its going to be a deconstruction of the suffocating artificiality and social constrictions of that class in that era. It may as well scream it through a megaphone rights into your face.

Scene 1 episode 1:

Don starts talking about advertising to a black waiter. He says he served in a war, which Don is later revealed to also have done, but they're now in very different social positions despite their similar sacrifices. Don is suave and at ease in his suit, the black guy is hunched and beat up in a menial job. Almost instantly the black guy's boss shows up and says 'is this guy bothering you, he can be a little chatty' because its clear the guy is constantly treated as being on thin ice, despite doing nothing wrong, because of his race. That's literally the very first scene of this 8 season show.

That first episode also works hard to firmly establish the themes of sexism and sexual harrasement through Peggy. it's not framed neutrally. The viewer is meant to take it that stuff is very bad.

The fact that the kind of person who writes these screeds actually got several seasons into Mad Men thinking it was positive about that era really speaks for itself.

He didn't smirk. What the fuck? It was a smile of contentment. He found what he was searching for literally the entire series. Remember all those scenes he went back to California and was at peace there? It was a state that called to him, and he finally made it back there permanently. Trying to argue like this fuck that he went back to cold, concrete New York City really spits in the face of all the hard work the show did to try to show that the west coast (symbolic for Don's peace, ala peace sign -- hippie sign) with its sun and vibrant colors was where Don was meant to end up.

Good post, except you meant to say these sneeds.

Fuck off kid - listen, go take Intro to Film 101 and learn about how this stuff works, punk.

m8 it's like saying OJ didn't do it. I personally stand by my opinion that yes, he did have a very real moment at the commune, but that he also went on to make the Coke ad (which was largely influenced by said moment).

>Remember all those scenes he went back to California and was at peace there?
that's why he got there in the first place and found Stephanie
he was running away from stressful NY and trying to find peace in Californa, as he did many times before
except this time, he was even more stressed out, and his problems were too deep for him to just run away
so the time he spent in the convent helped him find that peace and take it with him to wherever he went
he no longer had to forget about himself to feel good, but rather, he started feeling good about being himself
which also doesn't mean he couldn't have used those things he learned in his work with advertising

no but I was able to retire (don't worry about what that is, you don't need to know) at an early age (40s) and I enjoy coming here for the keks and it helps pass the day while the kids are at school and the wife is at work

Fuck off smartass college bigger. 'Ugh what the fuck i went to school and they asked this question there, how dare you.' Fuck off. I didnt revolve my post around your education, I asked the common pivotal question that you admit occupies professors and students, so why the hostility?

at the start of the show pete is unlikeable, thats the point of his character

This. What a normal and mentally healthy post

Haha this show was about how epic white people are for wearing suits and that women belong in the kitchen and how better life is without blacks haha

Nice

>i went to school, and i dont get it. Are you really asking a simple question?
Yep. I love Mad Men, but not every time the writers do something, is it inherently believable and realistic. I accept Ted as a foil to Don, but there is factually no reality to Ted's career that makes him Don's equal except his alleged position. I take the plot for what it is, but when I think about it I don't have one single reason to believe the real 1960s ad world allowed increasingly meek foils to hardline creatives to thrive. That's all.

>Mad Men is a "screed"
listen retard, you really shouldn't have stopped watching the show halfway through the first episode, yes they had to establish their progressive "politically correct" bona fides initially but once they were in the clear and out from under the microscope and in no danger of being proclaimed the second coming of the 3rd Reich they were able to drop that heavy-handed shit by the second season, they ended up telling a really well balanced version of the events that took place in the 60s and they weren't preachy and smug and all moralizing about it, a lot of real conservatives, like myself, really appreciate the show and actually think it ended up kinda celebrating, even glorifying, the old school patriarchal WASP America that we remember from our childhoods.

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well not JUST that

Youre right the show got less heavy handed with time, but they had civil rights episodes and entire holocaust charactera late into the running. Its not a shill show but they spend plenty of time indicting the era throughout

you seem to have those couple of references over-blown in your mind, they were quite minor in the grand scheme of the show, and Ginzo wasn't given 10 minutes every episode to do a monologue about the 6 gorillion he related a personal experience about being a war orphan and it wasn't played as more than the one character's experience (although I'm sure it happened thousands of times), shit my mom had a girlfriend who was born in an air raid shelter in England during WW2 during a raid. My whole life I've grown up with stories like these being relayed to me by family members who lived during WW2 and the 50s and 60s and all that and it's just the story of their lives and colorful and not all the show's dialogue is suggesting some moral conclusion needs to be derived, it's just back story to the one young jew in the office and honestly much more interesting and memorable than if he had told her "I was born in a hospital in Hoboken on a Thursday"

Wow, boomers really are as retarded as the memes imply.

Ultimately I think we both agree the show is very balanced about addressing the good and bad of the times, but a big chunk of the show is about prohlems rather than solutions of the era

>born on the 60s
>on Yea Forums
>claims to be "conservative"

Unless you came here before 2015, I demand that you fuck off immediately

Who fucking cares? Do you have a point or are you just gonna throw your geriatric potbelly around like its not a crematorium fire hazard in waiting?

good one zoomie with no friends

Damn forgot how much Greg looks like Marlon Brando

whatever you say person of no consequence to anybody

you think that's pretty clever, don't you? trust me, even your mom thinks you are cringe

>elderly fag rests on his laurels, pushing unconvincing ideas while asumming the worst of strangers
Where have I heard this before

>Ultimately I think we both agree the show is very balanced about addressing the good and bad of the times
this we can agree on

>but a big chunk of the show is about prohlems rather than solutions of the era
I really don't even know what to say here except I don't think it was ever supposed to be about that

you really sound like you're doing a parody of a neckbeard cringelord, PLEASE tell that what you're doing

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This. People forget that regardless of the countless inner struggles that Don was facing, and despite his life being a lie, he was always a really fucking good ad man. The whole point about the ending is that Don finally learns to reconcile the trauma of Dick Whitman with all of the successes and talent that have come to define Don Draper. It makes complete sense that once he finds inner peace he would stop running from the thing that he is best at, which is creating masterful content. The hippie influence of the coke commercial is merely inspiration from real-life events as stated earlier.

I think you are deliberately ignoring the subtext of the show because it doesn’t line up with your politics.

>meek
did you actually watch the show? when ted is first introduced he is anything but meek and in fact beats don at his own game a couple of times.

The Americans?

Why be useful? Just be happy, fuck a woman, and enjoy your hobbies and friends.

Oh, then I'm complete. Thanks user. Still going to be underslept tomorrow, usually I'm not up this late.

>WITH CHEWING GUM ON HIS PUBICS!
What did he mean by this?

>DON WILL DIE BY JUMPING OFF A BUILDING LIKE THE INTRO
>PETE WILL SHOOT UP THE OFFICE WITH THE RIFLE
I miss mad men threads

still wish someone jumped out the window like a mad man
Actually I still wish the ending was an 80 year old modern Don saying he's learned to regret nothing. The old bag.

yikes