/LD+R/ general, sexy space spiders edition

But "Gretta" shows that she is spinning many lies at a time so it's hard to be sure which parts of the story are real, even the ones implying the ship really did have a routing error or that she has some kind of emotional connection.
I don't think the navigator's part was just a fabrication though because her reaction to Gretta was priming not just suspicion in the Captain but violent hostility.
The psychic illusion had to have limitations and I think trying to fit two subjects in the same reality was too much for it to take when you have to focus on two different viewpoints testing and rejecting the reality at a time.

And if the spiders weren't feeding off the survivors in some way, how did they sustain such a huge population?

Would you want to wake up to that?

How was he able to stand when he woke up? His entire body had completely atrophied

What huge population? There's only one spider

He looks mostly just malnourished. Like a Somali Pirate

Was he really far from home or the spider just lied to him

Going back to watch it again to be sure but I though in the reveal we saw the entirety of the ship and the surrounding space had become infested and there were a spiders throughout. Hold on

I'd want to wake up, to anything. If they still had some strength they could have tried and get the fuck out of there.

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Except we actually see the navigator dead when Thom wakes up.

>And if the spiders weren't feeding off the survivors in some way, how did they sustain such a huge population?
Gretas complex is self sustaining, she doesn't need outsiders for food and even then she's the only one of her kind.

The short story also elaborates on it a bit more, Greta has ant-like helpers but she's the only sentient being from her ship, there are other aliens in the complex as well.

So when the FUCK is NASA going to train some marines to fly a spaceship and drop nukes on that monster

Ah you read the short story! How much longer did it go than this episode? Was anything left out besides inner dialogue?

So the Navigator was dead but it was recent compared to the other crew members who was just bones right next to her. And that crew member was the one Thom wanted to wake up but Gretta specifically prevents him from doing. Suggesting that the psychic illusion is more reliant on reality than credited.

bad bonus situation

Not much, it just elaborates on various things a bit more, the ending is a bit darker though since it suggests that Thom never acclimates.

In the short story both crew members died in the jump because they painted their pods which slowly contaminated the filtration systems over a hundred years, Thom lived because his was stock standard.

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The navigator woman wasn't real after the jump. It was shown that her and the black guy's containers had been broken open, presumably during the crash due to the course plot malfunction. She was more like his subconscious trying to tell him things didn't add up.

This and the yogurt one were the only good ones

Probably that would be more comfy planet to live than earth in a couple of centuries

So now that the dust has settled, we can all agree that Fish Night is the pleb filter episode, right?

Did you read any of the other shorts from that writer? I heard he did the Zima Blue story too.

I think that's an interesting creative difference, to show one body at a different stage of decay than another and have the navigator be the source of hostility over the illusion

But the navigator looked more fresh than the black guys skeleton. Leads me to believe that the Navigator was killed when she ruined the illusion for Thom

I want an entire series of Secret War

I believe she survived the jump but the spider tried to use the simulation on her with no success. So after all of the attempts and her waking up lot's of times she died of starvation. After the spider failed with her she moved to Thom

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Could Gretta have been trying to use Thom to help her along in accepting the simulation and after she still violently rejected the reality she had to just put her out?
Where did the self sustaining information come from? I looks like a giant hive/web that is used to trap. And if it wasn't a trap, how and why would the spider crest such a massive complex?

Thoughts on Zima Blue? I've always loved the idea that artificial intelligence would transcend humanity but the idea that it would cyclically return to it's origin was very comfy in delivery

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Yeah, looking at the bodies she’s just evacuated whereas other guy looks skeleton.

Plus Greta says “we’ll try again tomorrow as long as it takes” and she seems to be the one immediately spooked. Like she’s tried so many times before.

Like someone said, maybe she is the first one to become stuck there and is happy to help the others or if she genuinely needs the company too as a sentiment being. Just wonder what she eats. Brought in gently, with her voice you could probably grow to accept it. Although be happy enough seeing it in simulation. Does the book imply if she’s doing this to all others trapped there at the same time or does she move from one to another? (And likely is a very long lived species)

>general
Be more of a cancerous faggot

Fantastic. The animation itself was sublime and the first frame and the last tieing together was beautiful, strongest of the bunch

I thought it was trash.
Boring concept and ugly visuals.

Yeah I wasn’t sold on the character designs at all.

It's same old sci-fi theme that is presented in Solaris and Roadside Picnic: motives of the aliens are incomprehensible for humans. This alien just wants for captain to be happy but he would never accept it as even its appearence is unimaginable terror for him

The navigator wasn't real. She was dead. The navigator in his dreams was his subconscious trying to wake him up.

I see quite a lot of people wondering, and speculating the science behind the glitch and Greta's intentions (that she fed on the life forms who got lost there). While it is ok to do so when you see this episode without the context of source material and having the freedom to interpret it the way you want, I would highly recommend reading the original story. It is much more detailed and really describes every aspect which could not be squeezed into a 17 minute episode. Two things which the story makes clear:

The transport system being used was created by an alien race which wasn't around anymore, and with time, some of the routes had become unreliable and everyone was exposed to a degree of uncertainty in their travels. There was no sinister plot which involved stranding travellers thousands of light years away from home.
Greta is a benevolent alien who was the first to arrive there and over a period of time created a station to tend to all the other alien life forms which arrived there as a result of the glitch in the transport system. Helping other beings was a means for her to deal with her own sorrow and loneliness, and gave it a sense of purpose. She tried doing the same with Thom; when she simulated Suzy waking up again and again, and gave Thom a distraction in the form of him bringing her to terms with the fact that they were thrown light years away from their intended spot and would never be able to go home again (in reality, Suzy was dead upon arrival).

>known bug exists for 1000s of years.
Yep sounds like software development

Trauma doctors see worse.

>think Animatrix meets cuckold porn
I'll pass

I still wonder if she’s happy with the companionship. Like if people wake up and accept the actual reality I guess there is food and air there to survive.

Failing that, I assume she goes into memories to help with the adjustment. If that’s the case, I work with a girl called Angela. Wake me up and I want to have sex with her. Attempt to tell me, then the day after there was a girl at school called Rachael I’d like to have sex with too. She can be her.

Tbh, after some adjustment I think you could cope. I’d be more Annoyed if Greta as an insect wasn’t actually female. Not like you can be intimate with her I imagine, but accepting her for who she is would likely be possible over time.

I don't know. But I'm sure what we see in the simulation never happend

>drained and dead
im 99% sure he just died from lack of life support.

incase you didnt notice the life support systems were off and the guy was basically in a coma and was starving to death.

the spider wasnt draining them. they w ere just dying from lack of life support. essientally the spider was making it so they died peacefully and not OH FUCK IM STARVING TO DEATH AND IM WEAK AS FUCK. AHHH THE PAIN.

Do you think she waits till the life support fails then try’s to make them comfy and leaves them there until so. Or she wants them out of the pods and accepting the reality. Would other aliens stuck there be able to work together like say that movie enemy mine (or darmok and jalad at tanagers) and build Something to help them all.

I was expecting united states troops to arrive at the location btfo the spider and save the guy. This short wasn't very American

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In the story there were many different types of species that had landed there and some of them had bought into keeping it kosher. Greta wasn't alone. There was just no way for her to save Thom unless he accept reality and obviously he isn't ready for that.

I know it looks nightmarish at first, but that's actually an ideal of space based engineering. A completely self sufficient, self repairing, self expanding set up. Sure it looks grotesque but the modern world looks weird as shit to stone age humans.

Its just a spider web retard

>Does the book imply if she’s doing this to all others trapped there at the same time or does she move from one to another? (And likely is a very long lived species)

Thom is the first human to get trapped there, but there's an unspecified number of other aliens who have arrived before, who she has successfully acclimated to the new environment.

In the book, Greta explains those gates humans think are limited to a few thousand star systems are actually everywhere in the galaxy and in a lot of areas outside (Like the Magellianic Clouds, where the story takes place). The humans sort of learned how to use the gates after hundreds of years of study but not really.

When he is having sex with Greta in the hallucination is the spider bouncing up and down on his dick in reality?

Yeah, why would you want a containment thread when you can have 6 separate threads about a different episode each

You didn't notice the huge pussy on that thing? He 100% fucked it. Probably why he screamed.

As a space faring race by that time frame and used to portal transport I don’t think it would be massively hard to adjust to the reality. It’s more the everyone you ever loved being dead and as she says, the world being 300 or so years more advanced than when younleft. (Gunbuster style). Surely the concept of hyper sleep oversleep/missed journeys must be something that they’d understand is possible. I guess living in a space spiderweb eating some sort of organic mulch that grows there and knowing you are likely the only human there at all is the tough one. With no books or traditional entertainment for us. Greta seemed to have the ability to do ok. In the book does it mention how she does it, or if it’s a finite resource? Like she can only do it when your in the pod asleep from what the episode tells us. But eventually it will break however she could still “talk” to Thom out of the hyper sleep.

I thought that was its mouth? I guess it could have been sucking him off just like that medieval fantasy web comic with the spider bj.

Nobody is making any threads about this shit you cancerous reddit faggot.
>defending generals
Unironically neck yourself you mouthbreathing spastic

>I guess it could have been sucking him off just like that medieval fantasy web comic with the spider bj.

Based Oglaf

In the short story its based off, both of the other crew have painted murals on the inside of their pods. Over such a long journey the paint flaked off and blocked the life support. Thus the captain is the only one to survive the 700 year trip.

Could you imagine living for eternity and having to face fuck a spider alien? Sure it would take some time getting use to spooky spider alien but it feels good if you close your eyes.

Hopefully someone has the balls to adapt this very closely to the source material.

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Your loss

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pleb

That one sucked dick.

this seems to imply the transportation to the spider web was immediate. Clearly the device they use takes time otherwise they would not get into cryo-pod equivalents right before the jump, and one could assume since they traveled so far that their ship was stuck in "hyperspace" for an extended duration hence the 100+ years time difference and that caused it to degrade and malfunction and probably get trashed when it arrived at the spider web. This probably caused the 2 crewmans death which leaves just tohm who can clearly have his memory wiped so we can't be sure the first iteration we see is the first iteration he experiences. I'd imagine the moment the ship appeared in spiderweb space it suffered damage and tohm woke up, spider lady grabbed the ship and since tohm was freaking out put him to sleep and attempted to integrate him.

It's made VERY clear that the spider alien is NOT feeding off of him. The reason he looks emaciated is because his stasis tank is broken and he has no way to feed himself on an alien space station.

He's literally all alone in space. The spider alien is using the simulation to help him mentally accept the fact that he'll never make it back home and he'll have to make a life for himself on the station (like many other aliens have done, including the spider alien).

How does having virtual-sex with a monster help him accept his fate?

In the short story, Thom is married to a woman named Katerina. The virtual sex is meant to test Thom's attachment to Katerina. If he was still attached, it would be very hard to him to let go and accept his new life aboard the space station. If he wasn't attached to his wife, he'd be able to move on.

In the Netflix short, you can hear in the last line when "she" says, "at least there's a familiar face". It's the social connection to something familiar that's supposed to slowly get him to acclimate to his new environment.

So can he actually survive there or is he just going to slowly starve to death?

he'll have to work with the other aliens to figure out if he can. he has no food stores and he's already almost dead.