The Harry Potter Economy

its a movie you stupid fucking faggot

Kind of begs the question, why does any Wizard need a job at all? Why have capitalism at all when you have magic?

why the fuck would wizards need money retard?

Has Rowling ever confirmed that the Prefects are just having orgies in their unisex bathroom with its swimming pool sized bath?
This is important information.

inb4 that faggot posts the fake Yea Forums picture and writes an essay about how harry potter is garbage tier book but atlas shrugged is the greatest book ever

The amazing possibilities of magic only illustrates how inherently evil Wizards are. They could be providing food and shelter for starving peoples but instead they hoard that magic shit.

Voldemort would have changed that. Voldemort would have brought magic to the world of Muggles. Voldemort is the good guy.

VOLDEMORT DID NOTHING WRONG.

it's a book, zoomer

I heard she wrote a novel under a different pen name and submitted it only to get rejected.

To literally everything in this thread.

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they need a spell loicense

Hasn’t it been established that the wizarding world is somewhat of a dystopia where all the good jobs are government jobs (aka ministry of magic jobs), and everyone else basically scrapes by on wizard welfare or works in the mostly shitty private sector?

Someone post the fucking pasta

heh, sneed.

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>Hasn’t it been established that the wizarding world is somewhat of a dystopia where all the good jobs are government jobs
Not by JKR

No!

What pasta?

JK Rowling only has personal knowledge of how the UK welfare system works. No idea about capitalism or the private sectors. That is why in Harry Potter, there is no real private sector to speak of, no contractors, and the best jobs in the Harry Potter universe are government jobs- at the ministry of magic, aurorers and teachers at the government ran school- hogwarts.

Jews

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the trolley witch is the hogwarts train itself
source the cursed child

>expecting a person who spent her whole life on welfare to know anything about how economics works

why do you need farmers if you can just conjure food?

plus they can do the thing where they stick their head in the chimney

it was also a book, and those have to actually make sense

yes, homosexual orgies

it's like going away to a military boarding school, you'll never be an officer in the Army, but you have all the skills. Same for the students at HW. They get done there and then go on to Uni and get a practical real world degree.

>ignoring that all kinds of jobs in harry potter are mentioned

there are literally tailors, landlords/real estate fags, wandmakers, confectioners, writers, etc. etc. etc. in the harry potter universe, it is implied to have as many jobs as the muggle world. for example the weaseley twins started up a candy company. it is common in most fiction not to specifically go into everyone's job because it's assumed unless stated otherwise that it has a normally functioning economy, you can read between the lines and tell the harry potter-verse has architects and janitors (squibs) and all kinds of shit. probably the major differences are 1) they obviously have their own banking/finance system via gringotts etc. presumably separated from muggle institutions (maybe there are wizards who also specialize in money laundering funds to connect to the muggle economy) and 2) most people don't do menial jobs since you can just use a wand for that, so most of the employment in the wizarding world is management tier. this could work because the wizarding population is tiny and they are all mostly filtered through wizarding schools so they have to know their shit at least a little bit

It was all set up as a series for 10 year olds where the logic of the world didn't matter. Then it became YO dredge that was supposed to have an important message about "society" and "totalitarianism" or whatever and in that context the world building made no sense.

reminder
a person with a gun could take even the most powerful wizard.
if voldemort won in the end and went on to wage war against muggles he would have died in less than 24 hours

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I doubt it. Writing a novel, even a terrible one, takes a lot of time and dedication and is still hard work. I cannot imagine a femoid, let alone a leftist like her, having the patience or work ethic to write a novel.

>the weaseley twins started up a candy company
They quit school and didn't even get their wizard GED's. It was a Joke/magic trick company.

>there are literally tailors, landlords/real estate fags, wandmakers, confectioners, writers, etc. etc. etc. in the harry potter universe, it is implied to have as many jobs as the muggle world.
JK Rowling emphasized in the books that the most prestigious jobs were government jobs. The Aurorers (wizard police) was what Harry strived to be, instead of being president or working at Nasa or becoming a fighter pilot (which would kind of be funny if they did it on faggy broomsticks). The ministry of magic was the end all be all of occupations wizards could be. Which was pretty pathetic.

The answer is, of course, that JK Rowling put absolutely no thought into her world when she wrote what was to become one of the dullest franchises in the history of movie franchises.Seriously, each episode following the boy wizard and his pals from Hogwarts Academy as they fight assorted villains has been indistinguishable from the others. Aside from the gloomy imagery, the series’ only consistency has been its lack of excitement and ineffective use of special effects, all to make magic unmagical, to make action seem inert.

Perhaps the die was cast when Rowling vetoed the idea of Spielberg directing the series; she made sure the series would never be mistaken for a work of art that meant anything to anybody?just ridiculously profitable cross-promotion for her books. The Harry Potter series might be anti-Christian (or not), but it’s certainly the anti-James Bond series in its refusal of wonder, beauty and excitement. No one wants to face that fact. Now, thankfully, they no longer have to.

>a-at least the books were good though r-right
"No!"
The writing is dreadful; the book was terrible. As I read, I noticed that every time a character went for a walk, the author wrote instead that the character "stretched his legs."

I began marking on the back of an envelope every time that phrase was repeated. I stopped only after I had marked the envelope several dozen times. I was incredulous. Rowling's mind is so governed by cliches and dead metaphors that she has no other style of writing. Later I read a lavish, loving review of Harry Potter by the same Stephen King. He wrote something to the effect of, "If these kids are reading Harry Potter at 11 or 12, then when they get older they will go on to read Stephen King." And he was quite right. He was not being ironic. When you read "Harry Potter" you are, in fact, trained to read Stephen King.

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A person with a vibrator could whip any wizards ass. Jazz Jennings and his tranny friends dialating would be enough to take down hogwarts.

The fuck the point is the skills if you aren't allowed to use them?

>Watch meme show once about lottery winners
>Some memester buys the winning ticket, but can't find it
>Camemelot tell him he needs to have the ticket to claim the money
>He looks everywhere
>Can't find it
>He tells them if they check the CCTV from the shop it'll confirm he bought the ticket
>Say they'll get back to him
>Time limit runs out
>Gets granted an "extension"
>One day he returns home and two people are waiting at his door
>One says they're from Camemelot and can confirm that he did indeed buy the winning ticket
>But the person they had brought with them was there to explain exactly why, despite knowing he bought the ticket, he wouldn't be allowed to claim the prize money

That's exactly what that is like.
At least the irl guy had something of a happy ending by writing a book about it and making bank. The wizards are just getting dabbed on.

Why do wizards need to buy new products when they can repair them with a spell?
Why do wizards need cleaning supplies when they can vanish messes and get rid of stains with a spell?
Why do wizards need a large supply of products in a store when they can simply multiply one (1) product?
Why do adult wizards need cars and trains and horse drawn carriages when they can ride flying creatures, use Floo Powder or a Portkey, or Apparate?
Why do wizards have job offers for menial tasks (i.e. washing dishes, cleaning the house, etc.) when they have literal elf slaves happy to do it, or have magic take care of it all?
Why do wizards need police or hit squads when a bunch of kids can learn everything from books in their spare time?
Why do wizards freak out about Muggles noticing them when they can use memory charms?

>the only jobs after graduating are working at the Ministry, running a shop on Diagon Alley or operating the god damn candy trolley on the train.
When will this meme die?

>*teleports behind you*
>*mind controls you*
>"heh, nothing personnel, muggle"

They don't
They don't
There is more than 1 person in the world
They don't
They don't
Crime exists and you need people dedicated to dealing with it
They don't

it seems to work for the runescape bank

It's a children's book you absolute faggots

And there's the truth of it. With almost 100% certainty if she wrote any of the book at all, other people are responsible for writing the majority of it and she was just chosen as the face with the idea being that a woman author writing a book like that is more appealing and marketable than the book itself. Look at her tweets about the HP universe. She has no fucking idea about the series and all of her ideas seem really bizarre afterthoughts that you would make if you were given a story rather than if you wrote the story originally.

Based retard user.

>Death Eaters apparate into every political and military leaders office and AK them.
>As soon as their replacement steps up do the same to them (use invis hax if they have better security.)
>Keep killing any leaders that step up and then just start randomly bombing civilian areas, poisoning crops, unleashing plagues of dementors/werewolves/giant fucking spiders.
>eventually large amounts of people start worshipping wizards as gods.
>round up everyone else and genocide enough of them before they realize they can just shoot you.

Ez victory for the magicfags.

Harry Potter should have carried a 1911.

Here's why:

Imagine how epic the first movie would be if Harry had put a breeching charge on the bathroom wall, flash-banged the hole, and then went in wearing NVGs and a Kevlar-weave stab-vest, carrying a SPAS-12.

And have you noticed that only Europe seems to a problem with Deatheaters? Maybe it's because Americans have spent the last 200 years shooting deer, playing GTA: Vice City, and keeping an eye out for black helicopters over their compounds. Meanwhile, Brits have been cutting their steaks with spoons. Remember: gun-control means that Voldemort wins. God made wizards and God made muggles, but Samuel Colt made them equal.

Now I know what you're going to say: "But a wizard could just disarm someone with a gun!" Yeah, well they can also disarm someone with a wand (as they do many times throughout the books/movies). But which is faster: saying a spell or pulling a trigger?

Avada Kedavra, meet Avtomat Kalashnikova.

Imagine Harry out in the woods, wearing his invisibility cloak, carrying a .50bmg Barrett, turning Deatheaters into pink mist, scratching a lightning bolt into his rifle stock for each kill. I don't think Madam Pomfrey has any spells that can scrape your brains off of the trees and put you back together after something like that. Voldemort's wand may be 13.5 inches with a Phoenix-feather core, but Harry's would be 0.50 inches with a tungsten core. Let's see Voldy wave his at 3,000 feet per second. Better hope you have some Essence of Dittany for that sucking chest wound.

I can see it now...Voldemort roaring with evil laughter and boasting to Harry that he can't be killed, since he is protected by seven Horcruxes, only to have Harry give a crooked grin, flick his cigarette butt away, and deliver what would easily be the best one-liner in the entire series:

"Well then I guess it's a good thing my 1911 holds 7+1."

And that is why Harry Potter should have carried a 1911.

This, it's all about the atmosphere, not about realism.

90% work for the government because it's written by a woman. As you say you can work in one of the three streets of shops, that probably employs 100 people total. You can get an outside job finding treasure for the (((goblins))) that probably employs like 6 people. You can be on a quidditch team which is like less than a hundred people for the whole league. Work at Hogwarts which seems to have about a dozen member of staff for what the stupid bitch claims is somehow a thousand pupils (this would obviously require half a dozen teachers per subject). And as you say you can be the trolley witch and presumably the train has at least two engineers.

What no one points out is that it would be extremely easy for wizards to live by theft and deception so I assume that's how most of them get along.

it just works

There is the upper classes whose kids can attend Hogwards (even the poorest of which, the Weasleys and the Longbottoms, are govt officials and aurors) but what you don't see is the 90% of wizards with little to no magic knowledge who are forced to prostitute themselves and work service jobs for the whims of their rich reality bending overlords.

A wizard would be better off abandoning the wizarding world entirely, and using his powers to dominate in a muggle career. I'm not talking rock star or world leader, or anything that will bring him undue attention, something like a super successful real estate agent or stock broker.

What would be the point? Electronics don't work around magic, and even if it did anything you want could be conjured, transfigured or easily stolen.

>Electronics don't work around magic
Fuck electronics, the real way to get ahead in the world is to manipulate people. Watch Wall Street for fucks sake
>anything you want could be conjured, transfigured or easily stolen.
The only thing we want is pussy, everything else is just a way to get that.

>Electronics don't work around magic
They don't work where there is a lot of magic (whatever that means, spells give off magitrons I guess) like Hogwarts. Most places it wouldn't be a problem.

That's why Wizard Jesus invented the Imperius curse and love potions m8

Harry being angry made all the lights flicker in the Dursley's house, actual spell use would probably destroy them.

i don't think she's anything related to any popular tendency, she's fake woke and everyone knows it

Voldemort had a constant deflection charm around himself, which protected him from projectiles.

Not all are adept or adept in the same types of magic

No the government took control in the later books

>Tolkien shit tier
why?

Underrated post.

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why do all the kids bother with the hogwarts express train when they can just take the family fireplace to school?

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How are you supposed to believe that Ron's family was "poor" when they were all wizards?

Muggleborns can't use the floo, and it gives the kids a chance to socialise

Underrated post. The runescape economy is and has always ben a shitshow though.

>what are asset backed securities.
The dirty goblins don't need to take the gold out of the vault to invest its worth into somewhere.

It also helps when it is hinted that the Goblins might not even be paid in gold.

In the Deathly Hallows Pt2, Griphook says something along the lines of 'gold doesn't matter to me' so there must be some kind of life essence they drain, like jews irl, that fulfils them

She's coming out with the forskins and vaginal flaps of hogwarts book pretty soon.

>essence of dittany

you killed me user.

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chapter 4 is relevant here

Technically you can't create food. You can however modify a small amount of food into a larger amount of food.

this essentially. her logic is "it just works, bigot".

She has an entire other series under a pen name

She wrote Casual Vacancy under a different pen name, it didn't sell at all so most publishers changed it back to Rowling in hopes retards would want more Potter.

I don't think the economy really makes sense, but my attempt at logical head-canon is that potter-verse is basically post-scarcity, like Star Trek. But it hasn't culturally come to terms with that since wizards still have a mostly medieval culture and are highly independent. It operates more like libertorpia.

Most wizards don't normally have to worry about poverty, but there is zero attempt to help people find their place in the world beyond teaching them magic. If you can't make a living cataloging dragons then fuck you. Most of the "normal" jobs like positions in the wizarding government are for people that for whatever reason wanted something uncreative and safe, but slots are limited. If you don't get one of those slots then you have to be your own CEO and find something that works, but the one requirement is that you can not interact with the muggle world.

Why would wizards even have civilizations? They can easily hunt animals meaning they have no need to ever farm at all thus never for civilization.

>HPMoR

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One of the silliest retcons there is

WHY DID THE WEASLEYS HAVE AN OVEN

Their society grew up and lived among muggles until the 1600s.

>my attempt at logical head-canon is that potter-verse is basically post-scarcity, like Star Trek
This is pretty accurate desu. There's very little you need to buy once you've bought your wand and no longer need to pay for schooling (assuming you even do) and school-related expenses like textbooks and potions ingredients. Things like houses and furniture can be constructed with magic, once you're an adult the only things you need money for are luxury items you don't know how to magic up yourself.

and then they were expelled from 129 different countries for literally the same reasons and blame non-magic people for their problems.

But why do they mimic muggles? They have no need for mass organized trade due to magic. While muggles chimp out the wizards could be living in the woods peacefully.

JK Rowling didn't think anything through with this series. Try not to think too deeply about it.

Well, I liked the Prisoner of Azkaban the best. Best book and best movie.

Most retarded thing is wizards dont rule the world since wizards have existed since Roman times when muggles couldnt do jack to them. Wizards would enslave muggles and build societies only for them.

> Architects
Where do they learn their actual trades?

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What are you talking about m8? Having all the shops close together is more convenient for shoppers and makes them more likely to browse other nearby stores when they go out buying things. The muggles may even have stolen the idea from muggles seeing as the statute of secrecy came into effect well after the invention of towns.

Why didnt Voldemort apparate into a nuclear sub, imperious everyone and fire a nuke up dumbledore's ass

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yeah and whomst designed that triple decker bus? I mean that was pretty cool

>Avada Kedavra, meet Avtomat Kalashnikova.
Fucking lost it, thanks for the pasta, lad.

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So you are creating more food. Is JK Rowling so profoundly retarded that she thinks doubling the mass of a piece of bread is completely different to duplicating the same piece of bread?

Money makes no sense for wizards. What the actual fuck would they use gold for? Jobs make no sense since Accio can bring any animal you want to eat right next to you meaning you dont need shit to eat and drink thus no point in jobs.

>Students didn't pay for Hogworts
>Most of them didn't work for the Ministry
>The trolley woman was probably a squid, like that caretaker dude

Just admit that you're assmad because the wizarding world is full of NEETs, and you'll never live in it, and will be working a fry machine in your adult years, instead of fucking around with magic.

apparently throughout history there has always been a powerful retard like Dumbledore preventing the dictators from taking control on a global scale.

Wizards have forcefields so guns are useless. Also heres a game changer a wizard using magic to create a floating gun that shoots your ass without them needing to pull the trigger

>Technically you can't create food.
The hell I can't, it's called cooking.

The economy had an intense sexual relationship with Dumbledore!

How exactly is the Ministry elected?

>The trolley woman was probably a squid
she is canonically a demon with razor hands.

Wizard levitates rock then accelerates it to mach 1.
Congrats the wizard just basically made a gun.
Whats funny is wizards could have done this any time ago. Long before muggles and their faggy chemistry.

>gringotts bank run by goblins

No really, how the fuck did she get away with this

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Why did you feel the need to type out that insanely unrelated diatribe?

There are some skills that not all wizards possess and therefore it's easier to hire someone else to do, like making wands or high quality broomsticks and gathering potion ingredients. Without a friend who already owns one and would let you duplicate there's you'd also need a book seller, then there's the service industry; restaurants, pubs and inns and the like. It wouldn't be a big economy, obviously, which is why there's only a couple of small shopping districts for the whole country, but there is a small need. But you're right that you can survive on your own if you want to, though your lifestyle wouldn't be as lavish as most people would like, the Weasleys are pretty self-sufficient with their farmlands for food, homemade clothes and hand-me-downs for the things they had to buy like wands and brooms.

Did you even read the books, or watch the movies? LOL. Olivander, Harry's grandfather, that professor who wrote all the books, there were plenty of wealthy wizards who didn't work for the Ministry.

And, it's a bunch of kid's books and movies, but you're sniveling about how unauthentic it is.

Time to seriously reconsider how you spend your time, NEET.

it was never the same after the exchange

it was the wild west of capitalism, now prices are virtually fixed, you can't find deals from items players sell at general stores anymore, it's a crying shame.

Dumbledore would shit in the corridor and magic away the evidence.

this guy

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Weasleys have a house that autocleans itself thats an example of how economy destroying magic really is. All you need is some faggot transmuting rocks into solid gold to crash the economy.

I am not aware of a single MMO that has had an economy like that. Gold had a real tangible value in RS. The fact that you could get ripped off, rip others off, and actually lose shit when you died really made the economy interesting.

Gold created from other materials leaves behind a magical residue that the goblins can detect with their specialised noses.

I want this movie. Directed by the people of Turbo Kid.

I've no doubt the goblins would be wise to that sort of thing, and/or galleons having some sort of property that makes them difficult or impossible to counterfeit (otherwise they wouldn't use them as currency). I seem to remember in Goblet of Fire Ludo Bagman tries to fob the Goblins off with Leprechaun Gold but they saw through the deceit and fucked him up over it.

Make the gold leave no residue.

Even Rowlings wasn't this retarded. She established in the books that transmutation of gold is impossible, or so difficult to figure out, nobody has done it yet.

Even Rowlings with her vagina autism put limits on magic, but your autism is more powerful, so you think magic can do anything, and that any wizard can do every spell, even though even she established that skill was a factor in wizzzzurding, as that lazy cunt Potter never mastered occulamency.

What happens if a wizard turned all the gold in the vaults into human shit? Just inagine your a wizard and another wizard turns all of the gold on you into literal smelly human shit.

>Is JK Rowling so profoundly retarded
yes.

What? Voldemort would have used magic to dominate the muggles, dummy

I think the only legit answer is that the Wizarding community is fucking small as fuck. Hogwarts has 4 houses, with 7 grades. Each house only had like 5-8 kids per gender, per grade. So let's be generous and say 20 Griffindors per year, 80 students per grade, times 7 is 560 students in hogwarts total.

We only know of 2 other wizarding schools, and they aren't co-ed.

DIagon alley wasn't it's own city it was a tiny district and the epicenter of wizarding world. Wizards were in hiding all around the world and basically lived lives as muggles most of the time I believe. It's not like countries even had 1% of their population being wizards.

In the context of Harry's fortune, it's likely just inheritence from his parents relatives dying and maybe dumbledore selling their house and property when they died. Even today, if your grandparent dies, and they own a house, and all their shit gets divided, regular people can inherit anywhere from $25-$200k. So considering harry had 2 successful parents without lots of siblings its likely harry had like $500k-$2m in wizarding dollars, which only looks like a lot because gold coins are onerous as fuck. that same amount of gold would look impressive as fuck in dollar bills, too

tl;dr there's probably only 10,000 wizards world wide or some shit

>Why do wizards need to buy new products when they can repair them with a spell?
Some things wear with time so even repair casting can't fix them, the Weasleys were proof of this.
>Why do wizards need cleaning supplies when they can vanish messes and get rid of stains with a spell?
Magic oriented stains can't just be magically removed, it takes powerful potions to remove them which is why there is a strong curriculum toward teaching Potions.
>Why do wizards need a large supply of products in a store when they can simply multiply one (1) product?
>Why do adult wizards need cars and trains and horse drawn carriages when they can ride flying creatures, use Floo Powder or a Portkey, or Apparate?
Portkeys and the Floo Network are run by an inefficient bureaucratic government, alternatives help. Flying Creatures are dangerous.
>Why do wizards have job offers for menial tasks (i.e. washing dishes, cleaning the house, etc.) when they have literal elf slaves happy to do it, or have magic take care of it all?
Only wealthy pureblood families have access to House Elves
>Why do wizards need police or hit squads when a bunch of kids can learn everything from books in their spare time?
>Why do wizards freak out about Muggles noticing them when they can use memory charms?
Memory Charms have negative long term effects on Muggles and spellcasting on muggles is strictly enforced and regulated.

YOU CAN'T JUST MAGICALLY REMOVE IT.

Yeah but they saw through that cos the gold vanishes after a couple hours.

I think they establish that gold can't be created out of whole cloth, and wizard cant just magic up things out of thin air, so thats why they can't just make food out of nothing or whatever.

I still think it's retarded that technically, Muggles are actually superior to wizards in a lot of ways, just with our technology.

You know whats more impossible than transmuting matter?

Unexplained attractive forces aka Accio
Creating matter from nowhere
Turning a rat into a fucking cup(which is transmutation Rowling you dumb cunt)
Oh yes creating energy beams from nowhere
Teleporting

Yet turning ricks into gold is impossible what a retard Rowling is.

>We only know of 2 other wizarding schools, and they aren't co-ed.
We know of the Salem Academy as well in America, but that also does help point out how fucking small the wizarding world may be, if a country the size of America only has one wizarding school thats not a promising population.

magically remove the goblins' noses

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They can transform most things, but a few things can't be changed, gold being one of them.

Who the fuck knows why, but it's not like it's a new thing for fantasy to have certain metals have mystical properties, like silver fucking up werewolves, or iron messing with demons.

Next step: Holdo maneuver

You can instantly kill people but cant turn a pile of shit into gold?

>We only know of 2 other wizarding schools, and they aren't co-ed.
That was just a weird change for the movies, there are definitely Beauxbatons boys and Durmstrang girls, they didn't get named but there were examples of both in the book

>All you need is some faggot transmuting rocks into solid gold to crash the economy.
In the history of the Wizarding world there was literally only one faggot that had the power to create gold, and he used it for immortality instead of transmuting gold.

This is literally canon, read the fucking books.

I fucking loathe Harry Potter lore. It's all poorly thought out trash. They haven't progressed in years thanks to the crutch that is magic. If it suddenly went away, they'd be fucked manchildren, the lot of them. They can't even deal with ONE black magic super villain. Also having a racial slur for 90 percent of the planet? Fuck you, you wand waving dicks. Muggle? At least we invented shit. Fuckers can't even use a microwave, and think it's okay to have the bludgeoning tree on the front lawn of the school that teaches fireballs instead of basic math. Also build a fence around the goddamn dark forest, you morons. How the fuck does their economy/job system even work if everyone can just do the same spells that basically does all the work? How about learning a real trade that requires actual skill. Wizards/Witches are true 1%-ers born the luckiest assholes on the planet. Lets see the pussies afraid to say "Voldemort" have to say when we solve the dark lord problem with a fucking missile. Yeah he was supposed to be nigh immortal, but he'll want to be dead after being reduced to a red stain on the ground.

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Gold can be transmuted, but it requires a Philosipher's Stone which is hard as fuck to make and only one was ever known in existence (and later destroyed)

Who the fuck are you GRRM? None of that shit matters at all. Beyond that, you literally saw the wizard world through a teenagers eyes, what the fuck would he know about economics and job security in the wizarding world?

>written by a woman hurr

At least that woman had the sense to not meander on about tax policy and got right to the magic shit.

Apparently muggles happen to value the same metal and use it as currency despite not knowing that it has these fantastical magic properties that wizards are actually aware of use it for.

YOU'RE BEING ANTI-SEMITIC.

Not that guy you're replying to, and I'm not defending Harry Potter but...

Aurors were looked up to because they were the FBI/SWAT of the wizarding world. Badass evil wizard hunters that had the balls to fight against Voldemort. Charlie was in Romania having sex with Dragons. Awesome, right? Percy was in the ministry but nobody gave a fuck about him because he was an uptight faggot. Also there are plenty of minstry fags that are totally useless: umbridge, fudge. Ministry just has many of the most prestigious jobs. Being olivander or a shopkeeper is alright.

Your logic is stupid and gay even though the subject matter we're talking about is childish. In a world were Voldemort is an OP duelist that kills anyone he wants and everyone is terrified of even saying his name, wanting to join the aurors is noble and badass. Lupin, Tonks, Moody, Weasly Sr., Sirius, Dumbledore, were all the realest niggers in the books. Also since Harry's parents died its a good motivation to be one.

They don't have a spell that just removes the germs from stuff. They have a spell that makes the sponge and soap do it by itself. Wizards have no scientific knowlege so they don't really understand how the world works. It balances their OP use of magic. Ron's dad got erections from simple muggle tech because he realized wizards don't know a fucking thing about electricity even.

Oh yeah.

Which kind of doesn't make sense that those are so fucking hard to make, but time travel devices are easy enough, since they had a whole bunch of them in the Ministry.

>She has no fucking idea about the series and all of her ideas seem really bizarre afterthoughts that you would make if you were given a story rather than if you wrote the story originally.
exactly how I feel on the matter

>wizard cant just magic up things out of thin air
Sure you can, it's called conjuring and there's loads of examples of people conjuring things in the books; fire, rope, a snake, wine, birds, water, chairs, a goblet.

>harry potter was written by a woman
This was enough explication.

> "Creating matter from nowhere"
But you can't make food, remember.

> At least that woman had the sense to not meander on about tax policy
Nah she focused on genderfluid acceptance instead

>actually recommending MoR
I bet you think autism is a superpower

Is it ever said they're pulling them out of nowhere, though, or just implied they use he summon spell? I can't remember, been a while since I read the books.

Also, they could just be temporary things, like how the leprechaun gold vanishes after a few hours.

>T GRRM

Who gives a fuck what humans thought? That wasn't the story being told. Your entire complaint amounts to "why didn't Snyder direct this book? It would have been realistic K I N O.

Find a quote from the book, you mong. You just want to be offended for no reason. As children's fantasy, Harry Potter is fine. Same with Game of Thrones.

i wonder if there are some wizard winos just sucking their wand dry of wine every hour of the day.

Everything was pulled from somewhere else, nothing was created outright. Hence "summoning", as in "summoned from elsewhere."

They just pop into existence at the end of your wand or where you point it, when you summon something it flies towards you from wherever it previously was and can take some time depending on distance

Yeah, that's what I thought.

So I suppose she was consistent with that.

wizards literally have fucking infinitly renewable energy by moving shit with their wands they should have financially enslaved all muggles millennia ago using their magic to generate untold riches and should be in interstellar space fighting fucking aliens or something but they are instead living in some kind of fucked up medieval gothic society that keep elf slaves and mandatory animal companions or something

The author of the entire series literally adds on to her universe on a daily basis toward how progressive her world is.

No its not, you faggot. I give a fuck about humans because they are a fundamental aspect of the fiction because its wizards living in secret in THEIR world. If the lore has hand wave resolutions or pretends simple problems that might occur don't exist, then its shitty writing. Fuck off you delusional Potterfag. College girls think like you. I should know because I had to take literary classes with stupid Potterfags

>then its shitty writing
the fuck you expect from a children's book? Jesus christ this website.

Outright summon spells were higher level, essentially apparition on an object. The accio spell was like the newfag 5th year version.

No. The summoning charm is Accio and works like this:

youtube.com/watch?v=jbMg_R3nql0#t=1m33s

Whereas conjuring is instantaneous, like Serpensortia which conjures a snake:

youtube.com/watch?v=QSiynI-fjYE#t=3m45s

Again, find a quote from the book. Lucas released like 15 versions of star wars but it doesn't detract from the original cut. If you allow an artist's personal shit opinions to effect your view of a work they did a decade prior in a different state of mind, you only do yourself a disservice.

> "there has never been a children's book with consistent internal logic"
based retard

Yeah, but is the stuff conjured permanent, or is it just a facsimile which vanishes after a while?

Oh that's retarded and you know it. You're the reason why kids are getting dumber

So what's the deal with Azkaban? You have the dementors feeding off happiness in a prison system, wouldn't they starve in a few weeks? All i could imagine is that a mistrary workers goes through the prison and induces happy memories though magic/potions to keep the dementors fed.

>I HAVE TAKEN LITERARY CLASSES

Then you shouldnt expect a fucking children's book to be on the level of Faulkner. These books are made for single digit children, they don't give a fuck about humans firing edgy missiles at wizards, they want magic and whimsy, something which obviously died off in your heart years ago.

There's nothing in the books that indicates they aren't permanent, but as with all things JK Rowling, she was later asked how the economy works if people can conjure stuff out of thin air and decided that they're temporary. Unlike "Whycomes wizards don't solve world hunger", she wasn't asked until after the books were done so she couldn't put the retcon into the canon.

Conjurations are not permanent, though they could be temporarily physical. More of a magical energy so powerful it could be physical, but of course the synced on tv would look at a magic snake and go "hire he shoot a real snake out of da wand, why not make infinite energy and ignore the story arc?

I never said they were high in literary value, I merely said there are young adults stupid enough to justify shitty story structure. And what difference does it make if it was targeted at children? You actually insult them, and their intelligence by defending this crap. And the "its for children" flew out the fucking window years ago

Artist creates and has the power to change the canon you autist, deal with it.

Star Wars canon is now Greedo shot first, Now This is Podracing, and hyperspace gasoline.

I mean, it's not so bad if it's not shown outright either way, and it does make sense that they'd be temporary.

But in this case, rather than being "show, dont tell" its more "JK Rowling cant think things out cos she's a bad writer".

>God made wizards and God made muggles, but Samuel Colt made them equal
damn

Dementors don't die by normal means, as far as I remember. They don't RELY on happiness, though it makes them stronger.

holy fuck imagine all the space in your brain jammed with useless harry potter terms and lore

I think they just fade away, but can still come back and even multiply. LIke weeds.

>you insult dah children

You not give a fuck about the children. You want a wizard book to be about stupid mundane bull shit like taxes and missiles and electricity. No one would have read the fucking book if it was. Your freshman literature class gives you nothing but an inflated ego, and if you wrote an actual book about wizards it would probably be boring, sour, and overly serious like you. But hey, the sentence structure would impress your college professor!

Stars wars cannon is greedo shot first if you listen to the artist years latter in a different frame of mind. You don't judge an artist's works by their later inclinations in their artistic period.I mean you can, but again you do yourself the disservice of ruining both start wars and Harry potter for yourself because you had to commit to being salty for no particular reason.

They aren't permanently eating the happiness, turning them into anhedonics, Sirius Black managed to recover somewhat from his time there, and the students on the Hogwarts express were fine once the Dementors left. My guess would be that if the prisoners have happiness within their memories then the Dementors absorb it before it gets to their conscious mind, meaning they only get to experience their terrible memories while in their presence and the Dementors can feed indefinitely upon them.

This post literally is arguing for the original cut in which Han shot undoubtedly first.

The artist dictates the official canon whether you like it or not, everything else is fanfiction and headcanon. Rowling (although destroying her work) is establishing the official potterverse canon via her twitter, everything she says is official to the lore.

they don't just feed on happiness, they also sustain themselves by drawing out the guilt and horrible memories of their captors.

Hagrid and Fudge both described it as such.

Bullshit. I just want lore to make sense. Fuck off, faggot. Mundane literally takes the magic/fun out of the fiction, but if simple fucking problem solving is too much for you, then you can't be helped. Fuck me for asking the goddamn school to have a fucking fence around the death forest. But hey the wizard community doesn't give a fuck, they're all irresponsible morons anyway who apparently don't respect common decency thanks to Azkaban. Oh yeah, lets have soul sucking monsters run a prison where murders and a guy who cheated on his taxes go, because fuck any sort of reasonable legal system.

If you think about ANYTHING in Harry Potter for more than two minutes, it falls apart. The damn Lightning Thief series had more sense than this, AND IT WAS A HARRY POTTER RIPOFF

Why are Potterfags so damn stupid?

>Why are Potterfags so damn stupid?
it starts with the source material

Dude, what kind of autist cares about "Canon"?
Just appreciate a work for its artistic endeavor, whether that be in prose or visual fidelity. Fat Lucas can say whatever he wants and make as many changes as be want a to his piece, the original piece and intention is permanently suspended in time the moment he made it. Art is ethereal, once an artist releases it into the world they have NO control over interpretation. That is called having artistic integrity.

And understand this, not everyone reads Twitter. Those that don't have no clue of your supposed "cannon" and as such read the story as it was originally told. And after Twitter dies, people in 100 years will read the story as it was originally told. So what was your salt and stress actually worth? A hernia.

Holy fuck you are retarded. Put a fence around the forest and now there is an extra sentence about them jumping a fence. So you seen it didn't matter in the grand scheme of them entering a forest. This is your problem, whereas Rowling had the common sense to avoid insanity and maintain brevity, you would literally waste time talking about a fence around a forest with fucking unicorns and giant spiders in it.

B R A V O

>Auschwitz Alley!

> Dude, what kind of autist cares about "Canon"?
this entire fucking thread and this whole Taiwanese cartoon image forum does.

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Why would the death eaters use AK's you retard lmao, they have like spells and shit haha

Oh is one sentence too complicated and much for you, champ? "There's a magic wall surrounding the forest, but it's only meant to keep things THEM in." There. fucking done. Rowling doesnt have any sense because she pissed away any credibility she had by retconning characters gay or whatever for the sake of brownie points which added nothing to the work

>ITT a seething Potterfag tries to defend a shit childrens book for being poorly constructed
So can we just call him a stupid manchild?

Exactly. I called you out, autist. You supposed autuers allow yourself to get so wrapped up in the generally shit opinions of artists that you actually retroactively ruin pieces for yourself. Once Lucas dies the Library of Congress cut will be the official cut, and what will all this stress and anger have been for? When Rowling dies, no one will visit Twitter, and what will all your complaints about her tweets have amounted to when school kids read the same Harry Potter you did?

It's an endless circle jerk of infantilized "intellectuals", arguing abut shit like fences and tweets and thinking they could actually write a more human piece because they would discuss how missiles effect the wizarding world. They don't understand at all WHY these pieces are successful or universal to the human experience. An entire board of psueds.

Except with you, this would have to be done every time anything magic is brought up.

"The magic forest had a fence"
"Voldymort blocked the missile"
"Harry invested his money in a mutual fund at gringotts"
"Fred weasley put out orders for 5 pounds of sugar for his candy shop"
"Dumbledore wiped his ass before pulling his pants up"

>Exactly. I called you out, autist
You're stuck here with all of us friendo

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>rowling had common sense
Come on let's keep this retarded internet argument within the realm of plausibility here

You don't even need the missile shit. Like every other fucking fiction you say "mortal weapons don't work". But that's hardly an issue given they already established how hard it was to kill Voldemort. But you literally can't defend simple shit like the zero safety measures taken to keep stupid kids out of the death forest, or how wizards are so shit at keeping their world secret.

It's called whimsy, and maybe if you had some people would actually like you. You actually don't see how your argument is a non point in the grand scheme of art. You are a Martin, and how insane that in this moment Rowling is your Tolkien. How could she be anyone's Tolkien?

What she wrote had universal appeal because it spoke to something true in humanity. She had the good sense to not muck up a whimsical young adult tale of magic with other shit like banking or militaries.

What's the etiquette of warping? Imagine you're chilling on the couch, anime on the laptop, porn on the tv, jerking off and suddenly Hermione warps in. How did they avoid situations like these?

More like, how do we perpetuate situations like this?

Go on twitter and ask JK. I'm sure she'll tell you all about how Dumbledore likes it in the butthole and how that makes the economy in Harry Potter work.

It's called shit writing you apologist, and Id hardly call HP art. I can appreciate wonder and magic, because even basic shit like Aladdin had logic behind it. Rowling chose to make a complicated wizard world, and failed

Here's a better question: how are we supposed to believe that American wizards didn't create magic guns?

>reminder
>a person with a gun could take even the most powerful wizard.
Correct, which is why Wizards stay hidden in the first place. A SWAT team could easily take on anyone at Hogwarts, but send them into the school and they'd likely end up in their homes with with no memory of the event and wondering what the hell happened last night.

>if voldemort won in the end and went on to wage war against muggles he would have died in less than 24 hours
Also doubtful. The Ministry had the UK Prime Minister in its pocket, so it's reasonable to assume that wizards were in control of other world powers as well. It wouldn't be a war, it'd be a slow assimilation leading up to a reveal once the muggle population had been properly groomed and prepared, like an alien invasion.

Of course, that's assuming that anyone in the Wizarding World has a brain, which they don't.

>do you bostards have a loicense to talk rubbish about my books?

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what the fuck is that actually her?