These planets are really, really, really close together

if those shotgun pellets all hit different people, i'd question it

>laser beam splits towards the end of course
>shotgun shooting pellets in all directions

JJ has an issue with that.

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they were always in a cone, it just dispersed with distance.
youtube.com/watch?v=-HmWDdmTAE8

All the planets have anti gravity devices at their cores so they don't affect each other. How about you have sex, incels?

I mean, Vulcan was destroyed by magic red goo that forms a black hole. Maybe that goo has other fucky effects on gravity and space that would show the destruction from long distances.

Stranger things have happened on Trek.

I thought they were on Vulcan's moon in that scene.

Reminder that the random walrus looking alien to the left who appeared for a split second before being blown up was the Chancellor of the new republic and the most important person in the galaxy or at least should have been if the movies were created by someone at least half competent.

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Kirk is ejected onto that planet AFTER they warped away from Vulcan.

lmao zoom in on this guys face he looks high af

vulcan has no moon

>mfw

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>starkiller base has atmosphere but it's smaller than our moon
>needs to absorb a full star to shoot twice
>can't shoot more cause it cant move so no way to absorb another star
>you can bypass the shield at lightspeed so you could have destroyed with the Holdo manuever
>it destroys a system across the galaxy
>the beam divides
>the whole republic fleet was there
>the explosion can be seen from all parts of the galaxy
>when it explodes a new star is created with the same size of the starkiller base wich is smaller than our moon
Jar Jar Abrahams is fucking retarded

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Goddamn the sound is so weak. Are these some general factory effects in the program they use at Disney?

Ever watched the wandering earth? They just put boosters on their capital planets and moved them to the same system. It saves a lot of time traveling from home to the senate chambers every morning and greatly reduces the logistics behind interworld trade.

distance? it was across the galaxy, they divided right at the perfect moment while they went together thousands of light years lmao

just because i know someone will respond with it:

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we saw the death star move in a new hopew we never saw starkiller base moving or having engines, therefore it can't move

>put random negress upfront

>can't shoot more cause it cant move so no way to absorb another star
>it can't move
wait what

>dude turn your brain off lol

thanks for repeating the point

why did you repeat the point

*weak

At no point does the movie show, hint, describe, or imply that the thing can move

Thats too little planets for a galactic scale civilization, you are literally fit thousands of planets in the red circle in pic related.

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Have you seen the explosion of Alderaan in Episode 4?

You have plenty of time to care in a week.

this was the EU galaxy that Disney axed

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that map probably only includes the somewhat important planets

protip: maps don't always show every bumfuck location

That map is obviously incomplete, it doesn't even show Alderaan on it.

>sound in space
>spaceships with wings that fly like jet fighters
>3 foot laser beams
>I CAN MAKE ROCKS FLOAT WITH MY MIND

YEAHHH, THOSE PLANETS BEING REALLY CLOSE TOGETHER TOTALLY RUINED 40 YEARS OF HARD SCIENCE FICTION IN THE STAR WARS UNIVERSE

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but wot are the odds of finding life?

we see it shoot once and trying to shoot another, by the second charge they have absorved a star meaning they need half a star to shoot once but we don't see it moving so how would it shoot again without a star to absorb and no way of moving?

>being this dumb

The Last Jedi is the better of the NuWars movies specifically for this reason. Suiciding into a capital ship with another capital ship at near lightspeed is fat more feasible than whatever voodoo is going on with Planet Laser there.

Ok the spaceships with wings make sense because they are built to fly in atmosphere

>sound in space
...is a things
>spaceships with wings that fly like jet fighters
is for interplanetary flight
>3 foot laser beams
...is something we can do that now
>I CAN MAKE ROCKS FLOAT WITH MY MIND
...3/4, i win

the concept art

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how did we go from this
to fucking this?

women

Just imagine what's really out there

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Who was in the wrong, here?

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Space in Star Wars is not a vacuum. It has an atmosphere of it's own

>what are moons

The Jedi Order. The Force willed them to die.

They specifically said that it wasn't Hosnian Prime's moons that were blown up, it was the whole system.

I hate it when movies get all this shit wrong.
What especially annoys me is when the orbital mechanics are not realistic.
I played a lot of KSP.

>Just imagine what's really out there
All right, you got me. It's me.

lol physics amirite

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But everything has anti-gravity tech in SW

What emotion is this face trying to express?

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Is this John William's best work?
youtube.com/watch?v=BMkQh7kMZro

>b-but it's all magic and shit when I deem it convenient

>New Republic core solar system destroyed
>completely gone without question
>First Order 'home' planet Starkiller destroyed
>single fleet rules the galaxy without contest
I don't know why I bother with it anymore.

And there's a long standing tradition of explosions in celestial bodies showing instantly in the movies, since Generations.

The importance of her character was placed entirely in a deleted scene.

>he thinks that Star Wars is anything besides space magic: the series

This was reality in television, humans must always come first.

Who was she, then?

>doesn't even have a pressurized cabin for the pilot
>but apparently has room for airspeeder-tier repulsorlifts

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Isn't Coruscant the home planet of humanity in SW?

Someone Leia sent to warn the Republic of the First Order.

how come these kind of maps dont depict the galaxy in 3d? Planets that look close together on this map could actually be really far apart on the z axis

making verse accessible for normies and morons

good b8

see

So she was supposed to get there at the exact moment when they all got blown up?

>literal apocalyptic event, like multiple first world countries being completely wiped out
>HEY YOU CAN NO PARK ON CASINO BEACH VERY IMPORTANT PARTY TONIGHT I CALL POLICE
my sides how do they get away with this nonsense

>billions of people wiped out
>resistance doesn't care
>resistance gets wiped out
>galaxy doesn't care

pottery

No fucking clue desu, only saw a brief snippet of the deleted scene in a review recently released. Only saw TFA once, thought it was acceptable, not a disaster, nor a second-coming. Have no intention of watching TLJ.

How does Yea Forums feel about this scene?
youtube.com/watch?v=Lf0qZLK8l-Y

You should.

I'm not sure I want to.

Why not just park the car in the garage like some regular normalfags looking to blow their paychecks?

it was the worst lightsaber fight scene when it came out

I'm more upset that Starkiller Base is the most retardedly juvenile name imaginable, but I suppose it's appropriate considering most things in star wars have buttfuckingly retarded names

Wrong simply because Rey's fight with Kylo Ren appeared directly after it.

To be fair Ren was hindered by wanting the hole.

Planets can be close together but it would mean the solar system is very young since there were once over 100 protoplanets in our solar system yet our rock somehow survived amazing isnt it?

>forgetting about Elan Sleazebaggano
starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Elan_Sleazebaggano

that's not how planets and system form in the real world

>empire destroys heart of the resistance
>millions die
>nobody gives a shit 30 minutes later
The state of old Star Wars writing...

really, it's insane that the prequel trilogy got past pre-production. how did nobody see shit like this and abandon ship?

Yes that is, planets are nothing more than masses formed in the nebula over a long length of time.

ayylmaooo

>The Resistance
Wait, I thought they were called the Rebellion?

Ben, tell me more about him

>have a fun naming joke in a movie where a characters name is never mentioned a single time
>OMG LUCAS HAHA WHAT ARE YOU THINKING
autists ruined starwars

No, you see after the Empire was defeated all of the Imperial Remnants fled into the unmapped regions of the Outer Rim, known as the Unknown Regions. The New Republic, which was set up in the wake of the Empire's fall, decided to completely disband their military because they thought that this retreat meant that the Empire would never rise again. The NR then more or less left the Outer Rim worlds to fend for themselves while they paid exclusive attention to the Core worlds and in the meantime the Imperial Remnants did the extremely obvious thing (conquering large swathes of the Outer Rim). This re-conquering and re-branding went under the new name of the First Order. Of course, the New Republic leadership continued to aggressively not give a single fuck about the Empire LITERALLY knocking on their doorstep and refused to arm themselves or send out their fleet to crush the fledgling nu-Imperial fleet. The non-brainlets within the NR government (Leia and such) tried to make their colleagues see reason but they failed and so they had to quit the government and stat up a grassroots non-sanctioned nu-Rebellion (the Resistance) to do what the actual government stubbornly refused to do.

These are moons, there's no way big ass planets can form this close together.

Star Wars is for girls now and they don't even know how space works.

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What in the unholy shit?

>beam would have the be moving many thousands or millions of times the speed of light to get across the galaxy in a few seconds
>moving so slowly you can see it moving by looking out the window

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None of this is even possible fictitiously.

The canon explanation is that it ripped a hole through hyperspace and traveled through it, and the instability of the rip caused it to be visible to all points in the galaxy at the same time.

why do people let that hack direct scifi movies?
he obviously has zero respect for even the basic most features of a space setting

>it destroys a system across the galaxy

Seriously how the fuck do you even aim something like that? The base can't move itself, it's targets are orbiting stars at half the speed of light, they're hundreds of light years away, and it hits more than one at the same time. Even if those beams entered hyperspace (they didn't because the OT already established what entering and exiting hyperspace looks like) how would they exit at the proper point?

JJ should've been fired the second he suggested another death star.

>NuWars
>Quality

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not even, if moons are this close to eachother their orbits would destabilize quickly catapulting them out of orbit or causing them to head close enough to the planet they cross the roche limit

>how would they exit at the proper point?
learn to code

It's true though

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Why didn't they just force choke them to death?

It's a antifa allegory, oh woe is me the powers that be don't believe the evil nazis are back again so we have to handle it ourselves

not to mention that the base has the power to absorb an entire god damn star and somehow still needs a weapon system on top of that
why not have the base absorb a star, use that energy to fuel it's hyperdrive, jump to the system they want to destroy and then proceed to absorb their star?

would have made for a unique and interesting superweapon and allowed for multiple encounters with the base as it engaged in it's path of destruction across the galaxy (as the star-fueled hyperdrive would be way faster than usual due to being powered by a god damn star)

>"IT'S THE REPUBLIC XDDDD"
>it was one system, nowhere near the core worlds or any other region of the galaxy previously seen in earlier films

Literally STRUTTED the fuck out of the theater with my dick hanging out and peeing

But I thought that Yea Forums hated Mara Jade.

if that's true that why do we see explosive decompression happen a lot?

galaxies are flat and some of them very very flat

>Oh no they destroyed Coruscant!!!

>wait no it's some other random fucking system nobody heard about before

>none of this is ever clarified in the movies

No really, what the fuck is nu-Wars' plan regarding Finn?
>put him in all of the advertisements and merch for TFA
>make him basically irrelevant outside of a few token scenes
>mostly a joke character
>introduce him as an ex-soldier who knows how to fight and shit without the force
>"nope I'm a janitor lol"
>put him in all the merch and ads for TLJ
>is turned into the useless comic relief character
>does basically nothing the whole film
>his one instance of growth and sacrifice is stolen
No really, what did they mean by this? I thought he was meant to round out the force user-pilot-operator trio of the main cast but he's a literal joke. What were they thinking?

Fuck you. Little easter egg jokes like this were what made Star Wars good. And it's not like they ever said his name out loud.

the Milky Way is 1000 light years thick
that's still an enormous distance

>As Starkiller Base was charged through the power of stars, it gradually blocked out sunlight until, running at full capacity, it extinguished it completely, leaving the surface in darkness. In order for the weapon to fire, its weapons engineers would induce a breach in the containment field, allowing the collected dark energy to escape the core through the hollow cylindrical opening on the antipodes of the planet relative to the stellar collector. During this process, the dark energy transformed to a state known as "phantom energy", and left the planet behind, tearing a hole through hyperspace along a perfectly linear path. The people stationed at the Base called the dimension through which the phantom energy beam traveled "sub-hyperspace", and this method of delivering the payload was near-instantaneous across vast distances. The rotation and inclination of the planet had to be taken into account for the weapon to target something, and also the lack of obstacles between it and the target, as the phantom energy beam would only be intercepted by an object of sufficient mass (like a planet). When the phantom energy struck a planet, the interaction produced enough heat to ignite the planet's core, creating a pocket nova. The space-time disruption caused by the phantom energy's passage would make the nova instantaneously visible thousands of light years away, for a short time.

It's literally this

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_gun?wprov=sfla1

In the first 2 minutes of like the first Star Trek episode, Spock says "Vulcan has no moons". But who cares! Fuck Star Trek amirite

>the new republic is introduced mere seconds before its destroyed
>literally no one cares beyond Finn throwing a throwaway line

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The time span of these movies is a really interesting point that nobody ever takes into consideration.

It's especially weird in the first one, where they start talking about Rey viewing Han as a father figure or some shit. They knew each other for three fucking days. Then she's hugging Leia, as though she had a comparably deep connection with him

There are actually people out there that think this is good lore

>Because it was to save trillions

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>Directive 2: protect the throne room floor from vandalism

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>Han is dead
>Leia turns to hug Rey
>not Chewie
was it racism?

I’m this guy and I think that the explanation for JJ’s fuck ups is absolutely ridiculous.

That's actually okay because of his immense force power, he can predict where redder is going to swing and can block it in advance

So let me get this straight...

After the OT the rebels/new republic clashed with the remnants of the Empire. New Republic won.
Some of the Empire remnants went to a faraway part of the galaxy and held out there. This is the First Order.
The New Republic in the meantime decided to get rid of ALL their ships, troops and weapons.
Then Snoke, who appeared out of the blue, financed the First Order with his infinite bag of gold because he has some sort of casino world or something (unclear on this) and they built up more ships and weapons then the Empire ever had originally. The New Republic did not pick up on this and did nothing.
Snoke uses the Starkiller base to oneshot the New Republic's capital system (not Coruscant) and destroys it.
The New Republic does nothing to this. Does not mobilize, does not use some kind of reserves, does not pool resources, nothing.
Snoke then decides to hunt down the "Resistance" which is like 5 ships and 10 fighters total with his entire fleet and LOSES.

I mean who the fuck writes this shit and thinks it's passable.

Finn is pretty much a random guy just along for the ride

Holy shit that's... so bad. I can't even keep up with insane shit logic.

that would be an interesting character trait, if she actually had some kind of lingering racism towards inhuman species

>have you seen a special effect made 40 years ago
Retard.

Starkiller Base is the dumbest sci-fi superweapon of all time.

It devours an entire star to power it. An entire star. Do you realize the sheer energy involved. The human brain cannot even fathom it.

And then after devouring an entire star it uses that energy to destroy 4 planets. Four. Only four. With the power of an entire star. What. Did the writers not realize you could probably destroy a thousand Earth size planets with the power of a star at your disposal?

Also, how do the blasts of energy even work? They must be traveling at hyperspeed or else it would take them hundreds or thousands of years to reach their targets. But, we see that they are not traveling hyperspeed. So Starkiller Base and every single one of the planets destroyed must have been in the same solar system - and not far away from eachother either. But they weren't. They're all supposed to be super far away.

It's just all. So. Retarded. Fucking. God. Damn. It's like a 5 year old wrote this shit. I mean, Star Wars has always taken some liberties but jesus.

Bruh, lobster guard went for the sword instead of his head AFTER he stabbed the ground.

>JJ should've been fired the second he suggested another death star.
You don't understand, they were doing a remake of ANH for modern audiences.

not to mention it stores the mass of an entire star in a point smaller than a planet
that means it's creating some kind of degenerate matter star-remnant, which usually requires the force of a supernova, an even so unbelievably powerful we can see it happening from billions of lightyears away

heck one of the common things said about a supernova is to take what you imagine they are like, then multiply it by a million

The sound design and the score were massive red flags to this lame ass trilogy. We’re never getting cool shit like the seismic charge, jangos blasters, or grievous’ saber slicing ever again

But lightsabers don't work like that. Hell the logic doesn't even hold up.

If he can stab a lightsaber into the floor with enough force, why can't a lightsaber with enough force knock out of where he stabbed it.

It's like he cuts into the floor like butter and the other guy when he hits the blade into it all the sudden the floor is hold the blade like the floor is made out of concrete

It's even worse.

>the only instance of a stormtrooper breaking conditioning and switching sides
>tags along with the good guys
>nobody debriefs him or asks him any questions about the FO
>literally a day later it turns out there's a mole in the Resistance and their position is getting transmitted to the FO
>NOBODY suspects this guy, nobody even watches him or checks up on him, nothing
>he is allowed to slip out of the fleet on a small vessel on a "secret" mission and nobody picks up on this or questions it
>he basically fails at that mission and brings back a traitor that fucks over the Resistance fleet
>still no repercussions of any kind

Why is it necessary to harness so much energy to shoot a long beam to instantly destroy a planet instead of a short pulse beam. It looks like the beam will just keep going after the planet blows up. That’s so wasteful.

Have you seen the battle of Coruscant punkass stoolie?

They should have made it that some of the head admirals of the New Republic defected to the First Order. It would explain why they have far more ships than is reasonable and why no one can really respond to their power.
It also kind of makes sense in their weird fascism vs democracy political theme, too.

Also, does anyone else feel like they just made up the Resistance, because the good guys always have to be the rebels? Even though the FO are clearly the rebelling force in this case

>The New Republic in the meantime decided to get rid of ALL their ships, troops and weapons.
No it's that they had a fleet in reserve but they refused to deploy it and kept it hanging in orbit around their not-Coruscant, which then got blown to bits along with everything else, so the FO had uncontested access to the whole galaxy after oneshotting the capital.

So why not just rebuild Death Star 2. I honestly would have been fine with that. If it was fully complete death star two would have been fine, star killer got nuked by 9 x wings

His weapon actually went through Kylo’s lightsaber.

because what he did was still several orders of magnitude less stupid than what the high command was doing

user, I have some news for you

that's still the equivalent of the Roman empire keeping only a single legion, then stationing it at Rome

don't forget he lied to the Resistance about where the weakness was on starkiller and nearly wiped out their entire airforce by doing so.

Devouring a star is a far better weapon than a fucking lazer anyhow.

You could just eat the star at the center of a major solar system and all life on the surrounding planets would perish.

>Also, how do the blasts of energy even work? They must be traveling at hyperspeed or else it would take them hundreds or thousands of years to reach their targets. But, we see that they are not traveling hyperspeed. So Starkiller Base and every single one of the planets destroyed must have been in the same solar system - and not far away from eachother either. But they weren't. They're all supposed to be super far away.

Oh god, I never even considered that.

Also I remember hearing that our sun alone produces more energy than the entire human race can put to use, even if we started to colonize every planet in our system and turn every squaremile into a first-world high-tech industry metropolis.

Yes, it is

The entire thing does not make any sense because two movies in and we haven't even gotten the basics of what the New Republic is doing.
There are no representatives of it so we can hear from the character's mouth what the NR is doing. No exposition given.

The entire "good" part of the galaxy apparently got rid of their capital ships and the FO can just randomy cruise around unopposed. The only challenge to it are like 30 year old X-Wings.

Hey that's a cool idea, fuck you

>devours a star
Wait a second where the hell does it store all of that mass and how does it not collapse from all of that COMPRESSED MASS either? compressing the sun to the size of everest would turn it into a black hole just so you know.

The Star Wars galaxy is full of millions of planets and hundreds of thousands of ships.

You are telling me the ruling body of the galaxy had every single ship around 5 planets?

This is what happens when you place people who are naturally destructive (leftists) into positions of creativity.

>literally a day later it turns out there's a mole in the Resistance and their position is getting transmitted to the FO
I'm pretty sure that the novelization of TLJ includes suspicion of Finn being a traitor as the reason why Holdo kept tight-lipped about her plan, but that didn't make it into the film for reasons I don't understand.

Imagine all the waste potential of what the new trilogy could have been.
Imagine at least having a good Darth Vader movie (won't happen or they will cuck him somehow).
Imnagine no shit in SW, imagine a really good movie (yeah put all the multicultural cast you want so you don't hear people cry, they are going to do it anyway... but take out interratial romance, feminism and other crap from it)
youtube.com/watch?v=PN_CP4SuoTU

They didn't that many to start with, disarmament remember?

They shouldn't have placed them so close together, I think a way cooler way to execute this scene and "destroy a whole system" would have been if the STAR KILLER base would actually do its name justice and destroy the star aka the center of a fucking star system

Then the scene right after that where the rebels look at the sky and are shocked at the explosion, it should have taken place at night time and the explosion of that star system should have been so over the top bright it would have light up the scene to look almost day time bright

Wut if we just redid the original trilogy, but with a nigger and a woman, and just one up’d everything!

Don't forget to mention that the Resistance main force was only 200-300 people before the end of TLJ.

Then why did the Hoth Invasion fleet not send down the Star Destroyers?

WHITE PEOPLE GOOD
DIVERSITY BAD

I'm pretty sure the NR is meant to be irrelevant.
It's just a nice way of wrapping up the OT, without making it feel like the then heroes' struggle was in vain. But an overwhelming galactic entity that just demolishes the opposition in a single battle wouldn't have that Star Wars "feel", I guess.

They need the Resistance to be the rebellious movement that wins out against the superior enemy, even though the NR could logically flatten everyone.

>I have never watch ESB: the post
the rebels had an anti-aircraft gun that would have shot them down

Incompetence

just turn your brain off bro

cant wait for episode 9 with a new darker sith lord and and a solar system death star, oh and rey will turn kylo just before he dies, gonna be epic

you can buy merchandise on the official disney website by the way :)

I remember once again. You have millions upon millions of planets. The republic would need some sort of force of a couple thousand ships to police that. I'm talking maybe 1 small capital ship for 10 billion people and that's still over 10,000 ships.

Not only that that the first order is a couple hundred thousand guys, how are they going to control a galaxy full of trillions of life forms.

>SKB is destroyed by the Resistance
>like a million FO employees are killed
>Like 72 hours pass
>The FO has now conquered the entire galaxy

>End of TLJ
>FO loses their entire fleet and two supermassive star destroyers and several million employees as well as the supreme leader
>Resistance is destroyed for all intents and purposes and now the FO has uncontested control over the whole galaxy

like, how?

It’s how liberalists think about themselves, they are always rebels or revolutionists fighting against some form of oppressor

One supposed itd be like going to Monocco on holiday after North + South America, Europe, Asia were all vaporised

>the feminist droid
These people fundamentally misunderstand AI and why it's both interesting and scary

Serious question would a nanoengineered mirror array system used to turn a star's light into focused planet melting laser beams be better than the Starkiller base? Probably not since light is slow as shit.

so why hasn't some Hutt cartel taking over most of the galaxy already?
I mean the god damn Trade Federation of the PM could have won a war against them
how in gods name did the new republic last for more than a month?

>galaxies are flat
they have a "plane" but they are far from being completely flat

How fucking convenient

Take it up with JJ my man

have sex incel and turn off your brain

Earth is a flat disc

That is the conclusion the image appears to lead to yeah. When you focus on diversity instead of just making good things this is what you get.

>Kinooine
lmao

>based georgie was merely pretending
Prequelfags are the lowest lifeform

Why did you leave out the male members of the Story Group?

You're not lying in order to push your narrative... are you?

even if they were moons, they're too close together

The movie is almost prophetic in that way
The "rebels" are clearly the mainstream and in control of everything, yet are desperate to not be seen that way.

that's so completely and mindbogglingly stupid
You don't even need someone with military experience
ASK ANY GOD DAMN GAMER WHO PLAYED A TOTAL WAR GAME WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU TRY THIS

seriously that's how utterly and completely obvious this shit it

Now I really wonder how it would feel on the moon when it's planet was destroyed.

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Apparently none of these planets were in the same system. Worse, the Starkiller Base was on the other side of the galaxy.
All of this happened because JJ wanted a "cool" scene.

The woman impersonating the droid identifies herself as a Swiss army knife and they transferred that fact to the droid in the movie, basically the only reason why she got the job,

so how are they going to ruin Star Wars in 9

My bet is artificial force
Leia gets mortally wounded during act 1 and in her dying moments she spreads her force sensitivity among all remaining resistance members leaving it to Rey to train them into the new Jedi Order

They were all new planets, though, and they're positions are never mentioned in the movies. There's literally no reason to say they're so far apart.

Why didn't they have Leia do the hyperspace ramming? Using the Force to do asspull a way into making that work would have been a kino death scene.

>NJO
shit
>YJK
shit
>Outbound Flight
meh
>Sacrifice
worst book in the EU.

If you're going to larp as a Star Wars fan, at least put some effort into it you dumb /pol/yp.

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>they use their Star Killer base to get a quadra kill
>then the ticking clock element after is the Star Killer base will fire again to destroy the other planet

New planets are hostile and uninhabitable.

>Apparently none of these planets were in the same system.
But that's wrong

>heart of the resistance
It was just Leia's home planet you retard, had nothing to do with the resistance

Probably nothing at first, but the moon would be zooming off far away. The climate and everything would change quickly, depending on where you end up. You could be launched far away from the sun and everyone would just die

You fundamentally misunderstand the role of droids in SW lore.

Did you get lost on your way to /stg/?

Why do chunks of the planet fly into space? It's getting hit by a blast of energy. It should melt and vaporize the surface, not explode.

>who is Bail Organa
Go to Wookieepedia and don't discuss lore again until you've spent a considerable amount of time there

>invent station that DEVOURS A SUN
>but the epic part is that it shoots a big laser and kills planets

I feel like it'd be more dramatic to have a giant station that devours solar systems suns and kills all life in that system nearly instantly with no heat or light but I guess big lasers are pretty epic

how do you think pilots go to the bathroom haha wouldn't it be stinky if it filled the cockpit space ewww haha

Energy has mass and thus kinetic energy.

Galaxies are some of the flattest objects in existence, if you blew up a piece of paper to the size of a galaxy it would be thicker.

This is a franchise where 3 million clones were enough to fight a full-scale galactic war on every major planet

Pretty sure the races are star wars are advanced enough to survive without a star otherwise they wasted tens of thousands of years.

best part is that this is so obvious another user came up with the exact same idea in this thread

>>nobody gives a shit 30 minutes later
pretty sure they spend the next two movies at war with the empire

Yup, people live on the dark side of Ryloth.

Most planets aren't really inhabited and just have a few farms or a mining outpost on them and nothing else.

the galactic core is a notable oval

Don't pin this on Lucas, his name was Elan Sel'Sabagno in the old canon. Disney changed his name to Sleazebaggano.

starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Elan_Sel'Sabagno

They didn't go to war with the Empire over Alderaan's destruction.

so what?
the fact remains that galaxies are thick enough that there's a chance for multiplesystems to exist within the same z-axis, thus requiring maps that show it in 3d

play space engine my dude

We've (and the movie) already established it wasn't a moon. stop getting mad at nothing

This is plain wrong you narrative pushing faggot. Or are you too wrong to have been on wookieepedia pre-2012?

Force Time Travel

*too young

Nobody had the means to go to war with the Empire, that was the whole point
They had a standing military that could obliterate any upstart in a straight battle, which is why they could get away with creating the Death Star
it's a physical representation of their might

Is there a chance, sure. Is there a chance that a limited map that is only highlighting a handful of relevant systems scattered across the galaxy will have systems layered on top of each other? Very unlikely.

>how do we make the audience care about these planets exploding???
>I got it, show a closeup of a concerned muttette
>perfect

is there even a single setting that introduced time travel as a later element and didn't completely fuck up everything as a result?

>ystems layered on top of each other? Very unlikely.
perhaps, but the closer to the core one gets, the greater this chance becomes

>hey should any of characters even mention this happening?
>nah
>what about in the sequel?
>nah
>wait what was the point of blowing up 4 planets anyway?
>uh

BIG
PRETTY
LASER

USA alone had 16 million enlisted men in WWII

3 million clones is pathetically small. At least in the sequel trilogy the less than 1000 strong Resistance is specifically said to be a small private army fighting an insurgent war

Lazy writing

Conveniently the deep core in the Star Wars galaxy isn't densely inhabited, it is basically a dangerous no-go zone for hyperdrive travel.

>Vader's force ghost makes an appearance to try talking Ben out of his bullshit
would it be kino?

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How long does Leia grieve for Alderaan in ANH?

Fuck no. Why would he wait all this time?

interesting
any in-universe reason why so much of the galaxy is unexplored?

It was 3 million "units", not three million individual soldiers. Only a single author was retarded enough to try implying that there were actually only 3 million clones in the Republic Army during the Clone Wars.

Its actually stems from jealousy believe it or not. Leia looks at Chewie as her rival

Before Leia came aboard Han and Chewie had a very intense sexual relationship. Kind of a "prison gay" situation. Then when Leia shows up Han doesnt have to fuck the walking mop anymore, but Chewie still harbors feelings. Leia recognizes that and is jealous

space big

>Not only that that the first order is a couple hundred thousand guys
Nah the crew of the Supremacy flag ship is about a million. Yes its retarded

that's not good enough. they've charted a good portion of the galaxy already, what's stopping them from going west?
I guess it depends on how long it took to chart all that's already been charted

Hey, that's less dumb than hyperspace ramming.

The sequel almost totally ignores what happens in TFA to a comical extent

>nobody mentions the Star Killer Base or the affects of losing it. I guess the First Order is that powerful
>telling Kylo Ren that he will complete his training is a total meme, nobody even brings it up in the sequel
>Captain Phasma escapes the exploding Star Killer Base....somehow
>all the cheering and celebrating at the end of TFA made no sense because apparently there was only a couple Rebels left and destroying the Base didn't seem to hurt the First Order at all anyway
>there was a map to Luke Skywalker...but I guess it's never mentioned and he went there to die and to be alone...and left a map to himself because...

The SW galaxy has hyperspace "lanes". Leaving them can be risky and in case of the Deep Space regions, even fatal

>star syatem sizes starkiller base 2.0 destroys 10 galaxies at once in e9

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Forgot Wookieepedia link:

starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Hyperlane

What the fuck does that mean?

To be fair the original Star Wars was made to be a cheesy stupid space movie that nobody thought would succeed. In that context the villains blowing up a whole planet just to slightly irk a princess made more sense. EVEN in that film

>Leia at least commented on it
>Obi-wan commented on it

That is 2 more instances than in TFA (and the sequel that takes place 1 minute after the events of TFA)

>>Captain Phasma escapes the exploding Star Killer Base....somehow
she has to be a clone

>>telling Kylo Ren that he will complete his training is a total meme, nobody even brings it up in the sequel
It's actually even worse than that. Snoke says that killing Rey will do that. But Rian forgot that in TFA Snoke didn't even know she existed until that same scene where he says Kylo will complete his training. What, so Snoke was just waiting around for some plucky young (disgustingly strong) good force user to show up? Makes no fucking sense.

that's what happens when you write two continuity-sequential movies at the same time.

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>blowing up a whole planet just to slightly irk a princess
That wasn't the only reason. It was also to make a statement about the power of the DS, because that was its live fire (after Rogue One, which was just a test).

Read >Hyperlanes were routes through space in which a spaceship could safely travel without colliding with a body in space, or some other phenomenon such as a black hole.[1] There were five major routes in the galaxy, with hundreds of secondary routes and thousands of minor ones. Scouting new hyperspace routes was an incredibly dangerous task for an explorer.

Imagine them being "space highways" and leaving them is the equivalent to driving off-road.

>Scouting new hyperspace routes was an incredibly dangerous task for an explorer.
honestly sounds like a cool job if you don't have a family

The deep core is unexplored because plotting routes there is incredibly difficult and dangerous. That north eastern corner of the galaxy called the Unknown Regions is largely unexplored because it isn't connected at all to the ancient hyperspace routes which run through the rest of the civilized galaxy, and a bunch of gravitational anomalies scattered across the region make plotting reliable routes through them not feasible. Basically you can plot a route into the Unknown Regions, but then you can't use that same route back. It is a roll of the dice if you can get back to where you came from at all.

This is how it was in the Old EU anyway, no idea what Disney's explanation is. They seem keen on reusing lots of stuff from the EU so maybe they pilfered this as well.

americans don't care about orbits, it's all about the frame of the scene! you've gotta have em all in the shot so we know they're all being destroyed at once! humans can barely keep track of how much popcorn they've eaten, editing this would have confused them

Fair enough, it's a bit more than in TFA at least.

Still somewhat campy that Leia watches her home blown to pieces and the next time we see her she's back to being a sassy princess.

It means that trying to phase through an object while in hyperspace has disastrous consequences, so there are a few dedicated hyperspace lanes throughout the galaxy which are so designated because they are guaranteed to not have anything at all laying within them so they're clear long-distance paths from A to B.

she could have been grieving in her cell.
besides, she's a princess, she can't show vulnerability

That black chick a cutie

How can you drive off road in space and why would it be dangerous leaving these lanes if you can simply jump into hyperspace at any point you want?

acceptance

Because Luke not only closed himself off the force, that was a side effect of surpressing Vader from coming back.

>everything counts
>but not this, fuck le mouse xD
Ebin

because you might run into shit without being able to avoid it because you're going faster than light
the "roads" are simply areas where you're guaranteed to not run into things

You might crash into a star, a planet or a comet I guess.

but Anakin shows up at the end of RotJ

>It's actually even worse than that. Snoke says that killing Rey will do that. But Rian forgot that in TFA Snoke didn't even know she existed until that same scene where he says Kylo will complete his training. What, so Snoke was just waiting around for some plucky young (disgustingly strong) good force user to show up? Makes no fucking sense.

Devil's advocate: it has precedent. Yoda told Luke that he needed to complete his training before he faced Vader in TESB. Then in ROTJ, he told Luke that his training was complete and all he needed to do was face Vader again. Stupid requirements are a Jedi/Sith/whatever Snoke is tradition.

>Das it mane

Fucking Disney hacks. You have a super weapon that eats stars why the fuck does it need to shoot lasers. Fucking hyperspace that shit into a system and eat their sun, you’ve now ruined the entire system plus made it a dark zone in the galaxy. That’s actually intimidating and terrifying but lol no muh superlaser

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But everything is constantly changing positions. It doesn't make sense to have static lanes.

Lasers are cool

>But everything is constantly changing positions
At the same rate.

True story, that was my theory back when nothing about Starkiller Station was known except for the name

I imagined it being pointed at the starry night sky and just sniping any star it wants
>"We will plunge the galaxy into eternal darkness"
something like that

>Yoda told Luke that he needed to complete his training before he faced Vader in TESB
Yeah but facing Vader wasn't the final stage in Luke's training. Maybe I'm misinterpreting the scene or maybe it's even stupider than I thought, but Snoke seemed to be saying that killing Rey was the completion of Kylo's training.

"Fulfill your destiny" I believe

I know, but JJ didn't gave a shit.

The Starkiller Base wasn't in the same system, there's no way it could've been able to hit all these planets from different systems at the same time.

Toplol

That sounds like a sure way to have a massive planet crash the moment there's a small bug in the AI

user it would literally take millions of years for earth with no sun to move in a straight line the distance of pluto.

They had an ion cannon they couldn't use until the very last second so the transports could escape. There was not anti aircraft guns, WHICH, i might add would pail in comparison to the firepower of a single Star Destroyer

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Which galaxy region would you prefer to live in?

Core Worlds master race reporting in

>They had an ion cannon they couldn't use until the very last second so the transports could escape.
They could have used it earlier but decided not to.

And that canon is why they say, in the movie itself, why they aren't strafing the base with air support. Watch the damn films.

If it's Hayden Christensen and the scene turns out to be kino then NuWars is redeemed.

3 milion units, a clone unit could be a whole planetary division

if you're referring to what the kaminoans were referring to as units, they were most definitely talking about their individual products, ie clones

Ehmm that's not really true

oh boy, here we go. the stupidest argument in the whole franchise.

it only makes sense, from a business standpoint, you're not talking units as if they're an entire factory's worth of production

the cloners are businessmen, and they sell by the numbers of units they produce

youtube.com/watch?v=U1MnMA0TzGI
Did Luke manage to out-duel Vader in this scene because Vader wasn't actually trying to fight back seriously and was extremely off-balance?

Don't let Karen see this

luke went full on darkside.

Impossible. Perhaps the archives are incomplete?

Right but at the same time Vader doesn't even attempt to swing back. He looks like he's panicking. Vader doesn't want to kill his son not even when Luke embraces his anger and hulks out on him, and up to that point Luke didn't want to kill Vader either. The Emperor was just making the two of them fight to the death even though neither wanted it, just for kicks.

Not if the second from the top is a large planet and the others are moons, including the one at the bottom that's really close. From that perspective the distances of the moon's make sense. It doesn't make sense if you imagine the bottom one is the planet and all the others are moons because second from the top would either be too big or too close.

wookiepedia didn't exist in 1977 you mongoloid. blowing up Alderaan was just meant to be a bad thing the bad guys did, it makes less sense once you have the lore saying it's an important planet of billions

Tfw this Fucking Sheboon is stealing my screen presence

yeah, the empire doesn't really make sense in a lot of ways, and ultimately, they're films that are effective at entertaining the audience, so is that so bad?

the fight was a mirror of the cloud city duel
even down to Luke kicking Vader down the steps.
he knew he had the initiative at that point and was already trumping Vader at every move.
he chimped out and defeated Vader before coming back to his senses while the emperor thought he had succeeded in turning him

Not even that, it would be highly likely as a pattern for initial colonization. We should be seeing a sort of collecting dot pattern of concentration, like electric lights at night viewed from above, not even distribution.

It can move you fucking autist

And Luke had the initiative because Sheev was expecting Vader to kill his boy but Vader couldn't do it (hence the conflict and being off kilter).

That makes even less fucking sense. It’s a fucking Galaxy. The First Order has been around before the events of the film.

Why is it The Resistance and not The Republic, why is Leia essentially a fucking fugitive again, why is the only active resistance to The First Order a ragtag group of dipshits and not a concentrated military effort of uniformed military from dozens of not hundreds of fucking planets.

Don’t give me some bullshit in a fucking book written in a cuck shed or some supplementary comic book or whatever. This was a fucking movie and the information should be clear in the fucking movie.

>what is roche limit?

so you don't think the emperor really wanted a new, younger apprentice?
wasn't it the whole point that Luke would have killed and replaced Vader?

TFA is the laziest writing I've ever encountered in film.

The Emperor wants the strongest apprentice. Whichever survives the fight is the worthy one. Plus making Vader personally kill his children or a son kill his own father is A++ training in the Dark Side so it works out either way. But the bottom line is that Vader wanted to walk out of that room with Luke at his side as his new apprentice/son/heir but there was no way Sheev was letting that happen.

I know, I'm the one who said earlier that none of these planets were in the same system.
What was shown on screen was ridiculous.

>>"nope I'm a janitor lol"
Soldiers irl get put on those details as well. I could see a crackshot Stormtrooper with disciplinary issues being tasked with it.
Too bad J. J. is a shitty director turning Finn into a whipped horse. Thank God Rian turned him into a gag character

Reminder that in a deleted scene we see leia sending black chick to the new republic capital to lobby for help against the FO
It gives a little backstory to the new republic/resistance thing and shows leia actually doing something proactive but was cut because jj is a genius and thought the audience and han should see leia at the same time.
the scenes they choose to keep and the ones they choose to get rid of in these movies is fucking backwards.

We should start a movement which objective is to push women away from decision making in movies and video games. They are all fucking passionless normies ruining good franchises wherever they go

either way the outcome was kino as fuck, both of them saying to the emperor, at the end, basically "Go fuck yourself"

>deleted scene
fuck me, i haven't even considered looking at them... anything decent?