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100% true

Joss Whedon tried to salvage what he could from Snyder's mess but it still failed. Fuck Snyder

reminder that only non-whites enjoy snyder capeshit

snyder is a decent director, he's made some solid flicks but all DC flicks are ass

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No. Biggest mistake was going for Marvel style instead of Nolan style. Now we have 2 brands with similar material. DC could keep it grounded, capeshit themed action/drama aimed at slightly older audience with limited usage of CGI.

We would have 2 different alternatives instead of same cosmic/magic/superpowered shit.

I hope Joker movie will change approach to capeshit.

I mean, Whedon's JL was trash so I'm pretty sure the Snyder version would've at least been something different rather than another quipfest

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>Joss Whedon tried to salvage what he could from Snyder's mess but it still failed.
No way. He remade over 50% of the film and made it a quipfest. Ruined the color grading and Superman/Batman's story arc. Should have paused release and keep Snyder. We were robbed.

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Man of Steel was shit. BvS was shit but made money. WB is not the smartest studio. They should of canned Snyder before Justice League started filming

Please take your pleb opinions back to recetera

>changed the film completely
>salvaged

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Whedon ruined everything Snyder had built up.

The DCEU biggest mistake was to hire him in the first place

Yes, because BvS was truly inspiring lmao

Snyder had some decent concepts but he didn't truly commit.

Snyder ruined DC

Keep him far away from it

BvS greatest fault was being to smart for general audiences. People really do hate what they don't understand.

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BvS had Snyder vision and it was a giant clusterfuck.

Why does Nolan get praised for making a smart DC movie but Zack Snyder gets shit on for doing the same?

He's fucking drinking in the morning. I don't need blink-and-you-miss-it symbolism by way of some degenerate photographer's work to tell he's supposed to be unsatisfied with his situation and turning to sex and alcohol as a way to dull the pain.
Zack Snyder's work is neither dumb nor devoid of meaning, its downfall is insipidity and pretense, like what he demonstrates when he inserts some degenerate photographer's work in a shot that was already well put-together and able to communicate the exact same sentiment.

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>Why does Nolan get praised for making a smart DC movie but Zack Snyder gets shit on for doing the same?
Because Nolan had goodwill for returning batman to a more respectable place. Batman and Robin killed DC for many years. And MCU was starting to form. The DCEU could not compete because Marvel was already in full swing, dumbed down capeshit. There is a strong dislike for Cavill's Superman for some reason. Audience wanted Captain America/Chris Reeve but ended up with more Smallville conflicted CK.

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>should of

[Snyder's] biggest mistake was involving himself in making more capeshit in the first place. When you make a modern masterpiece like 'Watchmen' -- one of the few capeshit movies worthy of praise --and then attempt to do the same again, you end up somehow dried of trying to achieve the same greatness (or at least something close to it) and eventually fall into the inescapable pit of ineptness, after which everything collapses over your head and you get a ruined franchize that will hardly ever recover from the wreck. With or without dir-cuts, the new Snyder capemovies were deemed doomed from the beginning.

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I'd love to see 1930s Superman done Nolan style.
The villains are just realistically evil businessmen and politicians.
Clark Kent should be the main character and Superman is a plot device that shows up occasionally.

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We missed out on some serious kino

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>Epic, grand and emotional"
And dark, and depressing and overly serious. Exactly what people do not want nowadays.

If you aren't familiar with Hegelian dialectic and you can't write at least a 10 page essay on how Bruce's revelation that stays his hand is an in-and-for-itself moment, don't even try to argue that Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice is not a cinematic masterpiece that transcends the boundaries between high and low art. It's true capekino that's undeservedly shit on by the mindless masses.

I've read a commentary on "superheroes movies" on a right wing magazine i buy and the critic basically said: Snyder tried to "reinvent" these superheroes to suit an adult male audience and they probably failed because superheroes are made for kids and leftist men (aka "men with Peter Pan syndrome").

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Worst mistake was hiring Snyder and GOYer in the first place. Also paying any attention to marvel shit for the shekels is a mistake. They should just hired the same people who make the animated movies and they'll be ass raping marvel, but they're cucks

>Exactly what people do not want nowadays.
Darkness was not going to last forever. Snyder literally used Jor-El's quote from both his film and Donner's as a basis for his DCEU. If you can't accept this premise then I don't know what to tell you. This DCEU was always meant to be in Superman's point of view.
>In time they will join you in the sun
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>They can be a great people Kal-El, they wish to be. They only lack the light to show the way.
youtu.be/q4MHuwO7e9o?t=206

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LMAO I can guarantee snyder fucking paid for this article

his posts on social media are just fucking embarissing....

>Stephen Colbert
The guy from Venture Bros and Harvey Birdman?

>t. shill
Whedon is a fucking hack, how dare you

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Cool. But he still ruined Superman's story arc and Cavill in general. Whedon's dialogue was utterly cringe worthy.

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OPs who post headlines without source are God's biggest mistake.

Reading through this guy's articles at screenrant.com/author/smco/ he's super gay for Snyder.

Name a good joss whedon film

>avengers?

lol

yeah man, couldn't audiences just WAIT for 8 more movies for snyder to pay it off???

whedon's job was to produce a minimum viable product from the dreck that snyder had directed

yeah clearly he made it a lot worse

posting links so those shit sites get clicks is so much worse.

Shit like this makes me cringe.

These two are muscly manchildren, not men. They run entirely on persecution complex and edgy teen angst, and their character arcs revolve around their relationships with their parents.

These two are so childish they might a well be Naruto and Sasuke.

we all know you got triggered because you like capeshit.

I honestly think he's ass when it comes to DC movies. His subtle themes are inappropriate and are always overlooked, because everyone cares about the action/plot first and not the shitty symbolisms, references, and expressions. If you don't make a good superhero movie foundation, then no one will give about your attention to detail. He should've completed the movies rather than getting sidelined, so he can take full responsibility/accountability, and the cogs in his mind might start working, hopefully hinting to his ego, "maybe it's me this whole time"

>Salvage
Nigger, Whendon literally just said "Fuck it" and reshoot everything to be more Marvel Funny like and the Studio let him do it.

>discussing opinion as fact
American journalists need decimating.

Whedon's job was to take Snyder's very distinct style of filmmaking and try to unify it with the algorithm that Marvel use to make their films make money

I was enjoying Snyderkino, but everyone autistically bitching about "muh brooding superman" ruined it for everyone else. Just let the man do his work.

Whedon is a hack

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People hate what they don't understand.

>Reeves

Every time. Fawning over the guy, but never getting his fucking name right.