Stop, my invincible son

Superman wasn't strong enough to fight off the army yet so it was a risk for him to save Pa before he was ready to save the world.

thank fuck they didn't just write in a heart attack else we'd never have gotten this gem of a meme

This sums up all of Snyders work with the DCEU.

Its shit that looks and SOUNDS like it's deep and insightful, but you sink your teeth into it and you realize it makes zero sense. And then DC fans will write paragraph after paragraph about how it was supposed to be interpereted, always something along the lines of 'Yeah but like.... his father, man.... and he's like... sacrificial.... and its a metaphor for like.... Jesus"

The dude is fucking bulletproof.

>stay there and guard my wife while protecting your identity, invincible son

>because 15 people on a random highway during a tornado are gonna call the fucking military on some 19 year old

Also... what do you mean he couldn't fight off the army? What does the army have that can hurt him in any way? Are they gonna nuke him?

He wasn't strong enough yet. People would have reported that shit.

So him pulling the bus with his classmates out of the water with all the kids knowing was not enough for the army and government to do anything but him going really fast in front of a bunch of randos who saw what he looked like for 5 seconds were a problem? Ok.

CEASE MY INDESTRUCTIBLE OFFSPRING

>Protecting your identity

Superman literally could have ran up and held his dad to the ground and brought him back, pretending like the tornado just hadn't hit him yet. Nobody would immediately assume that kid was an alien based off the fact that he managed to escape a tornado. Even if they did know he had superpowers what are they gonna do? Tell the world? Superman could just say they were lying and not use his powers pretending he's a normal guy. I have tens of ideas.

>Guard my wife

From the tornado? Everyone hiding from it is literally just standing there. And if the tornado hit them and Superman had to keep her to the ground that would reveal his powers to

See

He got lucky the first time. Don't want to risk it again. They talked about this if you watched the movie.

I don't see how this scene was "stupid." The point of this is that even though Clark really wanted to SAVE Jon, and you can tell he really wanted to, Jon was afraid clark will expose himself and will strike fears to others. Mind you, Clark didn't even know his true potential of his powers during that time and didn't know how to fully control it during that time. So if he used it there, he could've killed/inured someone as well. That is why there's the "flight" scene where he actually has the suit for the first time and test his abilities. I don't know how this was even a bad film, but I definitely loved it and I definitely understood Cavill's Superman.

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I love Snyder but this scene was stupid. Fuck the world I'm not letting my dad die

HALT, MY INDOMITABLE PROGENY

See

>He wasn't strong enough

Again... what does the army have that can hurt him? Are they gonna nuke him?

>They would have reported it

"Hello yes, is this the military? I just saw a guy pull his dad to safety from an approaching tornado. Yeah he's definitely a space alien based off of what I just told you. Come over here and kill him"

That's what I've been trying to tell these feigning ignorance ass niggas

STAY THY HAND FRUIT OF MINE LOINS, WHOM NONE CAN INFLICT INJURY UPON

Fucking missiles and shit. Pa thought he wasn't peak kryptionian yet so it wasn't worth risking what he could be.

It doesn’t change the fact that it’s fucking retarded writing. Why didn’t Martha just say “EVERYONE CLOSE YOUR EYES!” and then have Clark just run out there and go to a different location? Then people would assume they died or miraculously survived later on if they happened to recognize them. The average person wouldn’t have assumed he was a fucking supernatural alien or some shit.

Both wers important to Jonathan Kent. Clark staying put accomplishes both. If he ran out to protect Jonathan and the tornado collapsed the overpass onto Martha (like tornadoes do) then he'd have risked revealing Clark's nature and his wife would have died.

He also knew Clark wasn't ready. Clark is barely ready by the time BvS rolls around and the world reacts negatively to him.

>he trained on a farm

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Can someone explain to me why Clark having his powers exposed is such a horrible thing? What the fuck are people going to do to him? Unless it's in front of at least hundreds of people nobody will ever believe the witnesses. Worst case scenario he has to wear an actual disguise instead of just glasses and bad suits.

How the fuck is that worth not only your own life but also the severe emotional damage to your child and difficulty that they would have in living without you?

Ay, Supes can make the world spin backwards to reverse time, but make a twister twist the other twist? Naw.

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>Fucking missiles and shit

"Alright, colonel. We found the boys house. He isn't doing anything out of the ordinary and all we have to go off of is some people told us he saved his dad. Fucking drone strike him"

Clark was lucky to stay out of the news for the bus. Everytime he saves someone, he risks winding up under scrutiny from the Amanda Wallers of the world

lmao you are just wrong about this - it never had anything to do with him being strong enough to fight the army moron. It was always about him not being mature enough to step into the superhero role. The world wasn't ready for him and he wasn't ready to be that person. This is spelled out for you, i don't know where you are getting this BS about Pa kent wanting him to be stronger so he could beat the army in a fight

>not being old enough to be a hero
Well considering he saved his class from drowning as a kid I’d say that’s a retarded argument.

Again. Lets say they did see him and reported him to the news.

"Local man manages to save his father from a tornado"

There are literally thousands of headlines like that and not a single person would assume this is an alien with super powers. If there's a media frenzy literally all he has to do is not show his powers again and it'll go away.

>I will die to protect your identity
>as a super hero he forgoes wearing a mask
>nobody notices anyway

I think Clark would have faced more severe emotional damage if he would have had to deal with the international backlash of being an invincible alien as a teenager. Disney kids get famous and wind up as drug addicts. Imaginethat fame but with active threats to you and your family. As a teenager

Yeah you're right, there aren't government agencies on this version of Earth actively hunting metahumans

I still disagree with you but at least this interperatation I can UNDERSTAND. This dude arguing that the Army was gonna declare war on some random kid is hilarious

“Wow honey! Look at this flying man! He kinda looks like the guy that stood there under the overpass as his dad was sucked into that tornado... huh.”

Lets assume there are people hunting metahumans on supermans world (keep in mind something never explained in the movie before bvs, so you're just theorizing this is what Snyder meant). Again, there are literally thousands of stories of people pulling off unexpected stuff. They would have a shit ton of people to investigate not to mention they'd be inadvertently killing hundreds of innocents who just managed to pull off something cool

It would never get to that level though. Even if they had video footage of him, few people would believe it. And unless they got a good shot of his face he wouldn't be recognized.

>implying that there aren't thousands of people all convinced that they know Superman's true identity

Oh I agree with you about the identity shit. It’s dumb as fuck. Just driving home that people seeing him before saving Pa Kent wouldn’t have changed a damn thing.

Clark Kent was not emotionally mature enough at that point in his life to handle the macro-scale repercussions of his life-saving deeds. The world would fear him, and try to destroy him, as occurs in BvS, but at that age, instead of respectfully trying to explain himself to mankind via court hearings, he would have probably lashed out and killed a bunch of people, eternally souring his relationship with humanity.

I love this meme

Movie Supes are gay. Let's make this thread better

SOMEBODY

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>”he would have probably lashed out and killed a bunch of people”
He was raised by good white parents who were supportive and there for him. The likelihood of that happening in the worst scenario is basically 0. Are you retarded?

This is the only way to redeem this scene

>my wifes invincible son, ask not what superman can do for you, but what you can do for superman

It's always eery to see just how dumb people are that they can't make sense out of a MOS or BVS scene. They need every motivation explained to them through exposition and quips

>lol just tell everyone to close their eyes while Clark saves them

SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAVE

>walks into a hurricane yet his shirt is perfectly fine and neat

MEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Does this mean everyone knows Batman's origin story?

It's always hilarious to see brainlets defend garbage flicks
have sex

Realizing the repercussions of a man-god appearing in the world and how that will have more of a possibly destructive impact than some guys dying in a hurricane should be fairly easy.

Hate Snyder all you want, but remember Death of the Author, i.e. separate the person from the work, and judge it on its own merits (and flaws).

It's a shame they avoided a more profound death for Pa Kent. I love the idea of him dying of a heart attack in front of Clark and Clark feeling helpless despite his powers. It's very in line with Superman's character traits and is wayyyy more relatable to the audience.

BvS is an extension to that idea that upon Superman's revelation to the world, others will rise to oppose him as the world is thrust into greater turmoil.
Like that one guy said in the film, every action Superman makes is now considered political.

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Clark could've flew him to a hospital.
Heart attacks are not instant and can be rushed to the emergency room.
Hence why driving is a last resort but with Superman it shouldn't have been a problem.
This is a nitpick.

DESIST, MY NIGH-OMNIPOTENT OFFSPRING

.. maybe

Have you ever actually had sex? It's terrible, they want to stick around afterwards and cuddle and the bed is too hot and also sweaty and the combined body heat is too much and the bed gets overheated and they sort of think they're you're friend now but they're not your friend. The second after you cum I'm just disgusted by them anyways but they don't want to be alone because they're needy or some other stupid made up feeling so I have to take them out for some breakfast and buy them a fucking omelet that we both know she's not going to finish and then when its over you have to get her number and promise you'll call her but we both know you're not going to call her. Why would you? You already got what you wanted out of her and the sex was mediocre at best and you wasted one of the two days a week you have free of being a wagecuck, you took your valuable free time and you fucking wasted it on some average broad when you could have paid for a hooker and had her get up and leave so I could go back to playing video games.

The only reason to have sex, and I mean LITERALLY THE ONLY REASON, is that fucking without a condom on feels pretty great. Nothing else about sex is even remotely enjoyable, not the stupid foreplay, not the cuddling, I don't even particularly enjoy getting my dick sucked anymore. I'd rather eat a burrito and watch American Dad and be left the fuck alone. No, I'm not going to marry you. No, you're not going to trick me into getting you pregnant(I've had a few women really try hard with that one), and no, you're not coming to live with me in my big empty house.

For one thing, it's my fucking house. For another thing, I like it big and empty, and lastly you're a fucking bore. Women are for the most part IMMENSELY boring. No, I'm not interested in hearing about your stupid day. No, I don't care what Sarah the intern said about your hair. No, I don't FUCKING CARE ABOUT HOW YOU'RE FEELING TODAY

NOT. FUCKING. WORTH. IT.

Face blindness is common for autists

This entire concept and scene made so much sense. Maybe the execution was lacking? Anyway I think people are pretty stupid hence the overblown reaction to this

The idea wasn't terrible, pa not wanting Clark's identity to get out even if it meant dying, but the execution was fucking horrible. Even by comic book standards it's stupid to assume a bunch of country people hiding from a tornado are going to sic the army on a teen because he ran after his father and they later somehow emerged safely from the tornado. Shit people come up with stories about shit like that all the time, Clark would at worst become a local celebrity as the tornado boy. It's even worse after the bus scene already happened.

this scene was surreal to me. why not have his dad accidentally trip over and fall into a big volcano? fuck snyder.

Anybody who doesn't understand this scene needs to grow the fuck up.

so he knows that bruce wayne is batman?

It's not about understanding it, it's about the scene itself being complete and utter shit. If you don't get that you need to grow up.

I don't like the scene but snyder talked about it and actually gave a good explanation

superman knew he was near invincible and incredibly strong, but he wasn't aware of all his powers, he learned to use superspeed and flight later after the fortress

So I could kind of get that

He wouldn't fight off the army, but he might be constantly on the run if they found out he was an alien. Look what happened when Zod and his army came. They didn't try to not hit Superman.

It would sort of be like the old Hulk show where he was constantly on the run.

FUCK 'EM, CLARK

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Actually that does make sense. He doesn't use his heat vision until way later in the film and at this point Clark is 18.

Alien autopsy.

You are living in an age where the same people who tried to dethrone a president for getting a blow job from his wife to where the same people elected a man who cheated on 3 wives with 2 wives twice while pregnant while paying off pornstars on the side.

And you think they won't see this guy as a demon (most likely) or at very least the military would scoop him up and test him for years upon years, they'd turn him into a weapon willing or not.

People are idiots

for all his powers, his heart is just as vulnerable as ours
the weight of the world, of human expectations, projections, adoration, fear, hatred gets to him
he can't superspeed away from, he's not bulletproof to it, and that's what's great about snyder's superman
in spite of all his kryptonian powers, he is still just a guy and that's what pa Kent knew and why he wanted to protect him

That makes no sense. If Clark didn't have super speed then there would be no reason for Pa Kent to tell him to stay put. The only reason Pa Kent has to tell him to stop is if it's known he would otherwise be able to reach him.

>Don't save me because the world will know you're Superman even though
>even though later on you literally will have no disguise and thousands of people arould the world will see your face

I just rewatched the scene and holy fuck it's worse than I remember. So to begin with, the guy gets killed for a fucking dog, that they somehow left in the car for no fucking reason even though it would have been the first to bolt once they left, then he goes instead of letting Clark go even though the tornado would do fuck all to him, the tornado moves slow as a snail, to the point he could have just walked away from it instead of standing there, and the way he hurts his leg is absolutely idiotic. He could also at least have tried to go back into the car for protection instead of standing there going "nah, just let me die".

How would the military do that?

let's not also forget that zack snyder puts wilhelm screams in his movies.

Well for normal human beings, you can pretty fast from one place to another. He was probably worried clark was going to use his other powers and people would see.

But if you aren't normal running 50 yards is pretty much a 2 minute drill

you're mind has transcended and there is no more room for anything except memes

That makes sense. Clark showed all his powers off before he used them. He never just Mary Sued them. There was always an introduction before action.

Shit maybe we are so used to crap like Rey that actual character building gets lost to us

Well, they wouldn't exactly know his powers at the beginning. They most likely would try over and over again though. Hell, maybe hire a super genius like Lex to try?

Well they'd try to persuade him into doing stuff appeal to his patriotism and good nature. Tell him these terrorist are bad guys and shit. Then if that didn't work try to pay him off or pay off a charity of his choosing. If that didn't work go after the ones he loves until he does what you want,

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He could just run at normal speed, there was enough time for it. Damn this scene is so badly written.

I don't know, that tornado just flew by pretty quick. Normal might be worse, cause then people could clearly see him survive a tornado.

Have sex incel

>Stop, my invincible son
>kill them before coming out to save me

Why didn't Clark understand?

youtube.com/watch?v=JXrKQ3X9pFM

It's common knowledge that Kevin Costner was just telling the camera crew to cut

>"Sieg heil, my eternal prince"
What did Raimi mean by this?

What other powers? If he doesn't have speed or flight or heat vision, the only powers he has are super strength. No one would bat an eye at Clark being able to lift his father, guy's built like a linebacker.

I always figured that it was because he didn't want his son revealing his powers

>dont save me even though you move so fast none of us would notice

Superman could effortlessly annihilate the entirety of the united states armed force.

Yeah it’s better for Clark to grow up without dad and have high chance becoming a crimil with superpowers

it dies with us

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>kill them, invincible son! and together we can rule this world!

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From my point of view, Jon only wants to protect Clark from the world and vice versa, and to show that you can't always save anyone. Fuck the idiots in this thread, and fuck this meme.

MoS being one of the most divisive films in recent times is pretty fucking meta for it's own sake.

This really is the simplest answer. I don't even know if people are serious when posting this meme.

>protect Clark from the world
>by stopping him from saving his father in front of 20 rednecks
>for fear they might sic the army n a teenager who miraculously saved his dad from a tornado
You're the only retard here.

Nice job proving my fucking point. Some of those 20 rednecks could either blab about the superhuman saving his father, get on their knees in worship, or shun him and attack, hence the vice versa: Protect the world from Clark.

>Jon was afraid clark will expose himself and will strike fears to others
You Snyderfaggots are so retarded. People already knew that was the point. But the point is still stupid because if Clark saved the dog then people would just assume it's another lucky circumstance of a young adult saving an animal from a natural disaster.

oh no no no

I laughed out loud. He got his just deserts for implying Clark should have let the kids in the bus drown. Really a shitty movie in every which-way possible (except Shannon)

Yeah because "young man saving an elderly person and a small animal" is the same as "superpowered alien doing impossible feats," right? You MOSfags are stupid.

And even if he did he can't necessarily be saved.

Why are people so stupid? Pa Kent was clearly suicidal and didn't need his son to ruin it for him. He wanted out of the Snyderverse so bad, he killed himself

Wouldn't hurt to try, except for Jon obviously.
Anyways, like I said, it's a nitpick.

>S-s-save Pa

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based

>The point of this is that even though Clark really wanted to SAVE Jon, and you can tell he really wanted to, Jon was afraid clark will expose himself and will strike fears to others.
Yeah, and that's fucking retarded because the lesson it literally tells Superman is "allow fear to dictate your actions". Between this scene and the lecture about not saving the kids on the buss, Pa Kent is telling Clark that what's best for him takes precedence over the needs of others. That's a dangerous fucking lesson to teach a kid that will one day grow up to have God-like power.

It'd be fine if the film acknowledged how shitty of a mentor Pa Kent was, that he's just a man and was projecting his insecurities about his son's well-being onto Clark, but because Snyder and Goyer suck, the movie genuinely wants us to believe that Pa Kent is some sort of wise old man in the vein of Uncle Ben, despite them preaching completely opposed values.

See

Does anyone have the photo that ends with "This is an excellent plan" showing Pa's thoughts?

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t. school shooter

>meme
You dumbfuck don’t undestand that everybody actually knows WHY this scene is presented but has problem with how this scene is done

>"Hello yes, is this the military? I just saw a guy pull his dad to safety from an approaching tornado. Yeah he's definitely a space alien based off of what I just told you. Come over here and kill him"

Haha fucking this. Get rekt Snyder sneeds

When you try to defend Invincible Son scene just remember that the whole drama started because of a dog. A dog that somehow was stuck in the car. A dog that normally would leave any car the very same second you open the door.

*smacks ass and runs away*

HALT, MY UNTOUCHABLE OFFSPRING!

Why didn't Pa Kent simply have a heart attack?
It would have been less retarded. Just have Superman argue with him and then storm off because he's mad. When he comes back his dad is dead.

>"Hello yes, is this the military? I just saw a guy pull his dad to safety from an approaching tornado. Yeah he's definitely a space alien based off of what I just told you. Come over here and kill him"

Unironically funny

never gets old