>a new version is in the works courtesy of Amazon Prime and the two lead roles have been cast today. Sam Strike (Nightflyers) will play The Gunslinger, while Jasper Pääkkönen (BlacKkKlansman) is set to play Marten, a.k.a. The Man in Black.
>Completely independent of the movie, Elba will clearly no longer be making an appearance and it's said that we're getting a much more faithful take on the material. In fact, it's being reported that "it will take place many years before the events depicted in the feature and will focus on Roland Deschain's origin story – how he first became a gunslinger and got his guns, his first conflict with the man in black, his first love and his first mission as a gunslinger."
I've been a Kingfag/ Tower Junkie since the 90s, but didn't bother seeing TDT because it looked like ass and I heard that they combined seven books into one 90-minute shitball.
This makes me excite. Wizard and Glass was a really fun read.
Ryan Evans
Good casting for the Man in Black. Waiting for the Twitter outrage about them whitewashing The Gunslinger even though the character was always white.
Henry Nelson
>even though the character was always white His first description was someone who looks "half Cherokee, half Amish". It was only in future reshuffles that he began to look like Clint Eastwood and then exactly like Stephen King.
>Wizard and Glass Fuck, why couldn't it have been literally anything else from the series
Jordan Cruz
Is the lack of forced diversity here a positive sign for the upcoming LOTR series?
Camden Wilson
When I first read Wizard I didn't like it I thought it was too fucking long and drawn out giving it another read after Keyhole I liked it much more. I think most of it was I knew Callahan was going to be in the next book and I loved Salems lot in Middle School.
Owen Sanchez
Pretty much. 500 pages of Roland fucking some local bitch and we are suppose to swallow that it was some eternal love for the ages. The fall of Gilead gets a paragraph with oh-so-important members of the ka-tet have like one line death scenes.
Robert Walker
Sounds like they're using the comic plot, maybe to plagiarize the visuals. It wasn't bad - much better than the terrible movie.
Levi Green
>The fall of Gilead gets a paragraph All things considered this was the best option. Not touching on it directly makes it more interesting. Of course wizard is useless since you already know all the characters but Roland die.
Henry Bell
>thinking King can write good stories
Carson Ward
literally one of the only good books King has ever written
Justin Walker
i like how he left the fall mostly up to the imagination, i wouldn't want to read an entire book dedicated to explaining it
I'm guessing they are going to pull things from The Gunslinger like Roland's battle with Cort, which I don't mind. However, if this is really going to be picked up as a full on reboot, start with old Roland and the original quote of "The man in black fled across the desert, and the gunslinger followed' before dipping into the past.
Brandon Perry
PääKKKönen.
Nolan Jackson
>i like how he left the fall mostly up to the imagination, i wouldn't want to read an entire book dedicated to explaining it This.
Also, if anyone here hasn't read Wind Through The Keyhole, you absolutely should. The sharp drop in story quality from Books 5-7 makes a hard U-turn.
Sebastian Walker
The only thing of his worse than W&G is Joyland
Easton Parker
JUMALAUTA
Austin Moore
probaly a witcher/netflix type situation. they cast the leads white and fill the rest of the cast with diversity hires.
Mason Clark
you're just a pleb, the other Dark Tower books minus the first one are excruciating
Parker Williams
yea i havent read that one. i might get around to it one day but the last book left a bad taste in my mouth and i dont really care anymore
Christopher Edwards
That was my problem with the book in the first place. I didn't want to know Roland's back story. It takes away from his character. Having little nods to it here and there was the best option, but W&G shows way too much and doesn't even make it interesting..
Jason Campbell
i liked it much more than wolves of calla. christ that shit was fucking unbearable
Dominic Flores
Yeah, and Goggins is the best part.
Grayson Lewis
I can mostly agree with this, though. The first one is great, then the next two range from okay to bad. W&G is terrible, and the last three have good moments sprinkled in with tons of shit.
Nolan Green
>its a 'detta has sex with a demon chapter HONK MAFAH
Andrew Rogers
Maybe you're right. Still even this was somehow fucked up by making every minor villain some shapeshifting Randall Flagg bullshit.
Levi Jenkins
This. I have mixed feeling on King and his writing, but this is one of the best openings to a book ever. One sentence creates an entire mood and atmosphere. If they have any sense it should start with that then become an extended flashback, which they return from and move into the 1st book for season 2.
Asher Roberts
The first one is kino. Although, I only read the original version, where the Man in Black dies at the end and is not the same person as Marten and every other villain not Farson. The second and third book move at a nice pace and saving Jake was great. The Ageless stranger resurrecting Tick-Tock Man was pretty hype for me, but honestly led to nothing. The whole series goes off the rails with the resolution of Blaine the mono thing. The meta bullshit and the pretentious attitude King has against the word meta while at the same time indulging in it, lightsabers, Doctor Dooms, Harry Potter, to much to name. The ending where it turns out that the Tower is willing to sacrifice the safety of the multiverse just to tech Roland a lesson in picking up musical instruments off the ground and not killing his friends was a huge what the fuck. and the whole maybe next time it's gonna the last one. Fuck that after 7 books you better show me the last cycle, not a hyotetical next-to-last. Just because the opening lines of the first book were great doesn't mean that the book can't end in any other way. Plenty of book have great opening lines, but don't end just by repeating them. But, King was always shit at endings.
Carter Price
Didn't the movie for this just fucking bomb terribly? Who do they expect to reach with this shit? Yeah okay, nevermind. The answer is retards
Adam Young
What was annoying about the comic is that it looked great (at times even amusingly dramatic), but it felt really empty.
Benjamin James
>i like how he left the fall mostly up to the imagination It's as though everyone has forgotten how cool a mysterious origin can be. In the quest to squeeze every dollar out of every popular IP in existence, we've destroyed so many cool characters. Some characters break when you reveal their past because it can never live up to the reader's/viewer's imagination.
Liam Long
What happened to Idris Elba? Did they can him because his movie didn't sell, because he looks nothing like the role? Isn't that racist? They should've just doubled down, made ten more movies with him, called everyone who didn't watch it racist. That always works, doesn't it?
Sebastian Bell
Good!
Caleb Thomas
>King was always shit at endings I feel like he could have done some amazing work if he'd partnered with someone better at the planning and logistics. King admits he never has an ending in mind. He just brute forces 500+ pages into existence and ends it clumsily when he's tired of writing. He is amazing at setting things up though, and at fleshing out characters. He's 50% of a brilliant writer. Great ideas, great descriptions, and great characters. Shit plot, shit narrative organization, shit endings.
This is why his movies vary so wildly. The best ones are the ones where a film maker takes his general idea and beats it into serviceable shape. Whenever anyone faithfully adapts one of his books it always falls somewhere between Meh and Hard Cringe.
Isaiah Fisher
It did bomb, but literally the only thing that movie had in common with the material it was supposedly adapting was the title and name of the main character. They could not be farther from each other if they tried. Making something that the fans would want to watch might actually make at least the production budget back. Also making it a TV series means you don't have to squeeze it all in 95 minutes. These fucking books are dense with detail, it's not like a Harry Potter book which is just a collection of plot points. I'm not saying that makes them good books, just that adapting like this might be a better idea.
>yea i havent read that one. i might get around to it one day but the last book left a bad taste in my mouth and i dont really care anymore Same here, but WTTK allows you to pretend Wolves, Song, and TDT didn't happen. I don't know if King was back on coke when he wrote it but it slots in perfectly next to Wizard and Glass.
Elijah White
>surely this time my corporate overlords will do it good
Grayson Robinson
I feel like you called me a retard even though I said I didn't watch TDT because it looked terrible.
John James
...
David James
>still no viggo sad
Justin Price
Say no more, my incel friend.
Elijah Allen
Consider yourself lucky. I saw it out of curiosity while I was on a flight and it was easily the worst movie there in the selection. It had absolutely fuck all to do with the main story and felt like it was trying to imitate an MCU movie. Everything just felt bland as fuck,
Brandon Ramirez
>What is watching a pirated download copy months after the fact because I had nothing better to do and wanted to see how badly they screwed up But then again, you are not trying to be reasonable, you just want to call people names. Last (You), boy, don't use it all at once.
Angel Myers
>starting with Wizard and Glass oh lord my body is ready. even when they will cast a black actress for susan, i won't fucking mind. plus wmbf is great cuz it triggers blacks
>I'M SO HYPED FOR THIS TV SERIES CANT WAIT TO WATCH IT >this is totally related to a shit movie
Zachary Miller
So whose idea was it to make the movie a sequel to the books and yet really just an incoherent mess of random scenes from the books thrown in with shit that doesn't work for either fans or newcomers? The movie was doomed from the beginning.
Parker Moore
>cast a black actress for susan What's the point if they can't push their BMWF agenda? They'll just make one of Roland's ka-tet black to cover the diversity quota.
Logan Peterson
fucking kino he didnt see that coming the man in black is no match for the black man.
He never objected to the movie casting a black guy either.
Brody Gutierrez
The gunplay was literally the only good thing about the movie.
Easton Watson
This shot in the movie doesn't happen in the book. Roland doesn't have any special bullshit shooting powers other then shooting really fast and being accurate as fuck.
Gabriel Baker
Nah. Alain will be black, cuz he was the smart one.
Ian Diaz
Anything he says these days is suspect. He's gone off the reservation, nutso, so far left to be clinically brain dead.
Brody Jenkins
He had sick reloading skills too
Mason Jones
>I forgot how his skills work His aim is really good with basically any ranged weapon and he draws really fast. Those are his, and every other gunslinger's, skills.
Thomas Jones
two white men. Am I seeing things. I can't believe this happened in 2019.
Joseph Sanders
Don't forget the howken.
Luis Ortiz
oh I know it's just a repeat of the black Hermione shit, the point I was making was that his visual portrayals have always been a certain way so it is strange that they chose elba (though perhaps somewhat forgivable because of the multiverse stuff). The problem is that SJW types double down on "roland was always black!!" garbage when they could actually justify the change within the context of the universe
Eli Myers
This. Rule of cool, in fantasy setting it's fine to show a mythical gunslinger capable of crazy things. Only complete autists disagree.
William Davis
Ending was perfectly fine. Not sure what you think would have been better.
Chase Watson
It was a sequel to the books. And yes, it was really really awful.
Jacob Harris
literally the best book in the saga, arguably one of the best books King has written
Brayden Moore
based wmbf posters Doesn't Roland end up with a black women later in the books?
Anthony Hernandez
The first one is easily the best, followed by Through the Keyhole
Brandon Jones
>The Gunslinger is the only book in the series I think is actually good. >Hell, it's not just good, it's one of the best things he's ever written >in his introduction to the series, he says how it's the worst one and you just have to force yourself through it until you get to the Drawing of the Three
fuck
Blake Ross
NEEKERIT VITTUUN SUOMESTA
Jonathan Cooper
Okay the movie sucked but you haven't read the books.
The movie is a sequel to the books, and the movie has parts of the books in it because..... the books end on a TIME FUCKING LOOP
GODDAMMIT HOW THE FUCK CAN SO MANY PEOPLE TALK ABOUT THE BOOKS AND NOT ACTUALLY HAVE READ THE BOOKS. 9/10 POST ARE BY JACKASSES WHO DIDN'T ACTUALLY READ THE BOOKS BITCHING ABOUT HOW THE MOVIE ISN'T LIKE THE BOOKS
Eli Garcia
But I did read the books, user. There's not much else to do in prison but read.
Julian White
half Cherokee half amish isn't a nigger you fucking retard
Jeremiah Perez
Not that I remember, it's been a while. The main couple of the majority of the books is Eddie and Susannah, though.
Carson Sullivan
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Also, the two leads look like the same person aged 5 years apart. Casting is key and like a nigger Gunslinger, this one will fail miserably as well (see Castle Rock).
The King is dead.
Joshua Sanders
this. the only people who care about this shit are bookfags like those that bitch about GOT all day, every day - there is no pleasing lifeless, friendless, losers.
Jeremiah Bailey
>time is a flat circle ending
This ouroboros shit was never explored in the previous 7 books so introducing it literally at the end as some form of karmic punishment for Roland was hackery. I was under the impression that the Tower was in danger and by extension reality itself was jeopardized. Nope. Let's risk everything again and again to teach Roland a lesson. The fuck happens if Roland dies before reaching the Tower? Reality itself goes bye-bye or does it reset anyway?
Evan Moore
Is this gonna be late 2000s good? Or is this gonna be 98lb grill is stronger and smarter than the MC?
Dominic Cox
>smirks gleefully with head cocked slightly, squinted eyes pointed to the corner of the frame
>Doesn't Roland end up with a black women later in the books? He has a one-night fling with a woman in the Calla who's sort of Hispanic-looking.
I don't remember the ethnicity of the woman he fucks in Keystone Earth, but she's probably either white or jewish.
Kevin Rivera
>Waiting for the Twitter what the fuck is wrong with you? i would murder you
Benjamin Campbell
Maria Järvenhelmi
Benjamin Rogers
Jesus fucking christ, finally some good news.
Julian Nelson
I hope they cast viggo for old roland deschain
Blake Lewis
I guess the important thing is that I'm happy with this news and am looking forward to this with enthusiasm, while you're... whatever it is you're about.
Howdy kitty
Owen Sanchez
Ok, you know Amish people are white and speak German right?
Sebastian Lee
>Walton Goggins Wait, didn't they dig coal together?
Ayden Lewis
>he's white What the fuck!? Has netflix been infiltrated by nazis? We all know that the gunslinger is a black man like Idris Elba and the title "the dark tower" refers to his overwhelming BBC.
Hudson Morgan
This actually sounds neat. I'm not a big King fan but I read a bunch of his books when I was a teenager and the Dark Tower series is some of his best work, at least the first three books. There is only one of his novels I like better.
Wind through the keyhole was the best dark tower book......
Camden Edwards
How dare they whitewash Roland And how dare Stephen King sell the rights for a new Dark Tower so soon, the fucking racist
Owen Sullivan
as opposed to when he was a coke addict writing about child orgies
Lincoln King
I thought that Roland was too young looking, but if it starts with Wizard and Glass then that's probably fine. They had to age up the characters to show the sex scenes, I'm sure.
Julian Powell
>There is only one of his novels I like better. Which one?
Jonathan Rivera
Half cherokee can be descriptive and not literal. As in high cheekbones and squinting eyes. You know, like Clint
Jack Russell
Dutch.
Oliver Taylor
This user knows what's up.
Colton Nguyen
Olyphant already did play a convincing Eastwood in Rango.
Nathan Morris
>not having drawing of the three in kino tier >having Gunslinger in kino tier Everything else is good though
Ka being a wheel is repeated over and over and over throughout the entire series, dipshit.
Nathan Long
The Eyes of the Dragon. Sometimes I wish he would have just been a fantasy author.
Jordan Sullivan
Gunslinger is kino.
Julian Moore
Fuck the tower, where's my Long Walk TV Series.
Jeremiah Evans
>not being able to read
Owen Mitchell
>Yea Forums has good taste for once Well I'll be damned.
Jeremiah Reyes
>Fuck the tower, where's my Long Walk TV Series. Man... If they stayed true to the book that would be amazing.
Jack Lewis
All they had to do was keep the cast white and now everyone wants to see it. Isn't it crazy how that works, Hollywood?
Brody Powell
Wizard and Glass is THE read of the DT series.
t.hyped af
Austin Williams
based
Jacob Martin
so the gunslinger is just a kid? what the fuck
Samuel Davis
correct, except wolves of callah is somewhere between low and shit tier, just add a low tier and toss wolves in there and it's fine. actually, wolves would have been fine if not for doctor doom robots with lightsabers. if they were just low men stealing kids, that would have been fine.
See Deadwood. Also really funny in Santa Clarita where he's basically told to take everything in the worst way possible for each moment.
Leo King
and dark skin from wandering the desert for decades also like clint
Sebastian Hall
holy fucking based, at least its no longer a nigger. finally a good reason to use my rare pepe but i mean ... it's still gonna be some gay shit, because it's the current year, so I'm gonna curb my enthusiasm
Same could be said of Diablo which sadly focused too much on Scott Eastwood and not on true KINO Goggins' performance.
Parker Thompson
and i feel like syfy or AMC could do a good 5-8 part series "event". it's not outlandish, doesnt need a massive production budget, no cgi scifi monsters and all kinds of other dumb bullshit, just take some of the 'fuck's out of the book and keep the rest of the language the same. it could be solid tv kino
Lucas Reed
So is the world going to act like that Dark Tower movie never happened? The one that went to DVD like a month after release?
Hunter Cooper
>hasn't read the books, but will still complain about the finished product
Evan Lewis
spotted the brainlet
Caleb Hughes
yes, it's better that way
Bentley Hernandez
They should be ashamed of themselves for whitewashing such a proud black protagonist like that. Fucking shameful.
Thomas Reyes
song of susannah is so fucking awful holy fucking god i dont know how i finished that book
Luke Phillips
honestly I can almost see the actor on the left as a young Roland. Not an entirely bad pick. Maybe not quite masculine enough from the facial features.
Isaac Brooks
why are they starting with rolands past? that's kind of odd.
