Which adaption of Charlie and the Chocolate Factory is a better movie?

>gene wilder
This is not even a question, OP. Try again.

Yeah but right had stupid wonka backstory. Did we really need to see flashbacks of his childhood? What the fuck was that gay shit

The songs were shit in the new one. The oompa loompas sound like gay retards. The songs in the original are timeless classics. They also made Wonka too lolrandom for the hot topic crowd.

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How is his voice so pristine at an old age, with alzheimers?

Left is better.
Had better songs, better set design and a fucking scary boat ride right in the middle of the factory.
I mean, do the Ompa Loompas who travel between those two places in the factory every day have to put up with that over and over again?

People say the left is better but I've only seen the right because the one on the left looks like shit, like just visually it's terrible

>The songs were shit in the new one.
What exactly was "shit" about them?
>They also made Wonka too lolrandom for the hot topic crowd.
Have you read a single page of Charlie and the Great Glass Elevator in your life? Wonka is a fruitcake. The man literally takes Charlie with him into the freaking negative dimension where people go if you feed them too much vita-wonk. He has two glass elevators that run on the same track because reasons. He takes the glass elevator to a nearby space hotel and tangles with the Vermicious Knids.
The man has dick-flavoured wallpaper that he instructs children to lick.

>What exactly was "shit" about them?
Easily forgettable Elfman music that all just blurs together.

>Vermicious Knids.
Those Vermicious Knids were epic. I loved that book so much.

I feel like Burton's Willy Wonka was less Wonka and more Michael Jackson. Not even in a passing way -- he's straight up Michael Jackson in terms of mannerisms, nervous laughter, pale angular features, grooming young boys by bribing their families, etc.

What did they mean by this?

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So creepy.

No, I've never read it. But what I meant was his mannerisms, and the conversations he'd have with characters came off as quirky and lolrandom for the hot topic crowd. And seeing as this is a Tim Burton film it isn't that hard to believe. A character can be insane as you described without being "quirky"

Based retard

Gene Wilder is a cunt and the left movie looks like an amateur kids film project with all the lame props and shit.

The right movie sets a consistent tone and builds more lore into the story, especially Wonka and his dad.

But nooo, it has CGI in it so it must suck right? You fags can acknowledge the Star Wars prequels are kino but not this? Shape up...

For me personally. Left is 9/10. Right is 6/10.

I'd say 8 and 6. Didn't really care for Depp as Wonka, but other than that the remake was fine.

>There was such stupid shit in the left. Why the fuck would BOTH his grandpas and grandmas from his mom and dads side all be sharing a fucking bed together? That’s so fucking weird and made no sense. Plus they ate cabbage soup all the time. That duvet would be covered in geezer fart
But that's in the right one too

>ruined Charlie Bucket as a character with the Fizzy Lifting Drinks scene.
It enhanced his character giving him flaws. He made a mistake and was given the opportunity to redeem himself, and showed the emotional maturity to recognise it.

Have you ever read a Roald Dahl book?

One doesn't read a Roald Dahl book, one experiences it.

I don't understand how anyone could like the newer one. Everything about it is just so forgettable, whereas the older one is one of the most iconic kid's films made. Everyone knows the Oompa Loompa songs, spoiled brat Varuca Salt, the everlasting gobstoppers, and some even remember quotes like Wonka saying "Candy is dandy, but liquor is quicker".

Show me a more poignant example of when a movie was made twice, and all the soul was sucked out of the remake.

Left
>timeless special effects
>light hearted fun
>memorable songs
>art style that really captures the childlike wonder of a magical chocolate factory
Right
>garbage CGI that already looks dated
>le dark edgy take on wonka that doesn't suit the subject at all
>garbage pop songs that no one can remember

Let's not pretend that left's factory wasn't a filthy sketchy mess run by midgets...look at the machine that makes gobstoppers.

anyone see the broadway show for Wonka?

Pure Imagination is one of the greatest songs/scene on film.

The entire damn point of Charlie Bucket -- who by the way was supposed to be black but Dahl's people recommended he change it -- was pure-hearted. Impossible to corrupt. He "won" because he refuses to give in to temptation.

Dahl detested having to write that movie. He hated what they made him do to the characters. He later reflected that he wished he'd told them to go to hell.

The first movie was a bad adaptation of a timeless novel. The second movie was a slightly less bad adaptation of a timeless novel.

Also, Veruca Salt in the old movie is fucking stupid. Golden Geese? For fucking reals?

>>le dark edgy take on wonka that doesn't suit the subject at all
Have you read the original books? Like, at all?

>Charlie stood at the open door of the Elevator and stared into the swirling vapours. This, he thought, is what hell must be like … hell without heat … there was something unholy about it all, something unbelievably diabolical … It was all so deathly quiet, so desolate and empty … At the same time, the constant movement, the twisting and swirling of the misty vapours, gave one the feeling that some very powerful force, evil and malignant, was at work all around … Charlie felt a jab on his arm! He jumped! He almost jumped out of the Elevator! 'Sorry,' said Mr Wonka. 'It's only me.'
>'Oh-h-h!' Charlie gasped. 'For a second, I thought …'
>'I know what you thought, Charlie … And by the way, I'm awfully glad you're with me. How would you like to come here alone … as I did … as I had to … many times?'

>dick-flavored wallpaper
What in the fuck?

Snozzberries are dicks. They're also a real kind of berry. But Dahl was a right perv.

Right is Michael Jackson and the chocolate factory

w-what did he mean by this

Wonka's a fookin paedo? I always knew that cunt wasn't right in the head

You bunch of pretentious fuck.
The right clearly is better.

Wonka essentially has eternal life pills that he considers too important to waste on himself. He gives them to Charlie's grandparents, but the greedy fucks take too many, and one of his grandmas straight up disappears. Wonka and Charlie have to take the glass elevator to "Minusland", which is basically nightmare fuck hell populated by invisible monsters, in an effort to find Charlie's grandmother and administer an antidote. Wonka had to go to minusland over and over again during the testing phases of "vita-wonk", the anti-aging drug because the Oompa-Loompas kept disappearing. He saved every single one. Because Wonka looks after his totally not black slaves.

Who cares just start posting violets