Wait a minute. Does no one ever remember when Boromir willingly, but with trouble admittedly...

Wait a minute. Does no one ever remember when Boromir willingly, but with trouble admittedly, gave up the ring when going over the mountains? In the movies it's only ever mentioned by everyone that Sam was the only one to do it besides Frodo. However, Boromir did it despite feeling as if he needed it to save Gondor.

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We all remember.

What's your point?

He knew he couldn't get away with it because he was knee-deep in snow and they'd just see his footmarks and shot him down.

what I wanna know is why do most treat him as a bad guy who redeemed himself rather than a guy who was almost exclusively a hero throughout

Boromir is the patrician's choice for best character in the series.

Boromir didn't end up letting go of the ring, not emotionally. He was corrupted from that moment and tried to take the ring. Bilbo was also able to physically drop the ring but until his death he was longing for it.

Sam is the only person to possess, wear, and give up ring with no lasting longing for it.

he had it in his hands but not his possession, retard

This, he was far nobler than Aragorn.

correct answer

I'm not sure how significant it is, but I think he only technically handles the chain and not the ring.

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Correct. The One Ring eroded his will over time -- but it was a formidable will belonging to a true hero.

this

okay but how heavy is a warg and an orc and how strong is gimli to where he can't lift them up before the other warg also weighs him down

How does Gimli know what a "central nervous system" is? Do dwarves really understand how information is coordinated throughout multicellular animals?

why did aragorn commit a war crime when killing the mouth of sauron? should he have been held accountable for that? did the elven icc ever try to investigate but then gondor threatened retaliation?

There was a mosquito on his neck, he was just being helpful

not many people realize that being corrupted by the ring wasn't really a choice.

Pedophiles did not exist on middle earth since the men could just kidnap and fuck hobbits. Adult hobbits
What no one knows about gollum is that
that he had been corrupted a long time ago by the rape of a man as smeagol.
Thats what made him fall for the ring.

The orcs raped and killed innocents all the time. Also orca don't do warfare like gentleMEN, it's implicit in the name. It's like fighting animals.

The ring doesnt have the same effect on everyone.

Stfu kys

I think it is user. There's no heroism without choice, much like courage exists as a "reaction" of sorts to fear.
Possibly! I wonder if Boromir's and Aragorn's main difference was in Aragorn's knowing he would have fallen to the ring in time, and letting Frodo and Sam thus go by themselves, where Boromir didn't see the possibility of his own weakness.

Very significant.

The story would have played out differently if Sauron had an army of orcas.

the ring is a literally supernatural object that invades the mind of the beholder, at that point any preexisting notions of heroism and choice are thrown out the window

Shamu vs Sharku

I'd be inclined to see it in the same way possibly, but I think it just doesn't track with Sam's resisting it. I think Tolkien's whole point is a certain kind of purity that can resist the corruption of "evil", hence why all the great heroes end up bowing to the hobbits, not for their might, but for their virtue.

...then again to be honest I haven't read the book in its entirety, so I'm going off from the movies. Admittedly, for all I know the book could be totally different, so glad to discuss with anons who know the lore better.

IDK why Jackson even filmed the scene the way it was. If he regretted it because it's unkingly and OOC for Aragorn, then why even deviate from the book in the first place. I like the scene because the Mouth is one of the best uses of makeup and prosthetics in the entire series.

The Mouth isn't an orc though

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>it just doesn't track with Sam's resisting it
I think the point there is that Sam is different, he is "worthy" to withstand the corruption of the Ring, which is why he is often regarded as the true hero of the Fellowship. He is an intentional anomaly

That's his story arc, you nitwit. He painted as THAT GUY most likely to turn traitor and not only does he resist the ring but also dies in battle protecting Frodo.

Boromir is the most human character in the entire saga and is based as fuck.

The number of hobbits who touch the ring and manage to willingly give it up is 2 for 3, so I'm tempted to extrapolate and say hobbits are generally much purer and incorruptible than big folks.

I think that's kind of the point. It's all very christian, which makes sense with Tolkien's (supposed?) belief system, and his take on power and corruption. The simple, "little people" had in their heart something which, the big heroes, through all their ambition, failed to have, at least with the same purity. I think how weak hobbits are compared to numenorean, elven and dwarven powerhouses is consistent with that, and metaphorically accurate. Tho, again, haven't read the book. so it's an unimportant two cents.

>2 for 3
I get Sam, who is the other? Remember that Frodo in the end got corrupted, right as he was about to toss it in. Also with Bilbo see

homosexuality was rampant in middle earth thanks to the elves.

The elves were constantly sexually involved with many men . Thanks to their gender fluidity the elves seduced many men,

Some elves were even as evolved as to be transgender and used magic to appear as true female and seduce straight men.

Why was Sam immune? Serious question. Was it because he was so pure of heart?

You're getting about Sméagol and that hobbit he killed to first claim the ring. Neither of them gave it up. Biblo never truly gave up the ring; he never stopped wanting it. Giving up the ring is much more then dropping it and walking away.

So that's 1/5 hobbits resisted the ring. The theory isn't holding much water.

Smeagol was a corrupted the first moment he set eyes on the ring

Kek

Thanks Amazon.

Nobler how? He was lower born and far less virtuous. Sean Bean played him as a lads' lad, that only makes him relatable, not noble.

While it is cliche by today's standards, the most likely reason is Sam's power of friendship with Frodo allowed him to forgo the rings evil.

He loved his people too much, that was his weakness :(

I don't think war crimes apply to total war

>Why was Sam immune? Serious question. Was it because he was so pure of heart?

He only handled it for less than a day. That's the main reason. Most of the Fellowship besides Boromir weren't particularly tempted. Gandalf even handled the Ring directly once.

Not immune, but a Hobbit. It's a common theme throughout that hobbits are made of tougher stuff because they like the "little things in life". Bilbo, Frodo, and even Sam all showed a common trait among hobbits, which I think is a little cheap in Tolkien's world. It takes away from their character a little bit, by making their entire race able to resist the ring better than all other races.

My interpretation is that, taking into account that hobbits have a natural immunity to the ring due to their simple nature and lack of ambition, this was the case with Sam but to an even greater degree, given that he was simple folk, a gardener and handyman.

Frodo and Bilbo were bourgeois hobbits, Sam was from a lower class. When the ring tempts him with visions of power, he starts imagining a great garden with lots of plants he can tend to so... the ring can't get to him due to his fundamental nature.

>He only handled it for less than a day.
Boromir had it for even less, he was even corrupted much before when he saw the Ring at the Council

Because he was a mary-sue.

boromir wanted the use the ring, so the ring was able to exploit his weakness easily

True. That says that to the least, what hobbits may have is a propensity and not a given, which was lacking in Smeagol due to something I'd call... greed? I think the point pretty much stands tho, maybe more so, if Tolkien/the LOTR movie crew meant to underline not a racial trait of hobbits, but merits of their simple lives and minds.

I love these threads by the way, I usually lurk 'em a lot, to read up on anons views on the books/movies. Keep 'em coming.

I think it's a shame they cut some of the scenes that fleshed out Boromir's character more so you knew how much pressure he was under
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The Gods gave him immunity and in return he has to raise a daughter.

The point in the story is that Hobbits have certain sensibilities that make them more capable of resisting the ring. The Ring usually amplifies the worst qualities of the bearer and though hobbits aren't strong and noble they do lack much evil.

Bilbo never uses it for evil, just to hide from his annoying cousins. Smeagol was already quite a sneaky bugger but he only turned to Gollum when he was shunned by his own kind.

The point is that Hobbits don't have the same vices or sins that Boromir, Aragorn, etc have.

Sam could resist it because Hobbits had a natural resistance. He didn't wear it long so he wasn't able to be warped by it. Frodo was fine for a while at first too.

>Hobbits had a natural resistance
why then did Smeagol get corrupted the second he saw the ring?

>Hobbits have a natural resistance
It may be fantasy but Tolkien didn't leave such important details to magic. He was strongly influenced by Christian theology and ideas of virtue and corruption etc

Frodo's cock was stronger than the One Ring.

God, Aragorn was such a cunt to Boromir until he died.

>"I would not come within a hundred leagues of your city. But I am the rightful king of it and plan on claiming that throne and all you little cock suckers are gonna have to suck it up. You aren't even Numenorean anymore, are you? Your grandpappy fucked one too many simpletons and Easterlings. You'll live to be what... 75? 80 years old? Christ, I'll outlive your grandchildren. I'll be fucking them too, Boromir. I'm going to fuck your grandkids. At least then they'll have some decent Westernesse genes back in that cesspool you call genes. You are pathetic. Oh, big Captain, slaying morgul rats by the boatload. I bet you run when you see your first Uruk or troll."

Does Jackson not know how to write a proper hero?

smeagol was an asshole. no matter the natural resistance of hobbits because they are simple "salt of the earth" types Tolkien doesn't make them all just NPCs who are copies of each other

Smeagol was able to shake its effects for months while being within arms reach of it, even though he possessed it for 800 years. I don't think that should go unnoticed.

deagol also fought for it

Memes aside Aragorn did project his fears on other men, he was a self-hating man if you will.

>Smeagol was able to shake its effects for months while being within arms reach of it
What? I thought it was pretty obvious Smeagol planned to take the Ring from Frodo from the start

>and how strong is gimli
Gimli is a badass, you just forget because they make him comic relief all the time

people with brains and the extended edition dont think is dumbass

The ring looked into Sam's mind, and said "You'd do gardening with my power? Get the fuck out of here. Where's that other faggot? Save his ass so I can get the fuck away from you, nigger."

if frodo was able to resist putting the ring on his finger just because it was around his neck, why didn't they encase the ring in diamond to make it easier?

He has a daughter, he cant be any more cucked, not even by sauron

gollum must've put it on his dick at least once

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He did, but Smeagol showed genuine change in character after Frodo was kind to him. I'm not saying Smeagol was an angel, but Men could barely touch it or see it without being corrupted. Elves were terrified of it or greatly lusted it like Galadriel. Dwarves can fuck off. I'm not sure when it was forged to when it was cut off Sauron's hand, but Gollum may have possessed the ring longer than anyone on the planet, and was able to not spaz out being near the ring for so long while leading Frodo.

He had constant monologues stressing his inner conflict between being loyal to Frodo or taking the ring (in the movies, idk about the books).

Golem was also a hobbit.

What are they gonna do, melt some diamonds? If any of the beings in Middle Earth could make diamonds like that, they wouldn't be fucking around with rings.

Real talk, why didn't they put the ring on an arrow with a lanyard attached, have Legolas fire the arrow as far as possible, then rinse/repeat until they make it to Mt Doom? Minimal contact with the ring that way.

He lacked ambition

Hobbits were somewhat resistant to the rings corruption because of their innocent and naive nature, they didnt lust power, they smoke weed and had feasts

Why not just build a big ass trebuchet, and launch the fucker from Rivendell?

They were a different type of hobbit from Frodo and Sam too remember, they lived on the great river and not in the Shire and were taller and more "man-like" breed, if my memory serves.

Yep, the Stoors. I think they saw the Misty Mountains and figured that to be a big pain in the ass to cross. I think they wore boots, too.

then what the fuck have dwarves been up to? encase it in fucking mithril.

oh definitely. like fucking satan

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I didn't remember and that makes you a liar

There is a disconnect here between the books and the movies. The Movies make out the Sam-Frodo relationship to be a "best buds" situation. In the books, Sam is more like Frodo's butler. The movies clearly didn't want to include that because servants are "bad" in modern people's eyes. But the reason Sam isn't corrupted is because he has the heart of an honest and loyal servant. He is the model of the suffering servant. Even Tolkien commented on how pure and special Sam's character is but the movies altered it and the depth of his character was lost in the process.

that could make for a fun remake movie.

Because he had no reasonable means of escape with it. Legolas would've shot him in the back of the neck before he made it 10 feet in that snow. It's not honorable to give it up if he had no way of escaping with it

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This never gets old

Balrogs block your way. Pretty sure Tolkien said in the book the only source of it left was in Moria. It was pretty fucking rare. And that there were few left who remembered how to work with it.

Gotta be a trebuchet.

Basically, he just doesn't have much ambition. The Ring tries to tempt him with some ideal world of his creation and the best it can do is making him the King of All Gardeners, which Sam finds so gay that he relinquishes the ring like it's a condom full of pozz.

Why not cast the ring in lead and make it a pendant instead of a ring so no one could wear it and the magic radiation could not escape and infect the party
.

Whats this 1999? gb2sa

>he realized it was too late to use the catapult

>'Where am I, and what is the time?" he said aloud to the ceiling.
>"In the House of Elrond, and it is ten o'clock in the morning." said a voice. "It is the morning of October the twenty-fourth, if you want to know.'"
uhh what the shit?

And then later corners Frodo alone.

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Because he did eventually succumb to the temptation. Sam is still the only one who could resist it's power completely. Boromir made it right in the end but he still fell for its power

why didn't bill the pony bear the ring? what's more pure than an animal? he knows the way home.

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what if it was all a ruse?

actually now that you mention it, why the fuck didn't Gandalf just ride Shadowfax to Mordor?

mm yes a gif featuring movies from 2003 in 1999, you really got him

I bet you're a female.

This, the Frodo-Sam relationship was at least in part inspired by the junior officer-batman relationship Tolkien would have experienced in the Great War.

Then Tolkien would have to have been an unreliable narrator, because he goes into depth about the inner change in Smeagol, and how it is undone later.

What's with the blue filter?

War crimes are not real
I'm going to keep telling you retards this until the ens
d of time

Have sex

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Everyone else knew how dangerous the ring was. The only other member of the fellowship ignorant to its effects was Gimli, but dwarves are somewhat immune to the rings power.

To elaborate on my answer: the books make it very clear that the circumstance by which you come into possession of the ring are enormously important to how heavily the ring corrupts you. Isildur takes the ring but never really resolves to destroy it, so it ends up killing him. Gollum is entirely transformed by the ring because he wanted the ring so badly he murderd his own brother and took it from his cold dead hands. Gandalf comments that Bilbo is able to withstand the corruption of the ring for so long because he took the ring from Gollum with "pity" for Gollum in his heart. Frodo is able to take the ring all the way to Mordor because he only takes the ring because he must and for the sole purpose of destroying it. Even then the ring corrupts him at the very end.
But Sam takes the ring for the sole purpose of saving and *serving* Frodo (by saving his hobbit ass) and all this only so it may be destroyed. Because of this the ring has very little power over him.

the ring is bullshit and wouldn't put up with that shit, it'd get swallowed by a bird just so it could end up with a hunter instead of some asshole that'd come up with such a dumb plan
frodo always having it keeps it from doing that shit, as much

>Sam is the only person to possess, wear, and give up ring with no lasting longing for it.
TOM BOM!
JOLLY TOM!

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Based Tom Poster.

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The Morannon and Minas Morgul are the only ways in. If you go to the east you'd be fucked because Sauron wasn't even close to marshaling all the forces of the east. The armies of the east and south you see in the books and movies were only the first wave.

That gif is older than most people posting on Yea Forums right now.
All you need is lil cheetus, SPR, and WWII as told through social media to fill out the grandpafag folder.

>quite possibly the most powerful being in the whole Middle Earth
>sits on his ass all day
What's his fucking problem?

Boromir's will was actually pretty strong, but it got weaker the closer they got to Mordor.

he's literally me.

He had river pussy to eat, and no fucks left to give.

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His weakness was orc boipussy.

They said that the blood of numenor flowed true through denethor and his sons. Boromir inherited his size and strength from his father while faramir was the one blessed with wisdom and inner sight.

Gloves+only touched the chain

Ring dindu nuffin to him

Why didn't everyone just always wear mittens so they wouldn't be able to put the ring on?

*blocks your paeth*

clothing is a part of your body, like when clothes also become invisible when you put the ring on

give me your ring frodo, hee hee

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There was a passage many of the other anons mentioned where the ring did tempt Sam with the idea of making all of Mordor a beautiful garden all to himself, but because of his simple nature and Hobbit common sense, he realized the very idea would be ridiculous as he would have to spend all that time trying to prune it and grow it. Then he thought that he would be content with a little garden that was big enough for his own two hands to work on, and then remembered he needed to get the Ring to help Frodo, and its temptation waned on him as he figured the ring's power would do no good to help Frodo.

Sam was basically seeing through the delusions of grandeur from his grounded sense of reality, thanks to his simple life style and humility from serving others.

Shire boys make do

>all these replies for an old ass movie from 16 years ago

>tfw you realize Sam's ultimate reward was to return to the shire, and in repairing the damage of Saruman, ends up turning the entire shire into his own personal garden and is unanimously elected mayor for life

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JOLLY HO, TOM BOMBADIL, TOM BOMBADILLO !!!!!
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One thing I never understood. The Ring apparently wants to be found by Sauron, but on the other hand anyone who comes across it wants to keep it for themselves, e.g, Gollum and Bilbo. How the fuck does that make any sense? We never see the ring doing anything to get closer to his master. If it wasnt for Frodo actually taking it to Mordor, Sauron would probably never have found it.

But the ring wouldn't fit around the mittens. Unless you put it on the thumb, but who wears a ring on their thumb?

Because if someone gets the ring, they're going to use it. The more powerful they are the more likely them using the ring will cause more harm than good, and get the ring that much closer to sauron.

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the more people use it the easier it is for the bitchboy wraiths to find

Frodo took it to Sauron and put it on, which would've most likely resulted in Sauron acquiring the ring if Gollum didn't fuck it up (or Ilúvatar).

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This is an interesting point. Do hobbits have fat fingers like IRL dwarves? How does a ring Sauron made for his finger fit on a tiny hobbit finger?

Tolkien was obviously a hack.

If Iluvatar made gollum fall into the lava why didn't he just do that to Isildur and save everyone a lot of trouble?

>iluvatar

wha

>16 years is old

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Difference between showing up and knocking a Numenorean king over and blowing on an unstable nutcase dancing on a precipice.
When you do something right people won't realize you've down anything at all

That's literally one of the most famous shots in the entire series. No one's forgotten.

So we're actually talking about Manwe, then?

It's funny because a lot of my friends have found we all saw him as a bad guy when we were kids and it wasn't until we watched it again in college that realized he was a tragic character. We were floored that we never realized it. In a way, it's kind of what makes Boromir such a powerful character.

Why didn't Frodo tuck it in his boipussy?

>Brian Blessed never got to play Tom Bombadil.
>Feelsbadman.bmp

tolkien said that the overgod intervened and made Gollum trip and fall into the lava.

>intervened
It's literally the third theme of creation.

The hobbits were created before the ring. It started as a children's story about the value in the small and overlooked characters of the world. The ring was only a magic item at the time. It wasn't until Tolkien started to expand on his Middle Earth universe that he realized the potential for the ring.

Because he practiced permaculture farming and had a preference for thicc fertile redheads, making him the highest caliber of all the creatures of middle earth

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What would it do for you if you held the ring?

bout time he got off his ass.

Isildur took the scenic route, so all he could do is push him into a swamp.

The ring changes to adapt the hand that wears it.

Humanity in general tend to see "good" people who do "bad" things as bad people whose goodness was just a disguise, rather than a good person who sometimes has to do bad things, people people can only see in black and white

put it on an ant and it becomes almost invisible

Because people*

15/15 indestructible for 8 is crazy.
CRAZY I SAY

poor old bill

Ehem I'm going to say it

Fuck Boromir. And fuck the orcs.

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an insatiable lust for cunny

Theres three kind of hobbits thought, stoors are more like men

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Through Rohan over fen and field where the long grass grows
The West Wind comes walking, and about the walls it goes.
‘What news from the West, O wandering wind, do you bring to me tonight?
Have you seen Boromir the Tall by moon or by starlight?
‘I saw him ride over seven streams, over waters wide and grey,
I saw him walk in empty lands until he passed away
Into the shadows of the North, I saw him then no more.
The North Wind may have heard the horn of the son of Denethor,
‘O Boromir! From the high walls westward I looked afar,
But you came not from the empty lands where no men are.’

Then Legolas sang:
From the mouths of the Sea the South Wind flies, from the sandhills and the stones,
The wailing of the gulls it bears, and at the gate it moans.
‘What news from the South, O sighing wind, do you bring to me at eve?
Where now is Boromir the Fair? He tarries and I grieve.
‘Ask not of me where he doth dwell – so many bones there lie,
On the white shores and the dark shores under the stormy sky,
So many have passed down Anduin to find the flowing Sea.
Ask of the North Wind news of them the North Wind sends to me!’
‘O Boromir! Beyond the gate the seaward roads runs south,
But you came not with the wailing gulls from the grey sea’s mouth’.

Then Aragorn sang again:
From the Gate of the Kings the North Wind rides, and past the roaring falls,
And clear and cold about the tower its loud horn calls.
‘What news from the North, O mighty wind, do you bring to me today?
What news of Boromir the bold? For he is long away.’
‘Beneath Amon Hen I heard his cry. There many foes he fought,
His cloven shield, his broken sword, they to the water brought.
His head so proud, his face so fair, his limbs they laid to rest,
And Rauros, golden Rauros-falls, bore him upon its breast.
‘O Boromir! The Tower of Guard shall ever northward gaze,
To Rauros, golden Rauros-falls, until the end of days.

Anyone who thinks they could do better is fooling themselves. An oncologist would see in the ring himself curing cancer and a pacifist would see himself ending all wars. The people who think Boromir is scheming in that moment have not seriously thought about the ring and how it tempts you. The truth is he was never anything but a hero but one whose moral compass was not transcendent enough.

Using it literally calls the attention of ringwraiths and sauron, they just weren’t powerful enough or actively looking for it when Gollum/bilbo had it. The ring is also a part of sauron, it literally IS sauron so self preservation (extended life) or Using the “host” to corrupt with saurons evil is nearly as good as getting it back to the other part of saurons essence anyway, Gollum would have eventually become a wraith himself same with Frodo. The ring also manipulated people in subtle ways, having it corrupt people to have a desire for it over anything else prevents it from ever falling into a river for thousands of years again and literally moving from Gollum to bilbo to Frodo DID bring it to Mordor and almost back to its master, it’s just playing a subtle long game to get there.

>be god
>trip people

underrated

Boromir’s fatal flaw was that he never really understood or believed that the Ring could only be used for evil.

That is not strictly true. The ring empowers you if you are powerful but also corrupts you over time.

Cause it'd get lost you fucking idiot have you ever shot an arrow?

If the Ring wants to get lost after being fired by arrow into the distance, it WILL get lost.

So we need something bigger to get the job done with less chance of the ring escaping or getting lost. Some kind of throwing device.

No shit, that was literally why Gandalf chose Frodo to begin with you retard

He was a nigger hobbit

>Their entire race
>Gollum
Yeah whatever fag

For you

Why didn't they put it up their butt? It's not like the ringwraiths are gonna look there

You're forgetting that Tolkien races are basically supposed to be paragons of certain human personality types and less wholly realistic races of people. Like when people talk about the morality of slaughtering Orcs. It's immaterial. Orcs are evil.
Obviously there's some wiggle room allowing for characterization but the point still stands.

It's stuff like this that makes me real fearful of what the Amazon tv show is going to do. The writers won't care about stuff like this.

because most people are women or children

based reasonable and inquisitive poster

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WRONG FAGGOT. The ring chooses who to tempt and where. Forcefully tempting a man in the middle of a snowfield with lethal opponents surrounding him is not a wise temptation.

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Do they ever say what kind of creatures lurk in the sea?

The Ring didnt want him

Could Feanor take Sauron 1v1?

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Because it couldn't hold much sway over him.
These things aren't mutually exclusive.

No. He was a river folk "not too different" from hobbits.

Lack of ambition and lack of unreachable desires. Hi probably had a big dick so what would the ring offer for him? He knew he can just live peacefully and make a family without concerns.

I was 13 when I read the book and watched the film and Boromir was my favorite character.

He forgot to replace it with Winterfylleo.

POTTERY

Reminder that eru didn't literally intercede and magically push Gollum into mt doom, but rather willed it to be so and weaved it into his song.

The distinction is important because modern protestantism in America makes you think of a god that physically and personally intervenes, while Tolkien was a Catholic and its therefore much more a commentary on fate and predestination.

This. It's the same thing with Chads and incels.
>Oh, incel had a bad day and was mean to me even though he was nice before! All incels are shit people on the inside!
>Mmmm Chad is an asshole to me all the time but today he is unusually kind! He is a sweetie deep inside! ugu~

Sounds to me like the power of his homo love for Frodo overcame the ring.

That's the first place a ringwraith looks

Why didn't they make an eagle wear the ring?

Hobbits are like the ideal people, living harmoniously and stably. Men are erratic and desireful, concerned with industrial notions of power and progress. Just as we are today but even more so. Capable of great things to be sure, but easy pawns of the ring. Sam was the ideal of the ideal, I suppose.

He wasn't an overweening jackass like Isildur, a neurotic weirdo like Smeagol, a shiftless criminal like Master Bilbo or a tragic hero like poor Master Frodo. He was a simple hobbit with the simple desire to stay at home and plow his fields and one day graduate to plowing a wife as well.

People don't want to face the darkness in their own hearts so of course they dislike someone who is as Human as Boromir. It can't be because he's driven to desperation to save his homeland from destruction, no he has to be evil.
Most humans when put in the same position would do the same.

If Sauron had a silmaril on him he probably could out of sheer anger. Though his tard rage would also make him spontaneously combust so it would be a draw.

Considering Sauron got his ass handed to him by a dog, yes.

Why didn’t the eagles simply waterbomb Sauron’s eye with cold water?

I bet that would piss him off.

In one of King's Bounty games there was a character that thoroughly lathered himself with soap before going to hunt beholders.

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How high is his powerlevel? Is eru scared of him?

>why did aragorn commit a war crime
He thought he might win.

>what I wanna know is why do most treat him as a bad guy who redeemed himself rather than a guy who was almost exclusively a hero throughout
because when they first met he acted greedy and wanted to use the ring, despite everyone wanting to destroy it? Did you even watch the movie ?

>which I think is a little cheap in Tolkien's world. It takes away from their character a little bit, by making their entire race able to resist the ring better than all other races.
It was the long-game played by Eru.

>hm yes humans really are an odd specimen when you think about it
fuck off