I think MJ is guilty of molestation but one thing this whole Leaving Neverland thing has done is made me rediscover his...

A single testimony that wasn't filled with lies proven in court and was filed as a criminal case, not a civil case would probably convince me.

>lies proven in court
>he trusts coached witness testimony from minors
>filed as a criminal case, not a civil case
The manner in which an accusation is filed does not change its substance. I will grant that his accusers want money but that doesn't mean the things they're saying aren't true. The truth is you're just incredibly biased and will use whatever excuses you can to avoid confronting the truth.

why is it a NECESSITY for you accusers for jackson to be guilty? not like hes gonna go to jail even if was true (it isnt. he dead)

Why did James Safechuck and Wade Robson accused him but never Brett Barnes or Macaulay Culkin? They all hanged around him just as much.

>why is it a NECESSITY for you accusers for jackson to be guilty?
Why is it a necessity for his defenders that he be innocent?

Most likely explanation is he didn't diddle every single kid he was friends with, this is smart as it gives him reliable defenders like Culkin has been

I have absolutely no bias towards this subject, I'm just really intelligent and I don't fall for post-truth propaganda.
Name me a single reason why you'd consider that "the truth".

Except Robson directly stated that Michael ran the most sophisticated kiddie fucking operation in history.
They also named Barnes and Culkin as their replacements when they supposedly got "too old".

>Michael Jackson has openly admitted to and defended sleeping with underaged boys
>5 of these boys have accused Michael Jackson of sexually abusing them
>The hallway leading to Michael Jackson's bedroom was wired for sound
>Michael Jackson befriended many underaged boys throughout his career and often held their hands in public. His relationships with these boys grew more distant as they began to mature sexually, ie hit puberty
>James Safechuck said Michael Jackson bought him a wedding ring in 1994 and there is video of Safechuck and Jackson in a jewelry store in 1994, both in disguise
>Even while still defending Jackson Safechuck admitted that he kissed him on the lips
>Jordan Chandler knew of the existence of strange marks on Michael Jackson's penis that would likely only be visible if it were erect. Say what you want about how accurate the shape of the marks were or details about Jackson's non-circumcision but he knew that a mark was there
>Michael Jackson built an entire theme park that would be extremely attractive to children and invited their families for long stays
>Michael Jackson possessed so-called "art books" that contained uncomfortably provocative photographs of nude underaged boys
>Cory Feldman, formerly one of Jackson's most ardent defenders, refuses to defend him any longer since the airing of the documentary
>Unconfirmed reports suggest that Paris Jackson attempted suicide shortly after Leaving Neverland and she has stated publicly that it is "not her role" to defend her father
Individually, sure. None of these conclusively demonstrate Jackson's guilt. Put them together and you get a pattern that you would have to be willfully blind to ignore.

It was pretty clear from the doc that he was speculating, he never claimed to have direct confirmation that any other kid was being diddled.

I've been listening to all MJ albums.
I'm on BAD at the moment.

>*a hee hee off in the distance starts getting closer*

he is innocent. he was never sentenced

>normies ranting and raving about how MJ was a pedophile
>happily walk into the theater and choke down hollywood garbage produced by notorious pedophiles and child abusers
Just another day on planet Earth.

>Jew me, sue me, everybody do me
>Kick me, kike me
>Don't you black or white me.
ALL I WANT TO SAY IS THEY DON'T REALLY CARE ABOUT US

>everybody do me
Bold choice to place quotes from his Neverland slumber parties into a song

>Michael Jackson was a pedophile!
>Why yes Guardians of the Galaxy is my favorite movie

Based and heeheepilled

DAMN IT Yea Forums!
It wasn't MJ. It was white MJ a necromantic doppleganger golem created by the Jews made from discarded foreskins.
The white MJ golem molested young males in a sad attempt to reunite with the penises it had been severed from by vile Kike sorcery.

Love /x/.

>jokes on Twatter are the same as having multiple actual allegations of child sexual abuse against you
The absolute state of hee hee fags

youtube.com/watch?v=atuFSv2bLa8

haha is just a joke bro lmao

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>>Michael Jackson has openly admitted to and defended sleeping with underaged boys
And girls and the rest of their families.
of these boys have accused Michael Jackson of sexually abusing them
Actually none of the 4 accusers slept in the same bed as Michael and they never claimed to. They slept in the same bedroom and sometimes in his bed while he slept in the floor.
>>The hallway leading to Michael Jackson's bedroom was wired for sound
Yes, after the 93 accusation.
>>Michael Jackson befriended many underaged boys throughout his career and often held their hands in public. His relationships with these boys grew more distant as they began to mature sexually, ie hit puberty
Actually all the accusers' parents kept contacting Jackson and trying to force a connection, which he mostly ignored. Wade was heavily ignored as his mom continued to mail Jackson about his progress as a dancer. Most of the times they went to Neverland Jackson wasn't there. This constant approaching with clear financial interest was what made distance himself, like Evan Chandler always trying to get screenwriting propping. This was a well known trait from Jackson which even his wife was submitted to, calling it "icing you out". Regardless, he also had many young girl friends who also walked hand in hand, and there's plenty of those who remained in contact after growing up. In fact, there are pictures of Safechuck hanging out with him after growing up, when he claimed he never saw him again.

....Yes, it is. A joke repeated to the point that it becomes weird and unfunny, sure, but still, nothing more than a joke. The fact that you're unironically trying to compare Gunn to MJ reveals just how deep your mental illness runs

>Actually none of the 4 accusers slept in the same bed as Michael
I never said otherwise and this isn't required for him to abuse them.
>Yes, after the 93 accusation.
If anything this points even harder at his guilt, he realized that he was under closer scrutiny after the accusation and wanted to make sure his bases were covered.
>mostly ignored
This is just a flat-out lie. These relationships at their peaks were deep and obsessive, if there's one thing Leaving Neverland actually does document it is that.

A fat guy I know who was a virgin for 30 years until he finally got a girlfriend who weights 400 lbs and became an insufferable woke reddit drone told me he was excited that James Gunn was coming back to finish his Marvel abomination trilogy. I mentioned that he was a pedophile and his brain shutdown and he called me an incel even though I've had multiple sexual partners in the time he's known me. It was incredible to see an actual person melt down like that. I thought people like that were just trolls on Yea Forums.

>James Gunn Endorses Pedophilia in 10,000 Deleted Tweets
Just a joke bro haha
Just 10,000 jokes!

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I'm not seeing any actual evidence that any of this is serious. Are you really not seeing the cognitive dissonance between believing Gunn is a peodphile on the basis of this "evidence" and NOT believing MJ is? Holy shit, dude.

based jacko got away with it
>its black its white
i think he was tlking about his dick

>James Safechuck said Michael Jackson bought him a wedding ring in 1994 and there is video of Safechuck and Jackson in a jewelry store in 1994, both in disguise
Not even the same person. This was Safechuck in 1993.
>Even while still defending Jackson Safechuck admitted that he kissed him on the lips
Never said that before his suit.
>Jordan Chandler knew of the existence of strange marks on Michael Jackson's penis that would likely only be visible if it were erect. Say what you want about how accurate the shape of the marks were or details about Jackson's non-circumcision but he knew that a mark was there
His descriptions were so inaccurate that the prosecution decided to not even use them as evidence.
>Michael Jackson built an entire theme park that would be extremely attractive to children and invited their families for long stays
Almost the opposite of what a pedophile would do.
>Michael Jackson possessed so-called "art books" that contained uncomfortably provocative photographs of nude underaged boys
Two books between over 10 thousand others who weren't even acquired by him.
>Cory Feldman, formerly one of Jackson's most ardent defenders, refuses to defend him any longer since the airing of the documentary
He said he wouldn't defend Michael on something he can't know for sure but did not retract his previous defenses and retained that he was a figure of great importance in dealing with actual molestation.
>Unconfirmed reports suggest that Paris Jackson attempted suicide shortly after Leaving Neverland and she has stated publicly that it is "not her role" to defend her father
She didn't, she tweeted an emoji rolling his eyes right after the news and she's looking into legal options for her image being used and for Dan Reed having edited out her presence as an alibi in one of the segments to make Wade seem more credible.

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>but still, nothing more than a joke

I hope the irony isn't lost on you, retard.

>its just repeated jokes on twitter about sexualizing children bro that doesnt mean hes actually a pedophile who probably abuses kids in real life

kek you are such a tool

>Not even the same person.
Went back and checked. It was '89.
>Never said that before his suit
Wrong.
>His descriptions were so inaccurate
The fact that he knew the vitiligo marks were on his penis is undisputed.
>Almost the opposite of what a pedophile would do
This is trolling, right? Literally a rich man's version of a candy van.
>Two books
Two too many for a normal person.
>but did not retract his previous defenses
Never said he did and wasn't my point.
>She didn't
Her denial does not disprove the report.

Lmao i wrote this post in a random thread last week. Why would someone save it?

Nop. Everything you see in Leaving Neverland has been shown by several dozens of former Michael acquaintances to be his normal behavior (normal for a fucked in the head billionaire, at least).
They have been posting their interactions and the notes Michael would leave them since the release, and he displays the exact same behavior in all of them. Extremely infantile, extremely passionate and overusing the word "love" and other excessively affectionate terms. Even Weird Al has posted his.
There was absolutely nothing unique, exclusive or disproportionate in Safechuck and Robson's relationship with him.
In fact, he wasn't even that close to them by Jackson standards. He would let the Culkin boys and their sister sleep in the same bed as him but not any of those.

My friend, it seems you're entire argument is "Jackson was fucking weirdo". Yeah, no one is disputing that. He was paranoid, infantile, emotionally undeveloped, absurdly self conscious and insecure, way too affectionate to literally anyone, a recluse, obsessive compulsive and a massive hoarder.
You're taking a giant leap into a conclusion that isn't supported by anything else aside from this weirdness.

your*

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whenever i look at his face in these pictures now i just think wow, he can still taste that kids asshole cant he

t.pedo

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Hard evidence as opposed to televised hearsay for once. This is the same old shit that he was tried and cleared for twice. The implications of their claims in the doc would mean they liked under oath in the first place. They've placed themselves in an impossible situation. Either they are guilty of perjury and will go to jail, or they're just liars, and will get their asses sued by the Jackson estate.

Some user post the archive to the site with all the shit wrong with Wade's story

Okay MJbros, I have this distinct memory of hearing this really nice slow version of PYT that’s definitely NOT the PYT on Thriller. Hell, I don’t even think the lyrics are the same (but the phrase “pretty young thing” was definitely in the slow song). Can anyone help me out?

Were his music videos kino, though?

youtube.com/watch?v=h_D3VFfhvs4

Noir vibes.

anniayuwoki

Based Victor Gutierrez in this thread

Wade Robson in 2005
>be rich, famous,and at the top of your career
>literally no reason at all to lie
>defended Michael

Wade Robson in 2013
>broke, faded into obscurity, failed marriage, failing career, suffer multiple nervous breakdowns
>literally every reason to lie
>defended Michael UNTIL they denied him work.
Why would you ever believe this garbage?

Dude's determined.

b-but his memories are evolving!!

Found it. Was the demo for PYT that never got a proper recording. Shame as it was better than the cut that made Thriller.

you can easily tell those assholes made that shit dcumentary for money

EL HEE HEE

If you let someone lick your asshole then it becomes consensual no matter the age

>rapes your kid
hee hee

His music isn’t good. It’s just brand loyalty and shock rock.

Baller dancer though fuck

why else would Netflix make anything?

are you fucking retarded or something?

he fucking dabs at 8:23

ok name one other guy who invites little boys to sleep in his bedroom with him and lives in a fantasy land for children

Dan Schneider

shamone

Here's a better documentary with footage and evidence used for the court cases
youtube.com/watch?v=llLQEi4NMxI

>blocked in your country
guilty

based

you live in a shithole

Unironically great doc. Made by a guy involved with the courtroom

You got shillscooped, you are becoming an NPC if you genuinely thought it was a good post.

CHICKACHICKACHAMONE

Why are Micheal Jackson fans so retarded? You do realise how retarded you look "defending your hero"?
He literally invited little boys to sleep with him, he's a pedo, go fuck yourself please you chromosome lacking sycophantic creep.

This

Innocent until proven guilty kek

Take away my money
Throw away my time
You can call me honey
BUT YOU'RE NO DAMN GOOD FOR ME

heehee

guilty
of not giving a fuck

The Ayuwoki dindu nothin

fpbp

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youtu.be/3w75_OUcRXs?list=RD3w75_OUcRXs

youtu.be/X5-diMFvB4g?list=RDX5-diMFvB4g

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this user is right

Off The Wall is a fucking incredible record

Dunno if he was guilty. On the one hand, you have the kid who came out and said it was all a lien to get money, you have the treatment of MJ's father, but then on the other hand, you have a massive list of really weird evidence found in MJ's home that makes it hard to argue that he wasn't more than just a little bit of a pedo. He may not have abused these kids, but he definitely harbored some strange tendencies, which may even be understandable after what his father put him through, so I dunno. I like to think he was innocent.

*Objectively, he was probably a closeted pedo, but he wasn't a predator.

better version btw
youtube.com/watch?v=4CiuK_Ru3HA

>jokes

blocked in canada lad

>its ok if my guy is a disgusting pedophile

The whole documentary is just stories and speculation. people are so easily manipulated

>implying a black guy could ever get away with child molestation
>white child molestation

come on now

The only really damning evidence against him IMO is that they found the 2004 accuser's fingerprints on some pages of his porno mags

Really that's the ones you go with? Not "who is it", dirty Diana, scream, they don't care about us or man in the mirror?

was in japan this week. They dont give af about leaving neverland and still praise MJ as the goat he is. based

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>people think dressing and looking like this is normal
lmao

Tell them that he was against whale & dolphin hunting and that he thinks that what happened Nanking was one of the worst displays of human cruelty know to man. See how they react.

get a vpn and set it to somewhere in usa. works for me

The kid could have found them on his own without MJ's permission. If I found porno mags as a 10yo I would sneak a peek at them every chance I could

>What about the books that feature naked prepubescent boys found at the Neverland ranch?
It's totally normal! It is legal, not illegal pornography!
>What about the pornography books found with two children's fingerprints on them?
No pedo would look at normal porn! The fingerprints were planted!
>What about the alarm functions leading to Michael's bedroom where he would sleep with young boys that would alert of him if someone was coming
Totally normal. Why cannot man have some privacy in this day and age?
>What about the testimonial of LaToya Jackson that Michael Jackson was, in fact, a pedophile
She cannot be trusted, she was a black sheep of the family.
>What about 5 boys coming forward, some of them after Michael's dead, that affirm that yes: Michael Jackson molsted them
They are all in for the money! They want to suck him dry! They want to ruin his legacy
>What about what about
et cetera ad infinitum. there is no way he was a child molester, a man who commissioned paintings like this would never ever touch a child.

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>1993 Christmas at Neverland
>Surrounded by piles and piles of gifts
>Kids screeching and women chattering away
>Michael still seems like an outcast, awkward, uncomfortable, mumbling half-finished sentences, the loneliest man in the world surrounded by the utter epitome of wealth and luxury

Whether he molested kids or not MJ's life feels undeniably tragic.

youtube.com/watch?v=f3WthvdW2xk

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Yes all that with no evidence or
>carefully crafted stories that are designed to mine diamonds from a multi billion dollar vein
>coordinated media attack, most people understand it is not organic by now

I think these are all warnings not to get out of line
>Cosby supposedly buying network?? Ruined by ‘testimony’ of course he fucked women during a time everyone was taking qualooods, duh wolf of Wall Street
>Lori Laughlin, an Irish white taking the full force of college admissions scandals— now if anyone says anyone about Harvard being like 80% Jewish and 6% European white—immediately deflected
>pewdiepie is not big enough to be ruined ala Michael Jackson
They do it on purpose