Am I supposed to believe he isn't the Thing at the end of the movie?

He is the black thing

I choose to believe Childs is the Thing being tricked into drinking gas however wouldn't the Thing know what gas smells and taste like since Mac was using it on him?

maybe he knew it was gas but thought If I notice he will kill me

Whiskey burns too, y'know, it might just think they used whiskeys to burn it earlier

people saying that there needs to be any clear answer to this is a red flag that you're talking to an amerifat brainlet who can't comprehend the underlying themes of the film

He wanted it to be ultimately ambiguous however the continuity in the movie is absolutely on a higher level than films, mostly because it took so long to make.

Unspoken in the movie, continuity in outfits can determine who is and isn't the thing. Likewise all of the alcohol in the place was turned into a Molotov cocktail with gasoline. Charles drinks it, combined with his suspicious behavior it's clear he's the thing.

Why would Macready try to drink gasoline? Idk, maybe I guess he would want to pass out and freeze instead of being conscious for a while

This is the only thing I will ever believe. It’s better that way. Reminds me of pic related.

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UNLESS ONE OR BOTH OF THEM IS THE THING

this is the dumbest thing i've read all day

This. Thing is a nigh perfect mimicry. I dunno why this theory has not gone up in flames.

Maybe the real thing were the friends we made along the way.

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>it's clear he's the thing.
you are literally a retard

he didn't try to drink gasoline what are you talking about

What was he doing with the bottle then? He just wanted to remember what gas smelled like?

What about Mcready's blood never being tested.

He tested his own blood first...

he was already making molotovs and when he had a spare probably thought it would come in handy

The Thing's "nigh perfect mimicry" is suspect all movie. It already turned into a dog, why the fuck would it try to assimilate all the rest of the dogs at once? Why does it sometimes take 1 second to assimilate and why does it sometimes take much longer?

Why did he have it open, and looking like he was gonna chug it?

Put that hyphen down!!! … … … It's for closers.

woo boy
guess it's time to crack out this boomer autist:

youtube.com/watch?v=30OW_EUX33I
youtube.com/watch?v=u84EQVI8C0A
youtube.com/watch?v=dP74Ic1k_bk

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For a moment, disregard the contents of the bottle.

The ambiguous idea is that Mac thinks Charles is the Thing, and Charles thinks Mac is the thing right? So why would Charles physically touch anything Mac has touched, let alone drink out of a bottle it assumed Mac was drinking out of. Had mac been the thing Charles would have become infected, defying the whole point of the stand off.

Except he wouldn't have become infected. We see in the prequel that a thing cell attaches to a human cell, and then imitates it. There couldn't be enough cells on the bottle lip to do anything to Childs.

It couldn't assimilate one dog without stirring the others. It attempted dog assimilation when it thought everyone was asleep and its targets were in an enclosed space. If it had succeeded, cue credits.

As for assimilation, I don't recall an instance where it assimilated another within 24 seconds, let alone one. Throw me a bone.

>We see in the prequel...

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how are we supposed to know macready isn't the thing

>We see in the prequel
Disregarded

>blood test was negative
>fight till the end to kill the blair-thing

he coulda been infected on the way back

I was thinking the same thing, I wouldn't count the prequel as something useful for a theory like this.

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Considering how short that period of time appears, it's more likely that Child got infected at some point while off-camera.

The problem with the gasoline theory is that the Thing has demonstrated that it can be dormant until intentionally triggered out via some form of discovery. It's never explicitly shown in the film whether the Thing is acting when it assumes an identity or if that person's consciousness is still active.

>The Thing can perfectly replicate memories, personalities, and physical traits, bbut it can't tell that it's drinking gasoline.
I believe Childs is the Thing, but the gas reasoning is retarded. Look at the scene right before we see Childs run outside. The camera starts on the basement door, then it slowly pans up to reveal Childs missing from his post. The next scene, Childs runs outside. He says he saw Blaire despite the fact that we know he was not watching the door before going out. We also find out that Blair was lurking around the generator room in the basement.

Childs likely heard Blair in the generator room, then got assimilated. He then left the building to ensure his survival of everything went to hell, but stayed close enough that he could return if Blair-Thing won.

They are drinking oil at the end. Look at the bottle

If I recall correctly he's about to take a sip of it before Childs shows up. Why would MacCready drink gasoline himself?

He isn't a Thing because he still has an earring in his ear

The Thing could just put the earring back in mate.

because they need one of them in the wreckage for it to be believable

The gasoline theory I've never heard of before so kudos, but ya'll are forgetting that Childs' breath isnt visible, while MacReady's is. Childs is the Thing.

Finally saw this movie last night. Seem'd pretty clear to me that neither was The Thing, but I guess it doesn't matter since both will be dead soon anyways if their still human.

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Nothing to back this argument up in the movie, so... plot hole.

In the PS2 game, which John Carpenter himself claims is canon. In the game, you can find the frozen corpse of Childs in the shed. MacReady somehow survived and appears alive in the game to help the player and the rest of the team. This seems to imply Childs was human but he could very well be a dormant Thing. The game never answers this. But it does beg the question how Macready survived in the same situation where Childs died ( and again, the game never answers this)

It is visible, just hard to see due to the lighting. Also, the Thing is a perfect replica. It would still have breath that's visible, which is confirmed by Bennings-Thing earlier.

Childs might have just frozen to death before Macready. Not like both would die at the same time.

Because he dies later on in the video game. Which is the canon sequel.

The rescue team arrived days later, not hours later. It’s not like they find Macready right away either. Childs has been dead for some time due to exposure. I’m not saying they would have died exactly at the same time but it wouldn’t have been that far apart

It doesn't matter.

Oh, well days later Macready should be dead as well but I guess plot armor kept him warm

Don't bring up the fucking video game because it is definitely not canon and also very bad writing and design. Might as well be asking how the government was involved from the get go, which was retarded plot insert.

THIS

Is it true that Carpenter angered the Hollyjews and that's why the movie got so many bad reviews? How can you watch this masterpiece of sci-fi horror and think its bad?

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Where did the "even if The Thing touches you, you are going to be assimilated" stuff come from?
Blair says it replicates on a cellular level but that doesn't mean if you get a cell of it on you then it will eventually take over your entire body.
We only see one assimilation, Benning, and it's a super traumatic event which goes with the part about the clothes being ripped to pieces.
Unless I'm remembering wrong, Childs is dressed the same as when we last see him. He isn't a Thing.

We HAVE to bring it up, as shitty as it may be, because Carpenter said its the official sequel . It’s advertised on the fucking game case

It came out weeks after ET and no one wanted to see evil aliens, not everything is a conspiracy.

>How can you watch this masterpiece of sci-fi horror and think its bad?
by being jewish
they hate everything good

Da jooz! Its always (((them)))!
As bad as niggers chimping about white privilege!

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yeah so I'm just finding out that this was considered a horrible movie when it came out

I thought people have generally become more retarded throughout my life, but I guess I just started noticing it more and more

He wasn't trying to drink it. He wasn't preparing to drink or do anything, he'd just collapsed in exhaustion with the blanket before Childs walked in. Why he had it, I'd say it calls back to a previous moment, where Fukes burned himself before the Thing could get to him. He wanted to be prepared just in case he didn't kill all of it.

I'm in the camp that says Childs is the Thing. There's more that says otherwise than that let me believe he's human

That was a retroactive rule added to the shitty prequel. No such rule was shown or stated in John Carpenter's film.

I think it was intended canon, but I don't consider it canon. They have technology that is way more advanced than accessable in the early-mid 80's, and no explanation as to how or why. There's also plenty of holes within its own right, like how they treat it like monsters that "infect" people but they're actually supposed to completely absorb and mimic people.

>"Now I'll show you what I already know."
>squeak
>simmer

if either of them was the thing, why wouldnt it just kill the other one? neither were the thing

Easy to miss it, but when the team go out to test Blair we see Childs standing by the door, and next to him are a bunch of coats neatly hung on the wall. Later, after we see him leave into the storm, another shot pans from the now open generator room, up the stairs, to the open door. We also see that the coats are moved around.

As we know Blair is in the generator room later, where "fuck you, too" takes place, it's likely that Blair came up and assimilated Childs when the others left, then sent him to the storm to wait it out or freeze in case it failed here

Maybe it just wants to freeze itself and wait for the rescue team without risking of being burned by the human.

Prequel bullshit doesnt count.

Even if you do count the stupid body jewelry rule, the Thing probably learned that it could just put the ear ring back in after what happened last time.

You think Kotonukiya will make a disgusting waifu version of The Thing like they did of Pinhead, Freddy, Jason, etc.

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Watch the scene again. MacCready lifts the bottle up as to take a drink right before Childs enters the frame.

HE WUZ DA THAANG

oh my lord
im watching the last scene on youtube here
youtube.com/watch?v=GA4Ozqt7338&ab_channel=Movieclips

every time macready opens his mouth it looks like a fucking dragon breathing smoke, yet with childs there's only a couple times when a little bit comes out but most of the time he talks or exhales there's NOTHING

then the music starts in with the BUM BUM, *right* as childs starts to drink, and macready smiles afterwards, like "yeah, I thought so"

No they hated it because its grimdark and disgustingly gory.

Yea, this. The movie is over, show is done, curtains are rising. The ending isn't important. At least, who is the thing isn't important.

The original script mentions MacReady hiding a flamethrower under his jacket. When Childs take a drink that confirms it for him and that's why he laughs.
He's ready to flame that ass.

>We see in the prequel
stopped reading there

he can't be the thing, he has an earring and we learn in the prequelsequel that the thing can't replicate things which aren't alive.

Despite seeing this movie 2 decades ago I didn't realise "MacReady" was spely that way. I thought it was "McCreedy" or similar based on how they pronounced it in the movie.

It can't replicate clothes either but it's wearing them. Know why? Because the thing puts on clothes.

Guys can we just agree that this movie is fucking based? My favorite movie ever
Near perfect movie but I cant think of ways to improve it

Do these fellas know they are the thing?

>Can't think of ways to improve it
CGI

the earring was on his other ear

he just want to be left alone and nap

kys

yea its the opening scene with the computer all over again. he pours whiskey into that one, and gives a drink to the thing knowing theyre both cheating bastards

>mfw

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No. Canonically neither him nor macready are infected. Childs freezes to death in that hut.

He never does that and regardless the thing would 100% know the difference between gasoline and alcohol.

>People shit all over this movie and John got depressed as fuck

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I wonder how many times Carpenter will have to say that was purely a result of lighting and in fact you can see some breath before it stops being posted.

Hey Mac, ready?

This. It's literally the end of the conversation. Canon is that both were human.

They both are

There is no THE thing idiots they were all infected so they're all Things

The idea of lovecraftian horror is to fear the unknown and realise you cannot overcome something that you cannot even comprehend with your mortal senses.

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Are you mentally retarded ?

holy shit

MacReady was infected upon blowing up the Thing, the fragments blown outward would have landed on his clothing and taken root

This. It's literally an metaphor for cabin fever.

>Canon is that both were human.
source

you nigs really not heard that theory before? or is this just samefag patting himself on the back for such an "insightful and original thought"

>source
a 20 year old videogame
also random ramblings from carpenter while he's on the can

As the other user said they made an officially canon videogame sequel and carpenter backed it up many times.

i think i was always too distracted by anons yapping about the retarded gasoline theory to notice the comeback to the chessputer.
Not sure on the interpretation though, the whiskey he pours into the computer breaks the game, it's macready saying "fuck you then see how you like it when i break the game" - giving the whiskey to childs (if a thing) is more along the lines of "well-played my old fellow, I have been beaten but by the best" which might even be an arc of sorts for macready.

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1. Alcohol and Gasoline behave very similarly on a molecular level. They're both highly flammable, noxious, and destroy cells on contact. It's not unbelievable that a truly alien organism wouldn't be able to tell them apart.

2. MacReady didn't have any food, and he didn't have any drinks. He gathered weapons and set out to save humanity. As far as he knew it was a one way trip. He didn't and wouldn't have had a bottle of whiskey on him. It was a moltov cocktail.

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Pay close attention to their breath here. MacReady is producing huge, obvious clouds as he breathes. The only way to keep Childs from producing that much vapor would be if it was intentional that he didn't. And the way Kurt Russel just huffs and heaves looks like clear direction to make it obvious. In other words, the director took great pains to show disparity.

4. The Thing suspense music cues the moment Childs drinks from the bottle. It then cuts to another shot of MacReady with big clouds of vapor as he laughs sardonically.

Childs is the Thing. Yes, it was meant to be ambiguous, but FFS he's the goddamned Thing. The director does everything short of just outright telling you to make it clear.

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And I forgot the most important reason.

6. The movie begins and ends with MacReady sharing a drink with an inhuman opponent. In both instances he offers his opponent a "poisoned drink." In the first instance, the whiskey kills the computer, in the second instance, the moltov cocktail outs the Things. The movie ends as it began. Pottery and all that shit.

>2. MacReady didn't have any food, and he didn't have any drinks. He gathered weapons and set out to save humanity. As far as he knew it was a one way trip. He didn't and wouldn't have had a bottle of whiskey on him. It was a moltov cocktail.

how does this follow exactly? he's drinking at the beginning and it's cold as fuck, he's also in a high stress situation and he's a badass. it absolutely could be just whiskey, or he could have even just found it in the wreckage. I like the gasoline theory but it's too calculated for macready who, while fairly smart, has been shown to be emotional and reactionary. I think the fact that we're even arguing about it nearly 40 years after it's release only definitively proves that the ending is ambiguous.

>Likewise all of the alcohol in the place was turned into a Molotov cocktail with gasoline
Prove this

>how does this follow exactly?
Taking whiskey or food would have been absurd in the middle of a mad dash for survival like we're presented at the end of the movie. It's not like we got a shot of MacReady stuffing tins of food in his coat. In the run up to the climax of the movie MacReady is shown to know the stakes. It's an end of the world situation. He knows fire is just about the only thing that works and makes moltov cocktails. Taking whiskey would be an unnecessary move since 1 he doesn't know he'll even survive, 2 that's weight and space he could use for more weapons, and 3 he simply doesn't have time.

>he's drinking at the beginning and it's cold as fuck
He's also not in an end of the world high stakes situation. He's chilling out.

>I like the gasoline theory but it's too calculated for macready
The theory works because it's way less calculated than having Macready take whiskey with him. Grabbing bombs is way more reactionary than grabbing bombs and a bottle of whiskey for just in case he lives. And if he DID take an extra bottle, he'd have to keep track of it when shit hit the fan which might be a problem in the middle of a firefight. Offering Childs a drink isn't terribly calculating either. He has a moltov left and just hands it over.

>I think the fact that we're even arguing about it nearly 40 years after it's release only definitively proves that the ending is ambiguous.
That's the point. It's undoubtedly ambiguous but there's still a definite answer. It's not like the briefcase in pulp fiction where it could literally be anything. The viewer is given all of the pieces in this case and is thematically nudged toward an answer. It's just up to the viewer to put it all together.

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>He didn't and wouldn't have had a bottle of whiskey on him. It was a moltov cocktail.
Bullshit, everytime we see "off duty" MacReady he's drinking whiskey. He says in one scene "I just want to go to my shack and get drunk". I have ZERO doubt that if MacReady was going on a one-way mission he'd take a bottle of whiskey with him.

Secondly, it would be stupid to pour out the whiskey and replace it with gasoline to make a molotov cocktail since any liqour over 80 proof will ignite and burn easily enough.

Just because we see MacReady drinking, that doesn't mean he's always got a bottle with him. He's not a alcoholic genie. He drinks because he's bored.

Alcohol burns, yes, but it burns too fast and wouldn't work for killing something like the Thing. You hit the Thing with an alcohol bomb and it all burns away before it can do any damage. You need something like oil and gas that burn slower and stick to flesh and clothing.

This was my interpretation too. I think it makes for a more kino ending. But I also enjoy all the different theories so it's me having a cake and eating it too.

Whether Carpenter thought Childs was the thing or not his editor sure as fuck did.

he called it canon because they cut him a paycheck

youtube.com/watch?v=oZzS9hBwaqg

No way in fuck MacReady has anything but molotov cocktails on him. Look at the bottles strapped around him in this shot. Look at their weight and size. There's no goddamned way he's got a victory bottle there. It wasn't whiskey at the end. No fucking way.

It was whiskey my dear user,in case you didnt know,you can make a molotov out of anything with enough alcohol on its own,and whiskey fits the bill

Who said it's a victory bottle? It could be that or a "cornered by the thing with no way out, one last sip" bottle.

It's your headcannon, user. You do you. You can ignore everything you want and just believe whatever you want. No judgement. I'm just telling you what the evidence in the movie points to.

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You're projecting. I swear you gasoline theorists are worse than flat earthers.

Your thinking of They Live, user.

well spent quints

Checked and nooted.

You're all idiots. The Thing is Ben Grimm

It's a prequel to the john carpenter movie. they all died.

>1:41
goodbye my sides

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This is one of the best things I've ever seen.

Doesn't he say "now I'll show you what I already know" and tests his own blood? I remember that line is said.

cheeky cunt

but macready did break the game. theres no way for the thing to get off the base anymore and theyre both gonna freeze/hopefully get snowed over and forgotten

>Can talk/communicate
>Smart enough to frame the non-infected
>Capable of building spacecraft
So why was it a rampaging killbeast?

>Try to peacefully integrate
>Get flamethrowered
The humans struck first.

Maybe someday dipshits will realize how retarded the gasoline theory is. Maybe someday.

youre right we should peacefully allow the space refugee in and allow it to assimilate into our culture

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They were both infected.

Elaborate. Also, checked.

>peacefully integrate
>first onscreen action was to kill the fucking sleighdogs
Yeah, peaceful.

So killing animals is wrong now?

Carpenter has gone on record saying there's no right or wrong answer. Stop being autistic

You forget that The Thing massacred the Norway base?

>Fuck it's cold. Been frozen for like...forever.
>good to be awake.
>Hm. Let us just try to communicate with these fleshy dudes.
>WTF?! Like 99% of these dudes aren't talking back. They're just like dumb zombies!
>Gotta play it cool. Better pretend to be one of them.
>Maybe we can enlighten some of these slave flesh creatures and help them out
>WTF?! These brain guys say there's billions of these slave flesh horrors!
>Gotta save them and wake them up. The horror.
>Shit these shambling slave flesh beings are real dicks!

Adds up. Bruh just wanted to talk.

>First introduced clearly fleeing for its life from people aggressively trying to shoot it to death
Oh yeah the Nords were definitely the victims there.

careful with that edge, breh

No, nothing wrong, it's just the action of aggression really, the dogs never really meant anything.

Depends on whether or not your count the shitty prequel film or not.
3 options:
>it's just in its nature; it might be the nigger of its species
>it's having one hell of a bad day: crashed on alien planet, crawled out and froze for 200k years, gets woken up to faggots prancing and dancing around it
3rd option is the prequel one, where the thing is NOT the intelligent extra terrestrial lifeform that created the spacecraft in the first place but just a zoological specimen picked up by the zoologist aliens in the first place on some planet that they didn't realize was hyper aggressive and capable of mimicry that then proceeds to consume all the other specimens on board and then the pilots themselves thus ingesting the ability to create a spacecraft, or at least the facsimile of one.

Listen Thing I don't know which idiot found and thawed you out but I want you out of this fucking planet.

The Thing arrived at their base and they led it to a pen with what it assumed was livestock. Imagine arriving in a foreign country and they bring you to a room filled with food only to start trying to kill you after you dig in.

Fun fact about (WW2) flamethrowers that I didn't know about until recently that I assume most people don't know:
They only hold 8seconds worth of fuel in those massive back tanks.
That's it. 8 measly seconds (or less, I can't remember, it was defo

READY TO UNLEASH 8 SECONDS OF HELL SIR

Always liked Peter Watts take on it, good short story: clarkesworldmagazine.com/watts_01_10/

Blindsight movie when?

takes about 8 seconds to drain mine own tanks

Maybe the real Thing is the friends we made along the way.

You telling me you'd have 1 goy in your squad lugging around all that equipment for an 8-second action-time and then running off to refuel?
Doubt.png, source where?

>tfw the real Thing was inside us all along

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M2 flamethrower
7 seconds.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M2_flamethrower

I saw it on fogotten weapons on youtube a while ago
youtube.com/watch?v=aPQYK5ZMbWY
7 mins in or so he mentions "about 6 seconds".

I'm sure that I've watched a vid where an actual combat vet that operated one of these things said much the same.
It totally surprised me as I thought that, with those massive tanks, that there'd be a longer firing time than 6 fucking seconds.

link down

youre in a trench and a bunch of americans roll up on you with that and pic related. what do

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The thing can perfectly mimic people, right down to their memories. It would know that what it just drank is wrong.

cry warcrimes about buckshot being too cruel

Works for me, try this maybe:

web.archive.org/web/20190305204235/http://clarkesworldmagazine.com/watts_01_10/

thanks, will read it sometime

I've never understood why people think Childs' breath not showing up means he's a Thing.

1) Things are not robots. They're biological. Biological as hell in fact. They're not like fucking Deep Space Nine shapeshifters who only seem to be human when they are actually made of slime. They imitate humans by becoming human(ish), they have lungs and all that shit. They obviously need to breathe.

2) We KNOW human-things breathe because earlier in the greatest scene in the history of horror movies, Bennthing exhales hugely while screaming. Pic related.

The point of the scene is that it can never be known who is a thing and who isn't. We are never shown whether Childs was or wasn't, because Macready can never be sure either. We can take his/our lack of knowledge as another thing for our paranoia to feed on, or we can refuse that.

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> it can never be known who is a thing and who isn't

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I always considered the possibility that the various Thing-replacements may be competitors, or even adversaries. Sort of a version of 'There can be only One!'. Once they finished off the humans, they would each look for a weakness in the other.

I like this theory too, but it doesn't quite hold up. Someone should use this idea for a different story.

This. It doesn't matter anymore, macready is going to die anyway, from the cold or turning into the thing.

Also because Thing = highly flammable and he just downed some gas and is holding it by the fire

Palmer points out the spider thing

I think its more likely that some people were only partially infected and retained some consciousness of themselves until the alien inside them decided the gig was up and had to get more aggressive. Makes sense for Norris with the heart attack that way, since he seemed normal but was in pain due to the thing in him.

John Carpenter's more or less confirmed that Childs is the Thing.

Carpenter literally says at least one of them is the thing

the thought that some can be a Thing without knowing is fucking spooky

was meant for

>The game never answers this.
White people evolved to survive in cold weather while black people evolved to survive in the deserts, African savannah and forests of Africa. This is why the Arbiter died while Snake Plissken survived.

Even if he wasn't the Thing, MacReady still should have torched him. Too big of a risk to leave him alive. Besides, they all already agreed to sacrifice themselves anyway.

That doesnt explain why there's niggers in Detroit and Chicago.

I thought it was a metaphor for aids and the acceptance of homosexuality

There's not NOTHING, look again, you can clearly see him exhaling his breath. It was probably a lighting issue. Same shit happens in real life

Good point.

Nigga he can't even stand up at the end. He shares a drink with him because he knows he can't do much more. Doesn't matter what happens next.

MacReady is the thing. That or he's retarded.
>Lets stop the thing from freezing by blowing up the only shelter.
His plan makes it easier for the thing not more difficult. The climax of the film is them basically killing themselves.

Was it the cameraman who said the only way to know if someone is human is whether or not they have a shine/glint in their eyes, a reflection of the light.

No, that's a dumb theory based on someone not having reflective pupils and coincidentally being the thing. Never happens again. It's almost as dumb as the prequel reasoning with the earrings.

He burnt them all to death. It's a happy ending.

When did Palmer get assimilated?

iirc there's a shadow which is the first person that was assimilated, that could be him. I really thought it could be the dog guy but i think they show he was human later (and is killed by the thing)

>it was meant to be ambiguous

>The director does everything short of just outright telling you to make it clear.

Choose one.

believe what you want

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I still think that's a weak theory. If The Thing is capable of mimicking a person perfectly down to their accept and mannerisms, it's safe to assume it knows what they should or shouldn't drink as well.

Interesting trivia about that scene, the shadow isn't of any of the actors in the film
They specifically chose an extra with a frame somewhere between Palmer and Norris and curly hair just like the both of them to shoot that scene
>dog guy is human and killed by the thing
He is human but Mac shoots him in self defense

You can make molotovs with whisky

Did you guys know the creepy dog didn't need any training because it was a dog-wolf mutt?

Yeah master trolling there. Very nice. And yeah i remember now, dog guy is killed in self defense

Try igniting standard 80proof whiskey right now you stupid dicklet.

you can't really
gasoline burns hot and long, alcohol doesn't burn nearly as long or as hot so it doesn't spread as easily
dip a dollar bill in alcohol and light it, let it burn for a few seconds and you can put it out with a flick of the wrist and the bill is undamaged
proper molotovs need to stick around and burn hot as hell so they're made with gasoline or something other than booze

The events of the film make perfectly clear that its very first actions, upon busting out, are to attack/quasi-assimilate the dog, attack/assimilate Griggs, and attack/quasi/assimilate Henrik. The lead scientist even cautions the group not to attack it, which they go along with, at first-until it presents clear and present danger. You COULD argue that the humans drew "first blood" by taking the tiny tissue sample, but even so, stalking and killing three large organisms would seem to be a disproportionate response. No, the simplest explanation is the most accurate, here: it just wants to continue reproducing/assimilating as rapidly as possible, as is its nature. And it is more than physically capable of doing so. There is a frightened/cornered animal aspect to its initial presentation, but with this is also a definite intelligence and calculating danger, comparable to man.

Your apologizing for the thing after it makes clear attacks on the camp echoes that of the Dr. Carrington character in the original film, a cold scientist obsessed with the alien, that 2011's Halvorson was clearly modeled on.

user? What is this?

This reminds me of an experiment I did during college days: estimate minimum proof of an alcoholic beverage which is flammable. IIRC I concluded that something around 130-140 proof (65-70% alcohol) is a fair minimal estimate. Everclear (151 proof) will light, and when you dilute it slightly, it will still light-dilute it some more, and it won't.

Actually Childs isnt infected because you can see his ear ring and the the thing can replicate inorganic stuff

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prequel shit should be ignored and even if you consider it The Thing could just put it back on

It doesn’t matter. The story does not continue. The writing ended. There is not a magical universe where the two fight or escape or survive or die, it stopped existing the second the credits rolled. It’s done, get over it, big boi

The thing wears clothes retard, and the prequel is out of scope of the discussion.

the black on black murder rate is sky high in both those cities and they also are heavily dependent on welfare. the cold isnt for africans

Based. Always bugs me when movies and TV show random off the shelf liquor bursting into flames

>nearly 40 years after its release

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it doesn't matter

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god,the bennings scene remains the only scene to ever get me that fucking hard,the uncanny valley when he looks at them before screaming is horrifying

The reason why he was screaming is not because a new creature has just been born, but because the last traces of Benning's humanity are intact in his brain somewhere, quickly being wiped out, and he sees and understands exactly what is about to happen to him, and he's quite powerless to do anything about it-except scream. Except it doesn't come out as he'd hoped. Sleep tight, user :^)

just finished, this was excellent. highly recommend.

>burn a dollar bill

Yeah, nah.

Dude just got sucked into the turbine of that jet engine. Incredibly dead.

The ending becomes better if either both of them are the thing or neither of them are the thing, this is indisputable
I like the ambiguous ending besides the fact that it causes these retarded theories to pop up

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Nope never heard of it till now

Nope. He lived. Saved by his helmet, which hit the blades before he did, choking the engine.
Wear your fucking helmet anons.

You're only using them to set aflame a bunker or a part of a forest so you don't need it to work for a long time

mind = blown

I don't believe in the breath theory but i do believe the gasoline theory, not only because it would be a very smart move but because at the end of the day, Mac represents humanity's badassery and unrelenting willpower against adversity agaisnt monsters and that last smirk after Childs drinks from the bottle was the ultimate "i got you, asshole", even if he's going to die he's already won.

read this niggers it's GOOD

holy shit i think this certifies the movie as beyond kino, dare i say it? kiyond.

>steals some dudes kino post
>drags it out as his own every The Thing thread

I hate retards like you

>3rd option is the prequel one, where the thing is NOT the intelligent extra terrestrial lifeform that created the spacecraft in the first place but just a zoological specimen picked up by the zoologist aliens in the first place on some planet that they didn't realize was hyper aggressive and capable of mimicry that then proceeds to consume all the other specimens on board and then the pilots themselves thus ingesting the ability to create a spacecraft, or at least the facsimile of one.
Isn't this the case too for the canon movie and not the prequel? It checks out with the unspoken source material "At the Mountains of Madness" by H.P.Lovecraft, where the ancient ones created the shoggoths and subsequently these creatures took over.

that seal is totally a thing

Why does the Thing sperg out whenever its identity is discovered despite being capable of maintaining subterfuge?

I'm with you on this one, i was taken aback by his scream and expression, it was truly an experience.

Meh, 6/10 writing

I buy 4, but not 3. You can also see Child's breath. The other's breath is more visible because it's fully illuminated, and he's blowing towards the camera, which means that his breath appears thicker.