YOU WOKE THE DRAGON
YOU WOKE THE DRAGON
Would the show be better or worse if Viserys were still alive and switched roles with Daenerys as the main character?
Viserys was the rightful king
it would have been better if he sexually tortured her for 8 more seasons and the rest of her character development never happened
>fire cannot kill a dragon
>pours molten gold over his head
SURROUNDED BY TARGARYENS! EVERY TIME I CLOSE MY EYES I SEE THEIR SILVER HAIR AND THEIR SMUG, SATISFIED FACES!
It would have been better if GRRM decided to be a humble fat fuck and never sold the rights to his work away to HBO, that way the fanbase could have maintained its self important dignity and the entire world would not be molesting ASoIF.
>you do not talk back to me
fucking top tier acting
YOU'RE MOTHER WAS A DUMB WHORE WITH A FAT ASS
Viserys is a complete idiot and would have gotten killed anyway. Tbh, he's basically the reason Dany is such a dumbass. That and the more obvious fact that they had no real parental guidance.
>/thread
Dany is the insane power mad one while Vis is the innocent cute one and she abuses him for power gain like marrying him off to powerful women for his position and claims, which eventually erodes his innocence.
>Dany marries off Vis to fem Khal Drogo who takes him against his will and can only say "No."
I would like to have seen him learn a harsh lesson of humility, but survive. And then come back with more cunning tactics to take control of the Khalasar.
Like, he's does sneaky stuff. He's the one who calls on the witch to cure Drogo, which in turn makes his injuries worsen. That's just one example, but you get the idea. He'll start making moves to undermine the Khals, and divert loyalty to his side.
He'll turn his sister into an idol of worship, while tricking her, into believing that she needs him.
probably better, more interesting but hard to believe he would survive that long
I have to confess, when the Dothraki were pouring molten gold over his face, I was pretending that Viserys was Julian Assange. Very similar characters.
Viserys is an utter cunt who only lasted as long as he did on the run because he had others taking care of him. Once he lost the security blanket of Illyrio, he was helpless. Dany wasn't much better but she had a hardened disposition to punishment due to dealing with her brother's bullshit for years, and she obviously exploited the fuck out of being Khal Drogo's wife.
>that way the fanbase could have maintained its self important dignity
so, the self-important dignity of a pack of neckbeard incel sperglords in fedoras takes priority over, say, making a couple of hundred million dollars on the franchise?
To bad it didn't happen in the book either because Vis is a fucking moron according to the original source himself. He's not clever or sneaky, and neither is Dany as a result.
That's random as fuck user.
People can learn though. I still think everything that happened up to the point of him getting gold poured on his head should have happened. However, instead of molten gold poured on his head, perhaps he survives a some other brutal punishment. He's in such a broken state after that point, that he finally starts thinking about his position, and what it will truly take to get ahead, when no one is there to bail him out.
Reminder that Viserys sold his boipussy all over Essos, since the day Darry died, to keep Dany fed and she killed him.
>remembering the days of the first season of GoT
Better. Not only is Harry Lloyd an underrated actor but it would be better for Jon’s story. Assuming you mean Dany dies and not him we would end up with a Dance of Dragons between Jon and Viserys instead of the Jon and Dany love story. Hell even if she did live Jon would marry her and she would side with him over Viserys. But the reason it would be more interesting is because while Jon as Rhaegar’s trueborn son and only heir and being a male is clear cut, night and day a better claim than Dany, Viserys would have an argument to have a better claim because the Mad King did name him his heir before he died. It would be legit grounds for a Targaryen civil war if they could explain were Viserys would get his troops. And now that I’m thinking about it he would probably have married Cercei in season seven (even she would know that would be such a smart move, but the show never goes into how weak her claim to the throne is) so we could have that alliance which would be extremely entertaining.
It’s funny how people used to think Dany was hot now everyone shits on her appearance
It’s sad how in the books Illyrio was only keeping him and Dany as some sort of crazy plan to get them killed or something so they wouldn’t get in Aegon’s way
What?
(Viserys) = (Danyerys) - (pussy pass)
finally have a reason to post this
Thanks for posting this, I lost it when my computer got bricked like three years ago and forgot all about it
>4chins
>everyone
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You made me sad user. We could have had true awesome kino.
shame they wasted the actor, he looks like a perfect targaryen, giving him falsies and having him put on a voice would probably be a better daenerys than emilia clarke
That's hot, fapping to this tonight.
Depends, what is Viserys' tax policy?
I do not want to see Viserys fucking Jon.
So Viserys has a midget and an old dude trying to bang him and he ends up getting butt fucked by Jon Snow? I don't know if I'd be comfortable with that my dude.
Viserys was a punk little bitch and you know it.
Don't /thread your own post, tourist. Also, who are you quoting?
>He's in such a broken state after that point, that he finally starts thinking about his position, and what it will truly take to get ahead, when no one is there to bail him out.
OK, sure, just maybe that could happen.
Personally I think all logic points against it happening. Viserys is too stupid, arrogant, deluded, and perhaps most of all, - broken - , to be of any use to anyone. Including to himself. Fundamental to Viserys' character is his royal upbringing coupled with his years being penniless, humiliated, and in exile, work together to create a broken shadow of a man. To have Viserys "wise up" feels fundamentally character-breaking and illogical. That's the way I feel at least.
But lets go with your idea that he somehow "wakes up" to the situation he's in. What's the point? We already have a character who was basically in his exact position - Dany. We see the way she goes about having neither gold, an army, nor allies, and how she goes about to acquiring all three.
Viserys' story, if there truly is a story to tell, would be essentially the same thing. Penniless ex-royale goes about trying to re-instate himself to the throne. Why tell this story at all? We see this story play out through his sister, except for the fact that she has dragons.
>And now that I’m thinking about it he would probably have married Cercei in season seven (even she would know that would be such a smart move, but the show never goes into how weak her claim to the throne is) so we could have that alliance which would be extremely entertaining
Entertaining for the brainless normies maybe but this makes no sense. Why would Viserys marry her? Tywin Lannister and his family had most of his family killed including his father the rightful king. He hates the Lannisters for betraying them. Even if he can get past that (lol) there's other huge problems to consider. Cersei already has grown children of her own that are purportedly legitimate heirs to the throne. What are they going to do about Joffrey? No way in hell is Cersei ever going to abandon him.
Cersei would never, ever, willingly marry the beggar king Targaryen and try to produce children with him. For what purpose? To eventually kill her other children when these new children inevitably seek the throne? Why would she do that?
Not to mention she is also old and almost certainly can no longer bear children anyway
(something the show explicitly showed she could no longer do, as well).
desu can't believe this pic is real. too good
>tfw tyrion gave cersei violent diarrhoea in acok
Excellent analysis user.
You've never met Assange, I take it. Fukr is as egotistical and self-centered as Viserys, but irl. And not ironically. Being in the room with him is fucking weird. You keep thinking he's joking, until you realise he isn't.
Better. For starters, he was played by a better actor and there was potential for growth. I guess that potential was there with Dany too but it was squandered on MUH EMPOWERMENT and GRRM fantasies.
>It’s funny how people used to think Dany was hot now everyone shits on her appearance
Whether you find someone physically attractive or not has as much to do with their appearance as with what you think of them in general. It's, for example, not uncommon to find that a particular person is attractive but upon learning that he or she is an asshole think much less of their physical appearance as well.
Viserys was pretty much scum
What I don't like though, is how show Dany is so fucking smug about her brother dying
In the books she regrets it and has nightmares about it, because he was still her fucking brother
I love how the crazy genes of the Targ family usually kills itself by being impulsive and doing stupid shit
God i wish Dany was cast better, Emilia RUINED that character for me.
underrated
how come he never fucked khalessi? true Targaryens fucks each other
Because Viserys was actually entertaining to watch and his sister is a dull trope
would it have been better if they cast a girl her age?
Maario Naharis
Dany was 13 at the start of the story. It's not legal to show a 13 year old getting raped by a horselord.
She did actually look the part in season 1. Too bad the story moved forward too slowly and now shes hit the wall by the time her character should be around 19
Who?
>popular reddit theory
The matter of succession dictates that Jon should've been. But if we were to go back a few generations Daemon Blackfyre was the true heir to the throne of Aegon the unworthy.
Aegon the unworthy is the Targaryen version of King Robert who fucked every whore in the kingdom and sired many bastards of which he legitimised on his death bed. His successor Daeron wasn't actually his son. But was the song of Aemon the Dragonknight. The lord commander of the kingsguard who was inlove with his queen sister. ( parallels robert, cersei and jaime ) so the only pure blooded targaryen child that Aegon the unworthy sired was Daemon Blackfyre as he sired him with his sister. Deep down he knew this, he gave no reason for the queen to love him, and who in their right mind would? So he bestowed the sword of kings to Daemon. A sword to be held by the ruling monarch of the kingdom.
As Daemon was the rightful king that would make Daenerys the rightful heir before Jon as she is a Blackfyre. Why is she a Blackfyre you ask?
Allow me to list the influences
> She rides a Black dragon which is a symbol of house Blackfyre.
> Said dragon breathes Black Fire flame.
> She is the Dragon Khaleesi of the stallion horse lords and the Blackfyres key supporter Aegor was represented by the the dragon winged stallion.
> In the books if Jon and Dany were to become rivals Jon is clearly the champion of Bloodraven who is a clear inspiration of Elrich of Melnibone ( albino anti hero sorceror with a magical blade ). And Elrichs rival was a Khal drogo type character. ( george has said he was inspired by the authors works )
> If Viserion dies then we are left with two dragons left. A green dragon and a black dragon. And during the last dance of dragons the factions were called the greens and the blacks.
> More Daenerys horselord imagary comes again from Daemon Blackfyres wife in his political marriage named 'Rohanne of Tyrosh'. ( Rohan is lord of the rings are the horse lord people )
Last Blackfyre rebellion the Blackfyres had the sword wielded by the king of the realm but as a house never had dragons. This time around Daenerys in her last Blackfyre war doesn't have the sword of the king but has dragons.
> Daenerys like the legitimised great bastards of the Blackfyre era has a given nickname of stormborn. But like Bittersteel, Bloodraven, Seastar. Etc..
And the cherry on top of the cake.
> DAEMON ONLY MARRIED ROHANNE AND ONLY ROSE IN REBELLION AGAINST HIS 'BROTHER' BECAUSE HE WAS DENIED THE LOVE OF HIS LOVE BY THE RULING KING WHO WAS NAMED...
DAENERYS TARGARYEN.
Yes. Daemon Blackfyres love of his life and what pissed him off enough to rise against the Daeron at that time was when he was denied to wed the first Daenerys Targaryen, who our Daenerys is named after.
>She rides a Black dragon
post link plz
Kind of makes you realize that Daenyris is psychotic.
Murders her brother for his crown, murders the black dude and her friend for sleeping together, murders the unsullied leaders after doing business with them and takes back her dragon, murders 100s of conquered Maester via crucifixion, murders her husbands family, feeds children to her dragons, shits on foreign culture, murders the Dothraki leaders to usurp the throne
Psychotic
That’s not true, Rhlor protects Daenyris the same way as Melisandre
I’d have preferred a proper 16 y.o or younger so that she came across as properly ignorant. Pretty sick of every women being POWERFUL and right all the time.
Mary Sue is literally in every movie now
Why did she betray Tyrion???
Just think how bad Tazmin Merchant was that D&D had to settle for Emilia Clarke.
is that Keanu?
The sword wasn't the realm
Aegon IV was a retard and Aemon was too good to break his vows, even though he and his sister deserved each other more than anyone else ever did. If it wasn't for Aegon, Daemon and Daeron would have no reason to dislike each other.
>She did actually look the part in season 1
She did not and she wasn’t intended to either. The show intentionally moved the timeline by like six years from the book. Show Dany was like 19 when it started.
No idea what this babble is about, are you calling Dany a blackfyre?
A 16 year old would be 26 now, did you want them to rock her ageing too?
Better. He could have taken fAegon's place and the story would have been better off without the Mereneese knot anyway. Dorne could have become a hell of a lot better since he was meant to marry Arianne (one of the sand snakes in the show?). Make that his Westerosi base and have Doran deal with politics while Viserys learns how to be a leader. Sure it wouldn't have dragons but they're just a money sink that cheapens the show, fuck em.
None of this proves that Dany is a Blackfyre.
plot device
Daeron was the true king you Blackfyre fucking shit.
I'm hard pressed to think of anything worse than Dany, unless they'd have decided to give the character an actor staring with S2 like how they changed Maario between seasons
No but it's held by the ruler of the realm
Propaganda
yes. out of the characters she has the most blackfyre influences. shit she's even named after the love of daemon blackfyres life.
It proves that there are a shit ton of Blackfyre influences to Daenerys. Much more than Faegon. ( who is lyannas son )
Daeron was a onions boy who wasn't even the kings son.
Daeron was 100% ONIONS
viserys looked a lot different in season 7
>To bad it didn't happen in the book either because Vis is a fucking moron
In the book, he was tricked into upsetting Drogo and being killed by a combination of deception, alcohol, and being deliberately mistranslated.
because she was a whore
i feel like this gets overlooked because of Dany's shidding scene in ADWD
Can anyone post her getting naked
Get fucked Blackfyre shits.
DO IT AGAIN HAND BLOODRAVEN
Retarded mong
THE MORE SHE DRANK...
Sunset found her squatting in the grass, brapping. Every brap was louder than the one before, and smelled fouler. By the time the moon came up she was brapping brown clouds. The more she drank, the more she brapped.
>but ur not a woke dragon, brother
>*kills u
Based.
>I WILL FUCK YOU UP