WHO FUCKING DID IT?!

If she didn't have that pupil / iris deformity you could make a case for her being alive having been sold off and raised in a new family.

However the fact that she has an extremely prominent and instantly recognizable identifier slap bang in the middle of her face, in the middle of her EYE (the first place anyone looks) would suggest that she is dead. Given how high profile the search and campaign was, imagine how impossible it would be to transport someone with such an obvious birthmark without anyone noticing.

If she was alive (and not trapped in some dungeon somewhere) she would be old enough now to identify her true self online by recognizing her own eye.

She's dead.

>who did it?
For a long time I too felt it was the parents but the documentary makes a compelling case for her being abducted and there being several pedo gangs in the area.

That said, the parents are thoroughly unlikeable. The fact that they and the other couples they were with thought it was acceptable to leave their kids unattended in an unlocked room in a foreign country while they sat, drank alcohol and dined elsewhere is reprehensible.

There are so many leaps in logic you have to make to conclude the Mccanns killed her and disposed of the body, You're also aligning yourself beliefwise with the proven multiple times incompetent Portuguese police

We might never know what happened to her. There's a huge void of evidence. She could have just wandered off and fallen into a drain somewhere

Good points, user.

just keep warching eastern euro porn
eventually you will see her

Died in her sleep

what is this ?

those parents are so fucking shifty you can read the guilt of their ugly faces. all the stuff points towards them.. knowing that they will burn in hell is comforting.

gaspar statements

is this in the doc ? only about half way through. how is this ignored ?

t. braindead daily mail reader

It's not mentioned in the doc.

>how was this ignored?
Probably because there's nothing to substantiate that David Payne took or killed her.

Even if he was a raging pedo, to be the one responsible you'd have to assume that on his turn away from the table he goes to the McCann's room, takes / abuses / murders Maddie and then somehow disposes of her body in such a manner that it is never found in a country in which he was merely on holiday.

Do you reasonably think he could have done the deed and then permanently disposed of her body within the ~15-30 minute window he was away from the table? And then returned to the table without arousing any suspicion from anyone?

Even if you imagine he killed her, hid her and then disposed of her in the following days then in those circumstances he would have to do it in such a way that both avoided the police / public search and avoided raising suspicion from his family (i.e why is my husband / father driving miles out into the countryside, alone, when our close family friends' daughter has just disappeared and we need to help look for her?).

They sold her to a bunch of modern day arab slave traders for $1.2 million

Anyone gonna explain what the fuck this is and why I should care?

She's in my cellar.

This is the most sensible thing anyone has posted about this topic.

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She is fish food by now.

thesun.co.uk/news/8648482/madeleine-mccann-netflix-documentary-parents-unanswered-questions/

independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/madeleine-mccann-disappearance-kate-questions-gerry-parents-a8822751.html

mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-48-questions-portuguese-10253481

No one knows, desu.

But its Portugal so probably pedo ring.

It is a mystery

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I did it

under that catholic church Kate and Gerry like to visit so much

>and not trapped in some dungeon somewhere
But that's exactly where she is if she's alive, or was alive for some time afterwards.

filename newfag retard

>an unlocked room
Why would they do that?

That makes so little sense I'm straight away dismissing it as a lie

I think it was either a crime of opportunity or she left the apartment. Either way I'd say she died that night or sometime early the next morning. She's probably at the bottom of somebody's cement basement and unless somebody confesses or they find her body we'll never really know.

I seriously doubt the parents could hide her body that well.

Do you want to fumble with keys to unlock a door every time you need to take a drunken piss? Come on, user.

There isn't a toilet in the bar?

The documentary mentions that the side gate was unlocked and the main apartment was accessed via an unlocked sliding door.

>why?
The only reason I can think of is ease-of-access if they knew that the other adults in the group would be checking in on the McCanns on their own rotations as well.

Or you could just chalk it up to negligence since leaving 2 babies and a toddler alone anyway is evidence enough that they were grossly negligent parents.

go to bed CIA

Her parents sold her for sex trafficking purposes. Check their tax records. Also look at their travel history prior to the abduction.

There are police in Scotland Yard who have a pretty good idea what happened but can't proceed

Bear in mind she would have received legal counsel, there was zero credible evidence to suggest she had anything to do with her daughter's disappearance. Why on earth would she dignify those questions with a response?

The parents are both doctors. The wife used to be an anesthetist - they're fucking wadded with cash without having to sell their kid.

Why is this suddenly getting traction here?
Is there news?

I trust the police doges that alerted

do you know how much you can sell a young white girl for?

netflix documentary came out

Whoever did it pic related and his son will find them. And they’ll break as many laws, and kick as much ass as it takes.

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I just think that some of the questions could have been answered without much effort even if she told a lie. Some of the questions I agree with her not answering.

>She's dead.

There's no way of knowing that.

The birthmark only becomes an issue if you're bringing her out in public or trying to move her around out in the open. But she could very well be kept confined and hidden somewhere, not being seen by anyone but the abductor.

> daily mail

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This shit was the most cringiest, weirdest part of the documentary. Are they involved or could they literally not stand the thought of some disgusting paki touching a young Scottish girl?

>WHERE IS SHE?!
Dead.
t. zoomer living with his parents and who's not been outside for at least a week

>He doesn’t know the truth
She was sold into sex trafficking by her parents to elites.

If thats the case then I hope for her sake she's dead.

Occam's razor says the parents.

>not knowing about the significance of the podestas in this “mystery”
Is this another sorosflix doc? It’s all lies.

>both dogs go to same spots in room
>dog then barks at madeleines doll in the parents new apartment
>dog points to spot in rental car boot (though this one did seem coached by the handler)
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. not convinced but it did activate my almonds

pretty much this

it's obvious the parents and their friends lied about checking the kids so often, and 100% they were drugged (the twins didn't wake up the night she disappeared, are you fucking kidding me?), plus the tanner sighting is just absurd.

I think either those "orphanage" people (my guess) or the guy that broke into kids rooms took her, eventually they realized they fucked up because of her eye, and killed her, simple as that.

Remember the woman in barcelona asking about her "new daughter"?

Was the cadaver doggo wrong? Shit is spooky.

felt bad for the Spanish private investigator being forced to tolerate the billionaire's wanky wannabe-hard-man son tagging along just because his dad was paying the bills

I don't really get the pedophile ring angle. Why the fuck would a group of people take a child knowing it would cause the shit storm it did. There's a reason they usually go after poor 3rd world kids.

it was the cunny poster, he did it!

Have you read the shit the parents said user?

Can’t tell if you’re a shill or not, but sex tracfficking rings run globally and most law enforcement agencies are either apart of them/let them slide/can’t do anything about because there’s too much at risk. Elites all around the world traffic children for sex and ritual and this girl is just one of many victims. The podestas were literally in the same building as them when it happened. Cmon

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>>dog points to spot in rental car boot (though this one did seem coached by the handler)
They both pointed to the car key which was then hidden on another floor of the garage to double check. Both managed to find it again under some pit filled with sand.

How can you be 100% sure it was the parents and not tabloid garbage?

The documentary mentions Ruis Pedro, the 13 year old Portuguese boy who was abducted by a stranger one day while riding his bike several years prior. His picture was then identified by his mother when the Wonderland pedoring was busted and the police catalogued the faces of all the victims in the videos they found.

Portugal is 3rd world, unironically.

Seeing her last photo taken hours before she was abducted breaks my heart. She looked like she was having the time of her life.

Blonde haired, blue eyed and pale skinned people only come from the first world.

What’s with the podestas?

anyone else find this shit spooky as hell? especially the cadaver doggo sequence

>bring some spastic dogs into a room
>they freak out
woooow

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there's a lot of info out there for you

nice b8

This part honestly made me sick to my stomach. Could you imagine the last picture you ever see of you kid is him getting defiled by pedos.

did he have any connection to that brazilian 'doctor' who just got caught trafficking and farming girls. I know he had celebrity clients like Abramović who is a friend of the podestas

does everyone just come to Yea Forums to baitpost or something? these and the MJ threads are a baitfest

hownuru?

it's just an interesting case and there are a lot of retards here who probably believe what they are writing

>doesn’t know about spirit cooking
Please get educated on the truth. More awareness is better

Do you believe the parents did it? If so you're the retard.

>The podestas were literally in the same building as them when it happened.
Wait is this true? What the fuck

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You’d lose that bet

Ahhhh, I love these threads. Great time to spread awareness. Beware of shills

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This. They sold her to the Podestas.

Uh oh
>inb4 thread 404s

They're pedophile human traffickers who have an island dedicated to raping children

MJ diddled dem keedz!!
Da McCanns dindu nuffin!!!!

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proof they didnt do it?

Is it some Eyes Wide Shut shit that the Podestas are running?

>both dogs go to same spots in room
>dog then barks at madeleines doll in the parents new apartment
>dog points to spot in rental car boot (though this one did seem coached by the handler)
>massive gaps / changes in story i.e. gerry stating he went in through the front door with his key, then changing to that he went in the back without a key
>both of their other children slept through everything the night of like several people being in their room, loud chatter etc.
>their whole reaction isn't normal, don't look upset in general but gerry gets extremely upset and or angry whenever it's suggested that he / they were involved
not baiting, i actually doubt they did it. With that many people around it would seem extremely unlikely that they did it, but you must be able to see why people would think that ?

They had a few seconds to kill her, hide the body and return to the table.
I totally do, I thought that too. The documentary totally changed my mind. I had no idea that the blood in the rental car was not hers.

It was and is, yes. Pizzagate shit is like 9/11 stuff. It's been diluted with so much false flagging bullshit from shills and actual schizos that the whole thing's been made out to be a joke when though Jimmy Saville's been outed. That should've been an inflection point but Kojima was right about context creation.

Absolutely. There’s a reason kubrick “died” after making this film. You’d be surprised to know that a lot of things depicted in film occur (secretly) in reality. Do some research on Epstein island, spirit cooking, the clintons, marina abramovic, etc. also pay attention to the various celebrities who associate with them

Reminder that Jeffrey Epstein also only got a 13 month sentence for literally having a pedo island where he had sex with dozens of underage girls, and also allegedly had sex slaves who were forced to have sex with Prince Andrew (the Queen's son), Alan Dershowitz (Harvard Law Professor and Legal advisor for both Epstein Harvey Weinstein, also proven to have influence over Trump), and a Former Prime Minister.

>They had a few seconds to kill her, hide the body and return to the table.
so you take there word 100% that that's the timeline of that night ? that could all be bullshit though

You honestly think you could keep that story straight with 7 people? It's impossible.

He actually got away with it the absolute madman

>I had no idea that the blood in the rental car was not hers.
There is no conclusive evidence that it isn't hers, the match is 80%. Anyways people like are too obsessed with the car boot when Kate's, Maddie's clothes and the car key were pointed at by Eddie and the car key was way more interesting for the portuguese police than the boot.

they are absolutely stone cold in the face of all that pressure. Makes me think they did it.

It wasn't straight though. They all said the checkup times were different.

Isn't Nicole Kidman's dad tied to some shady kidfucking stuff himself? Her interview about what Kubrick said about the world being run by pedo rings is surreal.

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no, that's why all of their stories and timings were different.

why is the car key specifically so interesting ?

What a bunch of buffoons.

I think that case is being pursued by some groups again from another angle and a judge called for some documents to be unsealed or something a few weeks back. Doubt there'd be anything big they'd allow to be made public, just like that story about the spa with the underage girls being trafficked where they picked up Kraft got buried. Who knows? What's wild is that Saville's story was made public and nothing came of it. It's just like Weinstein's story. Whole thing is made out to be a big break and a victory when it's really just a controlled burn meant to protect a bunch of guilty people by throwing someone to the dogs.

I'd say the parents killed her accidentally by overdosing her on sleeping pills while they went out, and then hid the body to escape manslaughter charges.

Still, I'm not sure how they could have hidden the body so quickly and so well.

If you believe the parents were involved in her disappearance than the following must be true

>They would have had to have gone to their sitdown dinner and acted completely normally before going back and reporting her missing
>If they had a plan regarding reporting her missing then they broke that plan by allowing their friend to check on her when that wasn't part of the scheduled checks
>For the dog alerts to be accurate there must have been blood present and her body moved to the wardrobe for some reason, bearing in mind 20 people came in and out of the apartment before the police arrived. The apartment would have been combed thoroughly
>If the dogs are right, they would have had to freeze her body to avoid it being smelt before they got rid of it
>If they got rid of the body using the rental car they would have to have done this while avoiding the media who were following them 24/7
>For the dog alerts on the rental car to be accurate there would have been blood present, bearing in mind blood would have congealed over three weeks or been frozen

Also bear in mind these were rental apartments and rental cars, and dog science is completely unreliable

>dog science is completely unreliable
Go fuck yourself.

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Both dogs managed to pinpoint it again from far away when they double checked by removing it from the car and hiding somewhere else.
The car key came into contact with something that was in contact with a cadaver for sure. It obviously didn't touch Maddie since the car was rented 25 days after the disappearance but it could've very well come into contact with something of hers.

>I'd say the parents killed her accidentally by overdosing her on sleeping pills while they went out, and then hid the body to escape manslaughter charges

That's certainly possible, but there's no way to prove that.

truth hurt bitch?

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There's no way the parents killed the kid in the apartment and some how got rid of the body. It's just fucking impossible.

The issue with the dogs is that the defense had cadaver dog experts from the US prepared to say that the dogs are only accurate 20% of the time. The prosecution was preparing to counter with cadaver dog experts that would testify that they're accurate 60% of the time. So even the prosecutions experts would cast some doubt on the dogs.

In the end we have this idea that the dogs are only reliable somewhere between 20% to 60% of the time and that's not very powerful or convincing.

What is it about true crime shows? They attract a certain kind of gullible, crazy, and absurdly zealous people.

Honestly sounds epic as fuck.

Eddie was 99% infallible unlike those dogs. The McCanns contacted the lawyers of some american who killed his wife but got away with it cause those dogs had a bad record.
It should also be noted that they did so after being shown the video of the dogs at the garage during an interrogation which freaked them the fuck out.

As opposed to what honestly, fans of the Kardashians or Cardi B? True crime shows aren't some niche. Crime is one of the most widespread and popular genres, period. I haven't really gotten into true crime much myself but at least it's engaging.

>haha yes bro let's fucking chase this ruski pedo bastard, let me drive!
>u-um you're driving too close to him, slow down
>no! let's fucking blow up his car as well! I'm in charge her, don't make me call my dad!
>o-ok

It really wasn't They drove around harassing nobodies for a few weeks. The Spanish PI did all his best work online, infiltrating that pedo ring in Spain.

>not wanting a spanish amigo showing you the ropes in private investigating.
come on.

Either a mistake and took the wrong kid or someone just got greedy for a qt.

Some reporter from 20/20 in Making A Murderer summed it up succinctly. "People want murder. People want the perfect murder story and all of our competitors are trying to give it to them and we are too."

So there are two checks, one by both Gerry and Kate with one in the middle by their friend. What is being suggested is that either of these parents found their child unresponsive (in this scenario they haven't assumed she is just sleeping), decided the most suitable course of action was to dispose of the body, managed to do this within a few minutes without being seen or without a car and then if it was gerry return to the dinner party completely unmoved. This would have happened with the checking parenting banking on the assumption the other parent would go along with this plan

I thought the exact same. The son got to pretend he was a super hero, going around lighting people's cars on fire. "I didn't care about anyone else, all that was on my mind was finding that precious, innocent little girl." What a cringelord

el Ayuwoki

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They didn't even get anything done lol. The billionaire, his son, the PI, and everyone looking for here were absolute failures

oldfig here
someone a number of years ago posted GPS to where the body was
may or may not be inside a basement or cemented into the foundation
nothing ever came out of it cause it turns out Portuguese anons are also basement dwelling NEETs

what is eastern europe

The point is that the dogs by themselves are useless in court, and especially when the prosecution could only present experts vouching for 60% reliability.

So without corroborating DNA evidence the dogs are irrelevant in terms of their usefulness in a court case. This is why the dogs have been pushed to the margins. It's a dead end.

"Dude some pedo took er!!"
"How come they didn't take the twins sleeping a few inches away from her too?"
"Fuck you, dogs aren't science!!!"

There's literally been a thread every day since Yea Forums's inception of random coordinates saying there's a body buried there. Do you believe everything you read?

and there have been legitimate murderers posting what appeared to be hacked off limbs for attention
you gotta remember this site had a million monthly users in the early days

>HEE
>HEE
Memes aside he's unironically innocent

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Yeah that's a fair point. But it may not have happened in quite that way or even that night.

I only mean to say that theres a possibility that the parents know something or were involved.

that's not even a handful of cases. most of the people making those posts are retarded fourteen year olds.

How do missing kids usually get found? Especially ones who were kidnapped by a serial killer? I've always assumed she was just killed and dissolved in acid or some shit so she was unfindable by the next morning

I think the parents are suspect, but their reaction to seeing how she may look like now was genuine, you can't fake the emotions they displayed seeing their grown up daughter.

The point of the dogs was to try and find her either at the beach or some wasteland which were the first things searched by them.
When there were no results they tried the house and car to try and get a confession from Kate. Of course the dogs alone won't work for prosecution unless there's physical evidence, but Eddie IS 99% infallible and has a perfect record of finding dead victims remains and getting people jailed.

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Watch more forensic files. They usually don't get found alive.

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The argument about the eye was one of the only things that Amaral said that wasn't incompetent.

>and there have been legitimate murderers posting what appeared to be hacked off limbs for attention

I was around here when that one Canadian killer (Luka Magnotta) was posting his cat snuff videos on Yea Forums. He eventually drugged and hacked up some guy and posted videos of that as well.

didn't know based icepick man posted here

that is true, but have you got any other leads?

Were the dogs actually looking for her scent or just any scent of human blood? Didn't they say the dogs could smell years old blood after multiple washings? How do we know it wasn't some murdered hooker blood from 3 years ago?

Best thread on the board right now

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Then Maddie's clothes and plushy would've also have to come into contact with a dead hooker.

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Very rare and not first world.

Making you more of a winner, meaning he would in fact be more of a failure

This, nobody else has mentioned that two different dogs, one for blood and one for bodies both found something in the apartment. You could dismiss this if they only alerted in the apartment but they alerted to Madeline's toy, the apartment and the rental car.

parents did it
dog picked it up
anything else is muh armchair investigation and /x/ conspiracy bs

I'd rather get a bit pissed at a door for being hard to open than leave a room with 3 children unlocked in a foreign fucking country

>didn't know based icepick man posted here

Yeah he was a Yea Forumstard

Her skeletal remains are dispersed into the Atlantic ocean most likely

>Why is that important anymore?
Because it is the biggest missing person case in history and had nonstop 24/7 media coverage from around the world.

zing!

I'm admittedly naive, why would you think she was actually sold?

Dumb Amerimutt
Those 2 sketches belong to the same suspect, not 2 different persons.

Watch who took Johnny. It is really very similar to this, young kid very close to his well to do middle class family abducted while making his paper boy run around the neighbourhood. It's the other way around, the ultra rich pedos love causing a fuss, they get off from it. The guy who abused that kid specifically said they wanted 'pure' untouched kids from good homes. Makes my fucking skin crawl, unironically satanic boogeyman tier shit.

all the sick fucks have migrated to 8gag now
nothing left here but dumb redditors and dumber phoneposters

How long would she have even had to have been dead for the cadaver scent to activate, not to mention spread to the doll? Surely more than one night, which means that it's likely that their entire party was lying for them. Crazy that they can get so many people on the same page if that's the case.

You have to dismiss it because you cant do anything with it. The dogs will not help convict anyone. The dogs importance in this case relied entirely on the DNA testing which did not come out in the prosecutions favor. DNA inconclusive = dogs inconclusive.

That whole line of investigation is now in 2019 completely useless.

So you are not going to he able to get to the McCanns with the dogs, so I'd give that up. I think the only way the McCanns will be arrested again is if they confess.

Imagine being this dumb

>all the sick fucks have migrated to 8gag now

I'm happy for that. That Magnotta era of Yea Forums was unreal and turned me off of it for years. I was at one point actually afraid to go there.

>Surely more than one night,
Depends on the dog, some can detect the smell after a few minutes, some after a few hours. But it doesn't discredit what you said abut the rest of them lying.

What does the country being foreign has to do with anything? Do pedophiles target foreigners?

why is the most likely scenario; that she was trafficked by boat to Morocco so widely disregarded?

I lost everything i have, 400k, last week, and all I have left is 20k. I was fucked over by my father who i stupidly went into business with. None of my friends reply to me any more, they have all moved on and I havent had sex in years as i moved back in with my parents when the love of my life left me. a few days ago I bought a rope at B&Q and tied a noose in some woodland nearby. Someone fired two shots right near me (its Ministry of defence land) and I ran away scared. im really drunk and i took up smoking after quitting for so long. i cant see how i wont end it all this week. today i went back but the rope was gone

right now im just posting sneed shit

The dog angle is bullshit...nobody is covering for them because the case has all the hallmarks of a pedo gang abduction. There is a fucking group of men surveilling the apartment, asking for charity donations for a NON EXISTENT ORPHANAGE. That itself is definitely some kind of sick code. The person in the flat above theirs said they saw a man coming out of a ground floor apartment then check around when he was closing the doors and then men in a supposedly unoccupied apartment 2 over from theirs on the day of the abduction. This is probably the biggest pedo heist they're ever pulled right in front of everyone's noses. Makes me physically ill thinking about these evil satanic molesters getting away with it and everyone thinks it's the fucking parents.

Most people would kill for that opportunity. At least you had it.

you better not be one of these 'I have 400k ((((worth of cryptocurrency))))' niggers. Assuming you're not, how do you lose 380k in a week?

If she died she died that night because Maddy was definitely confirmed alive that day by the kids club director and other children who were around.

I don't think that was what b&q's slogan was referring too

also you have 20k, stop crying

probably dodged tax's thinking he got away with it

The Netflix documentary is dumb:
>they suggest the scammers that begged money for a fake orphanage could be linked to the dissapering which is stupid
>They inact the case of a guy that got into a bed of some british girls as a white actor, but PJ believes he was this Cape Verdian negro (pic related)
>The negro worked at the time at the Ocean Club bot got fired and arrested for burglary later
>The PJ interviewed him
>The negro is now dead, died in a tracktor accident
>Netflix ignored the Cape Verdian guy story, and played his entering as a part of the beggers part and with a white actor. Why?

He was a drug addict and an african immigrant, i don't think he had the intellectual capability to commit the perfect crime, but still if you believe in an abduction he is the prime suspect

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Don't dwell so much on what you've lost...plenty of people are heavily in debt let alone +20k. Plenty of this board is in a much worse situation relative to women. Being an alcoholic is common. Committing suicide because of some girl, some lost money, friends or a job are the stupidest reasons to do it. They all come and go. Existential depression or crippling illness are different...but if it's neither of those you're probably wrong.

What if she's in the black lodge? Is 2033 the year she gets found? Only 14 years to go maddy

This is the most likely scenario but anons just want to shitpost.

It was hardly the perfect crime, whoever got away with it has the inadequacy of the local police to thank. If they were smart they would have had a getaway car ready right outside the apartment, and not have walked right fucking past one of the McCanns friends

Do they question any of the friends they went on holiday/had dinner with at all in the documentary? Would like to hear their story?

Also bare with me

>McCann's and possibly some of their friends are abusing Madeline
>Give the children a sedative so they don't wake up
>The friend who goes to check instead of the parents abuses her sexually, possibly blood from penetration
>She wakes up
>He covers her mouth to stop her screaming
>She dies
>He moves her body to the car
>Kate then waits and alerts police

Full of holes but I'm trying to account for the blood in the apartment

Didn't that entire part of the story get discredited? Someone came forward and said it was probably them walking with their kid.

Dont do it user. It just looks really bad right now, but it will get better.

List Of International Suicide Hotlines provided, based user.

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made his millions in double glazing means he is an absolute scum bag

>>How come they didn't take the twins?
They only had two hands?

user, there is literally no time for this to happen. the 7 adults were pretty much at the tapas bar all night and the rental car wasn't rented until 25 days after she disappeared.

I'm Gonçalo Amaral, AMA

why are you so obsessed with fridges?

>haven't had sex in years
Do us a favor and kill yourself

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>I'd say the parents killed her accidentally by overdosing her on sleeping pills while they went out, and then hid the body to escape manslaughter charges.
The McCanns are physicians. If anyone overdosed then it was intentional and that makes no goddamn sense.

I see the MDF is in full force tonight as well.

i bet the kidnapper is posting itt right now

Joana Cipriano case was her uncle that confessed putting her in a fridge
Madeleine case is one of the possible conclusions for keeping a body 24 days hidden and then moving it on the rented car

I'm surely not!!!

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I can make any theory work with a conveniently located refrigerator.

FBIpilled

It could be worse, thread related. Also, you learn the most from your failures, if you got there once you can do it again.

>32
>never had sex
>400 pounds
>bald
>work IT
>live in a basement

Checkmate user

>Joana Cipriano case was her uncle that confessed putting her in a fridge
Did you watch that footage? It was confusing as fuck and he was probably beaten because PJs are thugs
>Madeleine case is one of the possible conclusions for keeping a body 24 days hidden and then moving it on the rented car
So you're telling me the PJs had a previous case where a girl was stuffed in a fridge and the 20 or so cops that searched the apartment after she went missing didn't check the fridge? Jesus you fucks are incompetent. No wonder you got fired.

Why are you on Yea Forums and not /fit/?

Honest question.

why is everyone in IT bald?

>posting sneed shit
Yeah you should def go through with it.

Don't believe you, post belly w/ timestamp

Checked. Thats Elle fanning right? What movie?

Thats my conclusion too.

They are doctors. They would have access to drugs but also would have extensive knowledge of prescribing narcotic medication. I just don't see an accidental overdose happening in this situation. If you've ever been on vacation with little kids, a day of active vacaction, especially in the sun, seriously tires them out. The McCann's had no need to drug Madeleine.

Something else I'd just like to say: it is really stupid to leave sleeping children alone in a foreign country while you go to dinner. But also, come on, they were all eating dinner right fucking there!! I think that mistake is forgivable if they were actually going back to check on the kids every 20 or 30 mins like in the documentary. However, I have my doubts about their level of diligence. I'm guessing it was the plan for the evening agreed to by all parties but was likely more practical on paper than in application.

My overall theory: she is obviously dead

1- she got scoped by the "Orphanage Staff" or another organized trafficker. They scoped her for a couple days, called in the Moroccan gang's equivalent of Splinter Cell to scoop her up from inside the house, and fucked off back to Africa to sell her to a buyer there. After that, who knows. Probably killed after they noticed that defect in her right eye or felt the pressure of the media shit storm.

2- She woke up, realized her parents were not home, remembered the last place they were all together was the beach, then went there. From there she just got washed out. Unlucky and unlikely rips kept her body from washing up. Gone. But this probably is not what happened.

>t. Pedophilic libtard

>27
>virgin
>barely any money
>still haven't graduated from college
>lost contact with all friends over the years and their lives have all improved ever since they stopped hanging out with me
>I'm supposed to be applying for internships but I'm too scared of failing at work as well so I'm still procrastinating on doing that for some reason

holy fuck thats literally me

Pretty sure he can write that off now.

are you me??

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If they're billionaires then almost certainly they're in on some paedophile ring. Son was probably getting a sick thrill, going around acting like he's concerned for little kids when he had fucked two that same morning.

>Did you watch that footage? It was confusing as fuck and he was probably beaten because PJs are thugs
The Joana Cipriano case was a huge case in Portugal, the Netflix explains it really, really bad, i think Netflix wanted to portrait the PJ inspectors as shaddy.

Joana's uncle admitted killing her, when she found him having sex with his siter (joana's mother).
Then, after the uncle confessed killing her, the PJ gave the mother some punches to refresh her memory.
The mother then confesses the crime and latter changes her version to a strange version of: they wanted to sell the child, but the couple who was going to buy her didn't had money with them, so they didn't sold her, and her brother killed Joana so she would not tell anyone they were going to sell her.

The uncle admits killing Joana, cutting her body, putting her in a fridge, then givinh her remains to pigs to eat.
PJ found human remains on the pigs shed later, but couldn't linked them to Joana.

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>having sex with his siter
*sister

Sorry the writing is illegible I drew it in the mirror.

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She's being kept as a slave at Chuck's

It was, it was a parent taking their child back to a apartment.

>was the beach, then went there
I dont understand this theory, she would have to walk past the tapas and they would have seen her.

KEK

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Did this doc make anyone else hate the Portuguese more than anything else?

I just read on a site (don't know if any of it's true) that they were staying at Clement Freud's (Sigmund Freud's grandson) place that same day which he had lent to them. It is located about 1/3 of mile away. Freud, out of the country at the time, is an alleged sexual abuser.

It's just the eternal anglo trying to shift blame on someone else.

>give some spastic internet access
>shitpost
woooow

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WE'RE ON THE JOB

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>Dem keedz

Anglos and Portugulians are greatest allies you fucking mong. And that's real allies, not "dude it was totally the muslim brotherhood who strafed the fuck out of the USS Liberty you should totally nuke them haha l-lol...what do you mean you already know it was Israel? Oy gevalt stop being so anti-semitic it was just an accident, a pure coincidence, yes the future Lavon Affair too! now send us $38b a year for being bigots while I tell you about the 6m!" kind of allies that you share with Israel.

>dat gurl is out dere rowlan

>Doctors never make mistakes

>shifting blame on your greatest ally
that's how much of an eternal anglo you are

>if they were actually going back to check on the kids every 20 or 30 mins like in the documentary
It was proven by the Tapas staff that they were checking the kids but not with a 20 or 30 min between checks
>she got scoped by the "Orphanage Staff" or another organized trafficker
That so stupid, people asking for money for fake organizations it's not that rare, it's better, and they get more money than to ask it on the streets. Linking an irrelevant scam to a kidnap is a huge leap.
If Madeleine got kidnapped was from 1 or 2 guys max, but most probably just 1.

In a bigger group people would fell the pressure to be the first to confess to get a lighter sentence and the money offered by Mccain's fund.
So it does not make any sense.

The guy that entered the houses were not part of the beggars as Netflix made it seem, and he was black, see

dont u goddamn do it user.
you can turn it around
money aint shit
talk to someone, even if its just a stranger on a hotline

I am 29 years old.

I dropped out of high school back in 2006. I have only ever held one job: as a mall cop for a single month back in 2011. What I have is essentially a decade-long gap of unemployment. I have not had any friends since 1997. I have never dated. I have never been sexually active. I have no car. I live in an apartment with my 72-year-old, hard-working, single mother. I spend one-third of the day sleeping and two-thirds of the day playing video games. I am a shut-in; I only go out of my apartment maybe two or three times each month. Usually either to see my psychiatrist and/or to pick up my psychotropic medication at my local pharmacy.

I do not smoke and I do not use drugs other than the drugs that are legally prescribed to me. My drinking habit varies. I might sometimes spend four days in a row consuming up to twelve tall cans of flavored malt liquor, and then I might go several months or even years without consuming any alcoholic beverages whatsoever.

I have no real goals nor aspirations. If I do, they are not worth discussing. What I set for myself are short, simple, attainable goals such as getting myself to work as a janitor, security guard, or at a McDonalds. Which even then are goals that I somehow manage to fail at.

To say that I have any hobbies and/or interests would not be entirely accurate. What I have are habits. Playing video games is a habit of mine. It is not something that I particularly enjoy.

I have been officially diagnosed by an actual psychologist as having the following three disorders: major depressive disorder, social anxiety disorder, and generalized anxiety disorder. I have been diagnosed by a psychiatrist as having attention deficit hyperactivity disorder.

the Netherlands: 113

If you're in the US, you might qualify for SSI.

Suicide is always an option for you. No matter how bad it gets just remember that you can escape.

Sorry to hear user. Take some solace in knowing that unless you're a waifufaggot, pornzombie, or a literal pedophile like so many of the redditors and tumblrfags who flocked here over the past few months, you're not the worst or the lowest of the low on this board.

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It wasn't a bar they were drinking at. It was an outdoor area with a roof and I think a plastic sheet to protect from the elements.

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>unless you're a waifufaggot, pornzombie, or a literal pedophile
Why did you have to say this? It just makes me feel even worse

I've looked into it.

The depression is hitting me really hard this year. I think what really hit me is the realization that I am a 29-year-old, unemployed, high school drop-out friendless virgin who lives with his 72-year-old mother while other people my age have already gone and been finished with college since they were 26. When my brother was my age (he is 46 now) he was already making $5,000 every month, he already had his own car, he already had multiple girlfriends, he already had a 9-year-old son... when my father was my age he had already known my mother for years and I was already 3 years old.

I often times break down crying late at night, calling out to God for help even though I do not even believe in God. My body often times feels like it is in physical pain. I find myself crying, shivering, laying on my bed and whispering: God, if you exist, please help me. Please help me, God. God, please help me. God help me, God help me, God help me.

Maybe if I say it enough times, I figure, God might place my consciousness in my 17-year-old self. Then I would immediately track down a psychiatrist to prescribe me Adderall to help me finish high school and go straight to college.

Well are you any of those things? If you are, slit your wrists. If you aren't? I'm not saying you're just one step above them. Anyone who isn't one of those fags is far better than them simply by virtue of not being them.

>competing against who the bigger failure is to win at something in your life on Yea Forums

Yowza

Kids are always cutting themselves and bleeding.
They also are very attached to their toys, particularly ones they like enough to bring on holiday with them.
Pick pretty much any stuffed animal that has belonged to a child for a reasonable amount of time and it will have trace amounts of blood on it.

Also, dogs are also particularity good at picking up on human emotions. If the dog suspected that it's owner wanted it to alert, it would do so to please them. A dog isn't interested in finding blood, it's only really interested in pleasing it's trainer.

The dog's trainer himself has stated that the dogs should definitely not be used as evidence in any way.

I'm all 3 of those things you dumb asshole

There was no blood found on her toy, only cadaver odor.

The only place the dog found blood traces was behind the sofa
The parents closet, mom's clothes, Maddie's toy and rented car, were for cadaver odor

Well, if you're shitting threads up with that shit I hope to God you die a horrible, slow death.

Also,
>Also, dogs are also particularity good at picking up on human emotions. If the dog suspected that it's owner wanted it to alert, it would do so to please them. A dog isn't interested in finding blood, it's only really interested in pleasing it's trainer.
This is stupid, the dog and it's owner, did not know what car belonged to Maddie's parents, they sniffed more cars in the garage or which clothes belonged to Kate

I think it must have been. I can't see how it could've been possible for the parents to have hidden the body so well in a matter of minutes in an area they had only been in for a few days that after all this time nobody ever found it.

Also makes no sense that the dog alerted to their car. They didn't hire it until 25 days after she went missing, by which time they were surrounded by cameras 24/7, and the entire town was crawling with police and journalists. There's no way they could've used that car without anybody noticing to move her body and dispose of it somewhere.

The fact that the dog alerted to the car throws serious doubt on its ability, imo. I think it must've gotten confused and thought it smelled something that it didn't, and it's unfortunately impossible to ask the dog whether it was 100% certain it smelled a cadaver, or only about 50%, or somewhere in between.

The dog alerting to so many things certainly seemed to present a few coincidences too many, but thinking about it critically, it seems impossible for the parents to have been involved, so the doggo must be wrong.

the witness only saw one man and both of those police "sketches" (efits) are of the same man that she described.

So unless you believe she actually saw two men and somehow managed to confuse them for one man with two heads, then you have to do some pretty huge mental gymnastics to believe that image is anything more than a coincidence.

Lol. You have 20k and you’re whining? Thats a down oayment on a house and a semester of technical college. Go fuck yourself. Im in debt up to my eyeballs with an AoS degree. I’ll be fine, but you have a much better head start faggot.

Yeah, that bit gave me goosebumps.

The bit where they showed that pedo intruder in the woman's home left me feeling very uncomfortable as well. The way she just walks down the stairs and then there he is standing in her fucking living room, right next to her daughter.

Same goes for the scene with that other pedo home intruder who wore a medical mask. That shit makes your skin crawl.

>Also makes no sense that the dog alerted to their car.
Remember both dogs alerted to their car and they also searched in random cars placed in the garage by the PJ.
It would be a huge coincidence for both dogs to get the Maddie parents car wright and not the other control cars, since the handler did not know which car belonged to who

Havent gotten there yet. Was it strictly a cadaver dog or a dog searching for her scent?

source? those two faces look quite different.

He's getting confused. Those are e-fits from the descriptions of two witnesses (a man and his wife, IIRC), not one.

In the car, cadaver scent from the cadaver dog plus "body fluids" from the blood dog

Watch the dogs part:
>4:14
youtube.com/watch?v=FF_EZCp-zJQ

This is from a Portuguese documentary that unlike the Netflix one, it's harsh for the parents.
If someone is interested in Madeleine dissaperance this documentary is a must watch. Look for part 1 and start from there

>source? those two faces look quite different.
Lol, everyone familiar with this case knows that, i thought Ameridumbs were using the Podesta meme as a joke.
It was always a suspect not suspects, it's basic information

So Ameridumbs are not posting the Podesta meme ironically.... FUCKING LOL

Obsessed

>come to thread to shitpost about spooky pedo rings and other weird theories
>people just argue about the fuckin dogs
I expected better.

Why Morocco?

If you are looking for a possible, international pedo ring, search for the other, very old case of a missing child in Portugal, Rui Pedro.

>0:23
youtube.com/watch?v=a5mIfmrYSsw

>Full of holes but I'm trying to account for the blood in the apartment
The "blood" in the apartment wasn't proven to be hers. It wasn't even proven to be blood, just some kind of bodily fluid.

Seriously doubt it.

>family of 6 wealthy irish literally say at the time of disappearance they saw someone who looked and moved exactly like gerry mccann carrying a girl who looked like madeleine and wearing the same outfit she went missing in

abudctioners are literal brainlets

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>It would be a huge coincidence
Yet the alternative scenario seems utterly impossible, so that's what it must be.

>for both dogs to get the Maddie parents car wright and not the other control cars
Pretty sure that's not what happened. I got the impression that the cadaver dog flagged the car, then they had the blood dog search it.

I'm Madeleine McCain AMA

>believing the irish
The dog is a more reliable witness.

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>unironically posting a documentary that a PORTUGUESE court ruled was full of shit and slapped an injunction on
Amaral shat this out in an attempt to salvage his ruined reputation, and the Portuguese public ate it up because it exonerated them of any wrongdoing and blamed everything on foreigners.

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They later changed their minds and the e-fits made from their descriptions look nothing like Gerry. Also, for that to have been Gerry, he would have had to be in two places at once.

>unironically posting a documentary that a PORTUGUESE court ruled was full of shit and slapped an injunction on
You are very wrong
The court case was just for the book and the appeal court rulled in favor of Gonçalo Amaral, so his book is completelly legal and you can buy it, at least in Portugal.
Not sure about in the UK, since they love censorship

And his documentary reveals some facts that are not in favor of the parents, so the Netflix doc. excluded

>Also, for that to have been Gerry, he would have had to be in two places at once.
It's called a body double, retard.

>posting shitty portuguese propaganda "documentary".

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>that raging cunt who thought because she had one successful article that she was some kind of investigative genius
>sat down at the table where the party sat, had the camera point towards the visible room, and said she could not see it

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Glad I'm not the only one who was annoyed by that. Pretty sure she lucked into her big "scoop" as well. Are Portuguese people really this arrogant and prideful, between her and amaral it's like no one can admit the possibility of being wrong.

>this is the guy calling you a pleb on Yea Forums

>The fact that they and the other couples they were with thought it was acceptable to leave their kids unattended in an unlocked room in a foreign country while they sat, drank alcohol and dined elsewhere is reprehensible.
Who the fuck does this? They had three little kids there

It took until I was 14 for my parents to leave me alone while on a vacation and they made me lock every door and window of the hotel room and promise that I wouldn't open the door even for the police.

is the new netflix actually good/decent? nobody's talking about it

>nobody's talking about it
There's been a thread up damn near daily since it came out user. Also if you are familiar with the case you can skip the first 4 episodes, which are essentially a recap. The last 4 episodes are going over different evidence and theories but ultimately there's no real conclusion.

She is only saying facts, some were omitted by the Netflix documentary

>The visibility from the restaurant was not that good
>The 20/30 min. checks were more spaced betwen them
>First the Mccains and the Tapas 7, said they were checking the kids from the front doors (longest way), then the Mccains changed the story, and now they entered by the sliding doors (the closest and more obvious pat). And even then only the Mccains addmited they were checking the kids from the slidde doors, the other parents mantainned the front door checking, so hey could not be acussed of leaving a unlocked sliding door and puttinf their kids in danger

This is better:

youtube.com/watch?v=QGfWhUOOOI0

The mom did it. That baby has FAS. The mom is a sociopath drunk. I'm calling it now.

Don't listen to this faggot he's been shilling this crappy doc the last couple threads, fucking waste of my time and portuguese sounds like aids.

How can anyone still be interested in this case?
Even if the parents didn't accidentally kill her, there's no way we'll find out who did it at this point.
Let's be honest, this case was all hype with zero payoff.
Put it to rest.

Media folk and the like are just exploiting the image of this poor girl now.
Even I'm fed up with it at this point.

Parents didn't kill her because they would have been caught even with an incompetent eurohue police investigating the case.

Covering up a murder is really fucking hard and even more so if you are in the center spotlight of the biggest media circus ever.

Because it’s scary to think their are organized groups that kidnap children and do so without a trace and then butt rape them for 10 years

Doesn't necessarily mean it was an organized group. Could have just been a single person. Maybe the Mcanns and there friends were actually checking on the kids, all it takes is a single degenerate to see a bunch of adults going in and out of an apartment with the lights on, maybe he puts 2 and 2 together and goes in to kidnap the kid. Maybe it was just a burglar who goes in to rob the place, sees a kid and takes her.

lights off I mean

The fact that the police never bothered to alert tourists(many of which have children) that there's been a masked man breaking into locals houses and molesting/raping little girls speaks volumes. Tourism is too big for a scandal like this so PJs are desperate to sweep it under the rug. Which only perpetuates the cycle of abductions and abuse.

>the town rapist

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Yup, guy may have gone into the house and started to molest, noticed she didn't wake up and just took her. Maybe if the parents didn't drug her to put her to sleep and she woke up he wouldn't have taken her with him when he was done.

>This is stupid, the dog and it's owner, did not know what car belonged to Maddie's parents, they sniffed more cars in the garage or which clothes belonged to Kate

bullshit, the mccann car was the only one of the cars that had "find maddie" posters in the windows.

You might actually be dead on, considering maddie asked her parents "why didn't you come to me when I was crying last night". The guy could have done it the night before as well. then figured the timing was perfect to make off with her.

Maybe but I doubt it, it's normal for kids to cry at night. But I do think that someone broke into the apartment to rob it, as was common at that time in that area, saw a sleeping little girl and took her. I don't think it was some organized kidnapping.

Yea Forums truly has the best OC.

this seems probable

Lol do you really think the PJ inspectors really care about tourism? All they want is to solve the biggest police case of Portugal so they get fame and promotions

PJ doesn't care but the people in charge of them and the people in charge of those people care because it brings the country money.

I’ll make another Madeline with Kate if need be

Lol no. Did you even watched the dogs video?
Just watched it again and the car does not have any Madeleine posters. Do you think PJ is that dumb?

The American girls (14 to 20 y.o, btw) weren't trafficked in the traditional sense which is a major reason why the prosecuters were allowed to keep their heads. I do suspect the foreign girls caught up in the modeling scam were actually trafficked though, as in they weren't allowed to leave the program if they wanted. That's the tricky thing with the Epstein case, the fact some 14 year olds were like "yeah, no thanks" allowed his lawyers to plead down to the soliciting charge since those who still hung around were willfully engaging in prostitution. (Not that a 14 year old should ever be allowed to do so.)
I think there is an extreme possibility the lack of Federal Charges stems from tapes he made of various Government officials as blackmail. I genuinely believe the English government would attempt to assassinate him if there was a chance the Prince was "shagging" a 15 year old on tape set to be released if convicted.

That being said, I don't like the American girls. They were poor, but not starving like some destitute 3rd worlders. For a few thousand bucks a pop they indulged this madness and I don't think the ones who have gone public are willing to own up to being prostitutes.
Everyone involved in the affair was scum, apart from a handful of the foreign girls that may have been essentially sold into the operation.

Tourism alone accounts for more than 20% GDP in Portugal and the whole country presents itself as a holiday destination for europeans.

The guy was not raping, and that incident only happened 1 time.
The police suspected it was the Cape Verdian, but he is dead now

What else did it include about the parents? The Netflix documentary really went out of its way to shill for the parents.

They said it happened a number of times, 7 I think, but took the words of only one girl in describing it.

You're a fucking chad compared to the rest of us.

same but im 24 my mon sends me money cause she couldn't stand living with me she moved to another city and re married
so im alone in a house the amount she sends me is too low but it makes the job
only had one job last year but i resigned

same i don't enjoy videogames,music,tv,or movies anymore last time i laughed at a meme was in 2011
i am extremely anxious around people i can't even talk in voice chat and will end myself next year.
used to hate a lot of stuff but i can't even hate jews now
just wanna die

She wants a white, blonde child, not an ugly brown mutt

>If she didn't have that pupil / iris deformity you could make a case for her being alive having been sold off and raised in a new family.
You mean the pupil/eye deformity that is mentioned by Jack Nicholson to Faye Dunaway’s character in the movie Chinatown?
That eye deformity gets mentioned in relation to people like George Soros, and it’s a bit weird it was being mentioned all the way back when Chinatown was being filmed.
Interesting fact about the movie Chinatown.
The back story about the wealthy influential man who rapes his daighter and gets her pregnant is likely based on George Hill Hodel.
George Hodel was a prominent Los Angeles surgeon, who performed abortions, and likely did other illegal and soecial medical procedures for Hollywood and influential polititians in California back in the day.
Jack Nicholson actually knew George Hodel’s daughter Tamar Hodel.
John Huston, who also starred in Chinatown used to attend parties at Hodels Frank Lloyd Wright designed mansion.
Hodel is considered the most linely person to have been the Black Dahlia murderer.
The remake of ‘House on Haunted Hill’ is about a crazed surgeon who butchers people and who lives in a mansion in LA.
I sort of wonder if it was also based on George Hodel.
The mini series about George Hodel’s grandaughter/daughter Fauna is based on her autobiography.

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cheer up

stream your death faggot

>However the fact that she has an extremely prominent and instantly recognizable identifier slap bang in the middle of her face, in the middle of her EYE (the first place anyone looks) would suggest that she is dead
The parents reveling her eye mark without checking with the PJ, was seen a bit suspicious by them since that could be her dead sentence

Yes, Kidman’s father died while under suspicion for involvement in some sort of pedophile ring.

Nothings come of the Saville thing, because each time Scotland Yard tries to investigate Saville, and his involvement with other pedophiles, including at least on Prime Minister, the head of the investigation leaves, or the database of information accidentally gets erased, or other crap happens.
The investigations have had to be restarted multiple times by multiple people.

Only given that the search lasted a long time. She could have been home in under a day given the public knows about her eye. Obviously hindsight is 20/20, though.

Woman in Barcelona purchased her from the broker who was stealing children along the coast. Big money, big Australia money.

>when you walk into your boardroom, you better be the dumbest guy in it

What did the scottish double glazing man mean by this?