Yea Forums, Take the L

>Disney literally bought seats that were never filled

Starts with C and rhymes with rope. Actually, forget the C.

Stay mad roastie

>150 millions budget
>i-it needs 900 millions to break even!!!

F

If I believed for a second that was real, I'd quit watching movies entirely.

Cya

'Cause not only is it cracking a billion it's probably going to do it by next week

That number will fall in half once the movie is released in China.

NOOOO BROSS WE FAILED THIS IS THE END!

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It's already in China

>imagine killing yourself over capeshit
>”Here lies user, he died how he lived. Being a faggot”

That explains why it's flopping.

sage tranny marvel threads

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I think it’s funny that all the capeshit dick measuring is based solely on box office and not the actual quality of the films. You fucking morons.

Fuck you disney and fungus feet.

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Kekked and Checked

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/pol/ =/= Yea Forums no matter how much they shitpost

the fact that capeshit is still as popular as it is is kind of sad.

>posting a Disney movie to insult Disney
I knew Yea Forums was full of retards but this is ridiculous

let's see if this crap will have some negative impact on the next movies in the MCU
reminder that even The Last Jedi grossed a lot of money and was deemed financially successful

>Posts Alita
>Fuck you Disney
You better pre-order gallons of Iger's semen if you want that sequel.

Marveldrones really irk me. More than any other fandom I've ever had the misfortune of interacting with.
>They ate up Waste of Ultron
>They ate up Spiderboy Homecoming
>They ate up WE WUZ: the movie and asked for seconds
>They ate up Cuck-Man and the Wasp
>They ate up totally not Bruce Wayne: 2
>They ate up an inferior Wonder Wonder which is already a low bar to reach.
>They eat up crap that's more formulaic than Pokémon games.

All of this just proves that Marveldrones would literally watch a stilp video steaming pile of shit, as long as it has the Marvel logo and had a cameo by one of the most overrated men in entertainment history.

FUCK BRIE LARSON
FUCK CAPTAIN MARVEL
FUCK KEVIN FEIGE
FUCK THE MCU
FUCK MARVELDRONES THAT EAT THIS SHIT UP
FUCK MOUSESHILLS THAT DEFEND THEM
FUCK MARVEL
FUCK CAPESHIT

But most importantly FUCK DISNEY

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why do you care? nice trips btw

>who cares about reality if I can invent one!

While I wasn't stupid enough to think it would legitimately bomb, I am surprised it's done this well, has anyone calculated the MCU average box office? Coz I assume this is thoroughly above average.

>capeshit makes money

The only people btfo are the ones who bought tickets to watch trash

Captain Marvel was always going to make money. And yes, Disney most likely bought seats to save face.
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stocks > cost of buying tickets
All this shilling going on here, and you simply assume the people over at Disney are overjoyed with Captain Marvel? Give me a fucking break. They are beholden to their shareholders, and shareholders don't care about movies "turning a profit". They care about movies making more of a profit than the previous set benchmark. They want MORE because anything less is failure. And Captain Marvel, while certainly a financial success, won't please them or, as the face of the MCU, instill them with confidence going forward.
After Endgame, there is a considerable chance a large percentage of people will simply fall off. Iron Man and Captain America will be gone, and Brie Larson/Captain Marvel simply doesn't have the charisma to carry the MCU. Disney will continue to make "profitable" movies, but it most likely won't reach pre-Endgame record breaking shit ever again--and I guarantee you that shit scares them. And with that, finally capeshit will slowly die and you trannies can go back to Yea Forumsmblr with your company war shit.
trips of truth

Gotta keep that share price high, with the fox acquisition, so fudge the box office numbers, the movie is bullshit, the MCU is done after endgame.

>let's see if this crap will have some negative impact on the next movies in the MCU
Well let's see the next MCU movie is the biggest cinematic event in history and the one after that is the first billion dollar Spiderman movie so... yeah

But hey maybe Black Widow AKA the movie MCU fans have been demanding since 2012 will be Marvel's first flop for real

It had a 1 billion budget, spent twice that for marketing, and theaters take 75%. Oof.

The MCU average is around $880 million, and CM will go above it soon

>has anyone calculated the MCU average box office?
About $880 million

no I heard the budget was actually the entire GDP of the United States

have sex

>the MCU is done after endgame.

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Yeah, because the next four phases look really impressive, there loosing, iron man, cap and this, and we have captain toe fungus as the new face of the MCU, that's going to be a big yikes from me dog.

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>foreign box office very high, domestic box office in the toilet

Lol this is fucking transformers tier shit right here

And we're getting Doctor Strange aka the best part of Infinity War as well as Black Panther and Captain Marvel you know the ONLY TWO BILLION DOLLAR MCU SOLO MOVIES

Fucking dumbass

>exciting characters like ant man, captain boringchick, black cougar and bow and arrow guy will keep this series alive

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they still have Spider-Man coming a few months afte Endgame which is bound to do really well, maybe a billion. Third movie will happen for sure as well
There's also guardians 3 now that Gunn is back. Black Panther 2, Dr Strange 2, Cap Marvel 2, Black Widow and Eternals as well. That's not even mentioning the newly acquired X-Men/Fantastic Four properties.
Not all of these movies will be smashing successes, and they may never reach the Infinity War/Endgame type of hype again, but the MCU is bound to continue for several more years at least.

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Doctor Strange, gay as fuck. Black wewuz, fucking cancer, captain feminism, yeah na.

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cry more, your tears are delicious

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>And we're getting Doctor Strange aka the best part of Infinity War
The best part of IW was Thanos.
And good luck with the next movies. Remember Age of Ultron? Almost 1.4 billion worldwide, the result was Joss Whedon getting fired.
This isn't Transformers. Disney doesn't want just a good box office revenue and you know it.

750 certainly seems like an inflated number, but it’s not unreasonable to assume that Captain Marvel’s Marketing budget is far bigger than the actual production budget (about 150 million). About twice as big is probably a low estimate in context. Meaning that a conservative estimate of the total cost of the movie would fall at around 450 million at least. A high estimate would probably place the marketing budget at around 500 million, placing the total cost at 650 million. A moderate estimation would thus probably be around 400 million for the marketing, with a total cost of 550 million.

Assuming that the total cost of the movie was 550 million, however, I would assume that anything below a billion is considered a bust in this case. No studio is gonna spend 550 million and be happy with a profit of only half as much.

I'm done man, I couldn't give a shit anymore, I'll torrent endgame, Hollywood has produced nothing but shit the last few years, it's dying I say let it die, I really couldn't be bothered anymore.

>Disney doesn't want just a good box office revenue and you know it
Is that why they're still making Pirates of the Caribbean movies?

CM's marketing is 150 million, bringing the total cost to $300 million. Already confirmed by Deadline.

Another user here.
I'll watch Endgame on cinema, but I'm really tired of Marvel. I couldn't care less about the filler episodes like Captain Marvel, Dr. Strange and Black Panther, I just want to see how Avengers ends.

not even close to Aquaman

Same, the MCU is cap, iron man and thor, once there gone I don't see any point, I actually watched GOG 2 last night, and turned it off half way through, it's all so tiresome.

Dead Men Tell No Tales made a lot of money, do you know what is coming next? Reboot.
Companies like Disney track the market and know when a franchise is in danger. A profit now can mean a loss in the future, Star Wars showed us.

Will beat Aquaman and Civil War around the time Endgame comes out.

Aww sweetie, you need to have sex

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Stick to your chinese cartoons then

GotG 2 is shit tho, too many cringe jokes.

It still wasn't a very good movie.

MCU will suffer the same fate of the comics. Keeping the same characters for decades is good for brand awareness, but it hurts the story.

Everyone who goes to see CM is because it is tied to Endgame. No other reason. Once Endgame is shown, new capeshit wil drop dramatically. Any movie after Endgame will barely break even if lucky.

There was an article that said that the movie will have gone past its break even point by the weekend when it reaches 750. So anons interpreted as that as needing 750m to break even. The movie really needed between 450-500 depending on how much it was spent on marketing.

This. Specially now that marvel has fantastic four and X-Men. No one likes that stuff, Disney is finished this time for sure.

Spider-Man Far From Home has a real shot at making a billion.

I can count in one hand how many Marvel movies I watched that aren't the Avengers. I was in it for Iron Man, but I'm not interested in the rest.
I'm tired, honestly. I need a conclusion for the story. And if RDJ is out, so am I.

I don't watch cartoons mate, I just want decent movies again, I'm sick of Oscar bait and virtue siginaling.
Star wars ruined
Star trek ruined
MCU soon to be ruined.
Doctor who ruined.
I just don't care anymore.

Tom Holland’s Spider-Man is actually good, take your nostalgia boner and fuck yourself with it. Literally the only thing spoiling Homecoming is the smelly looking, obnoxious MJ.

Possibly. But my guess is it's the only character that is safe for now. That and GOTG3 since Gunn is back onboard.

I took the L today DCbros.
My wife’s boyfriend gave me Aquaman on Blu-Ray for my six month anniversary present...I never got to watch it. I ate the disc. I chipped a tooth and I taste blood...
And then he caught me, and berated me for what I did to his gift...he left with my wife and her kids and I’m really concerned that they’re not coming back...
Life’s not fair fellow DCbros...I’m...bowing to the true Captain Marvel :(

Alita movie had the same budget as CM (150-180m) and needed 350m to break even

so it's probably 350-400m for CM too

Replied to the wrong person

Spider-Man making a billion is more important than crapstain marvel being a success - racists hate him because he’s white, they hated white MJ and Liz so they’ve erased them, they’ve turned Queens 90% non white when in reality it’s under 50% and nowhere near as black as Marvel portray. Spider-Man must be a huge success to shit on the racists who own Disney.

Tyrese, Jenny, if you’re reading this, please PLEASE come home. I had to do it. I made a promise, and you told me I had to keep them. I’m so sorry...

Alita definitely didn't break even at $350 million, considering it has made less than half its budget domestically, while CM matched its budget on its domestic.

>Once Endgame is shown, new capeshit wil drop dramatically.
They wrote themselves into a corner.
Endgame needs to be a good conclusion for the heroes that are leaving, decent enough to keep people hooked on the new heroes and careful enough to not be a final episode or too open. Plus, they hyped Thanos and build the Avengers during 10 years. How can you beat that?

Yea Forums btfo AGAIN

She’s not a representation of women like you fatty, she’d look at your rolls with absolute disgust.

Im finding anything related to Captian Marvel hard to believe at this point after what Disney has done to RT.

Transformers Dark of the Moon earned 1B and was a very bad film. Live the lie faggots.

domestic opening*

iirc some websites said that fox insiders claimed that 350m was the number needed to break even
I know that it's usually 2.5x the production budget according to the current consensus

>since Disney literally bought seats that were never filled.
Holy fucking shit, ur still banging on about this. Post actual fucking proof, you clown: a shot of the screen playing the movie to an empty theatre. Until then ur just kids sperging out and making it all up.

It's hitting the point where you probably could actually manage one now with the audience actually dropping away. Bit late now of course but don't let that prevent you and the rest of the comicsgate types from going full autismo.

>captain marvel makes $1B
>trump cucks on everything
>brexit cancelled
>everyone here is now on a terrorist watch list

Can incels get btfo any harder?

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Rule of thumb is twice the budget.

you're speaking with people that think Hillary owned a pedo pizza

That 2.5x works if the movie had 50/50 dom/os split. Alita has 20/80 split and a good chunk of the overseas gross comes from China where studios take less money, so it's more like 3x for Alita. With 170 million budget that's 510 million. I guess 450 million would also be enough to consider it good enough for a sequel, but Alita will barely crawl past $400 million at this rate.

How do you know it was bad? Did critics and audiences tell you that? The same ones that say Captain Marvel is good?

>trump
>cucks
why are you trannies using hitler’s big lie?

Yes. AI mass production with an UBI can make basically everyone including them someone who "lives on government handouts".

kek but I wonder how much of it's fake

>buying countless seats across threatres
>forging reviews
really lost a lot more respect for Disney after all this

Stop making up lies, pizzagate isnt about "Hillary clinton owning a pedo pizza" you retard, do some simple googling

>Transformers: Age of Extinction made 1 billion
>what came next was the problem
>The Last Jedi made 1.4 billion
>what came next was the problem

I liked what you did there fren

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Solo didn't fail only because of Last Jedi. Sure it played a part, but you are overestimating it.
No one wanted a Han Solo origin story in the first place, and they certainly didn't want anyone else other than Ford playing him. Not to mention the fact that they shot the movie twice and inflated the budget to $300+ million

It's usually total budget = production cost + half that again for the advertising budget - which for CM would be 228mill (152 + 76).

Given that it's a big MCU entry and that Disney have gone all out on the marketing you could make a point for the advertising budget equalling the production cost for this big event kinda thing: 304mill (152 x 2).

So we double that to reach the break-even point (because Hollywood accounting, natch): $600mill. The break-even point is where all costs are accounted for the every dollar the film makes is pure gravy.

Yet somehow they're coming up with the idea that it's 750mill instead, mainly due to an article on deadline IIRC.

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>removing RT site functionality.
>deleting reviews.
>modifying YouTube search algorithm.
Who the fuck did brie blow, to get that roll, she must have some dirt on someone, how could anyone look at her And say l, yes she's the new face of the MCU, she's completely wooden and lacks any charisma, Jesus if the had of picked anyone else, anyone there wouldn't have half the problems.

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>W-we never said it would fail you're just making that up!
>Disney is buying all the tickets! 50 no-shows per showing in every theater according to an anonymous theater manager on gab!

>if this shit cracks 1 mil I'm probably going to kill myself.
better get dying boy

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Solo isn't the whole problem, even SW toys and games got fucked. Let's not forget the whole campaign to fight the "trolls" (aka everyone who criticized the film) and say how amazing TLJ was.

If that's the connection you are begging for to support a hypothesis, it's not a very solid one. Solo was an idea everyone cringed at and projected to be a failure long before The Last Jedi even had it's title revealed because it was a Smallvile, Young Hercules, Young Indiana Jones level idea with a movie budget it did not deserve.

I hope you don't actually think that it failed because it has an SJW robot in it. That'd be just sad.

Han Solo is intrinsically tied to Harrison Ford's portrayal of the character. To put it is terms that that Star Wars fans are uncomfortable with, he's an empty fucking shell of a secondary character sold entirely on Ford's performance and charisma giving it life.

>we
Who the fuck are you talking to, honestly did you like the movie, I watched the cam rip and could only get half way through, it was terrible, making money doesn't equal a good movie, what exactly are you defending here.

>I watched a cam rip and it was terrible

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>I hope you don't actually think that it failed because it has an SJW robot in it.
I never said that. I believe Solo failed because TLJ was shit.
>Han Solo is intrinsically tied to Harrison Ford's portrayal of the character. To put it is terms that that Star Wars fans are uncomfortable with, he's an empty fucking shell of a secondary character sold entirely on Ford's performance and charisma giving it life.
And that's the point I'm trying to make with Marvel. Do you see anyone there with charisma enough to carry the whole franchise like RDJ did?
And you comment opens for a question. If TLJ was good enough, do you think we would see all this damage control with journalists attacking "trolls" instead of common people praising the movie?

Did you watch the movie? I'm honesty asking you did you enjoy it.

Disney cracked the code. They will never have a flop again. I don't even care anymore. Expect episode IX to be the most successful film of all time.

Well, what other explanation is there?

I'm not the guy you were arguing with, I just couldn't help but cringe at that statement. Of course a carimp would be a fucking shit experience, especially if you're already approaching it fro a bad angle. That's just giving you reasons to hate it for. At least wait until it's out on blue ray so you can pirate something where you can actually see what the fuck is happening.

I did see and enjoy the movie, yes.

>Expect episode IX to be the most successful film of all time.
lol Good luck with that.

EA needs to lose the game license and the toys need to get back to basics. No one wants some dumpy looking motherfuckers dressed in potato sacks.

Imagine the amount of money Disney could have make with this one if, instead a 55 years old looking roastie, they hired as Captain Marlel some hot bombshell in a skimpy outfit.
They have now a barely break even movie and they are forced to point all their bets on 2 billion Endgame to make some real profit. Sad!

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Who needs luck when you can buy success?

Star Wars is only popular in Europe/NA and Australia/Japan
In order to reach big heights you need all of Asia, which currently belongs to Marvel.

>I never said that. I believe Solo failed because TLJ was shit.
Which is utter bullshit. The movie failed because it was shit, not because a movie that came before it was shit. I'm not even sure how you can come to that conclusion. That is wishful thinking. With that you are actually saying that Solo would not ave failed if TLJ wasn't shit (in your opinion), which is not only blatantly untrue but actually speaks badly of the people you're trying to defend here (I guess?), saying their enjoyment of a medium depends solely on what mood they were put in by the one that prceded it, and not on whether said medium was actually good or not. In other words, that they are retards riding on a bandwagon.

That sounds like an opinion I, rather than you, would have.

Solo failed for the same reason the Kenobi movie will fail if it doesn't enter development hell now. It was a cheap idea to skin the IP. The point was never to make it good, just for it to break even.

>They have now a barely break even movie
It already made like 400 millions of profit and it's going to make 600-700 millions of profit easy

The story was cringe as fuck, CM is a terrible character, a brie Larson is unlikable, there was no arc for her character no development, it retconned the avenger, and turned fury into a joke, and it looks like she's the one that's going to save the day for endgame, 10 fucking years of build up for Thanos, but don't worry captain Mary sue will sort it out.

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Don't you think a shit movie in the franchise can hurt what comes next?
I speak from my own experience. People told me Winter Soldier was a good movie, I watched and thought it was shit, so I dropped Marvel after that. I only returned for Infinity War because I wanted a conclusion. And I'll watch Endgame because Infinity War was good.

You're delusional if you think CM will just swoop in and defeat Thanos. She will provide some help of course, but the spotlight will be on Captain America and Iron Man the most. Steve was barely in Infinity War and I think he's dying in Endgame, so he's almost guaranteed to play the pivotal role.

Do they have enough money to buy success forever?

Tell that to the directors.

>>foreign box office very high, domestic box office in the toilet
???
Domestic is huge, in top 20 for first week performance. Aquaman was #62 for reference. With that said CM is top 5 for all time foreign openings which was unexpected.

I hope you're right m, but the amount of damage control they pulled, defending CM gives me pause. Tbh after seeing the latest trailer and even knowing she's in it, has taken the wind out of my sails in terms of anticipation for the movie.

>need 750 million to break even
Not to mention all the money they wasted on tickets

>>removing RT site functionality
CM had more reviews before it opened in theaters than infinity war had in its entire run. That was pretty embarrassing for RT.

It wasn't reviews section they removed, it was the want to see function.

>celebrating normies and fanboys ruining a franchise
Go take the D.

Nah, fuck Captain shitty movie

I'm really curious to see the damage control before and during episode IX.

ope?

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>fandom
fans
fanbase
this isn't tumblr, nobody is 'a part of a fandom'

It was 50,000 reviews in the user score, not "want to see". Infinity war had 43,000. RT apologized for allowing that to happen.

he is good at portraying spider man but it isnt spider man hes playing.
spider man to begin with in the mcu doesnt really stand out because they made literally every hero a quipbot, and they robbed him of the only other thing that made him unique, the fact that he is completely self made and independent, the character tom holland is portraying is nothing more than indistinguishable quipbot #591

Factually wrong, first issue he teams up and tries to GET MONEY from the Fantastic Four, then they help him out for years and become like family.

Its already done for them in the comics, retard. Stop applying conventional film logic to these movies or youll be thinking they "wrote themselves into a corner" for the next two decades of MCu movies.

Right on cue

Nah, dude’s pretty accurate. Even when he shows up to “join” the Fantastic Four, it’s not out of desire to be on a team, it’s purely merc, looking for a way to cash in on his powers and help his family. Making Stark his sugar daddy sucked ass.

>10 fucking years of build up for Thanos
This fucking... Stop lying out your ass. You got the pay off for your build up. This is an aftermath movie. It's about the restoration and how they'll manage to pull it off, and if the thematic conflict from the previous one continues then about whether they can pull it off without sacrifices or not.

It's basically a heist movie for stealing back half the universe and Thanos could die in the first 5 minutes of this movie and it wouldn't change a fucking thing because he won and everyone is still fucking dead.

This isn't fucking DBZ WWE wrestling shit where the question "I wonder who can beat John Cena's fucking power level, oh I hope it's not this new guy who just got introduced out of nowhere."

HERE'S THE TRUTH, DISNEY KNEW THEY MADE A PIECE OF SHIT BUT ARE DESPERATELY SHILLING CAPTAIN MARVEL BECAUSE THEY'VE DECIDED TO RUN THE MCU INTO THE GROUND WITH FEMINIST/SJW POLITICS LIKE THEY HAVE WITH STAR WARS!!!

THE DISNEY/FOX MERGER WAS AROUND THE CORNER, SO THE MOUSE NEEDED TO MAKE CAPTAIN FUNGI INTO AN "EVENT" SINCE THEY'RE TOOTING HER AS THE "NEW FACE OF THE MCU"!!! SO THEY'VE BEEN USING POLITICS TO CREATE THE ILLUSION THAT CM IS SOME FEMINIST MILESTONE WHEN THE TRUTH IS THAT THEY'RE SIMPLY PISSED THAT DC/WB BEAT THEM TO THE PUNCH WITH WONDER WOMAN!!!

SO IN ORDER TO ONE-UP DC/WB THEY BULK BOUGHT TICKETS, CENSORED WEBSITES AND SILENCED CRITICS WHILE ALLOWING THAT NARCISSISTIC VAPID AIRHEAD FUNGI BREEDING GREASEBALL TO RUN HER MOUTH SO THEY CAN CLAIM THAT ANY BAD REVIEWS OR REPORTS OF THEIR TICKET BUYING PRACTICES ARE LIES FROM "RUSSIAN BOTS, INCELS, MANBABIES ETC..." BOOGEYMEN!!!

THE FOX/DISNEY MERGER IS WORTH TENS OF BILLIONS AND DO YOU THINK THE MOUSE WOULDN'T SPEND A FEW HUNDRED MILLION TO ENSURE A SHIT-TIER MOVIE WAS PERCIEVED TO BE A HIT TO BOOST STOCK VALUE?!?

YOU KNOW ALL THIS TO BE TRUE IN YOUR HEARTS!!!

!!!FACT!!!

But that's factually wrong. Homecoming is literally about how Spiderman was self made before Stark took him under his wings and gave him a fancy suit and how it made him rely on him, then loses said support and the suit, and has to crawl back up from the bottom and re-establish himself as Spider man without said support. Tom Holland's Spider Man beats Vulture without any support.

Come on, a lot of the main characters are either being killed off, leaving the franchise for good, if that's not the end I don't know what is. These movies aren't stand alone endgame is part two.

I don't know who in their right mind honestly thought this shitheap wasn't going to crack 1bil. It's Marvel MCU normie trash that's made out to be a required viewing before possibly the most anticipated release in history coming on it's heels.

It's garbage. Everyone knows it's garbage, but it's still going to make money. You're braindead if you thought it would bomb.

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Yeah pretty much this.

I'm only interesting in Spider-man 2, Doctor Strange 2 and rehiring Gunn has renewed my interest in GOTG 3. Otherwise I don't care!!!FACT!!!

> if that's not the end I don't know what is
The end of what?

>ignoring the legitimacy of his statement and just deflecting
right on cue

The end of the avengers the end of phase 4.

Only /poltv/ thought it would flop. Old guard/tv/ here knew the normies would swarm on it as they have done for all MCU films.

/pol/ simply declared "no one will watch this because we are afraid of girls and female Ghostbusters proved the world hates women as much as we do" followed by a lot of REEEEEEEE and other such frog noises. Despite the meme saying otherwise, /pol/ is always wrong when it comes to Yea Forums.

I’ve said it before and I will continue to say it: Larson is the Anti-RDJ.

Iron Man was a success based entirely around his charisma, the success of his franchise completely organic, driven by the goodwill he generated within a growing fanbase. His trilogy grew in numbers based off his portrayal of the character, and remains the only solo film to pass a billion organically - no “special guest stars,” no “charity” drives, no mysteriously empty “sell-outs.”

Larson and Captain Marvel are completely artificial - manufactured controversy, artificial hype, artificial numbers, “successful” in spite of her and the character rather than because of her. Try to imagine RDJ showing up in an Iron Man track suit for his premiere.

>I’ve said it before and I will continue to say it: Larson is the Anti-RDJ.

100% correct.

It's Rey 2.0. They manufacture some character and scream at the audience that "SHE'S THE NEW FACE OF THE MCU/STARWARS/DOCTORWHO etc...!!!" and are already setting up the narrative (ala Ghostbusters 2016) that if you don't pay to see this movie you're a "FUCKING WHITE MALE SEXIST INCEL MANBABY BLAH-BLAH-BLAH!!!". Of course Marvel wants you to forget that the first female Captain Marvel was a black woman named Monica Rambeau, which makes the MCU rendition of the character a subtle case of white-washing.

It would have been better if they made this movie, released it at the end of the year and, if it's a hit, make her a part of Avengers 5. But NOOOOOOOOOO, the Mouse just had to fuck up ten years of MCU build up with this fucking bullshit and I can't believe Kevin Feige would agree to this because it smacks of political fuckery. As if Disney was pissed that Wonder Woman beat them to the punch of having a big female led superhero movie, so they've probably threatened to #MeToo Feige if he didn't shovel out some shit and piggyback her off more popular characters.

Infinity War was the end of the MCU for me and I have no intention of seeing either Captain Fungi or even Endgame for that matter because of this roastie slag!!!FACT!!!

>/pol/ simply declared "no one will watch this because we are afraid of girls and female Ghostbusters proved the world hates women as much as we do" followed by a lot of REEEEEEEE
That's the manufacted narrative, nobody gives a shit about a female lead as long as the character is interesting and the story is good, brie has no charisma, and comes off smug and unlikable.

kek @ 750 mil to break even.

The movie probably had max 150 mil production budget and 50-70 mil advertising.

Its printing money.

But they did. Just like they did with TLJ.
I'm not interested in anything after Endgame. To me, in my opinion, me as myself and no one else, Marvel is over. We can discuss if I'm part of their target audience, but
If people are interested in Avengers 8, Iron Man Reborn and Transformers 11, then it's not my problem and wish good luck to all those who are involved. There are tons of old films, old series, old books, old games on PS2 and PC, animes and mangas to keep me entertained.

just realized something
this is happening exactly around the time disney is finishing the deal to buy fox
and they are buying it with stocks
this is the main reason this movie couldn't appear to fail

Exactly

>Try to imagine RDJ showing up in an Iron Man track suit for his premiere.
I agree with the rest, but she wore a blue dress for the london premiere.

The track suit thing was a different day. RDJ has shown up at countless events in character over the years and he really plays it up for the kids.

yeah but since the movie is just filler bullshit and not really required viewing, some of us had hopes normies wouldn't be braindead enough to keep watching it after the opening weekend

But they were tears raging before any details emerged about the character or the story, hell even before brie was cast. It was the same rage they had for panther and wonder woman.

the character is just terrible
I'm really mad at this just because it means Marvel is gonna push this shitty character even further and it will never fade into obscurity

If Black Panther and Aquaman had not break 1 billion, this movie would settle around 800 million

Wonder woman wasn't bad, I wouldn't watch it again, black panther was terrible, he was better in civil war, and civil war was a let down, I'm happy to call it a day with the MCU after endgame.

>300 million budget including marketing
>needs to make 750 million because the studio only gets 40% global
>that means it has profitted 4 million

bravo

They have already set the stage for black captain marvel.

>300 million budget including marketing

According to who? Only movies like Star Wars get marketing budgets nearing anything like at maximum 100 million and production budgets of 150-250 mil.

Fuck outta her asspained storm cuck, the movie made its money back and turned a profit in the first 3 days.

Hollywood films used to take up to a decade to turn a profit before the modern blockbuster era. People forget that films are along term investment and there are millions more to be made on the secondary market (sometimes surpassing the original box office). Even movies that bomb will eventually make money and this is why flops get sequels.

A movie making back its production budget in its first weekend feels like "the new normal" but it really isnt. A film that fails to do this may disappoint shareholders initially but it wont truly flop. This industry is far, far more profitable than it appears at a glance and the media and Yea Forums score keepers are too obsessed with opening weekends to see it.

I still don’t understand why they felt the need to retcon her in like they did. If anything, the way they’ve handled Thor, Thanos, GotG and CM make me believe they really didn’t have as fleshed-out a plan as they’d have us believe. Those films should have served to establish the cosmic side of Marvel in a less haphazard way. Instead, Thor’s trilogy just sort of pointlessly meanders with “villains of the week,” GotG is so self-contained it’s practically its own thing, and CM comes off as an unimaginative, eleventh-hour retcon that pokes more holes in the story than it fills. All of these films could have fleshed out Thanos and Captain Marvel, making her a sort of stand-in for Warlock and another cosmic character - Starhawk, all of whom have similar power sets and play a similar role in their respective stories - the character with “insight.”

or maybe it's just the latest movie in one of the most popular current film franchises globally. why does everything have to be a conspiracy?

I agree. It’s just so lazy as a character. All the way around.

It's not really a conspiracy, Disney needs captain marvel to appear successful so as not to affect share price before the fox merger, it's good business.

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There was an old rule of thumb that linked marketing budget as a multiplier of the films production budget but it doesn't really apply to franchise films.

A movie like mortal engines needs to consume a vast sum of money to get the attention of normalfags. The same is true for alita. They rely on marketing to introduce these characters and shove them down the throat of consumers. The marketing costs can reach the hundreds of millions and surpass the films actual production budget.

Meanwhile an MCU film has brand recognition and can be carried naturally on social media. 50 million views on youtube means far more than $100 million of prime time tv ads. The youtube people went out looking for the the trailer and watched it on their own. A tv ad is more costly and more often then not gets lost as background noise. Thor ragnarok and deadpool were carried almost exclusively through social media. The last thor film spent under $10 million on traditional advertising.

Tl:dr

You cannot just assume advertising spending follows the same old formula from the 80s. Social media does far more for far less but it only works for certain kinds of movies.

Black Captain Marvel (Monica Rambeau) has more personality and interesting friends (Nextwave) than Carol "I'm such a nerd I have a cat" Danvers

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right but you're implying that the two are connected and that the film couldn't possibly be successful on its own just as the next in a long line of very successful movies

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how does a dead man post things on twitter?

Well there dies seem to be a lot of damage control around the movie, if they thought it could stand on its own legs we wouldn't see the shilling we're seeing now, smells fishy.

this is beyond retarded.
you know Disney is a publicly traded company and they have shareholders to answer to right?
I can't believe people will buy into any conspiracy theory as long as it confirms their bias

Business Insider said they need 750 millions to break even.

266 is hilariously low for the states, like its never gonna reach WW or BP numbers.

It's Disney, being completely tone deaf is part of the job.

Lol, it has already been proven that tickets are being purchased and the theatres are empty. Say what you want but this move is a flop. I literally hear no one talking about it.

>purchase movie tickets
>supress negative reactions to the film
>load up every theater with 6 gorillion showing times
Nah, not taking the L when this (((blockbuster))) is entirely artificial

It will finish over $400 million domestically. Probably will beat WW.
Also Black Panther is the higher grossing MCU movie domestically and 3rd highest of all time. Pretty disingenuous to hold any movie to its standard.

>damage control
again this implies it has failed in some way financially or would have failed absent some manipulation. when the more likely explanation for its success is it's the latest in a continuing franchise which mass audiences are invested in following. it's not some anomaly. marvel movies do well at the box office. no need to invent conspiracies to explain this

Yes, which is why they have to manage perception, it's painfully obvious that the movie is mediocre, that captain face of the MCU, is unlikable as character and person, and can't carry the franchise, that added with most of the main cast leaving, if you don't think that will effect the share price, well i dont know what to tell you, and if you don't believe that the mouse will spend a couple of hundred million, to secure a multi billion contract then I think maybe it's you who's a bit retarded.

So your saying, vote manipulation, changing YouTube algorithms and abusing fans of the franchise isn't damage control.

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>Do you see anyone there with charisma enough to carry the whole franchise like RDJ did?
Tom Holland is a cutie

children make excuses. adults admit when they are wrong.

>266 is hilariously low for the states, like its never gonna reach WW or BP numbers.
WW did not hit $266m until the start of its third week. CM is over $80m ahead of WW domestically at this point.

he never posted when he was alive, either. it's a publicity account. stan lee is/was a brand as much as a person

oh yeah right if you like something here you're a "shill"

>According to who?
Deadline

First Disney forces Theaters to show nothing except Captain Marvel, now Kinema Citrus is forcing theaters to show nothing except for Made in Abyss, look at what you started Disney!

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So much /pol/tard coping ITT
Sad!

dont worry, as soon brie takes the lead on marvelCU, its over, disney is not paying these quantities for every movie, you will see the drops in numbers after Endgame.

Couldn't the drop in numbers be because it's the end of a decade long series and people are naturally tired? How will you seperate those people from the people who don't like the new lead?

only 300 domestic.

CM cost 450 with marketing, and that doesn't include the box office fluffing.
First week box office in the US goes 100% to the studio. After that it's a 60/40 split.
For the rest of the world the studio gets 40-60% depending on the country. For China it can go down as low as 10%.
So if your budget is 450, you need to make about 750 to break even. That is since it's Disney and Marvel... if you're a small studio you make even less.

First/Original cut was exactly that.
CM swooping in and fucking Thanos like a bitch.
Second/Backup cut was filmed alongside the original. It ditches CM from main to just a helper in favour of the original cast.
Guess which cut you are getting.

The sad part they're gonna probably gloss over the fact Carol was raped by her son and was a drunk on par with Stark.

Can confirm this to be true.
It's not like it costs Disney any money to do so. At least in the US, they get 100% of all the box office for the first week...

>/pol/ doesn't like women
where did this come from? yeah there are a lot of incel /r9k/ types there but it isn't the standard. there's also a shitload of schizo posters there but it isn't the standard.

This. I'm a capeshitter (it's a lot of fun, fuck Yea Forums) amnd I watched the movie because it ties into the rest of Marvel. I like Marvel but the movie was bad. Not what I watch Marvel for. Don't think it would stand on it's own, but since its supposed to tie into Endgame everyone was gonna see it regardless of how bad it was. No consipiacy needed. But man it was bad.

Movie might have been enjoyable if you liked the female empowerment subtheme but it wasn't enough for me.

>Literally sucking israel cock
>Not a cuck

Solo failed because it had absolute shit marketing and was going against Deadpool 2 and IW, dum dums.

>Yea Forums, Take the L
I'd rather take the D

>empty fucking shell of a secondary character

Overly harsh. I’d say he’s a Buck Rogers knockoff in a supporting role.

Disney didn’t even have the balls to let *Stark* be an alcoholic. They gave him bullshit PTSD instead.