*Ices over*

*Ices over*

Heh, nothin personal kid

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they're heated

When will we get a kino about this?

Why are the Japs so inhumane? Letting dozens of survivors die out of pride?

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*Katanas your pitot heat in half*

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what's going on here?

shitskins crashing planes and blaming it on everyone but themselves

explain

It'not pride its a sense of personal responsibility. They got on the plane, they knew the risks.

ISIS once tried to ransom some Japanese aid workers they captured and Japan basically told them to get fucked. The aid workers knew they were doing something dangerous and it's not the governments job to help them.

Context?

quick rundown?

he's a retard who is reposting f*cebook propaganda from 60s

Please explain?

"PULL UP"
"PULL UP"
*WHOOP WHOOP*

>It’s not the governments job to rescue its own citizens after a plane crash
>“Fuck you, you knew flying was dangerous”

Survivors?

Boeins internet defense force in full damage control and suicide watch

Pitot tubes (the circled instruments) measure airspeed. If they get blocked by ice then they can't provide an accurate reading, the pilot gets bamboozled and crashes this plane, with no survivors.

>Japan Airways jumbo crashes in forest in Japan
>many survivors, but its cold outside
>Japanese rescue can't reach them before its too late and many freeze to death
>refuse help from nearby US military base out of pride

pretty good idea to put them outside the plane then. why not just used a speedometer?

Why is it?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan_Airlines_Flight_123

literally shitty maintenance, nothing to do with "inhumanity" pilots were actually really good

What the MAX stand for?

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No surbibors

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>HELP ME TONY

MAXimum velocity into the ground

Bet it was a boeing LOL

in a car speedometer measures rotations of the wheel, you can make it show bullshit just by replacing tires with a different diameter ones.
this doesn't work in the air so you need to measure speed of "outside" going by you

youtu.be/0ppi93kE6vQ

Pitot tubes are heated, very rare for them to freeze up. And there are always multiple of them.
And there's no way to measure speed of an aircraft besides using the air outside, since that's your only reference point.

what an incredible powerplay. based gooks.

why not just use GPS

t. haile selassie

Because airspeed matters

>And there's no way to measure speed of an aircraft besides using the air outside
My car sat nav can tell how fast I'm going to the closest 1 mph, and it's smaller than my phone.

airspeed =/= ground speed

Nowadays its more of a backup instrument anyways. You get all you need from GPS.

What if they used mirrors aimed at the ground?

It's a big plane.

Based retard.

>pitot heat
u ok?

Why didn't they just roll down a window, put their hands out, and guesstimate the air speed

>crash in forest
>survivors don't build a huge fire to stay warm
wtf

I'll tell what the real problem is. All planes are made to barely work as it is. No one gives a shit about crew or passengers. Unlike military pilots government isn't investing in them, instead they are paying to learn how to fly. So there is no incentive to make survival possible in case of some sort of structural damage. Meanwhile shitton of military aviation land without half of wing or blown up engine on a fucking aircraft carrier.

or just look at the ground and count the speed manually

Huh I always wondered why people have lanyards with this written on them

>destroyed a plane an a field of a random person
>*high fives*

Americans are the worst

You need air speed for actual flying. Speed over ground is only relevant for positioning.

Hypothetically, if your speed over ground is 900, but your air speed is 0 (due to strong tailwind) you are not having any if flow over the wings and thus you drop out of the sky.

Same reason carriers sails into headwind, to increase the speed through air for planes taking off, but your speed over ground is relatively lower.

Why didn't they just fly the eagles to the nearest airport?

TIL

yeah plane manufacturers have no incentive to make sure their planes don't crash

>Off-duty flight attendant Yumi Ochiai, one of the four survivors out of 524 passengers and crew, recounted from her hospital bed that she recalled bright lights and the sound of helicopter rotors shortly after she awoke amid the wreckage, and while she could hear screaming and moaning from other survivors, these sounds gradually died away during the night.

damn

my phone can tell me windspeed, so why cant the planes GPS system?

they relatively don't, same with cars, if everyone else is dying why bother making it safer? it's only statistics, right?

>French crew
The Airbus cope.

you're either fucking retarded or a roastie

>many survivors
They crashed into a forested mountain at like 400mph.
There were probably like 10-20 severely injured survivors (out of fucking 524 on board; they were packed like sardines) who died because the rescue wasn't fast enough

they were 4 survivors total

Laughably untrue. GPS and beacons provide ground speed, which is a different measurement than airspeed, with two completely different functions.

How often do commercial airliners have to refuel in mid-air? It's surely not a big issue.

CONTEXT?

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Pretty much never, that's more for like military stuff
Modern planes on their own fuel supply can pretty much go half the globe

Never. It's too expensive and the logistics would be a nightmare. Not to mention the safety factor, I doubt any airlines would get insurance for that kind of thing.

youtu.be/jM3CwBYX-ms
here

OP pic is just a random picture of pitot tubes - used to determine the speed of the aircraft.

Second pic is from a Japanese flight that downed in the 80s

The pictures are completely unrelated though, the Japan flight didn't go down because of anything to do with pitot tubes. The maintenance guys just did something retarded.
I think OP is just a schizo

>Air France flight 447

>The initial investigation concluded that the aircraft crashed after the airspeed sensors iced over, causing the autopilot to disconnect in the middle of stormy weather. This sparked an unexpected handover of control to the pilots, one of whom was not used to hand-flying at altitude and who reacted incorrectly by pulling the nose of the aircraft upwards.

>The pilot errors ultimately caused the aircraft to enter an aerodynamic stall – where the plane’s weight is no longer supported by the air flowing under the wings – and drop from the sky catastrophically at 11,000 feet per minute.

Why would you fly a plane before learning how to fly a plane?

Also if you are flying against the rotation of the earth you are basically flying backwards

is anyone gonna explain what the fuck you are talking about

Based Memri TV scientist

The japs knew what they were doing
>hey let us help
>ok sure thanks based usa send in troops
>ok that's it taken care of no problem, we installed a new capitalist government and destabilised the forest. btw there was no oil?
>taken care of? Where are the survivors?
>wait this was a rescue mission? What? Oh, no we don't do that sorry.

some luddite faggots think you cant use a GPS to measure how fast a plane is going

...

best idea i've heard today

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Fuck I remember watching that documentary in class a while back, pissed me off so much.
Not only did the copilot pull up the nose, he didn't tell the pilot he was doing it. The pilot was confused as fuck because he couldn't figure out what was happening. They were in freefall and the instruments were going crazy.
If you listen to the recordings, it sounds like he figured out what the copilot was doing right as it was too late

your saying if they were legit they could make the plane out of the same thing they make the black box out of, yeah?

based
keep shitskins mutts outta of your country

Dumbass
You do use gps on modern planes but all it can tell you is GROUNDSPEED
what is much more relevant information to pilots in flight is AIRSPEED, which is based off of air immediately outside the plane as a reference and can be the difference between life and death at critical points of flight like arrival and departure

It wasn't out of pride dumbass, they feared a Boeing consultant might go with the Americans to the rescue site and try to mess with the future investigation.

GPS measures the movement of the plane relative to the earth. This is almost useless for anything except navigation. Modern commercial jets use GPS and beacons for this positioning data.

Pitot tubes measure static air pressure, so the computer can calculate the dynamic between that and total pressure, so enough lift is being created.

Pitot tubes do NOT do the same thing as GPS, but I doubt you understand how any of it works in the first place, or why planes use both.

Damn, this based shitposter has managed to outthink every Aero Engineer on the planet. I can't believe nobody has ever thought to just bring a phone with GPS on board and do away with all those expensive instruments lol

maximum casualties

Planes have gone to shit since meme-tips were introduced.

[SINK RATE]
[STALL]
[PULL UP]

WOOP WOOP

>t. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

No I'm saying that everything is made to barely work. Just enough to get a job done but nothing else. it's not about materials it's about fail-safes. They could've make planes withstand more but it would cost more and probably they won't be able to transport 400 people at once. Money is everything. As long as they can get away with shitty tin can designs and blame everything on human factor no one is gonna change shit

wut? I'm not a burger, what did she say that at all resembled what I said? Doesn't she wanna ban planes or something?

wtf why did he kept pulling up when there was 58 warnings going "stall"

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>Pitot tubes measure static air pressure
You should read and understand the whole wiki article before trying to repeat it.
A pitot tube measures the dynamic pressure, a static port measures the static pressure, the difference gives the air speed. A combination of static/dynamic measuring is a pitot-static or prandtl tube.

>we installed a new capitalist government
get help

Because if you go more nose up you generate more lift

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what the fuck is this the original recording? Nobody talks like that.

>Pitot tubes measure static air pressure
>computer
>calculate the dynamic between that and total pressure, so enough lift is being created
wtf is this post

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>and destabilised the forest

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>Doesn't she wanna ban planes or something?
yeah she's a year zero type

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to be fair if you're in a panic is enormously counter intuitive to pull on the clochè and incrementally losing altitude

It's French m8

>"bet you i can land this plane with 80+ souls without windows!"
Famous last words

the plane is going too slow for the winds to produce sufficient lift

i understand fuck all about this, but it's basic shit that even a old gta game makes you intuitively understand, you dont pull all the way up cause you'll brick it

It was a joke smart boy I fly planes

>If you listen to the recordings, it sounds like he figured out what the copilot was doing right as it was too late
What was his reaction to this dumbfuck causing his death?

>I'm shitposting with pilots
user, stop pulling up

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>pull on the cloche
No wonder they crashed what was a fancy French waiter doing wheeling a hostess trolley with candelabra around the cockpit for anyway? Too distracting!!

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So what was the solution? Slight nose down, get some speed to produce lift until you stabilize?

it's at about 12mins

Aeroflot crashes are kino as fuck

Yes. In an impending stall the first thing you do is nose down enough to get your speed back up

Pretty much, but by the time the pilot figured out what was going on they'd lost too much altitude and it was far too late.

goddamn that vid made me angry

You'd figure the co-pilot would have realized the panicky rookie was pulling up after the 58 "STALL! STALL!"

Something to do with the engine power, I believe. Talking to a pilot yesterday, what he said was that the 737max has better engines than earlier models, which can give it a tendancy to nose up if the throttle is applied hard, leading to a risk of stalling. The plane has an automatic system in place which pushes the nose back down if it thinks that's happening. In both crashes the system kicked in when it shouldn't have, basically a software bug caused autopilot to take over and nosedive the plane into the ground.

Apparently if it happens there are two switches to the pilots right that they can flick to turn the system off. If they'd done that in either case then they would have been fine. It even happened to one of the planes the day before it crashed. Because they're new aircraft, the error occurs before they're at altitude, and there aren't any alarms or lights that go off to tell them that the system is operational, the pilots didn't have the time to figure out what was going on before they splatted into the ground.

You may not have noticed that commercial airline travel is incredibly safe, thanks to ma ix of regulation and just how incredibly bad for business it is if planes crash. There are only a couple of big aircraft manufacturers out there, Boeing is going to lose huge amounts of money over this, not in compensation so much as lost orders which will all go directly to Airbus. It's an absolute fucking disaster for them.

forgot pic

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Who will play them in the coming biopic?

youtube.com/watch?v=Ag1o3koTLWM

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I know and nobody talks like that in French. Sounds like a bunch of actors reading a script.

>pilot says
>lmao bet i can land with my eyes shut
>closes cockpit curtains
>crashes plane and flips it
someone post it i forget what flight it was

arent pilots trained to keep calm and talk in a matter of fact manner?

>huh, we crashed on a mountain, how odd

Underrated

just did also youtube.com/watch?v=RrttTR8e8-4

> software bug
Complete conjecture, countless hardware faults could have created a fault condition where the plane believed aoa was too high, even in this thread discussing frozen pitot tubes the angle sensors could similarly have frozen due to absolutely no fault simply bad design.

i hate zipheads

Just started watching this show. It's addictive. Amazing how many fatal crashes are caused by 1 simple malfunction or faulty part and also pilot stupidity. Makes me terrified to ever fly again.

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeroflot_Flight_6502

Wait is a pilot tube a real thing? every time I ask /k/ what something on a plane does they tell me it's a pilot tube so I thought it was made up.
I'm not going to google it though

>safe
Based on how long it took corrupt FAA to ground there max certainly there is a large element of luck in there too...

Injuries severe and it's wet.
>go get a match and light Muh fire.

>yep that's me, you're probably wondering how I ended up in this situation

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It's more than that, they switch randomly between using "tu" and "vous", and there's lots of sentence constructions that kinda sound too correct and proper to be real spoken French

piTot

pilots might not be native speakers

>letting kids play on the instrument of a moving plane
Jesus Christ Russians

>Lancaster survived with frostbite, bruising, shock, and fractures to his right arm, left thumb and right wrist.
>Lancaster returned to work after less than five months
Based

Japan air 123. Crashed into a mountain after flying uncontrollably for like an hour. Passengers had enough time to write farewell letters to family.

>Americans
user, I...

there's something really cute about this thread

what is jet fuel

hint: you get a lot of it in airplanes

>>refuse help from nearby US military base out of pride
Because they needed someone to rescue, not drone-bomb them.

BASED Ogden desu

this is some kino, any more like this?

>keep having plane crash nightmares

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>The crew believed him to be dead, but Atchison told the others to keep hold of him because his body might fly into the left engine and damage it

He says something like "you've killed us" if i remember correctly.

>Boeing wants to cut costs
>makes a plane with engines that don't normally fit on the wings right, this changes how the plane handles and makes it more prone to stalling
>to fix this problem with duct-tape, make an automatic system that pulls down regardless of pilot input if the system thinks the plane is about to stall
It was in my cunt's biggest newspaper a couple of days ago. So far literally hundreds of people dead in 737 crashes because Boeing made a cheap piece of shit kept in air by an easily malfunctioning system.

I have one too, i think it's cool. Plus it's funny on car keys since if you pull the keys out of a car it stops running but if you turn the key to OFF on a plane while you're flying it doesn't stop

>muh white devir
Looks like the radiation from the two bombings made them retarded lol

There are more sources of information than just the angle, if the software were written properly then it wouldn't have been capable of carrying out actions which could crash the plane. Altitude and airspeed should be enough to tell the autopilot that the plane isn't in a stall, so shouldn't be nosing down. If the software can override that and the pilots and send it into a dive then it's bad software, whether by design or accident.

>procrastinating from my aero engineering coursework by shitposting in a thread about plane crashes
I'm exactly the sort of tard who causes these accidents, I have to be stopped before I can get a degree lads

Because you pay the government to protect you.

fucking slavs, this explains that recent takedown of that plane over the russian boarder a few years back. They don't take safety seriously and can't adhere to rules.

it's so fucking lucky that his legs hooked that way.

Bane?

IT'S ..... THE END !!

>aaaaaaaaah save me Nigel

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That can't be entirely right. They put blackbox recorders in these crafts to make sure the same errors don't happen again, whether or not it's human error or mechanical.
Also a plane crash takes out 150 people, yeah they get absorbed by statistics but initially it will always draw attention to the aircraft developers.

It's worse than that. The system would work if it cross-referenced the other sensors, but that costs extra. Boeing basically turned a redundant safety feature into DLC.

Who here subscribed to VASAviation and AirforceProud95?

they're probably wiping the sweat off their brows since they have a few cheeky terrorist attacks to draw public focus away from their misdeeds.

You need to combust jetfuel at very high heat to get it to be useful for heat/burning, you can't just light it with a match you retard
youtube.com/watch?v=7nL10C7FSbE

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Give me a quick rundown

This is the point, right? If it were properly designed then it would be a fully integrated part of the autopilot, but instead they installed a system which overrides everything else based on an on/off input from a single sensor.

>tfw you will never love aviation as much as this boi right here

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'Mariko, Tsuyoshi, Chiyoko,
Be good to each other and work hard.
Help your mother.
It's sad, but I'm sure I won't make it.
I don't know the cause.
It's been five minutes now.
I don't want to take any more planes.
Please god help me.
To think that our dinner last night was the last time.
There was some sort of explosion in the cabin
There was smoke and we started to descend
Where are we going, what will happen?
Tsuyoshi , I'm counting on you
Darling, it's too bad that this has happened.
Goodbye
Please take good care of the children
It's 6:30 now.
The plane is turning around and descending rapidly.
I am grateful for the truly happy life I have enjoyed until now.'

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Is a picture from Japan Air flight 123.
Basically the vertical stabilizer ripped off, making the plane's turns hard to control. This would have been survivable, but then they also started to rapidly lose hydraulics fluid, effectively making the plane unsteerable. They couldn't move any of the flaps, so their only option to keep it in the sky was to change the thrust on the engines to make the plane turn and descend/rise.
Doing this is almost impossible, and most pilots who later tried this scenario on flight computers crashed in a couple of minutes, while the jap pilots kept it flying for over half an hour.
They tried to divert to a nearby airport, but a mountain was in the way and increasing engine power was simply not enough to get the plane over it.
What he's alluding to is the fact than an american airbase offered assistance with rescue efforts but the japs declined because muh samurai honor. Reports from the 4 survivors state that they heard wailing and screaming long after the crash, so more people could have survived if rescuers would have gotten there in time.

Whats the deal with airplanes? Why dont they just make the whole plane out of the same material as the black box?

>windscreen has the wrong bolts in it
>when the time comes to replace the bolts, instead of looking at the specifications, the engineer just used the same bolts as before
>windscreen comes off midflight and the pilot gets sucked out the window
>his legs get wrapped around the controls and the plane starts falling
>some of the crew grab his belt and hold him half in the plane
>even though they assume he's dead they can't let him go because he could fly into an engine
>based copilot lands the plane without a fuss
>based pilot managed to fucking survive and was back to work until he retired

this is quite informative but I really dislike the casual effort this autist has around these materials lmao

are you guys trying to make me never ride a plane? its working.

>Japan air 123
>Some passengers survived the initial crash but subsequently died of their injuries hours later, mostly due to the Japan Self-Defense Forces’s decision to wait until the next day to go to the crash site, after declining an offer from a nearby United States Air Force base to start an immediate rescue operation.

Oh my god fucking nips

Reminder that Sully was at fault to begin with and any pilot could have flown the plane back to a landing strip safely.

Planes are by far the safest form of travel

>Plane survives
>everything inside is soup because people flinging around inside

Commercial aircraft land after engine failure all the time, you literally have no idea what you’re talking about.

>just fucking falls off
>*heh, nothing personell, kidd*

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inertial navigation system

Imagine getting into a giant flying box controlled by a human who doesn't even have to have a high school diploma being directed by people on the ground who also consist of high school dropouts.

Why do you think othet methods haven't been tried by much smarter people than you and I?

good thing is that if your country has pride in training it's pilots and takes care of it's crafts then you shouldnt be in an accident. Rule out all 3rd world shitholes to travel to.

No amount of special high impact resistant is going to help you survive a crash into the ground at several hundred miles per hour

Because your phone isn’t measuring the windspeed, the local weather station is and you get the data from the internet. There is no local weather station 10,000 feet up.

>if your country has pride in training it's pilots and takes care of it's crafts then you shouldnt be in an accident. Rule out all 3rd world shitholes to travel to.
Ironically the US is one of those 3rd world countries. Pilots are treated like shit

Major airlines pretty much only hire pilots with at least a bachelor's and 1500 flight hours

Well why don't they just drone one up their?

>just fucking falls off

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Okay, aviation autists, listen to this one:
Why don't we just attach parachutes to planes? A good percentage of crashes could have been prevented if the pilots just had an option to gently glide to the ground.

How is it different? If you're going 10 MPH you're going 10 MPH whether you're in the air or on the ground. How can you be going 10 MPH in the air but less "on the ground"?

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Funny how you take out a bolt anywhere on a plane and these things get crippled.
They're still cool though.

dumbass

They actually do that for Cirrus aircraft

>The crew believed him to be dead, but Atchison told the others to keep hold of him because his body might fly into the left engine and damage it.

brutal, but admirable

That would be a big parachute

So how much money is Boeing standing to lose on the new crashwagons they built?

in theory an explosive charge at the head of the plane would be safer
just aim straight for the ground, then detonate the bomb so the energy from below equals the one of the fall and everyone is safe

stahp
im going on vacation in less than a month and i dislike flying

He's a china shill tho

I remember being a kid and having nightmares about planes crashing well before I even considered what they were doing in the sky.

If you think flying is bad, go to /o/ and check out the crash report thread
Driving is so much less safe than flying and yet I'm sure you do it every day

>stahp
I hope you die re ddit or

Me too. The weird thing is that it's always on a 747 even though I've never flown on one before. And for some reason I always end up in control of the plane and crash it because it gets caught in power lines or trees.

It's good though, hurtling thousands of miles in the air at tremendous speed, knowing that to be safe you need to rely on humans on the ground and in the air. There's nothing wrong with getting in an object so safe that before every journey you are told "how to live in case you die".

Flying a plane requires years of training and good selection yet some retards slip in anyway, cars are available to everyone.

The weight of commercial airliners is too much to make parachutes feasible.

>dont drink drive
>dont look at my phone while driving
>dont drive like a retard
nah driving isnt safe

Wake up, user
pull up
PULL UP

Did you know that EVERY plane has cracks all over the fuselage? The inspection team just makes sure that the cracks are of an 'acceptable' size and just drill a hole to stop them getting bigger.
Hope you feel safer :)

Dude it's the air what's generating the lift.
It's like saying that 10MPH are the same on the ground and in a 5MPH current in the water

IT'S REDDITOR YOU FAGGOT
FUCK THE MODS AND FUCK THE JANNIES

whats your source?

He's just a zoomer, adapting to a new world order.
Can you blame him?

What matters for a plane is your speed relatively to the air around you.

yes, I can and I will

Reminder that TWA Flight 800 was accidentally shot down by US Navy, but covered up Clinton gang because election year.

Stop pretending to be me

That's not a conspiracy user it's common knowledge. Known cracks are fine as long as they aren't in critical locations.
They don't make the flight any less safe, but it's just a fun fact that sounds spooky to people who don't know shit about planes.

Stop talking to yourself

>737max has better engines than earlier models, which can give it a tendancy to nose up

No, it's because engine is way too big to mount where it's supposed to go, so they mounted it further forward and slightly up to maintain the minimum ground clearance below the engine, and that's why the balance tipped forward requiring use of MCAS to create a layer of pseudo-autopilot even in manual mode to make it that pilots don't have to constantly adjust to stop the nose from going up.

It's a complete design clusterfuck created to reuse the old 737 frame and maintain the same cockpit to keep the type rating (i.e. FAA won't make airlines retrain the pilots for the new plane).

It’s common knowledge, fatigue from pressurizing the cabin causes hairline fractures in the aluminum. A rupture won’t bring cause a crash though, but the cabin will get depressurized and the plane will need to make an emergency landing.

nigger

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How can a kite fly in the wind while you stand still?

RETARD...RETARD...RETARD...

the only remotely dangerous stuff he's got there is the gasoline/av-100 and you would have to either pour it all over yourself and light it or tip it all out on the ground and wait for some of it to evaporate before standing in front of it and lighting it.

hello hirohito you are supposed to be dead lol ching chang chong spaghetti with jambon

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You never know if the other drivers around you aren’t doing those things, though.

AirForce 1 just ATE SHIT on a runway

How so?

My entire family does that shit. Sometimes they stop on the road to get into street fights.

I have a part time job cleaning inside airplanes. Mostly the 737. So almost every night I and my colleague have an entire plane to ourself. I'm always nervous when I clean and vacuum the cockpit to accidentally hit some switch or something. But it's also nice getting to do something most people don't.

youtube.com/watch?v=hxyhulJYz5I

You guys better buy dash cams for your own protection

In the 80's it was apparently common to let random kids into the cockpit. I've flown like 3 times in my life and I've been on the cockpit of an airliner.

i dont think you know what common knowledge means

hahaha

Meh, it can't be that bad, like the other user said, they used to let kids and shit in there only reason they don't know is because of the fatwa fuckers.

Not like boats, been on many of those and the captains will just let anyone steer those for a while if they ask to.

>>destabilised the forest
Quality kek

Based

Way harder to fuck up a boat in the ocean though by steering around. You're right that security rules now are fucking stupid. I think the largest threat to aviation comes from people working at the airport or on the plane. The security guards barely check our car so if I really wanted to I could basically bring with me whatever I want on the plane.

>this is the low iq retard we share a board with

And when I say barely check I mean opening the doors, shining a flashlight and that's it.

Making Airstunts Xtreme

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You work at a DMV and that's the photo ID you see 70% of the time user.

The air is moving and keeps the kite up, but the kite itself has no speed.

>implying air is real
>implying wind isn't just invisible rain

>My ancestors are smiling at me gaijin, can you say the same?

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So this is the white master race they keep bragging about

Air is real, but it's actually water. We actually are aquatic apes who live at the bottom of a miles deep ocean. Planes are just submarines and space ships are boats.

Minimal Airspeed, eXtreme!

>tfw going on a flight to Ecuador in a few months

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you'd be pumped full of adrenaline and doing stupid stuff too if you'd just dodged death with no injuries

Godspeed, user

Hope u will survive