So you are unemployed, post on a film discussion forum for 12 hours a day...

it depends.

are you willing to listen to what they have to say

lots of people say they are but arent actually

if you're genuinely pretty fucked up/ an outcast it can be extremely difficult to see any measurable results from it. I believe that you can improve yourself enough to be somewhat semi functional as a sperglord with enough exposure and socialisation. but the whole concept of therapy is based around what normal people seek. the difference between a normal person who gains something from therapy is that the therapy might help them do things they want to do like go out and and socialise/ join clubs etc. the aspie outcast is very hard to integrate into this kind of therapy because our tastes and enjoyments are usually so niche and isolated compared to the average person and we simply don't derive the same amount of enjoyment from things like social engagements and pro social activities.
there's also the thing where normal people usually have a friendly/ sociable personality and they can reframing their self perception can change everything. where as the isolated autist usually has a personality that will never truly be compatible with most people and genuinely receives negative perceptions from most people

Just give me the benzos doc. This SSRI shit anit working!

Job Interview
> so what do you like to do for fun?

Pretentious and also true

Depends on how weird you are. Usually it helps

do they really ask this in muttland?

The first time I meant this one psych during an evaluation where he gets a baseline he thought out the clique maybe you were molested as a child. I said na didn’t happen he said how would you know?

I went home and checked his reviews from other patients. They all mentioned he said the same thing.

[screams internally]

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Yea they ask so many shit questions.

I function perfectly normal socially (barring gf) I'm more afraid of what they'll diagnose me with so I'd rather not know

probably just to see how you present yourself. the actual answers probably don't matter

There is a certain desert tribe that tends to be involved with most scams. Look to see if they are involved in the industry. If they are, that answers your question.

>get drunk with people who you thought were your friends
>"HAHA i bet user's secretly a serial killer!"

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it's banter

>secretly am

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If any of them were girls they might be into you

DOCTOR HELP. I'M 20

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>addressing symptoms instead of finding the problem
And you expect me to pay hundreds of dollars an hour for this "service"?

>20

fucking enjoy the next 5 years don't waste them here like I did. being a loser neet past 25 is an abyss nobody should go down. I fucking have a third of the physical and mental energy I had just a few years ago

Yes. Why AM I this way. What's wrong with me? Doc? Help me. Help me doc.

I don't really know if it helped me. All I learned was that my single mother and my sister were the sole reason for all my problems.

The thing is, I don't really know what I should do with that information.

phew one year to go. I still have time to turn it around.

This there are way too many women in the field. Women can barely understand the world around them how can they be trusted?

same here buddy. where are you in life?

Kill them all

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Good post
Sperglords shall inherit the earth amirite

I’ve been here for ten years now. So much time lost. So much mental and emotional decline. Please leave now. Save yourself. You’ll be here forever is not a meme

Based and underrated

>Bane? Tell me about this Bane, why does he wear the mask?

Unemployed, live with parents, no education. Just started learning how to drive this past week though.

i am 29 and neet for Eleven years,so ist time for suicide right?

But how
How do i break the circle doctor?
I've been here since i was a little edgelord.
I have no friends, experience and im about to drop out of college

Plot twist there was no doc. You were the doc all along. And also a gay

Therapists are for people with no ability for introspection. Prove me wrong. My therapist told me no new ideas. They offer nothing over the basic advice on the internet. From my experience you are basically paying someone to be your accountability buddy.

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I had a very serious depression, or like you Yea Forums anons call it: a meme illness. Talking with a professional therapist helped me a lot. But I also made the same experience as this user I had three different therapists in 2 years. Two of them were women and the one who really helepd me get back on track was one of the smartest men I ever met. I am glad that this person exists. tldr; If you think that you need help try it, whats the worst that can happen?

all my problems are caused by genetic and environmental stress. I'm essentially having a perpetual panic attack 24/7 unless I take benzos or alcohol. My amygdala sees every human as a threat and my empathy centres are completely rotted

> I got turned down for disability that I really actually needed and not to be a neet.

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Jesus, better hurry up. Go to uni or at least community college.

>Therapists are for people with no ability for introspection.
That makes perfect sense actually.

what should I study?

Basically it's like going to your local church and have a conversation with your local priest or community helper who get kicks out of helping people but you pay $200 for it.

that is not something anybody could answer. Some say take a STEM degree and suffer for 4yrs and enjoy a steady job, or take an arts degree and enjoy 4 fun uni years and shit work life. Tbh I've known successful people from both sides, so maybe do something that interest you but still sound useful

>That's not what therapists do
Sometimes therapists can get "mean", they have to jolt you out of your complacency

tried hard to turn life around at 24. lost all will after 25th birthday

>Is therapy a scam?
Not completely
>I think I might need it
If you can afford it do it. You post on Yea Forums for fucks sake, your life has already hit rock bottom, you can't go any lower

How weird is it to go to college when you're a lot older than all the other students? Probably a stupid thing to be concerned about but it's on my mind a lot.

Those are only symptoms though. Depression is an actual illness. It's a chemical imbalance.

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I'm so autistic that I'm trying to turn my life around and get money for the sole purpose of buying weed on tor because I can't face the ordeal of having to ask people if they know anyone who sells weed

>Therapies
Trust me if you can't muster enough willpower to turn your life around then having some meme therapist pushing the burden of guilt onto your parents, society, systematic racism etc. will only reinforce your flaws as you continue to be a delusional, heartbroken millennial who can't deal with the fact that maybe he isn't as special and as smart as everyone around him told him. Baby steps.

>pushing the burden of guilt onto your parents, society, systematic racism etc
Therapists don't do that though

i had the same experience with two psychologists i went to.

"oh so you reach out for something in the world and when the result doesnt please you, you become unsatisfied?"
"i see, so [proceeds to formulate a summary of everything ive told her in the past 10 minutes]? thats interesting"
"hmm yes, there are a lot of things indeed right with what you said"

bitch please, are you on crack? i could get better advice on /r9k/

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my problem is being too self aware. is there any remedy for that?

depends on how cool you are. I know this one guy who worked as a full time plumber, then decided to be a ski instructor, then decided to settle down and be an engineer. He's 27, but everybody likes him because he's basically a very nice chad. It all depends on you desu

yeah, i watched that show too

Yes, stop being self aware
A therapist could help imo but she will tell you to stop being self aware
It's up to you to stop being so self aware
Usually therapists suggest group therapy to people with avoidant personality disorders, confidence issues or too self aware which is both cheaper and more fun and interesting

If your prime income was disability you would still be a NEET
>"Not in Education, Employment, or Training"

Disability payments siphoned from the tax payers is the definition of neetbux

>he’s a chad
Well no shit everybody liked hin

>have a couple of weeks of hope and motivation
>it all comes crashing down and you realise it was nothing more than a delusional fantasy

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>tfw 28 y/o NEET
>treatment-resistant depression
>tried dozens of meds, therapists, diet/exercise, even ECT
>still hopeless
>have anxiety-induced panic attacks on the daily

I just wish there was something that called to me. Something that I could fixate upon to distract me from the bad thoughts. But there's nothing. I never developed a passion for anything. I just played vidya and watched TV/movies all day.

One of these days I'm gonna get shitfaced and burn some charcoal in the back of my car.

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>group therapy

I literally cannot put a single sentence together around more than 5 people unless I've had six drinks

Try again, it's not like you have anything better to do, it's either try or kill yourself

>priest
Thank god I'm not a boy anymore.
>community helper
Have the same issues and no clue. But thanks for trying.

A therapist is the best option if help is needed and wanted.

Try group therapy, it's really nice and you will gain a completely different perspective to other people that you never had

>plan on going to college in 3 years
>will be 30 by then

Why is everyone so fucking normal and manages to graduate on time? Why are you all so functional and productive?

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well I don't fucking know who you are Mr user but chances are if you're not a complete sperg you'll be fine

Are you me?

>Women can barely understand the world around them
So, like millennials and modern political activists?

because they had non traumatic, stable childhoods in functional stable households. a normalfag going about their day is as easy and natural as waking up a 1pm and browsing Yea Forums all day and fapping for hours is to a neet. normal people don't genuinely have to put immense effort into life because they hit all the right developmental paths at the right time. which is why they find it so hard to understand how anyone could be a neet etc

Yes it is, 100% of the times.
They charge you for telling you the most obvious stuff.
They are not going to tell you nothing you can't already guess.

God I wish that were me

>because they had non traumatic, stable childhoods in functional stable households

So did I.

And I know of many people who come from unstable households and are successful.

Just what is it that made me this way? Is it the randomness of the genes?

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>So did I.
Me too
>And I know of many people who come from unstable households and are successful.
Same
>Just what is it that made me this way? Is it the randomness of the genes?
You somehow didn't take the important life lessons in the right age and some wrong ideas steered your life in the wrong direction
It happens

what have you been doing till today?

No, it's hard work and perseverance. When you don't have an example at home you can do the shit for yourself or just be lazy. Most of us chose the second path.

recently started taking ashwagandha and a few other herbs and it seems to be helping my anxiety and brain fog a lot

This
Why do they think retelling the problem I described solves anything?

Not entirely. Some counselors are hacks, same as any other medical professional. My therapist usually offers solid advice and techniques on how to manage the things that cause stress. That's what he harps about, managing stress. It's not about eliminating stress, because stress isn't really a "bad" thing, it's more about living with it and functioning in society.

Your best bet is to go in and say "this is how I am feeling, I want to make changes to be healthier, nothing I am trying is working and I am lost for ideas". You don't go in looking for someone to pat your ass and say you're special, you go in like you're going to a mechanic to find out why your fuel intake is fucked.

I don't remember writing this and it was only 5 minutes ago so no don't think so. Unless I have amnesia.

Did you have parents that ever pushed you or forced you to do anything? I didn't which is how I ended up here. I'm not trying to sound ungrateful and saying it's not my fault because they're cool people but looking back I wish they were way more forceful.

Going to college in computer science meme which I absolutely hate everything about. Barely passed any exams because you need to study and I have close to 0 attention span and maybe a sub 100 IQ. It was basically just procrastinating entering the work force.

I wish I could do something artisting but so do 100000000 other people who are more talented, have more experience, are harder workers, are more social, are good looking, have rich parents, have connected parents oh boy I could go on. Just getting a well paying job is the best case scenario for me but going 9-5+ to a job I hate only to engage in shallow consumption of media because I have no energy for anything else doesn't sound very appealing.

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These are American neet bucks though

at least I'm glad I got over my obsession with Russian preteen instagram models

try traveling. No its not a cliche, going outside your comfort zone really does change a person. Maybe try not bringing your phone, get lost, you're not doing anything anyway

>Tells depressed anons to literally get lost
Based and Chadpilled

This makes a lot of sense. Most normies have life on easy mode especially if they're good-looking, intelligent and their parents are rich. Normies usually shame or even bully people that aren't like them but they don't understand how it is to be not normal. They wouldn't even survive if you put them in a broken home even as an adult, they would probably start crying after a short while. I always blamed myself and even others (like school, parents, family, classmates) blamed me for being the way I am but it is my upbringing that completely damaged me. It's pretty much impossible to change that.

Define old. My friends were ~33 and they didn't even seem like the oldest in our program. Most of the "'"'kids''"' you see get weeded out in the first year (in ECE at least). Then you get stuck with the same 25 people the last two and a half years

I don't see how it's bad advice

No it's not bad advice, it's just a funny grammatical coincidence.

although I agree with you because I have a similar life experience. telling yourself the narrative constantly that you're like how you are because of your past will actually lead you down a darker path where you give up on absolutely everything. this is not good in any capacity. the hardest thing about being damaged is being able to recognise that you were damaged in ways outside of your control but you also do have the ability to take some semblance of control over your life.
it's much easier to just either blame everyone else or entirely blame yourself. it's much harder to integrate them both into a nuanced way

No, I agree but my problem is actually the opposite, actually telling myself not to blame myself and to accept my defects. I always tell myself that my situation is fairly normal and changeable compared to what others might have experienced like child sexual abuse victims or people who have seen their entire family being killed in front of their eyes while they were young.

>27 year old neet virgin

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18, non-virgin, getting a job soon. See ya later incels!

Turn gay

Wakie wakie wagie

I’m a wagecuck but I really do wish I was NEET. My job is so awful and it feels like I’m just going through the motions every day.

therapy is why i get my mental illness neetbux and why I post here because I've nothing else to do

Change your diet, exercise regularly, find a hobby or volunteer. If you don't feel better after that, go see a sociology major with tattoos who will put you on SSRI's and tell you to eschew all responsibility and that you're the center of the universe.

How did you get your mental illness NEETbux?

My life is exactly that

Do you think the normies know that we waste all our free time on mindless internet shit?

>Thank god I’m not a boy anymore
>t. Discord tranny

live in a socialist european state, they basically give money away here

This tbqh, no woman can ever tell a man what he needs to hear in order to pull himself together

God I hope not

sometimes it is. oftentimes it is not. be prepared that if cognitive behavioral therapy seems extremely obvious to you and does not work, you are going to have a very hard time. the prevailing wisdom in all levels of psychiatry is now CBT

I think they think I play fortnite or some shit and I just don't correct them. Only my discord friends see I'm online 24/7 and have no gaming activity.

They only bad thing about neet is uncertainty, you are basically homeless with access to a home. I skill up and work one month/week in something new each year just to prove to myself I still can provide value if I had to.

When I think about trading my decade of NEETness for what my peers have, sex, relationships, friends, house, family, cars, holidays, choice of hobbies, etc, I just can't fathom having to entertain the daily fantasies of the worst kinds of people who are just reflections of some incentive or other, and then letting that infect me.

just take a SHIT load of psychedelics, I mean a lot, it'll do more good than therapy ever can, it'll allow you to see your problems without the subjective 'I'm the main character of my life' narrative that everyone lives with, chances are you're probably unconsciously aware of what's wrong you're just not willing to accept it

>provide value
stop judging your value by how many zog-bux (toilet paper with numbers on it) you can contribute. the government only uses your taxes to replace and genocide you. it took me a long time to internalize this, but it's true. fuck the rat race, who here /economic exit/?

makes sense, talking to people about my problems never helped because i already knew all the angles and what i could do generally speaking

>chemical imbalance
where is the proof? this is propaganda by kike doctors to put you on SSRI's and for them to get their under the table commission.
maybe society is just broken, degenerate and sick and you fell through the cracks? chemical imbalance my fucking ass.

This for sure

Thats a lot of sadness for a ten year old

>he thinks browsing Yea Forums is the problem and not living an isolated, stagnant lifestyle

We waste our time browsing this places, normies waste their time browsing social media.

Just talk to yourself, its completely normal and free. No one knows you like yourself. Unless you're an NPC then kys my dude

How can you be sure whether or not you're an npc? Is there some kind of test I can do?

But I don't even watch movies...

The fact that you have the introspective ability to even ask yourself that shows you're not an NPC. An NPC would never even think to question something like that.

The first years are hell but the kids fall off the mountain pretty quick and by third year it's only a bunch of bookworms or 25+yos. I had a 70yo and a 60yo guy in one of my accounting classes once.

A lot of people have a need for external validation and it's less effort to pay a therapist than develop close relationships

I disagree. I think that it's so obvious for me that the question doesn't even need to be asked.

They do too so it's no mystery to them, the only difference is we shitpost on here instead of instagram or snapchat or whastapp.

My psych just tells me to stop being a fucking pussy, go out and shag cunt.

Went for a walk on the beach yesterday and crossed paths with some chad and his mom. The chad had some thousand yard stare going on and his mom was yelling at him about shit.
Eventually they sat down on the sand and she started telling him that he had to snap out and fix his shit and that he had to change his ways, while the guy was just hiding his face between his knees. I guess he dropped out of college or got very close to.

Therapy is a huge scam. After my parents got divorced my father wanted to do a joint father / son therapy session. Hearing his narrative of my upbringing and our relationship actually did a bunch of damage to our relationship and my own understanding of my childhood. I thought I had a great childhood, but apparently I was under constant emotional abuse by my parents. The session felt like an opportunity for my dad to cry and invent a story worthy of a Hollywood script treatment about our relationship. The therapist did nothing to stop it and seemed unaware that she was essentially a tool for my dad. The only good thing to come from it (for me) was it made me realized that my dad is somewhat of a baby emotionally and when I talk with him I need to make sure he feels loved, respected, and appreciated. Bizarre. We're both grown ass man. Fuck therapy and fuck therapists.

>and their parents are rich.

even though i´m an awkward sperg, at least that part i got covered

>user, I'm afraid that suicide might be the best option for you

>tfw rich family
Jesus if it wasn’t for them I’d be so fucked

same bros. I have enough money from my job that I can live and put away some $ every month, but I don't want to feel like I inherited everything in life. I want to be self made.

It is. Unless you're an extrovert who likes to talk about his life (in which case it might help), it's completely pointless. I believe talking about your issues with someone could help, but why would you discuss them with a complete stranger if you can't even talk to family members and friends honestly.
I went twice and was basically lying the whole time.

>no, did you not heard what I was saying? I was talking about the jannies

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>I want to be a wagecuck even though I don't have to be

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Don’t fall for the self made meme user.
Take your money when it comes and enjoy it

>single mother
Truth is the game was rigged from the start

Reminder that the majority of psychological studies cannot be reproduced.
Reminder that psychologists literally have no fucking idea what they're talking about.

How the fuck do I fix my life then?

I assume so I have no experience but I cried in front of a careers adviser when discussing being neet for 3 years. I felt much better afterwards and I am now working in business intelligence.

Well, talking DOES help. You should just take everything they say with a grain of salt. If you're depressed, find an anti-depressant that works for you. Then, focus on making objective improvements to your life, like increasing physical fitness, not abusing drugs, and reading instead of using a screen. That's the best you can do at this point in history. We simply don't fully understand the brain yet.

How do you explain to your therapist and everyone that loves you that even though you're not actually depressed you can't be bothered doing anything like get a job or study because the world is fucking doomed and you prefer spending your days inside masturbating to foot porn?

>Well, user, if I wear yo-, I mean this 'Bane' friend of yours..

>wake up at 8 or 9 am, after watching Federer lose late at night
>browse internet, finish coffee in the house
>replace my old laptop with my new one (could help me break my habits)
>go to gym
>lifting goes well, go back home, have healthy food
>go outside
>don't bother walking, just waste time in car, browsing internet on phone, contemplating the pointlessness of a zero motivation life
>see lots of happy stusent zoomer normies in the primes of their lives and feel like a boomer, except unhappy
>plan to go for a short walk and I don't know what after that: maybe one final fast food and junk food binge, to spur a life epiphany
>pseudy book is within arms reach but I am procrastinating reading it

How the hell do I get the motivation to do anything productive in my free time?

When I woke up I realised that if I wanted to be productive, I'd probably have to wake up at 7 and start by 9, or else I'd be kidding myself about my productivity. What a cucked existence. I hate working hard. I hate doing no work. I hate everything in-between.

It's sunny and clear skyed. This reminds me of that really fucking aimless summer after university but before my first good job, where I'd go to the cinema a lot to feel less alone. I didn't drive so much back then, so I'd get the bus and browse the internet as it went around the entire route. I would go to my city's fairly crappy library but it felt like being a loser who couldn't do something productive, like make millions through programming at home or anything else a smart and high energy person would do. Of course it was all futile and I stayed bored, unproductive, lacking all motivation.

Flashback 2: Me, less than a year ago, sleepily working in a retailcuck job in the morning, at the start of a 9 hour shift, working out how many hours until I have enough money to not bother with work until I move back to London. Of course since then I've wasted shitloads on junk food and need to work full time for 2 months to be comfortably NEET.

>12 hrs
fucking casuals like you are what is wrong with my life

>muh peer-reviewed studies
it's not just psychology studies, it's literally all peer reviewed studies in all sciences. at least 50% of them are pseudoscience meaning fake.

a real therapist would be bound by confidentiality to never share anything except you saying you were about to kill someone else or yourself

newsflash: modern urban life is ultimately pointless, with the high notes all being centered around materialism and high time-preference decisions. people were not meant to live this way, hence the rampant increase in mental issues and drug use.

If I had a dollar for every time my therapist told me "its okay, I'm not going to tell your mother" and then turned right around and told her that evening I would be able to go get a pizza right now. Most therapists are sociopathic liars, they just love the power they get. Some do it solely to ruin lives, therapists are pieces of shit and only loyal to whomever wrote them a check

>I want to be self made.
This is a retarded meme user. You should be taking the advantages you ancestors worked to give you, anything else runs counter to the theory of evolution. Meritocracy is an attack meme made up by poor childless faggots.

>/r9k/
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