>constantly told Craig-era Bond is shit
>Casino Royale is great
>Skyfall is even better
>Spectre isn't perfect but a solid watch that's the closest to classic Bond
>Quantum of Solace is the only bad movie of the bunch
Why did you lie to me Yea Forums? The worst thing about his run aside from QoS is that there's no great Bond theme yet. Adele might be the closest we'll get.
Truth too much to bare?
Casino Royale's theme is a legitimately good song though. I forget that it's a bond theme.
The films are good despite Craig. Brosnan was given awful scripts.
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I love casino royale and skyfall. Quantum was completely forgettable and I never saw spectre but I'm guessing it wasn't bad
Radiohead's rejected theme for Spectre was great. the one they used instead is garbage
Spectre is ok, better than Quantum but the ending is weak
Its not bad but I've been spoiled by the classics
>Quantum of Solace is the only bad movie of the bunch
LOL. QoS is kino.
>The worst thing about his run aside from QoS is that there's no great Bond theme yet. Adele might be the closest we'll get.
You Know My Name isn't a good Bond theme?! Go home, OP. You're drunk.
>Skyfall is even better
lmao
>Skyfall good
>Spectre even watchable
>QoS bad
big yikes
Craig Bond is good. The movies are much more realistic. I know some people dislike that but it was a breath of fresh air after Brosnan. Hopefully they find a middle ground between grounded and fantasy in the future.
i love daniel craig
piers brosnan's only good bond film was golden eye. die another day is the worst bond movie
Skyfall was a fun action film, Spectre and QoS were hot garbage
But holy fuck was Casino Royale kino. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise, that shit was fun at fuck.
ARM YOURSELF BECAUSE NO ONE ELSE HERE WILL SAVE YOUUU
THE ODDS WILL BETRAY YOUUU
AND I WILL REPLACE YOUUU
I liked Tomorrow Never Dies and The World Is Not Enough.
>>Skyfall is even better
oof
Spy films are just capeshit but with brits
>Idris Elba... they keep trying to meme as the new Bond
Not a chance. Cavill will be Bond.
Who was the better Bond, Moore or Pierce?
>Yea Forums is full of contrarian cunts that hate everything modern
Why would you ever listen to this board? Most posters don't even watch the movies they bitch about.
Casino Royale and Quantum are the best two. Skyfall is overrated and gets worse the more you rewatch it. Spectre's first half up until they kill Batista was a good movie. It goes downhill after that.
>Casino Royale and Quantum are the best two.
This. QoS can be watched as the second part as it starts moments after QoS.
>Spectre's first half up until they kill Batista was a good movie. It goes downhill after that.
Spectre is the new Die Another Day.
YOU CAN'T DENY THE PRIZE IT MAY NEVER FULFILL YOU. IT LONGS TO KILL YOU. ARE YOU WILLING TO DIIIIEEE?
I think Die Another Day is still the worse. To this day I've never fully watched it. I'd watch an hour, go away for 20 minutes and then try to finish the film.
I think people dislike them because they are too serious and similar to Mission Impossible movies
bizarrely, die another day was my first bond movie, I still hate it
>Not a chance. Cavill will be Bond.
I'd pick Richard Madden. Cavill is busy with The Witcher.
Pierce. Moore had more bad movies.
>Cavill will be Bond
Idris Elba Bond is a "meme". It was never meant to be taken seriously, it's nothing more than a joke. The next Bond will be Cillian Murphy, and you know it's true.
honestly to be bond you need an interesting face, you need to be recognizable and not generically pretty. murphy fits in with that, but so days nicholas hoult and charlie hunnam
>LOL. QoS is kino.
It's objectively bad you fucking retard. Imagine being such a contrarian that you actively think bad films are kino just because most people hate it.
I didn't even think of that. He'd be a good one.
>I think Die Another Day is still the worse.
Agreed but there is still a good film in there. Right up to the ice palace.
>I'd pick Richard Madden
Way too uptight and manlet looking to be taken seriously as Bond.
>Cillian Murphy, and you know it's true.
I don't mind actually. I still see him as a villain though.>honestly to be bond you need an interesting face, you need to be recognizable and not generically pretty.
This. Bond needs to stand out but most importantly must be ethically British.
Godfuckingdammit you suck so much OP holy shit I can't even go into it.
he's almost too old though, we need someone under 45 and he only barely makes it. ideally we should have someone under 40. we don't need someone being over 60 years old in their fifth outing.
Casino Royale is awesome, I don't think anyone's ever said anything about that. Skyfall is just alright and the other two are pure crap, though. All in all, not a very good run.
>Way too uptight and manlet looking to be taken seriously as Bond.
I would have went with Andy Lincoln if he didn't piss away a decade on TWD.
I agree, we should be using that image as our starting point. just take that picture and add 10% quirk factor and you got what you need.
Moore turned the franchise into a joke and Moonraker is objectively rock bottom for the series.
TWINE is seriously underrated.
TND is incredibly bland. Nothing offensively bad but you can skip it and miss nothing at all.
>we don't need someone being over 60 years old in their fifth outing.
If we get Brosnan back for one more then I don't mind.
QoS is the only good Craig film
Brosnan was great in bad movies, Craig was mediocre in good movies.
Fassbender should be next, but he's probably too good for Bond.
well, never say never again i guess...
Cillian is 42 but he looks much younger than his numerical age. He has the acting chops to bring gravitas to the character. I think he would make a great James Bond.
In that case, we're looking for someone who was born in the 80s.
>Jamie Bell
>Josh Bowman
>Jamie Campbell Bower
>Henry Cavill
>Tom Burke
>Charlie Cox
>Arthur Darvill
>Gareth David-Lloyd
>Kit Harington
>Tom Hiddleston
>Nicholas Hoult
>Charlie Hunnam
>Clive Standen
There are a lot of good choices!
As the years go by, the calls for Cavill will only grow more and more impossible to ignore. The more his face starts to whether with age the more perfect and obvious he is as the perfect man for the role.
You're a fucking pleb. It has one of the best moments not only in the Craig Saga but in the entire series.
Forgot the pic
QoS is pleb filter
If he's not it, who is the backup? See .
best bets here are Hoult and Hunnam. think how many more years you could get out of Hoult, and he's already had lots of experience and he MUST be looking for that one big role to define his career.
I think Moore was a good Bond but he definitely had the silliest movies. The best thing I can say about Moonraker is that it has a top 10 Bond theme.
>Shirley Bassey does 3 Bond themes
>all 3 are fantastic
Why must she age
Spectre has one of the best opening action scenes of the franchise.
he's just too pretty.
It's like watching a Bourne movie with even shittier editing. No redeeming qualities whatsoever.
I liked Casino Royale and Skyfall. Spectre was shit except for the girl who was very cute and I can barely remember Quantum of Solace. I've never seen any other Bond Film. Will somebody spoon feed me and tell me what I should watch?
Pic unrelated
story is highly topical
I'd go with Hunnam. He certainly looks the part and is versatile as fuck.
I can just picture the face of someone who says casino royale isn't the best movie, AND, says it is pleb tier.
All the other movies are so trash, with acting, plot, and the bond that never suffers, acts like superman or something like that.
OLD GOOD NEW BAD
>Will somebody spoon feed me and tell me what I should watch?
Connery, Dalton, and Brosnan (except Die Another Day).
but is he fresh? I get a daniel craig vibe off himm but it's a bit hard to say.
Mission Impossible deliberately toned him down with a moustache and that made him look more unique.
sounds like something a huge nerd would say
>I think Moore was a good Bond but he definitely had the silliest movies
The silliness was why I was never a fan of Moore's Bond. I hope they never take the franchise back in that direction. I absolutely love Craig's Bond.
you're right but would people be behind him being bond with all the baggage? does BvS, man from u.n.c.l.e., and mission impossible drag him down or help him?
From Russia with Love
Goldfinger
Man with the Golden Gun
License to Kill
Goldeneye
World is not Enough
I can officially say Bond girls peaked with Solitaire if we're talking strictly looks
>I absolutely love Craig's Bond.
Absolutely. Dalton is the proto-Craig.
fuck off spectre sucked dick
>I can officially say Bond girls peaked with Solitaire if we're talking strictly looks
Xenia Onatopp, Vesper Lynd, and Agent Fields are damn good, tho.
(You)
>Mission Impossible deliberately toned him down with a moustache and that made him look more unique.
Yep. Cavill does fit Bond very well. He reminds me of Brosnan. Don't let the good looks dissuade you.
>Bond girls peaked with Solitaire
Another Superman agreed with you.
So was Pierce
pam bouvier, elektra king
>Agent Fields
she deserved better
I actually don't feel that pierce is as conventionally pretty as henry, and on that note I thought goldeneye shouldn't have even cast pierce.
He looks like Sam Worthington here.
>So was Pierce
See. If it was the early 90's I would have vouched for Brosnan the same way I do for Cavill now.
>goldeneye shouldn't have even cast pierce
It was going to be Dalton's third film before he bowed out due to MGM's legal troubles. Sean Bean was almost Bond as well.
Ah. Based Pam.
That she did.
>It was going to be Dalton's third film before he bowed out due to MGM's legal troubles.
I thought that it was going to be Property of a Lady.
>I would have loved to see Dalton do it, though.
I appreciate the continuity and Dalton-esque grittiness of Craig. I do not like how long each movie takes to make and how damn grim Craig is as Bond.
Thank you I'm downloading License to Kill and Goldeneye now and if I like those I'll watch the rest.
Prepare to watch way more Bond because youre downloading two of the most kino
>man with the golden gun
If you wanted to recommend a moore film A Spy Who Loves Me is by far the most kino
you're lucky to be going in fresh with those movies. however I would add goldfinger into that mix.
>Jason Isaacs
Fuck. I almost forgot we had some good contenders for Bond in the 90's.
yeah isaacs is my pick for the brosnan era.
>however I would add goldfinger into that mix.
No, Mister user. I expect you to die!
It was going to he but then they wrote Goldeneye in 1995 where in dat in development hell until Brosnan was hired.
alright i'll download that one too why not
Quantum of Jump Cuts has a weak story and weaker action. It's a poor entry to the series and was an underwhelming follow up to Kino Royale. Skyfall was better in every respect.
You Know My Name is great, agreed.
you're forgetting one thing, if I fail to report, 008 replaces me.
skyfall is my favorite bond flick ever. previous favorite was goldeneye.
>Skyfall over Casino Royale
God imagine how much of a shit taste having cringe retard you have to be to think this.
>ethically British
So quick to give advice and slow to take it?
who the fuck could think skyfall was better than casino royale.
Fuck I hope so. I could listen to him read the dictionary
Man has climbed Mount Everest. Gone to the bottom of the ocean. He has fired rockets at the Moon. Split the atom. Achieved miracles in every field of human endeavour... except shitposting!
>you're forgetting one thing, if I fail to report, 008 replaces me.
I trust he will be more successful.
Pleb
Patrician
not only is You Know My Name the best craig era theme song, in my mind its in the top 5 for the whole series.
I thought Casino Royale was pretty good most of the way through, but that ending is weak as fuck. It just meanders and then has a big fight with a bunch of people we don't care about
It's much more polished. Mostly better acting and production values with nothing as awkward as the post torture scenes between Eva and Craig. It's grown on me and Casino Royale has aged a bit. It's still better, though.
i can accept this.
>not only is You Know My Name the best craig era theme song, in my mind its in the top 5 for the whole series.
I'd put it at #1. None of the other songs stick out as much as that one does.
We live in a timeline where Superman will be James Bond and Tom Hardy will be the best villain.
1. Thunderball
2. Live and Let die
3. You Know my Name
4. View to a kill
5. Living Daylights
BLACKED
Based thunderball chad
the thunderball song is fucking chad as hell.
1. You Know My Name
2. The Living Daylights
3. A View To A Kill
4. Licence to Kill
5. Thunderball
and it's the most melodically interesting of the connery era songs.
Cavill is the only one who will work here and you know it. Audiences will not accept anyone else.
this is totally understandable. youtube.com
The only bond film of his I like is QOS.
The entire movie is really. Largo is one of the few villains to say they are more chad than Bond himself.
The deep Tom Jones voice really helps. Most of the Bond songs sound likes its the bond girl singing about Bond meanwhile Thunderball is either Bond complimenting himself or Largo mocking him depending on how you interpret it.
youtube.com
heres my favorite scene from thunderball.
>TFW a Moore pic has a kino theme tune.
i know. holy fuck the song is a million times better than the movie. It's almost wasted
>i know. holy fuck the song is a million times better than the movie. It's almost wasted
That's the power of Duran Duran. They elevate anything they touch.
I love when the composers (especially John Barry) use orchestral versions of the themes during the movies.
john barry was the best at this, with his best work being living daylights in my opinion.
Spectre was terrible. I wasnt a fan of the departure from the series in Skyfall, but at least the tone suited the fucking plot. The worst parts of Skyfall were the goofy "master hacker" bits that made everything else unbelieveable.
Then you have Spectre which tries to keep the same serious tone with tons of ill-fitting bond callbacks that just dont fucking work.
>iron thumb henchman
>taking down a helicopter AND an entire secret base with a single bullet
>bullshit "it was all me, James!" asspull with no setup at all
>high-tech torture chair
This shit does not fucking work with the tone they tried. Its disjointed at best and fucking awful at worst.
For its the entirety of Angelo Pallazis nuclear bomb theft from when he tajes off to killing his crew to Largo personally diving down to cut his oxygen supply. Such a badass sequence and shows Largo does not hide behind his minions and gets his hands dirty unlike Dr. No, Rosa Klebb and Goldfinger.
too old
youtu.be
name a better bond fight scene
pro tip: you cant
The more I browse these threads, the more I realize many of the complaints are superficial at best.
Red Grant fight will always be the best bond fight
Bill Conti did a damn good job in FYEO
>skyfall is better than casino royale
NPC detected
I always wonder if the
>Craids Bond is bad
is a zoomer or boomer meme. I am 30+ myself and hardly ever consider pre-Craig Bonds to be serviceable, let alone good. Brosnans movies are merely enjoyable because he's an enjoyable actor. Everything else is a steaming pile of shit. Connery's movies also are fucking atrocious. This hipster mentality needs to stop. Craig literally managed to make the first nonshit film this flick franchise has ever produced.
the entire scene is ruined by bautistas farewell line
He's ugly desu. So you're wrong.
>QoS good
sean bean shouldve been bond. hes already a legend as richard sharpe, but he would bleed union jack if he was bond as well.
the real redpill is that all bond movies are shit
>Skyfall is even better
>Quantum is the only bad movie
HOLY PLEBOLA
Stop taking estrogen
The one Bronson 007 movie people can agree was good wasn't even written with him in mind
Fuck you and Craig. Dalton Forever.
>Casino Royale is great
>Skyfall is even better
lol, no. CR is pratically the best movie in the entire franchise.
>skyfall
>good
lmao
choose one
Im convinced the OP is a troll.
Anyone and I mean ANYONE who thinks Craig is a good Bond and/or his movies are "good" deserves to watch the first 3 Connery films and give his head a wobble
>5'7
Craig is around that.
>too old
No. Cavill is the right age.
He's too bulky to be Bond. However, he'd be perfect as Jaws if they ever did that again.
>He's too bulky to be Bond. However, he'd be perfect as Jaws
>Posts pic of 2013 MOS Cavill.
Mate. Cavill is fine as Bond.
Spectre is a pretentious mess and it's nothing like classic Bond.
>IT WAS MEEEEEEE
>implying that opening sequence wasn't GOAT
The Bond series died with Die Another Day, the last and by far greatest Bond movie.
The Craig Bonds are boring unrewatchable shit
>Die Another Day
>the last and by far greatest Bond movie
reminder that this shilling will keep going until Craig is finally replaced, and then the same shills will praise whoever is next even harder than they've been praising Craig for years now.
only the first half of CR is decent, the rest of Craig's entire output as Bond was shit. die another day is a better bond movie than every single Craig shakey cam Jason Bourne tribute flick. Terrible action, terrible writing, flat acting.
>space laser
>people genetically altering their race
>entire hotel made out of ice
>actually considers all these things to be better than plots than Craig films
jesus christ
Royale was the only one that was based. Skyfall was Guardians of the Galaxy 2 tier, and Quantum of Solace was a "JUST TURN YOUR BRAIN OFF, BRO" film. Never saw Spectre, but it looked like the author of Oliver Paine.
The only Bond film worse than Die Another Day is Moonraker and at least Moonraker was self aware of how goofy it seemed.
Spectre was kind of a blend of classic Bond films mixed in with some Casino Royale. It was definitely better than Skyfall imo, Skyfall is way too overrated.
it had cool action scenes and intriguing characters, including Bond himself. that's enough to make it better than any Craig flick right there.
for the record, I'm not the guy who called it "great", I think it's mediocre. but thanks to the Craig era of non-Bond movies it's now far from the worst.
DAD is clearly self-aware as well, you just choose to ignore it. it's knowingly extremely over the top.
This. In Royale, Bond is an actual fucking badass, killing people, having sex, being cold hearted and merciless and shit.
The only good scenes in Skyfall were when he stayed to get fucked up in some beach in the Caribbean, and then goes back to MI6 for re-training (while failing the tests). Also, that scene where we think he's lost his edge with the flintlock pistol, but then it turns out he's still kind of a badass.
Only three scenes worth watching. Everything else was shit. In Quantum of Solace, though, there's a scene at the end when the bad guy gropes a waitress and you get a small upskirt, and that scene is pretty hot, but other than that, the whole movie is a snooze cruise.
you forgot
>hovercraft chase in minefield
>invisible car
>flying helicopter out of burning plane
However ludicrous it may be, Die Another Day is still infinitely better than any of the grindingly tedious and over-serious Daniel Craig Bond movies
Casino Royale is one of the best bond films
Quantum of Solace is pretty bad
Skyfall is decent
Spectre is fucking awful
spectre is terrible the story makes little sense and trying lump everything together to make it seem like it was all Blofield from the beginning was just stupid
Even when I saw DAD as a kid I thought "man this is fucking stupid". They went from cool post-cold war shit like Goldeneye to the shitfest that was DAD.
It will be Tom Hiddleston, if you watched him in the nightmanager you will realise why.
Goddamn I hope so.
Die Another Day is rated as the worst Bond film by fans and critics. Even Moonraker somehow has better ratings on IMDB, Rotten Tomatoes and even Metacritic than Die Another Day.
He might be okay, but he's not much of a tough guy. Really like him in some roles though, e.g. loki, High Rise, he was badly miscast in King Kong though.
Cillian or Tom Hardy would be good though
Craig's just under 6foot??? He's 180cm or about.
I get the feeling Tom Hardy won't go for it. Didn't he get all freaked out and worried about his career after Bane? I'm not sure he'd go for a big franchise again.
watch it again, it's better now than when it came out, i too hated it upon release but rewatched it recently and its quite good and very over the top.
I did and it's harder to watch now than it was back then. It had a pretty interesting plot, the villain was great and Brosnan did great but the terrible writing about some dumbass laserbeam and that ice palace ending just ruin it.
First half of the film is actually really good but it really falls apart for the second half, to the point that I don't even finish it anymore.
the 2nd half is a mess true, and halle berry sucks, and t b h i was colossally high as fuck when watching it
I thought the same thing. my favorite Brosnan Bond is TND. I think it's underrated, especially when he drives a car with - essentially - a Nintendo DS.
maybe what happened with DAD was that they had run out of semi-realistic gadget ideas so the only way "up" was with super-futuristic shit like a full on invisible car and extensive, safe gene editing on a living person.
more like 5'9. stop falling for hollywood height frauds.
>halle berry
Probably the worst casting in any Bond film for sure.
TND is highly underrated. The whole thing of the media making the news for drama and profit was excellent and the car was great, despite people calling it weird that Bond would have a German limo as his car. What better car for a banker than a big German luxury car?
The invisible Aston in DAD was good, I can't deny that. I just can't get behind the gene therapy and the frozen palace, it was just too silly.
>I just can't get behind the gene therapy
It was a metaphor for the enemy assuming the guise of his victims to blend in so he can destroy them
I can get behind gene editing. it's an obvious exaggeration but I think you'll be surprised within your lifetime. it just won't be done on living people, it'll be done in the womb so the baby comes out the way its parents desire. first they'll fix hereditary diseases and everyone will be on board with that except for fundamentalist religious groups. then pandora's box is open and it's only a matter of time before people edit boys to reach 6 feet, girls to have blonde hair etc.
the ice hotel is the only part that genuinely does not make sense. the beds the guests sleep in could never be heated enough to be comfortable without melting the ice around them.
The beds were also ice slabs weren't they? How the fuck did that work.
They have meme ice hotels in real life though, Iceland or one of those Scandi countries
QoS is better than Spectre and maybe Skyfall. The plot of Skyfall is so fucking dumb.
NOT iceland
>The Ice Palace in the film was inspired by the real-life Ice Hotel in Jukkasjärvi, Kiruna, Sweden. Producer Barbara Broccoli first saw a photo of it in a magazine while travelling on a plane, and thought it would make a good set piece for a Bond movie. The location is two hundred kilometers (one hundred twenty-four miles) north of the Arctic Circle in Sweden. Ice hotels, or similar structures like an Ice Palace, Ice Museum, Snow Castle, or Ice Castle have existed in Norway, Finland, Canada, Romania, and Russia, but such a building has never existed in Iceland, where some of the ice palace footage was shot.
God tier: Casino Royal
Shit tier: all other Craig's Bond movies and all other Bond movies
I like Quantum of Solace. It's got the most interesting plot.
For some odd reason, my kino friends consider Craig Bond as good
They never watch action flicks, because they are snob assholes, but I don't know why these movies are in their radar for being "good"
forgetting 'for your eyes only'?
faggots on tv think the old quirky shit is better, but honestly the new ones aren't much different.
Casino Royale - 5/5
Skyfall - 4/5
Spectre - 3/5
QoS - 1/5
Looks like the next one is going to be a disappointing 2/5 to complete the set.
>last night Pierce force-fed calories to your sister
The only decent comment itt
Me personally, I really fucking like Craig as Bond. Mah man's gritty. Also I really fucking dislike Pierce Brosnan and his face.
I like Craig. He's a manly man's man no wonder most men like him hes so manly thats why
Casino Royale is just too fucking based and so different compared to any other bond movie.
>The entire poker tournament
>The stare down during raise
>The arrogance of bond and gambler’s high
Also vesper’s sub story ended up making for a great twist, which leads into what I want to talk about Goldeneye.
006 was absolute kino, having a villain that is so close to Bond was great. I wished the Pierce films built upon that story before Goldeneye.
Imagine seeing movies that explored 007’s and 006’s journey together without any hint of betrayal leading up to Goldeneye.
It’d also be more interesting than just seeing bond be a one man army all the time.