Why didn't they use silencers?

>silencers

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>suppressors

Yeah, this didn't make any sense to me, well trained operators undertake an ops like that where stealth is a key factor and they use rifles or sidearms without any silencers? Also, at the very beginning during the raid at the drug house Oscar Isaac fires a grenade into the second floor window followed by a huge ass explosion - they didn't even care to explain if the grenade launcher round ignited something inside the house. I tried to suspend my disbelief until one of the guys knee capped one of the druglords men during the raid.

they suppress the sound, they don't remove (silence) it

Hard to maintain any sort of training when staring at a literal billion dollars man

Except they make a bonfire with money later that night. Movie has no consistency.

They were out of the game for awhile so it was fine by me. Ben Affleck was broke as fuck, his life was shit. The only thing he cared about was his family. It made sense that being able to secure their future became higher priority than the mission.

Why didn't they just hire two helicopters and split the cash load between the two helicopters

I give this movie a 4/10, I don't even know why it was made. Anyone who says it was enjoyable, explain yourselves.

They only have one pilot.

I enjoyed the bantz between Hedlund and Hunnam

If they kept Pedro as lead pilot and put Ben Affleck as pilot of the second copter as he was co-pilot in the first and followed the same route it would have been easy mode.

They also suppress the muzzle flash.

>Jackie Boy gets shot in the abdomen with an entry and exit wound bleeding everywhere
>oh shit now they'll have to drag him out, compromising their fighting power
>nope, he fights just as well as the rest
>helicopter crashes and they start walking
>oh NOW his wound is going to become worse, maybe it'll become infected and he'll become delirious and they'll have to debate leaving or carrying him
>nope, he doesn't even walk any slower than the rest while carrying a body or bags of cash
It's like his wound was completely healed with a medpack like in games.

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I think he was very lucky. The bullet went straight through without hurting any organs. It was mostly just a flesh wound.

I enjoy and am grateful for any and all operator kino.

Even a flesh wound would have fucked him up if he was trekking through fucking mountains dragging bags for five days with nothing done to it but slapping an israeli bandage on there. At the very least the bullet would have messed with the muscles in the area, making him considerably worse off while doing things like carrying, climbing or walking over rough terrain.

You operatorfags are the worst. Arguing over the tiniest minutia in such a terrible movie.

>first hour is solid operator heist kino
>second is wandering through South America getting into scuffles and dropping money everywhere
It had some great scenes but such a shitty structure. Loads of it felt like the seventh Harry Potter movie where they're just camping and arguing for half the film.

Tears of the Sun is a better spec ops movie.

Because a suppressor is only making sure the guys beyond a 200m radius don't hear the shot, anyone inside that is going to hear it. Besides, the bolt cycling the next round or the slide moving back and forth alone is loud enough to alert anyone on the same floor.

Why didn't they carry more money out to the coast? They could have carried a bag or two each instead of just stuffing whatever they could into their ruck bag

Their gear alone isn't that light either and they had to carry Bin Aflekhi.

Would it have changed anything? They all walked away with nothing.

Didn't you see the ending? One of the guys wrote down the coordinates of the chasm where they had to dump most of the money, implying they will go back and get it later.

I liked the character introductions and the first hour of the movie. Once the actual action started it all went to shit very quickly.

Should have just made a movie about all-out guerilla warfare, making your 'elite' operators suddenly start behaving irrationally just to add tension and drama to the story is bad writing.

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Hunnam's character got coordinates of those buried bags. So it's safe to guess they will return fo the money.

shut the fuck up you autist

Are you talking about them taking more money to the coast, or the money they buried. I was saying taking more to the coast wouldn't matter. If they left it, which they did, they can go back and get it (possibly, no guarantee).

who is this?
>tfw no qt to larp with

no idea, I've had these two pictures on my drive for ages

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they also get extremely hot and effect weapon performance and accuracy if the gun is being fired a lot

t. watched some hickok45 vids

>a wounded soldier in an operator flick
>minutia

Suppressors aren't made for sustained fire. Maybe 50-90 rounds without a long cool down period. But they don't affect projectile speed or accuracy at all, that's bullshit.

>Carbines under sustained fully automatic fire, or rapid fire, can be more problematic. Significant heat transfer may show a decrease in accuracy while hot. Shooting a suppressor until it is red- or white-hot is going to definitely cause issues.
gundigest.com/gear-ammo/suppressor-effects

they probably wernt shooting enough in that movie to get them red hot, but at least an argument could be made for them not using them for reasons like that.

of course they were just using supplies from the shit hole country out of that container so they probably didn't even have any if they wanted some.

They where carrying Affleck and somehow dragging 100 bags with them up until that point but they couldn't take 1 bag each with them to the boat?

they even had 1 free hand each when they were walking down the hill. then they are just ploding around a fucking path and dont notice a parked car until they are 5m away from it where that stupid kid was. the last quarter of the movie was super weak and felt like the how i would wrap up short stories i wrote in junior high when i was reaching the word count.

>“When I first read the script it was a secondary character [who got killed], I can’t even remember which one of the other guys it was. It was someone else… It was actually in meeting with Ben for the first time, he suggested it. He said would you ever be willing to do that? I had actually moved it to a different character than the one that I originally read [in Mark Boal’s draft of the script]. I won’t get into who, but it was to another character and it was very secondary. Ben said, ‘Would you ever be willing to, if I got the studio to agree to it, to allow that to be me?’”

does Ben just want to die?

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>itt retards don't get the point this movie is trying to make about greed.
Same with the brother sisters
Your looking at it too literally
>that scene at the end where Oscar issac gets the coordinates for the cash they stashed in the glacier crevasse
Great movie it's easily one of shitflixes best right up there with maniac and beasts of no nation in terms of flying above morons heads who can't appreciate more philosophical less obvious storytelling

Then clearly only killed one guy off to add drama to a crappy shooter movie. Might as well make the death as impactful as possible

>Your

Yes he has seen and knows too much.
Time for fatflec to rest

I literally made this face to that terrible post.
Thanks for confirming my hypothesis
All u morons picking on minutia are missing out on the themes of brotherhood/greed and temptation

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what is it saying about greed?

this movie was stupid. the characters started dropping double digit iq points the moment they entered the bank.

helicopter no bueno in the ANDES! TOO HIGH!

this guy with the bullet wound to the stomach bleeding out over the past 5 days? nah he's cool.

why didn't they just fly inside jack over the mountains?

Look up the original patent you fuckwit.

Both terms are acceptable for describing a suppressor

>oscar isaac now goes to australia with his beautiful latina girlfriend who is now a millionaire, he also has the coordinates for 100 million
>the other three guys go back to being broke dumbasses

oscar really cucked those guys

no one missing out on those things, mate. it's just the movie has a lot of stupid little things happening that take us out of the experience and are annoying. not a bad movie by any means, but could've been better easily.

agreed, they wasted the potential of the movie

>spiritual successor

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They should have used the eagles

I bet you thought apocalypse now was just another war movie.
Holy fuck this boards actual understanding of surface level philosophical metaphysical themes in movies is dogshit I've seen deeper conversations on literally everywhere else except for here
Benfleck basically got gold madness and dragged the entire op down.
It was fucked from the moment the action started on purpose here I'll spell it out for you
>he wasted time pulling out too much money making them late
>first guard convoy got back and delayed them even further
>kid scenes their faces so he will track them down eventually
>helicopter crash was them trying to hold onto their greed further making the helicopter too heavy which is why it crashes
>revenge theme is further reinforced by the twonk from the murdered village people killing Benfleck in the mountains
>again the greed has clouded the rest of their judgement until they finally let go and just put enough to fit in backpacks after ceremonily burning chucking the money
Basically it didn't matter anymore the journey taught them what mattered in life (family and friends as well as your own ability to live with your actions)
I honestly don't mind.
Overall I think the movie handled itself fine apart from the end action scene where they out of the blue decide to not kill kids because of what happened with the villagers but that was clumsily setup by them being moralistic dads not wanting to do that at the start.
I wouldn't say the little bits like that where bad or stupid just clunky in terms of how it went about it.
Needed more polish

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>Significant heat transfer may show a decrease in accuracy while hot. Shooting a suppressor until it is red- or white-hot is going to definitely cause issues.

That's like shooting 5 belts with the same barrel. Of course it's going to fuck your shit up. Nobody does that. But the average soldier, spec ops or not, isn't even carrying enough ammo to turn a suppressor red hot. This SAW takes about 150 rounds, most soldiers carry 3-4 spare 30 rounders. youtube.com/watch?v=BczhT1ByrXA

Who cares the hot supreessor looked dope as fuck
>expected a throwback to the expendables type action movies
>get that plus some excellent thought kino
It's a win win.
Had this movies script had more time in the oven it would have been a 10/10 but it's still a 7-9/10

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mate these movies, apocalypse now as well have all the philosophical depth of a puddle. That is why no one is talking about how "deep" and how great the "philosophical metaphysical themes" are.
>greed is bad
no one fucking missed that you retard. The fact you think you're the only one who "gets it" speaks volumes.

The fact that your projecting you think I care if I (get it) enough to post on here about how smart you think I think I am shows how dumb you really are.
Your all focusing on the weakest parts of this movie for yous because it's cool to hate on Netflix here even when they occasionally make something good like this bandersnatch and love hate + robots.
You can (and I do) literally pick holes in anything and while it's fun for a while sometimes I just want to (re) watch something without shitting on the same stuff over and over.
Take a step back look at the state of this board and think before you post next time

or maybe people can talk about whatever the fuck they want and if you don't like what they are saying you can ignore them or start a new conversation.

christ just shut up
>dude you guys are so dumb lmao

predator, commando, first blood are infinitely better than this. this was a weird and confused mess, was it about supporting the troops? undermining the special forces because they are psychos? wtf was the point of all the wasted scenes with the daughter, with the informant girl, all the beer drinking scenes.

stallone captured shellshock BY ACTING not by giant amount of useless scenes. you could cut by 60 minutes and lose absolutely nothing.

the gutshot guy was supposed to cover ben affleck right? so he let him die, because he snapped and he knew he wouldnt be able to live with himself for killing the villagers? what was the point of any of it.

it's obvious real military guys would've dumped half the money on the runway (hidden in a hangar or something), flown their helicopter safely to the boat, refueled it and flown back to get the rest of the money with a skeleton crew - pilot + oscar.

I liked the movie because it was operator kino that you don't get that often, made me want to play Rainbow Six Siege, too bad I gotta download a 30+ gigs update, what the fuck is that shit? I also gotta buy a new mouse and I'm broke

Why didn't they fly twice over the mountains?
What did they eat while trekking over the Andes?
Why did they think simply saying "she'll make it" would magically make a helicopter be able to carry more than its maximum load?
Why were there only 3 guards for a quarter of a billion dollars? Especially seeing as it wasn't only that one Narcos money.
Could they have made the character introductions/motivations more generic?

5/10 action movie.

So yeah Tldr I like this movie alot I dont care what you all spesifically think fuck your yous don't give them to me shove em up your arse.
Either you missed points of this movie entirely or just wunna shit on it.
Your entitled to your opinions but I am sure as shit entitled to shit on your opinions
And yet you flock of cackling cunts always drift to the same stale shit
It's like watching a movie critics masturbating over how (smart) they think they are with Sisyphus and oroborus overtones much like this movie.
I think the whole concept was done much better in other media (spec ops the line) as the illusion of choice has been portrayed over and over again
No u ironically
Why should I have to go along with your fucking bandwagons and group think
Fuck you are your yous
Again and I've said this before in other threads that without stuff happening in this movie the way that it did we would not have got the story that was told.
Sure it could have been done better but it is what it is
Real life is murky and grey morally as all fuck.
I'm not gonna sit here and act like I'm some fucking arbiter on what's good and evil or why movies can't have mixed themes.
What I took from it is that it's how each of them handled themselves under pressure and when most of them snapped that's when we got to see who they truely where at their core.
It was done clunky sure but the actual meat of the movie is great.
Just be thankful you didn't download the 60gb hd update ffs

have sex

>Your all focusing on the weakest parts of this movie for yous
It's the weakest link that breaks the chain.

And? Can you elaborate without shitting on the same shit or do you only have the mental capacity to follow other anons shitposts
T. Homeschooled
Won't fix my obvious mental issues
Or my country falling apart.
I'd rather have kids off the grid captain fantastic style like my folks did

>arse
>spesifically
>gives every sentence its own line
How's the norf these days?

are you okay?

>T.
Lurk more before posting, redditard newfag.

netflix clearly and objectively has a problem making original content. their movies are great ideas with terrible execution, typically due to poor editing and a weak finish.

outlaw king ends with them running and hugging on a beach. the horse walks into them and tries to hug them also, this was left in the movie. there's a hard cut to another angle without the horse. the sun sets to "they lived happily ever after" text.

this is BAD.

>obvious mental issues
no shit

>Your all focusing on the weakest parts of this movie for yous
That's called discussing/criticizing a movie.

It's not an entirely bad movie, it's just that there are no scenes that pull it above mediocrity.
Ben Afflecks death has no impact, as his (and all the others) characters are incredibly generic, and the interaction between the characters was never anything more than surface level.

There could have been several ways to make the movie more interesting, and give the actors a proper script to work with.
As some have suggested, have them leave half the money and have most of the movie be about a race to get it back before the Narcos get them.
Instead of a generic character introduction (muh daughter, muh alimoney), have it be about their relationship with money specifically, that way you can build the plot up to a point where it becomes interesting seeing how far they'll go for the money.

It could have been great. Den of Thieves is kind of the same thing (except they rob a bank and not a drug dealer), and it tries to make things interesting and as original as you can, while selling a simple action movie.

Mid North Coast is a shit meth belt as you'd expect
Just my typical post drinking downer self wanker rants.
Least I'm a white male lmao
Have kids not furbabies mate
Where the fuck is the full edit of that movie? I want that fucking cut battle

How were they going to get all those bags of money into that tiny skiff?

Because I imagined the other 4 donkeys all heading back and jumping off the same cliff the first one fell off of. I had a sensible chuckle at the thought, made watching the film more than worth it.

They were years ago, and thats why Affleck gives them a speech that theyre going rogue and theyre criminals now before going in

So them being criminals means they automatically throw all standards out of the window and become an undisciplined mob?

a good question. For another time. They didn't expect to find that much money mate so they obviously didn't plan on it. Hell the chopper couldn't take that much

They didn't plan for anything much.
No backup plans worth shit tbqh.

And yet here we are
Yeah I can't defend the shonky writing but then again what was there was decent enough as you said
Just like the movie their plan was retarded.
In multiple trips? They didn't plan for a army of pissed off child soldiers
This movie is a good example of not writing yourself into a corner having to make everything constantly getting more and more
Also the wet fart anti climatic sequel bait could have been handled better and easily written in a way it could have been done in a single movie as user already said
>first half them executing plan
>2nd half it going fubar then them getting the money back that they had to dump
This.
It's also established they are trained ops not fucking hardened criminals
Clearly fish out of water elements that most posters still miss because they have their sights set on the bad parts of the movie.
It did alot of cloche dumb shit but also did even more things right.
Had this movie come out 10-20+ years ago when standards for these sorts of flicks where lower I reckon it would have got a better reception.
Also remember idiots on both sides will shit on this for obvious reasons in today's /pol/itical leftyloonlyland

Imagine if Band of Brothers had a scene where Winters gets gutshot and everyone huddles around him in fear, but then they just slap a bandage on it and he continues trekking through Germany with the boys acting like he just has a stomach cramp, at most.

This low IQ motherfucker would be crying about how we're complaining about minutia and not getting the deep story about brotherhood and nazis being bad.

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exactly, it's some lazy ass writing that some supposed strategic genius can be so sloppy, even before his reasoning and logic is clouded by the (2deep4me, according to the guy that just had a meltdown in this thread) theme of 'greed makes good men bad and stupid'.

amen

For anyone who wanted this kind of operator kino but a script that was at least a tad above mediocre (even downright kino in some places imho), check out Den of Thieves

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Oh yeah because band of brothers is definitely not Jewish propaganda
>Y-yes good white
goy did for Israel protect us from evil nazis fight our wars for us
B-but nazis where the bad guys!
>he thinks this light banter back and forth was a meltdown
This is why I have no friends my age irl anymore you lot just shut down and do the typical gen xyz thing and ghost move on

huh? banter? you just call everyone a retard and act like people agreeing on some dumb shit a movie does means they are parroting and circle jerking in some conspiracy to hate on netflix. that's not banter.

>Den of Thieves
140 minutes?
yikes

based autist who has no friends or social skills and so thinks he's bantering when he's really whining.

yeah maybe you don't have friends because you unjustly think very highly of your own intellect to an insufferable and maddening degree.

Silencers don't work the way they do in movies.
Greed was the whole catalyst for their eventual downfall.

if they did two trips it would still be greedy as fuck and could still lead to their downfall but it wouldn't be anywhere near as retarded.

I stopped asking for your yous yet you won't stop
At least I formed my own opinions as whatever as they may be from your perspective mate
As a edgy eternal pessimistic asshole who larps as a disinterested autist I'm not disagreeing with any of you completely.
All your points are valid to some degree but are misguided imho
Nah it's waay simpler then that they all moved and got kids morage job and became normal useful idiots who couldn't even hold a basic conversation/whatever the fuck this is without their eyes glazing and looking at their phones.
At least it wasn't as bad as that scene from John wick 2