>Blu-Ray is the best format to watch film
Blu-Ray is the best format to watch film
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Its 4k shits on the blu ray and you.
Yes?
One of only many reasons the theatrical cut is superior.
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>less content is better
I want Plebbit to leave.
>more content is always better, regardless of quality of appropriateness
based retard
>more plot points is automatically better
This is the quintessential mental midget (non) thinking.
Go back to 9gag
>retard OP spamming bad color grading examples as faults of bluray
are you all 12
>I am I sophisticated enough by being a contrarian? I guess I should shill a bit for film grain too.
Disney remasters always deliver.
So you cherry picked a master that was infamous and redone later and bad color grades to show Bluray is bad?
/golfclap
How the fuck does that account to being a contrarian?
Do you think any book would be better if it was 5 thousand pages long? Any film would be better if it's 320 hours long? A song being one day long?
Plot point mental midget that never artistically expressed himself in his life, fact. Type of person who enjoys TV shows more just to consume even more weightless plot points
SOUL vs SOULLESS
I mean what the fuck is this
Which is one better? Help me out, Yea Forums, I don't want to be a pleb!
>when you can't tell the difference
Eyelet master race reporting in
left you retard, deserts aren't blue
You guys realize that the early DVD era was famous for its red/purple tint push right? (The original first season of TNG, Mad Max, etc.)
A lot of the examples posted so far in this thread are remasters that went back to the negative and got a proper color grade.
I never got this. Jackson admitted to it being intentional but he didn't touch the other 2 movies.
Can aussies confirm which one is more accurate?
>deserts look like piss
Okay, I will trust an expert like you.
This has nothing to do with BR tho. They just went too far and removed the grain. Also the image is cherry-picked. Even that version looks way better than the DVD. By now there is a new transfer to BR and it's stellar.
He touched 2 & 3 in production already and wanted 1 to be in tone with the later movies.
I'm not sure which one to go for here.
The top is the original Bluray master where the Watchowisky siblings went back and changed the color timings to match the real world and matrix of the sequels.
The bottom is the new 4k color timing that uses the original color timings from 1999.
This autist again
Why is Cameron so obsessed with the colour blue?
Fellowship came out right at the time digital color grades took off. Jackson got very little time to tinker with it and it shows when you see TTT and ROTK.
The extended changes were him going back and giving it a full pass like the other 2. (Note: he very intentionally left the theatrical as is because he didn't want to pull a Lucas and make the originals as presented in theaters unavailable.)
Can confirm.
I was at Q&A with him and he flat out said he didn't like the original Council of Elrond scene turning out almost neon. The Extended color timing was partly done to correct this.
Thats a shit comparison. The one is zoomed in gtfo here newfag
Leaked image from Avatar 2
Yes HD is soulless trash
soulfull vs soulless
It is for James Bond at least, they did a fantastic job on all of them especially the older films.
The Blu-Ray transfers of Disney's Xerox-era movies are absolute sin. They tried to smudge out the pencil lines to make them look like their other movies and it looks like absolute ass. The xerox era Disney movies are beautiful in their own way, and we get to see the original artwork rather than the inker's best approximation of it. Disney's higher ups despise the look of pencil marks though and as a result they hate that era of their back catalog.
Left is way too red, look at his clothes and the car. Right is more neutral
Cameron is such a fucking hack. I hope disney buttfucks him good with his Avatar shitquels now that they own FOX and all the rights to it.
Ever heard the expression "less is more"?
Or "perfection is achieved not when there is nothing left to add, but when there is nothing left to take away"
Is that what your girlfriend tell you to stop you from crying every night? Queer.
Right one looks way sharper
Bottom is clearly better
I like the 4k one
lol, get your eyes checked
No, top. Bottom much too green.
That's why they call it BLUray
This is by far the worst blu ray release ever made. It had some alright color correction; but they forced 4:3 footage men risked their lives to film into being 16:9
It's fucking awful. Nothing you post will be worse than what they did to this
It's called Blue-Ray because they add an ugly blue filter
I f*ckin love content!
Can see much more of the effects work though.
First blu ray is better here. That yellow shit in Sergio Leone movies is a mistake.
Choose your character
This is factually incorrect. The name comes from the way the technology works -- the discs are read by a 405nm "blue" laser, whereas normal DVDs employ a 650nm "red" laser.
Left suits the tone of the movie, far more so.
2013 looks like the best HD version
Its called Bluray.
>mfw browsing this thread with f.lux on
>Using Flux when Windows 10 has it built in already
Turn around and she'll WHAT?
but it's crops out the top and the bottom
Well, 4K BD is now unless you happen to have access to physical reels of film or some kind of theater harddriver that they use to project. Whether or not the producers fuck up the film by degraining and smoothing is irrelevant to the fact that 100GB or 50GB holds more data that 8.5GB.
Shaken not stirred, you munch
Seems like a good thread to ask, how are the Star Wars Despecialized Editions? Did he do a good job or is it all a reddit meme?
I hate grain. It's like a million little flaws a second and it's so distracting.
How you her legs.
It is noise in the end, but it was an inherent part of the process. The most you can hope for is some filtering to remove the harshest noise but try to leave the film looking natural.
this is why i won't watch lord of the rings or most movies. I have to watch in at least 1080p and all the remasters the directors have fucked with change the colors, I'm not watching "the right version" so It's pointless to see it.
The 4k project makes all this shit obsolete if you want the unaltered experience.
In my opinion the only way to watch the original trilogy, a new hope, objectively the best film of ot and the only classic and truly good film, got completely butchered in the special editions, not just in bad color correction, the whole pacing, sound mixing, music, even story is completely wrong
The only film George Lucas improved in special editions (although it also has some things that don't fit) is TXH1138
4K Star Wars would be nice. Too bad that I happen to enjoy a lot of what Lucas put back in, like more Biggs, more Oola, more Wampa, stuff like that. The best Star Wars for me would be a "choose your additions" where you go through all of the options to turn on or off for your optimal experience, I'd even want to include the dumb Tosche Station Luke.
>4K Star Wars would be nice.
Oh trust me, it is. I just watched it last week.
Would be cool, but I dont ever see that happening. I think the best fans could ever hope for would be an ultimate edition of each OT movie, with UHD transfers of each version. But even that is probably more work and legal mumbo-jumbo than Disney is willing to take on. At least right now.
it actually works here for the futuristic cyberpunk aesthetic
i don't like it, it's clean
I don't see why there would be any legal issues now that Disney will acquire the distribution rights to the original trilogy with the Fox buyout.
Are Blu Rays transferred by austists who dont understand what it is to be human?
You know which movie needs the proper blu ray treatment?
Any of them with little barefoot white girls.
FUCK
Why are they doing this? It's like people that hate the original films are put in charge of transfers
Almost like they do it on purpose so the shit they serve as movies now won't seem so bad
Science Fiction gets a pass for the aesthetic. It makes it more sciency and fictiony
This isn't real is it? 2013 doesn't even look like he's covered in honey anymore.
such as?
It's usually not the fault of the people doing the transfers, but retard directors and executives.
The newer blu-ray transfer of The Terminator is blue because of Cameron.
harriet the spy is the only one I know. or that foreign one I haven't seen, Magnum? Mustang?
JUST
That image was edited. Here's the original.
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You're probably right on both counts. It's almost certainly young people doing this who are obsessed with everything looking flat and digital. And Disney probably is following the George Lucas school of revisionism where they "accidentally" fuck something up and then they can say five years later "buy this new version, it doesn't have all the mistakes."
why are youtube quality things allowed as evidence?
how did Artoo get in there?
is there an explanation why they made it blue?
There isn't but Disney are dicks and they don't want the superior older films stealing thunder from their new ones.
There isn't. Only the UHD version is a proper remaster. The regular blu is still the DNR'd version.
See and
i added the DVD
Because it's the BLU-ray duh
that doesn't make sense. how did the roof on the right shrink?
>called Blue-Ray
>why is it blue?
You're clearly not the sharpest tool in a shed
How did Lucasfilm destroy the matte? With some CG garbage?
how does uploading a video to youtube change his filter to blue?
The state of that.
it's a different drawing
Both transfers look like shit. Top is too red and bottom is too blue.
Here's my take on it.
They can at least, eventually, re-release these in a proper format for collectors that keeps the aspect and grain. Like it makes no sense. The Fox and the Hound is perfectly grainy and left natural, then you have the stuff from the 60s and 70s being wiped and smeared.
COLOR CORRECTION WAS A MISTAKE
Somebody should meme a "no color correction was used in any stage of the production of this film" badge
The only use of color correction that may be allowed is pre and during editing but color correction after editing should be punishable by death
Same with despecle, smoothing, denoise, edge-detection and other stupid algorithms that are running movies
I would guess that the blu ray is still framed the way the director primarily intended, and the TV broadcast is just open matte. The film was likely shot in 1.85:1 with the intention of cropping it to the wider format for theatrical release. On one hand it's a better compromise since you're not missing any visual information in the TV broadcast, on the other hand it's still not really framed optimally (although it is often shot like this as a "middle ground" with both formats in mind).
This is why TV broadcasts of Pee Wee's Big Adventure have an apparent "goof" where you can see the chain being fed through the bottom of the bike in the shot where he pulls the impossibly long chain out of the compartment. That was cropped out in the original aspect ratio.
There are quite a few famous goofs from open-matte versions of movies. I know Fellowship of the Ring has telegraph poles in some wide shots because they only digitally removed them from the 2.35:1 frame. Also in A Fish Called Wanda there's a scene where John Cleese is supposed to be naked and you can see his pants in the unmatted version.
That, along with Lord of the Rings and many James Cameron films, was shot using Super 35. They shoot for the intended 2.35 aspect ratio, but there is more information on the negative. They simply matte the image to match their intended 2.35 ratio. When they do an HDTV broadcast, it actually opens up a bit more of the negative, but not image that was intended to be seen.
But if the film were shot using anamorphic lenses, then there would be information chopped off the sides of the image in the 16:9 broadcast.
City of Lost Children
also the movie from this pic
change the aspect ratio you mong
You mean the image was stretched to fit the screen?
Disney is going back and George Lucasing the backgrounds of classic animated classics now.
She looks like Princess Clara from Drawn Together.
nice
Who goes through the trouble to make these, but doesn't have the same frame as a comparison? I want to match everything. in mpc-hc press ctrl+g and you get the frame number, makes it easier
Who transferred this? Betty?
No it makes more sense for her to be pink, since that's what girls are. Arnie could be that color, but not Sarah
Color correction is a necessity for digitally shot movies because they're recorded in RAW.
They are also removing gags that Animators put into the films like hidden Mickeys. This hidden Mickey was removed from Ursula's contract when the 2013 blu ray was released.
This is awful, no wonder reddit hates these movies, they never watched the VHS
>Watchowisky siblings
Brothers
>yfw disney became the pirates they used to warn you about
youtube.com
This is the strangest thing to make a pasta out of.
They hate them because Reddit is a decent place that hates furries like this site used to.
They also removed the Catholic priests boner from the 2006 two disc Platinum edition dvd, and all blu ray editions of The Little Mermaid.
Indeed.
4k on the bottom?
The green tint was added to be more in line with the sequels that were in your face with it, I prefer the subtle look that relied more on the costume and set design to reflect the tone of the scene
Bluray is hit or miss. For new movies it's always better but for old movies it depends on how much effort they put in. For example, the Jaws bluray looks absolutely amazing and the Jurassic Park one looks barely better than the DVD.
There's also a problem with bluray making some movies look TOO good. Where you can see cheap effects and make up more clearly.
The 4K is superior. The vivid colors of the Matrix contrast with the dreary grays of the real world
>Watchowisky siblings
>There's also a problem with bluray making some movies look TOO good. Where you can see cheap effects and make up more clearly.
Not really the blu-ray's fault, since those errors were also visible in the cinemas when the films were first shown.
>more is always better
Retard.
whose "mistake"? if its sergios then it should be left in.
i like the blue filter in a lot of these, i think they look more "cinematic"
have i been brainwashed?
99% of the time, yes. Don't pull out your "what if some guy is annoying me by describing all his favorite movies", because of course less would be better then. Make a real argument instead of imaginary scenarios. I always want more megabytes, I always want more chicks on my dick, I always want more money in my wallet, I always want more entertainment in my media.
I think that was for the 3-D release
>autism windows
>I always want more megabytes
This is completely dependant on the actual content and whether or not it justifies the size. If you think that something is better just because it's bigger you're a fucking mongoloid.
>have i been brainwashed?
I think you know the answer already.
no, you have always been a retard
Isn't it sisters now since the other transitioned too?
timothy was the bets bond hands down
I can't decide if I liked this more than living daylights or not but they were both goat
This is why I'm glad Cowboy Bebop stayed in 4:3 for its beautiful blu ray transfer
It's genuinely fantastic
I even paid someone to make a blu ray copy of it
Cutting parts of the frame to make old movies in 4:3 be 16:9 should be a crime against humanity.
I'm sure he meant to say "sisters".
God I hate Post-Eisner Disney so much, I should really start up a collection of their old tapes and DVD's with all their fuck-ups.
>Aha! Yes, I shall win the argument by using a strawman and exaggeration, thus completely bypassing any points brought up by the other side and simultaneously making them appear moot
No it was cropped at the top and bottom.
>Jumanji tier monkeys jump out and attack THX1138 before disappearing
Bravo, George
Better than the daily twitter political outrage threads.
This is lies I got the 4k HDR and it looks all grey and washed out, it's a SCAM
people shitting on blu-ray are probably too poor to afford HD tvs in the first place, top kek
>he's never been to mexico
left is more accurate for the era and environment
So can anyone explain WHY this is being done?
You always write an Avisynth or Vapoursynth script for that:
>import IVTC'd DVD and Blu-ray videos
>trim the number of frames until they match each other
>interleave or stack them
and you can convert it to video if you want to
>only a new hope is the best
>and not empire
u wot m8
Always thought that was disgust the bald one had when taking pics with lana. Guess it's obvious it was envy.
Why was the american version color timed to be cartoonishly desert-ish in the first place?
I think as this explains its being done by computer programs with bad settings and nobody checks
Probably just like the orange/teal saturation there is one overworked company with all the jobs
you're using the term "cinematic" so you tell us
>just realized one of the ADAs on Law & Order was a fucking Bond girl
this just blew my fucking mind
Blu Ray is still the best way to watch films, despite the autists cherry-picking the few films with shit jobs out of thousands of great restorations.
4k is promising but we are not going to see the amount of titles that Blu got (same as Blu hasn't equaled the amount of DVD titles)
Not sure which version this is but the Network distributed region 2 Blu-ray is in its original aspect ratio
what a couple of faggots
The top is Sergio, the middle is some jackass who mastered the bluray and tried to give it a "modern" look, sometimes this is done with the hope of it getting more sales.
i have a few 4k blu rays but i don't own a 4k player, is the change in quality that big? i guess that HDR is where the real appeal comes from, since a well done transfer, with a consistent bit rate and a properly calibrated display, can still give the same results that one can get on a theatre imagewise.
He's been obsessed with it since T1 I think. For example he specifically picked out door scenes to be shot in areas with a mercury vapor street lamps just because they had a blue hue.