So far literally EVERY person I know who's still defending MJ hasn't actually watched Leaving Neverland...

where can I watch this

But that's wrong. The guys in the docu are the people who lied FOR mj. Now they've come out and said that they actually were fucked.

netflix or pirate.

>willingly watching deliberately one sided propaganda

I am open to the idea that MJ was a pedo, as his behavior around children was extremely weird at best. But Im not going to watch something I know is biased and appeals to emotion. Humans arent rational, theres a reason propaganda works. Even if you think you are rational you will be influenced by biased propaganda docus.

No, it's actually really really boring, it's 4 fucking hours of fan fiction narration juxtaposed with out of context images of Jackson doing mundane shit and REALLY sappy emotive music in the background. Like lowest common denominator stuff.

And of course, if you are educated in the 3 Michael Jackson cases you'll be constantly spotting lies and it'll take you out of the movie. Like all the shit that was lifted from pedo Gutiérez book, or Wade's infinite versions and retractions of events.

>getting convinced by people crying
yikes, you have to look at things logically

that's because no one watched it

They filed a lawsuit for 1.5 billion before this documentary.
They owe the MJ Estate 75 thousand dollars.

I have watched it. My favourite part was when he was talking about how jealous he was of the kids who got to go in the washroom with him. Haha what a story Mark!

>humans aren't rational. There's a reason propaganda works
It works if you're not rational. Retard

.>It's purely a #MeToo era piece about giving a voice to the victims.
So in other words, emotional manipulation

Not what it was. Way to prove you haven't actually watched it.

defending MJ is a meme to get (You)s

Pretty much everyone on Yea Forums agrees he did it, save for a few genuine schizophrenics who think everything is "le joos"

People can tell that you've not watched it because there are recordings of MC saying "I love you" to Safechuck and tons of faxes sent by MJ. You even see Wade in pajamas in MJ's hotel room. Or pictures of MJ's in Wade and Safechuck's home.

James, go fucking pay what you owe to your sister, you little lying faggot.

>emotional manipulation

If that's what you call someone speaking up about being raped as a child after a lifetime of silence, then you're an edglord of the worst kind.

I was not convinced by this docu at all, I was already pretty much convinced because of the facts of this case. Sure, they don't hold up in court, but that doesn't 99/100 abuse cases anyway, especially not when the defendant has the country's best lawyers.

Anyway, in my mind there is just no way that he didn't abuse kids. I'm still a fan of the guy's music and I don't really care or get emotionally invested in this shit.

Oh, you mean the recordings and childish notes saying I love you that literally everyone that has ever so much as crossed Jackson's path also have and a shitload of famous people have been posting their creepy loving MJ notes on Twitter proving that's just what he did cause he was a weird fucking cunt?

That's why you don't watch one sided selective propaganda.

I watched both parts and I defend MJ. Just because Robson said some shit about him spreading his 10 year old ass cheeks while Micheal jerked off to it doesn’t make it true.

>b-but they were underoath
>he needed kids in his bed because he never had a childhood so he needed to sleep with them

MJ drones make me laugh

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>everyone who has ever crossed paths with Michael Jackson has voicemails of him calling like a loon begging to hangout and watch movies with the child of the household

>If that's what you call someone speaking up after a brutal hate crime then you're an edgelord of the worst kind
Ok bro

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Watched it nothing new all these shit was in the variously lawsuits the accusers have made MJ was a weird nonce but I don’t buy anything this documentary is selling

He literally took one of those little boys for 1 year and hang around them all day and night. Grooming both them and their family. Its a pattern that the documentary shows and you can see it happening to the other victims who accused MJ of diddling them. After that 1 year, he'd move on to the next child and so on.
Also, nobody does the shit MJ did to a child for such an extended period of time, he was on the phone with them for hours.

HE DIDN'T GET TO HAVE A CHILDHOOD JUST LET HIM HAVE SOME NOT UGLY WHITE BOYS IN HIS BED PLEEEEEASE

>"Oh no! They realize I'm just talking out my ass. Better change the subject to something totally unrelated. Fast!

That's really interesting you guys, but what does Captain MJ have to say about all this?

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I watched it, and I agree it looks like he had sex with those kids. I don't care. The accusers said at the opening of the documentary that Michael was the most loving caring person.

>be me
>Have a dad who whores his own kids for money and fame
>Self esteem problems and shy because I think I'm ugly
>grew up and became a living legend
>Still feel ugly inside
>I un-nigger myself
>Nose fall off lol
>Don't care about pussy because I never grew up mentally and I want to be a kid forever
>Make a fuckin Disney world in my home and find kids to give them the happiness I never had
>The media think I'm fucking them
>Doc, give me the an hero pill plz
>Dies with a broken heart and a tainted legacy

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Funny thing is, if those kids in this documentary had said these things in the court (instead of lying and vouching for MJ) then MJ probably would be convicted. Imagine that.

They found porn in his home

>I'm just gonna cover my ears to all the facts user are presenting cause clearly these two conmen who lied under oath are probably leftleaning so I take their side

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nice story, pedo enabler

You need to stop forming your opinions based on normie emotional appealing low IQ shit solely.
Check the court documents of their case where they used those recordings as evidence and they are presented in their full form and shows how they made several cuts and edits to them to suit a narrative when it was to put them in the doc.

I'd probably find porn in your house as well

I don't sleep with kids

Kinda this
It's been a decade since he died and even longer since he was relevant. Everyone thought he was a creepy weirdo in the 90s
Who gives a fuck about a """"documentary"""""

Photography books are not porn

>make claims about someone when they're alive
>they either get proven guilty in court or sue you for libel
>make claims about someone when they're dead
>everyone just assumes claims are true

that's what makes him one of the greatest groomers of all time

>why aren't you watching this biased documentary?
same reason I dont watch other shite documentaries that only focus on one side. fuck me.

>he didnt have a childhood

yeh that sucks, since hes an adult i hope he can make up for it with his friends and that fairground he constructed in his backyar-

>so its totally normal for him to invite a conveyor belt of prepubescent boys to sleep in his bed and dump them when they get too old for the rest of his adult life, stop hating on mj!!

>mfw

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Still never found guilty, but I guess that doesn't mean anything to resetera

>Check the court documents of their case where they used those recordings as evidence and they are presented in their full form and shows how they made several cuts and edits to them to suit a narrative when it was to put them in the doc.
What case? They accused MJ in 2015 but the judge rejected it because of statue of limitation or some shit like that? Why are you making shit up, MJ drone? I've actually looked at the 2005 case and its obvious that he was a pedophile, some jurors are on camera saying that they thought he was guilty of child abuse too.

Ive seen it and idc for MJ.

It takes the absolute bare minimum amount of enquiry to fathom that this documentary is grade A horse shit.

That's not to say I think MJ is innocent though.

why wont you leave my father alone you racists, we're black and proud?

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I guarantee you every MJ apologist on this board voted for Trump. The only way you can defend MJ is by having enough cognitive dissonance to convince yourself that a man who had multiple bankruptcies, affairs, and married his daughter off to a jew was gonna make America great again

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The point is that trained actors (which these two men are, as Jackson met them while doing commercials) can easily get in front of a camera and lie well enough to convince rubes. I suppose you already knew that though, since by insisting their stories are now true you're also conceding that these two men were able to convincingly lie in front of a jury in Jackson's defense back during his earlier trials. Regardless of what you believe, these men have been proven to be skilled liars.

He was buying all the porn so no one else could get their hands on it

I mean literally porn, tranny porn in DVD and other video pornography, both homosexual and heterosexual.

youtube.com/watch?v=4YdFTlW6xbs

see

in my experience mj defenders say shit like yass queen on twitter

>So far literally EVERY person I know who's still defending MJ hasn't actually watched Leaving Neverland. They patently refuse to.

That's the real lesson here, OP. That people were and are so unwilling to have their illusions of MJ shattered, that they will completely turn a blind eye to any suggestion that he was less than the man his image convinced them of.

It's an indictment of fame and how the public, even these kids and their families, were complicit in what happened. Leaving Neverland is about blaming everyone for getting caught up in the mystique of Michael Jackson moreso than putting it all on MJ himself.

oh kkk so what

There's literally no reason to watch a one sided "documentary" that doesn't tell us shit we didn't already knew 20 years ago.

PLEASE, do some basic fucking research. Can you stop being used for two minutes?

Still never found guilty

Personally I won't watch it because I know it's a cash grab and doesn't produce any new evidence. We don't know what happened, we will never know for sure, but graphic stories from two people who recently changed their stories and are likely making a lot of money for telling them is of no interest to me. If someone comes out with video footage, convincing audio, or any one piece of solid evidence besides some dodgy art books I'll be interested. Until that day as far as I'm concerned Jacko was just a chemically castrated freak who may have been the nicest but most emotionally fucked guy in the world or may have indeed diddled some kids.

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They filed two cases, Channel 4 shill. You really couldn't bother with the basic of basics huh.
I hope Channel 4 isn't give you that much cause you're absolute shit at it.

MJ passed away before the glorious age of yaoi shota hentai.

neither was hitler

...

Prove it. Go on user, give me a source for it.

>Multiple people ITT claim that they watched it and still defend Jackson
>Immediately get dismissed by anti Jackson shills as liars while OPs story about knowing tons of Jackson defenders who won't watch it is believed entirely
By choosing to disregard all of the anecdotes that go against your point of view while believing the one's that support it you're doing the same shit that you accuse Jackson's defenders of doing.

the main reason mj was let off in the court case is the guy who is now accusing him and has a credible reason for flipping his story genius

LOL

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>Lied under oath
>Refused to get the part for some cirque de soleil fag role so he sued the MJ estate as retaliation
Credible alright

>I wiz brainwashed
>I wuz also brainwashed when I begged to get rehired as the choreographer for Jackson's show in 2011
>Credible reason

You mean the civil case that they just filed after the documentary which has no court proceeding yet?
Why don't you post the full version of those recordings?

I wasn't talking about anyone in this thread, I was talking about the people OP is referring to.

>If I saw it in a movie, then it's the truth
Quite childish, don't you think?

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>being under oath is a truth serum and the well documented process of child abuse victims forming a bond with and even defending their abuser until later in life doesn't exist

you should really watch the documentary user

WOOOOOPSIE
youtube.com/watch?v=xUlDSoPzLLs

>Evidence #309. Black leather laptop bag containing pornographic magazines and DVDs, several sheets of paper.

>Of the pieces of paper, one simply contained the words, ‘Paris and me’. Another was a Guess ad ripped from a magazine. The DVD was separated into evidence number #309-A. Other items in the bag included a pen, business card from Goldman Sachs, ripped-up fax pertaining to a concert details, batteries, jewelry, children’s book, some handwritten notes, and a syringe. It also contained a letter from a counselor at the Gary Community School Corporation, arranging plans to bring children to visit California in the first half of 2004.

>Also included were notes between Jackson and Gavin Arvizo, who later accused the pop star of molestation.

>The DVDs were the following titles: Michael Ryan’s Believe It or Not, which featured hardcore pornography, and Sloppy Dogs Presents: Fuck Me, I’m a Bad Girl.

>There were also two issues of Gallery, a pornographic magazine.

digitalmusicnews.com/2016/06/21/items-discovered-police-michael-jackson/

>Moving goalposts
>Still calling someone who lied under oath as credible
youtube.com/watch?v=wPSv_ejCraE

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Why was this image in the documentary? What did this have to do with anything?

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Obviously watching a documentary about Hitler or WW2 means you worship him

>Wait for MJ to die
>Suddenly remember he totally molested me and sue for big bucks
Yeah, fuck off.

If I told you I had aliens as neighbours you would believe just because I told you without any kind of evidence?

I have been posting a vast amount of links showing every single lie that not just Robson and Safechuck proclaimed in the documentary and their lawsuit, but also the lies from the Chandler Family and Arvizo Family.
If you're the one user that has been banging on the same key and ignored everything I have posted I am not going to waste my time with you.

Weird, I thought the documentary was about sexual abuse? This image has nothing to do with that? It almost seems like they were just trying to defame him.

History Channel used to show documentaries about Hitler 24/7.

what goalposts did i move?
why would a well documented psychological phenomenon suddenly not apply when hes 'under oath' in a court case? how thick are you?

i guess he got the news 10 years late?

>It almost seems like they were just trying to defame him
Ding ding ding, people do the scummiest thing for money

MJ has been accused of being a pedophile since the 80s

It’s not on Netflix where I am. Is it on Netflix in another country?

I found it on hulu, but only with the HBO extension, which I don’t have.

Physical pleasure is so 2018.

And we been calling you a fag for years

That's not what happened. Jesus, at least watch it before you put words in the guys' mouths.

Now it's fucking aliens and pawnshops 24/7

>sleep in bed with the children for 30+ days

i bet you think jimmy saville was innocent too

Nobody cares about your mental illness stories, Razorfist

If this documentary came out 25 years ago, I might have paid attention
it just makes the accusers look bad for waiting so fucking long

Hahahaha

Jacko was based, redpilled and innocent and no amount of jew propaganda is gonna change my mind

>he doesn't know

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What's that have to do with MJ being an abuser?
Bingo.
let's also forget to mention that both accusers currently have pending lawsuits with the estate, one has a pending lawsuit for his fathers company. One shopped a book around before going public, with extensive discrepancies between drafts and the story he told in public, and the other only went public when he was denied the job of choreographing MJ's Cirque du Soleil production.

You know there is retards that actually think pic related was a good and honest documentary, these same retards actually buys the scam artists message from the skewed ""documentary""

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He lied under oath after that as well. Stop insisting.

Damn bro you sound like the Jackson's family lawyer.

>Is it that convincing?
They have video and recordings of him grooming children in it, it's convincing whilst glossing over other boys stories or not mentioning them at all (Omer Bhatti)

I don't know whether he did or not, I just think there's fishy shit about both stories and if you actually get convinced by this documentary you need to grow some critical thinking skills, because a lot of the claims made were misleading or even outright false.
But that doesn't mean he's innocent either.

He's been found innocent in all related court cases

I am just someone who thinks we should believe survivors. You know, actual survivors.

I know, when he still thought mj did nothing wrong to him. This is common for child sexual abuse victims. Again, you realise being under oath isnt a truth serum that supercedes anything other motivation right?

you sound like the sort of person that says theyre not interested in watching a one sided documentary while watching youtube videos made by mj fanatics on why he did nothing wrong

I know, so either these two guys perjured themselves twice, or they're lying now, and a lot of the material in the documentary came from a book which already lost a libel case

>Still thinks he's credible after lying under oath

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>hurr durr watch muh documentary
No fag.
Why wasn't this "documentary" released while MJ was alive?

like the show survivors?

People who survived ISIS attackers or ISIS camps

IF YOU GET THE DICK YOU MUST ACQUIT

Or better yet, why wasn't this documentary released while Robson was still getting paid to choreograph Jackson's Vegas show?

Based MJ making nerds scream from beyond the grave
>Beat me hate me you can never break me

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Hitler was convicted in a court of law for his coup attempt in Bavaria.

Pretty funny that literally everyone who still defends him is a Jackson fan.

Ye so funny exdee, totally true btw

>tfw they're trying to kick him
>tfw they're trying to kike him
>tfw they're trying to black and white him
They don't really care about us.

I watched it. Thought Wade was full of shit m8.

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What exactly do you believe he did wrong, and what evidence do you have to support those beliefs?

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he probably raped this kid after this photo

Wade Robson's biggest fault was giving in during the 2005 trial and playing a big role in getting him off, James Safechuck told him no

he did nothing wrong. There is nothing wrong with love. He even married the kid.

It's almost like Jackson is one of the most universally popular musicians in human history and virtually everyone older than like 25 likes at least a few of his songs.

Probably cause it was true, and safechuck wanted money

Nah there are plenty of people who like his music but think he's guilty now, thing is there's no one who doesn't care about his music who thinks he's innocent.

EL AYUWOKI...

> Muh feelings over Facts

>safechuck wanted money
This is true for both of them but he was still a gay peadophile who molested children as young as 7 for 2 decades

That's not what I'm fucking talking about. He said to the court, under oath, that he had not approached anyone about the realization of being molested besides his family, his therapist and the Estate.
And then the court found he had been writing drafts for a book with his story and his version was vastly different from each draft, and then tried to close a deal with several publishers but none of them had any interest.
Not only he lied under oath, he omitted vital information, committed perjury and established a financial motive with that.
Kind of odd that was never mentioned in the heart string puller documentary, innit?

Again I have yet seen anyone be able to explain what he did wrong.

>he was still a gay peadophile who molested children as young as 7 for 2 decades

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>molested children as young as 7 for 2 decades

Can you please post some evidence to support that claim?

Are you requesting pictures?
That's a thinly veiled request for cheese pizza

So what was up with all the plastic surgery? Did he just not have a nose at the end? Why did he look like that in the end. Any plastic surgeons browsing Yea Forums?

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You cant mention the alleged victims wanting money without also mentioning the jackson state have a huge vested interest in protecting their money. Fallout from this doco has already led to stations and artists not playing his music. All those sweet, sweet royalties going down the drain.

have sex

Any and all plastic surgery, especially comparing 90 plastic surgery to modern one, is risktaking, either you get the result or you turn into a monstrosity, and trying to correct that mistake with more plastic surgery usually doesn't end up well

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I don't really care about the form(s) the evidence takes, but, yes, pictures would be an example.

>Watching a kike hit piece

They still play his music regularly in Sweden, I even listened to it on the radio to work this morning, SWEDEN, even this country does something better than virtue signalling radio stations in the US, as we don't buy the crap about the documentary

Because you're retarded lol

So you are requesting CP.

MODS!

user, how did you fall for bait this blatant?

Why bother watching known perjurers lie on camera for a quick score off a dead guy who was already found innocent?

thats my point, everyone who defends him already has a vested interest because his music makes them feel good, not so for the other side, there are plenty of people who wish the allegations werent true but believe them to be.

Sweden is run by pedophiles

Post MJ kino
youtube.com/watch?v=l039y9FaIjc

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>thinly veiled

?

Face it dude, the jig is up, MJ was a pedophile

What don't you get?

No u

I haven't heard a single MJ album.
If you need desperate use of strawmen you're probably wrong and should consider stop being wrong.

see

proof?

How come there were never allegations that he molested kids on the set/during the time of Moonwalker?

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I didn't. He can either say he was just pretending to be retarded, or he can actually address the issue. I'm fine either way (though I would prefer him to address the issue, but it looks like that won't happen, unsurprisingly).

>jew
Why did liberal faggots like you suddenly turn into Nazis? That was the number one thing you idiots screeched about and now you've completely shifted

Why are you defending that pedophile then?

Cause nothing happened, and the kids in Moonwalker has more dignity

youtube.com/watch?v=Bf5ntoOsiZ4

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>dude you think a documentary with footage of MJ being a creep is proof?? What an idiot
>DUDE THIS ONE MEME THOUGH HAHA BE BRAINWASHED BY THIS INSTEAD

youtube.com/watch?v=aGEl6BkjouU

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I never really thought about these sex allegations that put on MJ and I saw this documentary and I'm still skeptical about all of this.

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youtube.com/watch?v=slSJgdlDXx0

So you admit to being brainwashed by the docu, case and point.

Watch the documentary, he slept with little boys. He was a pedophile, I don't give a fuck about what the courts say, its rigged for rich pedophiles like MJ

Not him, but I also dislike his music. I'm "defending him" because people continue to spew accusations and condemn him despite having no evidence.

Pretty crazy that MJ slept alone with young boys and literally no one knows what happened behind those doors except MJ and them and 4 of them have said he molested them over a period of like 40 years but he's innocent haha just weird haha

I liked him in the film Ghosts.

A SHAMONE A HEE HEE SHAMON SHAMON A WOOO A HEE HEE A SHAMONE SHAMONE SHOAMONE

holy, i want more...

youtube.com/watch?v=wPSv_ejCraE

What would you consider evidence? A video shoot in full HD of MJ saying "I am a pedophile and a I enjoy fucking kids" and then proceeding to rape a child? That's not how it works, specially with famous people that have a lot of persons that cover-up and clean-up for them. Go read the court papers from his 2005 trial and its obvious he was a pedophile. He's even on camera admitting that he sleeps with kids.

Because I entered this whole shitstorm out of curiosity as a neutral observer, did my homework and learned every single point made by people like you were false and was originated from low IQ pre clickbait media that was bought by one the largest japanese conglomerates on Earth. Everyone surrounding the first two cases admitted they lied and Wade and Robson doesn't have to admit because it has been proven several times that they lied about several things.
And, because unlike you, my only investment in this is my deep disdain for ignorance, misinformation and dumb americans, I am educating the low crawling vermin lot of you to stop being so goddamn stupid.

Not so crazy when you consider that he was an international superstar that loved children and anyone accusing him of assault could potentially walk away with a 8 figure payout.

>He's guilty because I say so
Leftism was a mistake

pedophile

Here's a little secret user, most adults love children, even famous ones.

They don't invite random (pretty and male) ones to sleep in their bed and dump them when they get a little older, though,

fuck, I hadn't seen this since I was a kid/ fanatical MJ fan circa 91/92.

That would be an example, yes.

Also, just so we're clear, I couldn't care less about whether or not he was a pedophile and whether or not people claim he was. I'm more concerned about the claims that he molested children.

This

>Is it that convincing?
How would they know if they haven’t seen it, you fucking dingus?

Most adults aren't like Jackson in the sense that spending time with them would be a dream for a child. Normal people don't visit loads of random young kids in the hospital, but John Cena does, because he's famous.

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So Wade and Robson are liars. The other two boys who came forward are liars. That one german guy who has a CP book signed by MJ is a liar? The tons of pictures, phone calls, photographs of MJ being alone with his accusers are also lies? Latoya Jackson calling MJ a pedophile is also a lie? The Police finding CP and porn in his home is also a lie?
The only one telling the truth is the Jackson Family Estate, right?

You are not immune to propaganda

Someone check if Cena invites kids to sleepovers
Never hurts to check

If John Cena only visited a specific profile of sick child, and insisted he be left alone with them for hours consistently, and 4 of them said Cena had molested them during this time, would you be a little worried about Cena's motivations? Ohh, but he just loves spending time with children!

It's times like these that remind me what an incredibly based man Jarvis Cocker is

I bet the Female Ghostbusters also did some shady shit with kids, seeing they visited some before the premier in costume

lmao MJ fans can't cope with the fact that their idol is a homosexual pedophile

Did they invite them to sleep in their bed and have multiple children accuse them of sexual abuse? I missed that.

how come you NEED him to be one? it's like you enjoy the possibility

So you're telling me on top of being a financial and musical genius he's also one of the greatest manipulators/liars to have ever lived?? Wow, how did he do it?

You are just a hater

SHAMONE SHAMONE SHAMONE A HEE HEE A WOO

You have to wait a few years before their pockets are empty and that they get to a "sudden realization" about what happened

the only thing that documentary did was take a bunch of shit already known and spin it just like they do with the ancient aliens show in history channel to make it sound more credible

Who cares if he diddled kids? His music is great

I can compartmentalize the acts from the art

weird that random children havent accused all other rich and famous people in the same way ahaa, just wonder its weird haha

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Are you part of the Pepsi Generation?

youtube.com/watch?v=po0jY4WvCIc

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>calling a multistory suite a room

Weird that all these facts presented, and you still believe two scam artists

>first bulletpoint of 'facts you wont hear in leaving neverland'
>the fact is not only shown in leaving neverland, why they denied it happened even though they were abused is basically the focus of the entire documentary

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Here's the thing:
You should always do/believe the OPPOSITE of what jews say. Since in this case, the jews are telling you MJ is guilty then in fact MJ is innocent.

I don't know why I'm wasting my fucking time.
Over a hundred families and their children testified as part of the investigations, all of them defended Jackson.
The only two families who didn't, had a clear financial motive. Evan Chandler, the one who opened the first lawsuit approached Michael pitching him to finance his screenplay writer career and Jackson denied it.
Then he made first accusation and tried to get a deal without filing a suit. It didn't happen so he filed the suit saying his son was abused. His son denied all that until he went to spend a weekend with his dad, then he went on board.
His dad was recorded by his brother's ex wife on the phone saying he was going to extort Michael.
The second family had a history of scamming other celebrities, all who testified to their rat ways. They were caught on camera laughing and saying how Michael dindu nuffin before realizing they were being recorded.

The german guy you are referring to has no book of CP signed by MJ, that wasn't even the actual fake claim. The claim was that he was a pedo photographer and some of his work were featured on one of the art books seized during the raid, which was used as the main case for the pedo stash. Not only it wasn't pornographic as it wasn't even Michael's, some fan gave it to him with a dedicatory written in front, and it was one among over 1000 books in his library.

All this shit you've said about pictures, phone calls and notes I already debunked because there's HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of that with Michael and several other people, boys, girls and their parents, and he rarely ever was alone with them, even the Robson and Safechuck pictures show their families constantly present. Not only that but we have pictures of Safechuck and Michael hanging out after he grew up, when he said his documentary he never met him again past completing 14.
And again, ALL of these people that shared the same experiences with the two defends him, the only ones who didn't had

This is big brain

Now read the rest

That's some mental gymnastics only a literal who leftie you gave a like to could do

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clear financial motives.

Latoya Jackson defended his brother until her abusive husband started to force her to lie, there are pictures of her bruised in the fucking face and everyone confirms she lived in fear. Once they broke up she admitted he forced her.

THE
FUCKING
END

If you brush this off it's proof you have an agenda on this and you should drink cyanide.

Anyone else find that audio recording of Jackson grooming that kid on the plane really creepy?

Kid: What was your favorite thing about visiting [place] MJ?
MJ: My favorite thing was being there with YYOOOUUUuuuououuouou~

Ah you mean the voice clip that was tampered and edited?

Look at how MJ groomed all these duds, This shit has already been addressed in the doco and multiple interviews they've done - they answer these points heck even the director explains in great detail as to his process of filming the whole thing. You're all proving you haven't seen or listened to their interviews and just go off random youtubers and MJ drone social media channels. Well done

No, the other one

Look at this dude. It's like debating with flat earthers. You can't win with logic

>Stop presenting all these facts reee, they don't represent how I FEEL about MJ

I watched the documentary and I still believe MJ is innocent. The documentary felt one sided and manipulative.

this movie was pure cringe

>two soft core pedo books

I mean he was rich and powerful, he could've had stacks if he wanted

Kek
Imagine desperately wanting to have a white nose and white features and then by chance you get a disease that makes your skin go white. I wonder if MJ was ecstatic or depressed with the vitiligo diagnosis

not as creepy as this one, fucking scary youtube.com/watch?v=3dXIipiFBYU

100% certain that the audio recording of the plane he presented in the documentary was edited

Why should anyone keep pursuing this if he's long dead?

Because there is no laws that protect against dead people being slandered and sued for money from relatives

There is nothing wrong with the earth being flat argo, there's nothing wrong with what Michael Jackson did A SHAMONE A HEE HEE WOOOOO SHAMONE!

Makes me incredibly depressed to know that the world is filled with people so unbelievably stupid that they believe anything they see in a movie, even when they know there is no actual evidence.

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You sound like a mentally ill MJ fan

Post the full version then

Not gonna watch the documentary.
What new proof is there?
A pornmag with MJ's fingerprints on it which he showed the kids 5 months before it was published?
A fake accusation of having child porn in his computer despite none of it being found at all?
Or perhaps a fully reliable source, that just before being interviewed had sued MJ, and 20 years prior had about nothing at all happening?

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get litty

>telling a pedo apologist to have sex
IDK if that’s such a good idea, user...

The mustache just makes him look gay.

I've been looking around youtube and twitter and its full of people defending him and using the same arguments we see in those MJ threads. The Jackson Family must be spending a lot of money for this level of damage control

>NOOO dont point out my tampered "evidence!!!!"
hang yourself retard.

IF IT WAS TRUE THAT MICHAEL JACKSON MOLESTED KIDS, IS IT WRONG FOR HBO TO MAKE MONEY OFF IT AND HIDE THE TRUTH BEHIND A PAYWALL? A HEE HEE SHAMONE!

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I mean, what kind of gay paedophile would build an entire amusement park in his garden, tell everyone he never had a childhood so he could constantly hang out with kids there, and only invite the stereotypically cutest and male 7-14 year old ones to sleep alone with him in his bedroom?

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Why does nobody defend OJ the way they defend MJ? Both were huge celebrities, both were never convicted, both were only challenged by anecdotal evidence.

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found the H3H3 faggot

The thing is all of those arguments have been addressed in the doco and post interviews with them and the director himself. They're closing their eyes and regurgitating the same shit. And I'm pretty sure they have no idea what child abuse is or what grooming is

They're contradicting what they said under oath, meaning that their word is completely worthless. The FBI investigated MJ for years and found him innocent. Sorry cucks

HBO IS MAKING MONEY OFF CHILDREN BEING MOLESTED IS HBO A PEDOPHILE

>b-but he was a pedo

it's not a crime you know, maybe he was but he simply didn't molest those kids

Do you think it’d be less suspicious if he threw a few girls in the mix?

found the guy literally defending a serial child rapist

jacko never released a book titled "I Didn't Diddle Dem Kids But If I Done Did I'd Have Done Diddled Em Like Dis"

Girls have cooties user. Why would Michael want that?

>EVERY person I know
You mean your mom?

You should check out that faggot 'razorfist's desperate cope about this, he can't handle being wrong about anything and he just launches into 15 year old arguments. Some people are so fragile they can't even have their opinions about dead celebrities be challenged

He obviously did, see his sham marriage

vocaroo.com/i/s1zNhD4UTW2p

nice headcanon

Nah, the man always had a very deep cult of fans. Mostly retards who bought into the messiah who will heal the world image. Look at the twitter accounts of the people defending him - these people view him as a "pure" man, somehow "too good for the world" - a transracial singing dancing Jesus, in fact. These people are deeply attached to the image of the guy for decades. If the messiah is indeed a pretender, does that make their life a lie? These people always insist he was a beautiful childlike soul. Shows you that a carefully projected corporate image can shield you from anything.

jacko didn't do this when the cops came for him
youtube.com/watch?v=jUyWS6j5rS4

Confirmed for paid shill. Only paid shills have been repeating this strawman the entire week.
How much you getting, parasite?

Not only that, but he went on TV and cuddled in front of the camera with one of the kids he raped and said he sleeps with him on the same bed. MJ is probably the greatest pedophile in history.

Because it is very fucking obvious OJ murdered someone, retard.

People don’t like to be around ugly people. Not everything is about sex.

But he's making that incel video view count money all the way.

cause OJ is guilty and MJ is not

What's up with everyone using the exact same arguments against flat earthers anyway? It's so obvious they're being paid by NASA, why would all these people say the same things to me?

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I see. I thought it was because of the fact there is no evidence to indicate he abused those kids.

youtube.com/watch?v=6p8CgdRLnDQ

>Not only that, but he went on TV and cuddled in front of the camera with one of the kids he raped and said he sleeps with him on the same bed. MJ is probably the greatest pedophile in history
Are you talking about that beaner kid? He was found not guilty and it was proven that family was trying to extort celebrities.

But what type of evidence do you want? A video of him fucking the kids?

Another good documentary about Michael Jackson's pedophilia:
youtube.com/watch?v=1Yp91zKBGgY

No evidence at all would still be better than a mountain of indisputable evidence against the accusers.

That famous interview from the bashir documentary

oh yes this maid who was also caught bullshitting several times is totally credible, just like she said Michael would leave tons of soiled underwear all over the place yet the 70 main police raid couldn't find a single pair lying around

Why not? We have recording proving the accusations against him were a con-job.
youtube.com/watch?v=0NlhDPjEI8I
You'd think if a common guy can be taped, so can MJ.

>the Michael Jackson Simpsons episode is no longer going to be on air either
#MeToo destroys everything good

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That's exactly the only type of evidence that /pol/sharts and manchildren will accept. Ironic thing is such evidence probably did/does exist, but the family/lawyers would have buried or destroyed it by now.

Once of the former maids thought he made films of abuse, and he had a huge camera fetish.

>transracial singing dancing Jesus
That'd be pretty cool, actually

shouldn't Yea Forums be supporting MJ if the jews and sjw hate him?

OJ is a fucking greasy nigger murderer. MJ is a perfect white Aryan prince.

Now fuck off back to Africa, Spade-o-matric 4000.

Okay, yeah him.
MJ never cuddled up to him. The kid did though, he'd rest his head on MJ but Michael never does anything to him.

Why does MJ make the tranny discorders seethe so much? Is it because he beat them at their game of ruining children's lives?

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>the evidence existed once it’s just that no one has seen it
do you believe the people who have met big foot too, by any chance?

>he believes the frog that was caught selling stolen shit from Michael on eBay and owed him reparation gibs
This is beyond satire.

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Fact: In this day and age no one will ever accept a grown man sleeping in bed with a child - even for 1 night. No matter how famous he is.

Ah those days you could get away with murder because you were famous and beloved

yeah that's what happening right now

There is nothing but anecdotes from admitted liars in the "documentary". Why bother with it?

>kikes attempting to dab on MJ

youtube.com/watch?v=TqghkzaqH_o

No evidence at all would still be better than a mountain of indisputable evidence against the accusers.
No evidence at all would still be better than a mountain of indisputable evidence against the accusers.
No evidence at all would still be better than a mountain of indisputable evidence against the accusers.

there's nothing more loving than sharing your bed with someone user your ignorant

Unironically this. They just want to deprecate his estate and absorb it into the Jew media empire. It's not about the alleged abuse. This is a classic example of the system re-purposing social movements to its own ends.
1. #metoo is started to address the systematic abuse culture IN HOLLYWOOD.
2. Discussion is reframed, #metoo not about (((Hollywood))), this is a problem with men more generally.
3. Now that the outrage is no longer pointed at (((the actual problem))) it can be used to serve the system.

The juden are inside the thread right now, my friend. Look at the strawmaning about /pol/ and using the words of well known liars.
Can you smell it?

There seem to be plenty of people disputing it user.

>pedowood on the verge of being exposed
>oy vey, better make another MJ expose

even if it's true who gives a flying fuck when we know there are guilty people out there unexposed

I agree with timeline discrepancies, time-traveling mom dancing after MJ's death, accuser being a dedicated fan until he didn't get the job he wanted and all but...
Why did MJ have a pedophiliac book in his house?

Like what?

This has been said again and again. The parents could have been trying to pimp their kids to then accuse MJ and get money AAAANDDDD MJ could had been a pedophile too. The two things can be true.

This thread is very anti MJ.

I watched the doc. It is very influential if you are from the new generation under 25 that didnt really keep up with it in the present.

There is no "new" evidence, just new testimonies by people who are proven liars and most of them are somehow on hard times or owe MJ estate from a previous lost case. Take all their shit with a grain of salt.

If you believe the FBI covered for MJ and destroyed any evidence of pedophilia and everyone who defended him were all lying under oath and now the truth is coming out instead of them wanting just a bit more $ then I have a bridge to sell you.

if he was a pedo, why did he have a sum total of two softcore nonce books?

he did with children and you are whining about it
there is no wining with you people

He didn't. The only legitimate porn he was found with were generic Playboy and Penthouse. Of course like two of the art books he owned had kids in them he could have theoretically masturbated to but they were not pornographic.

It was an artistic photobook given to him by a fan, and it was simply one book out of tens of thousands in his home.
Why wasn't MJ ever charged with kiddie porn (or anything)?

>a

You mean multiple pedophile books

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They think it's /pol/ defending him so they have organized in their little shithole to attack MJ to stick up to the mean alt right.
And it's the same retard that always try to argue that marxism works but doesn't understand even the basic premises of it.
By far the worst poster of this board.
I mean, if the dude couldn't grasp the surface level logic that refutes marxism it's no wonder he's been rejecting every single factual evidence presented the entire week that proves he's a moron that believes two weasel and one cyst head director.

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How is he a dumb guy? Missed his mark on a backflip stunt he probably pulled off a hundred times before. Freak accident or miscalculation.

TFW 600lb incels think any physical activity that extends beyond gaming thumb maneuvers is dumb.

That was Boys will be Boys right? It's creepy. Of course I only know about this because of some websites that calls itself objective but it seems to push only one kind of arguments.

Fucking Brits.

terrible argument. it sounds like it was thought up by a third grader

it's like when a parent tells their kid "whatever" so the kid goes off and does the most awful thing, and then say, "but you said whatever". you know god damn well that's not what they meant, you little shithead

>and everyone who defended him were all lying under oath
If Wade lied in 2005 when he was 22 years old in the trial. Isn't that a crime? it won't be consequences against him?

There literally isn't.
No evidence at all would still be better than a mountain of indisputable evidence against the accusers.

his friend pulled the chair at the last second
it's a metaphor for israel turning on liberal jews

>MJ fans are trying to push the narrative that jews and discord trannies are the ones accusing MJ of being a pedophile.
What a timeline, lads kek

fuck off retard

youtube.com/watch?v=kKPBZHpinLs

His 'friend' does not pull the chair you fucking idiot. He has his weight bearing down on the chair and it slides back from the force that hits it. Probably a stronger person should have been holding it.

SHAMONE

Not going to keep repeating myself every time someone that doesn't know the stuff shows up, been doing all week and for all I know it's always the same discord tranny that has been ignoring everything factual.
If you aren't, start from here and follow the rabbit hole.
youtube.com/watch?v=rgSbSotJgUY

Ok I will watch it later but do you understand what I said?

All of this can be true at the same time:

>MJ was pedophile and abused the kids.
>The families pimped their kids for money.
>Now the abused kids want money so they start telling the truth because they don't win more money from MJ' state.

I found the reaction from both sides pretty hilarious.
All the media figures suddenly condemning Michael Jackson as if it wasn't already known that he molested kids was hilarious. What, so you forgot about all those other people who had come out saying he had diddled them?
And all the edgy contrarians on here saying MJ did nothing wrong are also hilarious. These are the same people who 10 years ago would have called him a pedo back when everyone in the mainstream media was mourning his death. Or maybe they're just zoomers who are only just hearing about it. Either way it's embarrassing.

My interpretation was that these kids were in love with Michael Jackson and that he did have sexual and emotional relationships with them. Now that they're older and there's a financial incentive to label it as abuse and he's no longer around, that's what they're doing. But it seemed pretty clear to me that they were willingly having a relationship with and defending their idol. If my "dream girl" had contacted me at that age, I absolutely would have wanted to live with and have sex with her. I was masturbating at five years old and at least in my mind I would have been able to consent. I understand there are some power dynamics at play and we can argue "consent", but emotionally I would have been able to consent. Would it have been a terrible decision where an adult would have been able to take advantage of me? Absolutely. Anyways...they seemed crushed and I was somewhat able to empathize with them when they were no longer the main kid. You've been invited into your idol's bedroom and you 100% have their attention and affection, and then you're banished, and the fun ends. It would have sucked.

That cirque du soleil shit burries his entire credibility and that letter he sent at that time. I'm with Feldman and Culkin on this one: nothing substancial as far as I can see but I can only speak for myself who knows. Now about those NAMBLA books..

>But it seemed pretty clear to me that they were willingly having a relationship with and defending their idol.
Bro, one of them was 7 when Michael rimmed his boyhole.

theres nothing wrong with man boy love

You can look up Yea Forums posts from 10 years ago of people defending him, kiddie.

youtube.com/watch?v=dZz0axVISj8
youtube.com/watch?v=e-Gy-nhmO-M
dailymotion.com/video/x2ws950

No you can't, archives don't go back that far

south park is ignorant

Maybe not for this piece of shit meme board, but for the real Yea Forums boards some archives do

S01-10 of south park was the best

It's convincing UNTIL you find out that the doc is full of shit and that those faggots did give the courts and doctors "repressed memories". And they lied about it never being about debunked repressed memories.