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I don't really like this guy in real life nor his character but the new Picard show is looking comfy as it progresses.

>t. tos/voy/ent rankfag

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That's not a scene faggot

Norm for Mr. Fantastic

Season 2 is very good.

If you thought a single episode of season 1 was good, your """opinion""" is irrelevant and wrong.

Yes it is

Kay, kiddo.

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Name a comfier bridge

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What the fuck is Norm Macdonald in Star Trek?

Orville.

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I looked around and he seems to be a flubber thing most of the time, does he even appear often or just time to time?

>voyager
>god tier

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You mean as the gelatin creature? He's only appeared as straight up human Norm once for one minute.

I appreciate subverting these charts by not putting any Star Trek below mid tier, but come on. Voyager and Enterprise above TNG and DS9? Cringe.

Yaphit is the best thing about the Orville. Just like Pigeon is the best thing about Mike Tyson Mysteries.

/trek/ bros, should I watch Discovery or will it just make me angry? Things like the Romulans having cloaking devices in Enterprise really bother me and I feel like Discovery won't be pleasant.

>Things like the Romulans having cloaking devices in Enterprise really bother me
If you're that autistic, do everyone a favor stay away from it and just continue jerking off to Picard.

ENT was only full of soft retcons
STD is just full on retcons of everything the previous five shows established, but they refuse to say it's a reboot

Yeah he's using the Holoshed to create a false appearance for himself.

Wasn't TNG full of TOS retcons?

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>It's ok if it happened before I was paying attention

>REEEEEE the Enterprise has an inflatable Enterprise that fools Klingon sensors!
>REEEEEE Klingons look different and the captain no longer goes on away teams!
>REEEEEE Trill look different and have a different relationship with their host bodies!
>REEEEEE Voyager!
>REEEEEE Klingons still look different even though it's set before TOS and also Vulcan lore is all differenty!
>REEEEEE Klingons look different again and there's new characters and different technology being showcased on a science vessel as opposed to a flagship!
>REEEEEE Romulans look different and Picard has been retconned to have been a former outlaw!

>the poster
>the uniform

True kino

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To be fair, TOS is full of TOS retcons.

You mean you don't jerk off to Picard?

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I actually agree with this.

I think I LIKE the TOS one the most but it's not very creative and took no effort to design. The Pike one loses points for not looking as comfy despite it being the same outfit lore-wise

Discovery is ten times the prequel Enterprise is. It actually uses it's place as a prequel to add to things rather than being pointless references.

It doesn't do any of that incredibly cringe "hey remember that race you know and love that we won't meet for decades well here they are BUT WE WON'T MENTION THEM BY NAME HEH!" shit or awful crap where all the 'low tech' technology was exactly the same as everything in The Next Generation but with a slightly different name.

>The Pike one loses points for not looking as comfy despite it being the same outfit lore-wise
It's literally a recolored Discovery uniform. I could deal with most of it, but the fact that they kept that awful collar bugs the shit out of me for some reason. I could have lived with a black collar like most of TOS and ignored the turtleneck. I'm not that anal. But the asymmetrical folded over collar just look really stupid.

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>Discovery is ten times the prequel Enterprise is.
Alright buddy, I like Discovery but don't fucking push it, dipshit.

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Is that seriously a cup holder in the middle

Should I become a trip fag

How could you not include Selar???

Based Sulu customizing his bridge. The absolute MADMAN. How does he keep getting away with it? I mean, the STATE of it.

Sure. Give in.

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It's a tea cup, the picture being low quality makes it hard to see

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God that's so fucking based.

So what's the difference between NX and NCC?

NX basically means "experimental" and not commissioned into full active duty.

It's like how in the real world before fighters get an F- designation, they're YF-

NX is an experimental / prototype ship
NCC is a normal ship of the line

Not too many when they stopped reusing II scripts.
The biggest TOS retcon is probably the relative lack of god beings besides Q and Kevin Uxbridge.
Oh, and contaminated near-Earth societies so there's an excuse to use cowboy or roman shit from different productions. Thank christ for holodeck episodes.

>The biggest TOS retcon is probably the relative lack of god beings besides Q and Kevin Uxbridge.
Is this a retcon, though? They never say there WEREN'T such a thing as Organians, Metrons, or Thasians.

The biggest TOS retcon is that TNG Klingons and Romulans are 100% incompatible with their TOS versions

They swapped the two. Straight up.

>Why are they putting seatbelts in theaters?

To keep you from leaving

I don't consider it a full retcon so mush as just not mentioning things that don't fit the vibe of the updated universe they are in. Presumably they still exist out there but are ignored to avoid one of the few TOS criticisms I have. Too many superpowered beings who's discovery would have really altered human culture and donkey punched a lot of established religions. Not saying that breaks the Trek universe, but it would make things like references to Greek mythology feel kind of empty. Maybe I'm not explaining it well.

I agree with this. Nothing to do with the make-up. They exchanged cultures.

Dubsminion.

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I want the white from that mommy vorta

ENT uniforms were perfect for the setting

Pure function, no frills, with function colour on the shoulders

90s Trek sweaters fucking suck

>Discovery is ten times the prequel Enterprise is

Ey ey woah woah never go full pleb

He’s absolutely right. At least STD is lead with enthusiasm, albeit misguided.

>Based Sulu customizing his bridge.
he made it a gay bath house?

>>Georgiou spy spin-off
The only one I'd be interested in. Great actress (evil *or* good), character is actually fascinating.

It's good, but I always felt it was leaning a little too close to militaristic.

And the late-DS9/TNG movie uniforms were just trying too hard to look serious. Really, what the hell is with that quilted pattern?

Do they have an Infinite Improbability Drive?

It's good, but I always felt it was leaning a little too close to militaristic. TMP uniforms would have been fine if they kept the original divisions colors in more muted tones.

And the late-DS9/TNG movie uniforms were just trying too hard to look serious. Really, what the hell is with that quilted pattern?

Everytime I go to watch babylon 5 its great but it sucks that the visuals weren't able to get the upgrade

How did DS9 manage to make one of the best things in all of trek, the mirrorverse, terrible?

Name one thing STD has added that's more interesting than the development of the andorians for ENT.

DS9 treated it as just an opportunity for actors to camp it up and play wacky alternate versions of themselves rather than caring about the plot first

Because the mirror universe only works as a one off concept and going back to it is stupid. But fundamentally DS9 just needed to many conveniences to justify seeing so many familiar faces on the mirror DS9, though mirror kira and ezri is top tier kino

Spock's entire family history. The entire bit in the first season about what caused Spock and Sarek's schism was great and recontextualized their relationship while honoring everything we previously knew about it completely

Ok what did it add using completely new characters with a lesser known race in canon? As good as he may be I have no interest in seeing a third spock and Pike the first two were fine with me

Which is weird, because we already had a "miles an evil overlord in the holo program" which was kinda fun.

People dislike Ezri, but she's top tier cute. Just my type.

It doesn't help that she was an 11th hour replacement but she was a good addition to the cast. Just a dang cutie

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Because the writers didn't actually care about developing the concept of a parallel reality, let alone an "evil" parallel reality. They just used it for the seasonal lark episodes.

>though mirror kira and ezri is top tier kino
Get out.

Okay /trek/ after I finish ENT S2 I want to try some different trek.

What should I watch?

VOY and DS9 were airing when I was a kid and I hated them, but I'm willing t to give them a go

You can call it a goalpost move but one of the things I hated about the first season was the connection to spock. Why do we need to see that? Isn't there enough in the galaxy to avoid another peak into a secret origin?

they smooched user, they smooched and it made my wiener feel good and there is nothing you can do about it!

The Kelpian/Baul pose one of the most interesting Prime Directive scenarios the series has had, and gifted us a top tier main character as a bonus

Another issue was that Jadzia just started to get good. At the start of DS9 she just was kinda "there", giving advice from time to time, and being used to explain trill culture / history.
Towards the later season she actually had a personality. Liking rough sex and klingon food, and not taking shit.
Then they switcher her for Ezri who was cute but.. meh.

Watch DS9. I wish I could watch it for the first time again

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Newfag here, should I watch Voyager past season 2?

Why, what's good about it?

Voyager actually gets better as it goes. Not much better, but reasonably so.

>extroverts Archer and Tucker oppressing introvert T'Pol by making her fraternise with the crew

YAMEROOOOOO

Do you think they regret giving Rom that "duuuh-uuuh" Idiot voice? Clearly, later on they tried real hard to show that he has smarts and a heart and everything, But he still had that idiot voice.

DS9 is in general a pretty nuanced and interesting take compared to TNG before it - less Federation perfection, more grey areas, more views from outside the Starfleet bubble, but without leaning so hard into it that it's cynical or grimderp.

Not without it's faults and it stumbles pretty hard on some of it's good concepts, but I'd dare say it's a show where the worst case would be "not my thing" really than it ever being bad.

That's an interesting take, I'll give it a go.

As a kid I couldn't tell it apart from TNG and VOY, I'd assumed it was just more of the same

I guess it's also worth mentioning there are kind of two DS9s - it starts off as a still pretty TNG/VOY like show, episodic stories but with the setting shifted to a frontier space station in neutral territory rather than Federation starship, in a place that was considered a backwater that becomes very important because [plot]

A couple of seasons in, it basically focus shifts to being about a major space-war over that territory the space station is in (and the galaxy at large with it)

That's the point where it became less my thing, but lots of people love that.

How long does it take to get going? Trek series always seem to have a rocky start.

I want to make sure I'm giving it a proper chance

I have to agree. The uniforms were a good in-between for a fledgling Earth space fleet that feels connected to both the future and the "past" NASA utilitarianism. The writing was a big issue until too late. They should have stuck closer to the space-is-hard concept that an early exploration ship would have had.

>Because the mirror universe only works as a one off concept
So much this. Every attempt to revisit it since then has been a colossal mistake.

While I whole heartedly believe that, I still wanna see a mirror universe TOS Enterprise crew vs the Prime TNG universe, finally give us the Picard vs Kirk battle every has wanted for almost thirty years

On the other hand, the Maquis are probably the dumbest faction in the whole franchise. I know the blame here partly goes to The Next Generation, but still, I can't feel sympathy for a faction that sprang out of--we don't want to leave this planet, we'd rather be annexed by a bunch of assholes, oh no who could've seen this oppression coming!

If I was captain I would seriously put a little table in front of the chair too. It's so useful.

I don't buy movie themed items but I would love to have a few of those cups knocking around. They're so swanky.

Season 2 finale/season 3. But again, that's only if you're into an overarching plot versus episodic character development.