I didn't like this movie as i was watching it, but now I can't stop thinking about it

I watched it years ago, but I still remember almost every single scene. It's absolutely unforgettable.
I don't think any other film ever managed to surrealism and brutality in such an effective way.

>the germans dindu nuffin it was all russian hackers
>wehrmacht was clean guys I swear

>google stalin order 428
>most credible source is a stormfront thread and a /r/conspiracy post

You'll find the document in the National Archive of Washington:
Archive Series 429, Rolle 461, General’s Headquarters of the Army, Division, foreign Units East II H 3/70 Fr 6439568. Filed: National Archive Washington)
[1][in progress] “Fackelmänner Befehl” (torch men-order) confirmed.
Russian Security Service FSB published Stalin’s order No. 0428

Lmao

>Stalins Order #0428,
found only in washington
>“Fackelmänner Befehl”
named in german instead of russian

really makes you think

That's a sign that you watched a great movie. The fact that you didn't like it speaks of you.

More right wing fabrications: pic.

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>17th November 1941
>several months after the invasion and german atrocities first started
If you're going make up sources, at least get the dates right baka

>The book says this based on the fact that the order has been released in the following source released by the russian military archive:
>Stavka VGK. Dokumenty i materialy 1941 god . Moskau 1996 = Velikaja Otecestvennaj a 5 , 1 , S.299 f. , Prikaz y Narodnog o Kommissara Oborony SSSR 22 ijunja 1941 g . - 1942 g . Moskau 1997 = Velikaja Otecestvennaj a 2 , 2 , S.120 f

>Besides of that "Sergej Slutsch" did take a look at a copy of the original document which is stored here:
Central'ny j Archiv Ministerstvo Oborony RF in Podols'k, Fon d4, Opis ' 11, Delo 66, List 221

>And he confirmed that only the part quoted by you above is actually in there. Anything behind that is not found in any official documents.

>The author does add that this does not mean that there haven't been any actions like that though.
>Following source claims that there have been attacks on villages commited by russian partisans who did wear German uniforms while commiting them:
Archiv des Instituts für Zeitgeschichte München, MA 1564, NOKW 2535, S.18

>this fucker posting about Stalin
That has barely anything to do with the Belarussian madness that Come and See covers you dummy

Now you're going to say the Dirlewanger brigade is just fairy tales aswell.

Consider this:

The Reich controlled Europe between Moscow, Finland and the Black Sea. Why were these atrocities carried out only on Soviet territories before their being occupied by the Reich?
Why would any army film and widely distribute images of atrocities that would reflect badly on them and later indict them on war crime charges?
Where is the logic in an advancing army destroying its means of sustenance and support as it advances?

In fact the German policy was precisely the opposite to that of Britain and America’s ally. The function of the Reich’s Ostacker Program (Eastern Fields Program) was to restore the lands and return rural property to the peoples of the regions occupied by the German forces: (Archive Series 429, roller 461, General Use Division, Foreign Units East li H 3/70 Fri 6,439,568th Filed: National Archives Washington).

The Torch-Man order signed by Stalin was released by the Russian government. The Order specifically carries instruction that it was ‘important to leave a few survivors who would report the supposed German terror attacks’.

>The Generalplan Ost (German pronunciation: [ɡenəˈʁaːlˌplaːn ˈɔst]; English: Master Plan for the East), abbreviated as GPO, was the Nazi German government's plan for the genocide and ethnic cleansing on a vast scale, and colonization of Central and Eastern Europe by Germans. It was to be undertaken in territories occupied by Germany during World War II. The plan was partially realized during the war, resulting directly and indirectly in the deaths of 9.4 to 11.4 million ethnic Slavs by starvation, disease, execution or extermination through labor, including 4.5 million Soviet citizens, 2.8 to 3.3 million Soviet POWs, 1.8 to 3 million Slavic Poles, 300 to 600 thousand Serbs and 20 to 25 thousand Slovenes.

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You know absolutely nothing about Belarus and the Dirlewanger brigade and this entire film. Nothing you posted has anything to do with it.
Klimov the director literally had to fight for 8 years straight in order to release it because the soviet government didn't want it to be released under any circumstance.
This is mainly because the majority of the "germans" in the film are ukrainian collaborators (like it actually happened), as evident by that entire under the bridge scene. Literally soviets killing soviets.

Stop mindlessly spewing copy paste bullshit in random ass threads that have nothing to do with it.

WOODEN DOORS

excuse me?

>Why would any army film and widely distribute images of atrocities that would reflect badly on them and later indict them on war crime charges?
Because at this point in the war they didn't think they would lose. Fucking retard.
>Where is the logic in an advancing army destroying its means of sustenance and support as it advances?
The Wehrmacht only destroyed entire villages when they were responding to either legitimate or fabricated partisan activity, or to deny shelter/resources to advancing or encircled Red Army forces. It was not something they did just because - not usually, anyway.
>The Order specifically carries instruction that it was ‘important to leave a few survivors who would report the supposed German terror attacks’.
Why was this order given several months after the German atrocities had already started and were well known throughout the Soviet Union?

>Elem Klimov was born in Stalingrad (now Volgograd) into a Russian family of German Stepanovich Klimov, an investigator who worked at the Central Control Commission of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union
>His parents were staunch communists and his first name was an acronym derived from the names of Engels, Lenin and Marx.[1][2]

>In fact the German policy was precisely the opposite to that of Britain and America’s ally. The function of the Reich’s Ostacker Program (Eastern Fields Program) was to restore the lands and return rural property to the peoples of the regions occupied by the German forces
>to the peoples of the regions

why the fuck would the germans leave their promised lebensraum to a bunch of slav untermenschen they wanted to genocide you retard?
read a real history book not your wehrboo fairy tales

you can start with this

So what do the exotic animals represent? Wasn't there some kind a flamingo or something in the forest? Then the little monkey thing the nazi general had?

Dude you're embarrassing yourself with your barely surface-level wikipedia knowledge. Klimov literally fought against the Soviet Union at all times and his films were repeatedly censored and banned.
Had also fought to release all the previously banned or censored films by the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, literally saved hundreds of previously banned by the government Soviet films.
kinoeye.org/04/04/woll04.php

>Then the little monkey thing the nazi general had?
Dirlewanger was weird like that

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>to a bunch of slav untermenschen they wanted to genocide you retard
You've been reading the "right" books, all right. That's why you don't have a clear understand of what happened.
Too bad there are actual proves that this happened:
>The news magazine Der Spiegel (6/2000) quotes an example of the partisan Sonja Kosmodemjanskaja, who came to be honoured (by force), even in the "young pioneer" movement of the DDR, for her part of setting aflame the village Petrischtschewo near Moscow together with other mercenaries who followed the Stalin order.

The fact that his parents were devoted communists and that Official Russian government soruces have released and confirmed the authenticity of Stalin Order 0428, should be obvious that this movie was Russian propaganda.

>look up quote
>only source is stormfront

>be young Hitler
>vegan
>meet Latgalian dude
"LOL, vegans R fags!"
>20 years later

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So only jewish sources are valid?

Then why was it fought against it being released for 8 years straight? Why did the Soviet Union demand for Klimov to change half of the film for those 8 years and him not changing a single thing? Why didn't they just release and spread it around? Why was it popular everywhere except the Soviet Union when it was finally realeased? Why did this happen for half of Klimov's films?

You're an absolutely ignorant fortnite mental midget

>every source containing information I disagree with is jewish
yiff is hell schizo

>Hitler was right about the need to exterminate Slavs and Jews but he totally didn't try to do either of those things!

proofs what exactly? you copy paste dumb shit from stormfront with tertiary sources that no real historian would take seriously. At least post the original quotes, not your dumb interpretation

everything that's not coming from white aryan intellectuals from stormfront and doesn't agree with my worldview is jewish

grow up

At the time the Soviet leader was Mikhail Gorbachev and he was trying to start a reform in the political establishment and strengthen his relations with Western Germany. An obvious NKVD style movie wasn't going to help.
Did you actually watch the movie? Its so cartoonish that its almost hilarious how some people think it has any validity.

>things that factually disprove my hivemind are BAD
And people wonder why the nazis burned books?

kek

>not every race has a right to exist?

Was he wrong?

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I didn't even take it from stormfront, it's from "forum.codoh.com". A revisionist forum. In the quote you have the date in which that article was written: Der Spiegel (6/2000). If you did a quick search you'd have gotten the source:

>[...] jetzt veröffentlichte das Zentralarchiv des russischen Sicherheitsdienstes FSB offiziell den Befehl Stalins Nr. 0428 vom 17. November 1941, der massenhafte Partisanentätigkeit anordnete: Um den deutschen Soldaten vor Moskau jede Möglichkeit einer Unterkunft zu nehmen, sollten „Jagdkommandos" im Rücken des Feindes 40 bis 60 Kilometer tief und auf beiden Seiten aller Straßen in einem jeweils 20 bis 30 Kilometer breiten Streifen verbrannte Erde schaffen. [...] Wie der Befehl umgesetzt wurde, geht aus weiteren FSB-Veröffentlichungen hervor, die neue Details, etwa über die Nationalheldin Sonja Kosmodemjanskaja, 18, enthalten. [...].« (Der Spiegel, Nr. 6, 7.2.2000, S. 239)

But I guess its too much hard work for you jews.

I’ll never understand this idea to repair the reputation of any faction in the ostfront.
The Germans were objectively horrible to the eastern countries they invaded, and the Russians were objectively horrible right back when they invaded Germany. Why is this such a controversial thing? Its not like any of you are German, or Russian.

You're spitting absolute bullshit. Gorbachev was the leader in the 90s, this films was released in 1985. Also he had nothing to do with cinema censorship.
>Its so cartoonish that its almost hilarious how some people think it has any validity
Tell me which part do you think didn't happen. The film is even tame when you take all Dirlewanger acts in consideration.

>The Germans were objectively horrible to the eastern countries they invaded
Can you actually prove that without using communist propaganda that has been exposed when their national archives were opened?
I can actually prove that the German Army severly punished their soldiers if they raped or pillaged the cvilians in occupied territories during their Eastern campagin.

>I can actually prove that the German Army severly punished their soldiers if they raped or pillaged the cvilians in occupied territories during their Eastern campagin.
Why didn't they punish Dirlewanger?

>Gorbachev was the leader in the 90s
How can I take you seriously when you have absolutey no historical knowledge? No wonder you fall so easily for propaganda.
>In 1974 he moved to Moscow to become First Secretary to the Supreme Soviet and in 1979 became a candidate member of the party's governing Politburo. Within three years of the death of Soviet leader Leonid Brezhnev, following the brief regimes of Yuri Andropov and Konstantin Chernenko, the Politburo elected Gorbachev as General Secretary, the de facto head of government, in 1985.

Where is the propaganda part?

Because
>criticize the Germans
>muh white race, muh jewish propaganda!

>criticize the Russians
>"but the Germans were way worse!'

>I can actually prove that the German Army severly punished their soldiers if they raped or pillaged the cvilians in occupied territories during their Eastern campagin.
lmao

>a literal wehrboo forum
>credible history sources

did the liberators fuck your grandma so hard that your ass still hurts ?

what does this quote proof actually? that partisans waged a guerilla war in the rear. because that what is says. nothing about killing civilians. the resistance did this literally everywhere across europe

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Klimov started filming without restrictions in 1984. Fact.

DUDE LOOK INTO THE CAMERA AND ACT EMOTIONAL LMAO: the movie

Dirlewanger and his Einsatzgruppe were ordered to supress partisan activities behind enemy lines. Most of the so called "atrocities" committed by him were "documented" by Rhodes who relied heavily on 'survivor' eyewitness accounts.
MacLean demonstrates that such units actually were much more disciplined and severely punished men for even minor infractions.

Of related interest is the issue of actual Einsatzgruppen after-action reports transmitted from the field to headquarters in Berlin. Many of these reports claimed whole regions to be 'cleansed' of Jews, i.e. which had become 'Judenfrei' (Jew-free) thanks to Einsatzgruppen actions. But a little known postwar trial, that of German Field Marshal Erich von Manstein, belied the accuracy of said reports. The Soviets were angry at von Manstein because of his many victories over the Red Army during the war and wanted him executed. They tried to claim that huge numbers of Jews were murdered in the rear areas by Einsatzgruppen under his overall command and that he was thus responsible. However, his British lawyer R. T. Paget demonstrated that whole areas supposedly cleared of Jews contained many flourishing Jewish communities that were actually fully functional and untouched throughout the entire war. Clearly the reports in this one area at least, were false or at least greatly exaggerated. The court looked closely at this and accepted the unreliability factor of Einsatzgruppen reports and von Manstein was acquitted.

>the world consists of nazi TRUTHs™ and jewish communist lies

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Typical jewish goal-posting moving. I can tell you're a jew.
You asked for the source and I gave you the direct quote from Der Spiegel. You can go to their archive and find it, the article is:
Der Spiegel, Nr. 6, 7.2.2000, S. 239

It proves that Russians did infact carry falseflag operations and killed their own citizens and burned their own villages while wearing german uniforms. Just like what happens in the movie.

Who writes history? The winners or the losers? Are you aware that holocaust denial is punished by law? People have gone in jail for taking samles from alleged "gas chambers" and testing if there was any trace of Zyclon B.
Real historians have gone in jail or punished with fines for publishing real documents that went against jewish narrative.

>Nazis
>Evil
Pick one

Imagine being a wehraboo

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if this is what you get from it I'm sorry for you

>when the kid happily goes home and, on the verge of madness, realizes his whole family got died
>dat absolutely soul wrecking 8 minute or so following the kid with shell shock
>the documentary-tier portrayal of human misery and war
>dat failed operation with that fucking cow

It's a 10/10 movie that, as OP is finding out, scars you for life, just like WW2 scarred Europe.

>MacLean demonstrates that such units actually were much more disciplined
Ukrainian drunk criminals were disciplined? Man I really believe that.
Have you even seen the film, admit it. Did you really? Why do you talk about Einsatzgruppen when most of the people who did those deeds in Belarus were Ukrainian and the Ukrainian Hilsfpolizei, the Schutzmannschaft Battalion 118?
Do you know a single thing about the Khatyn massacre? Why were people with surnames like Vasiura, Smowski, and Meleshko on trial because of it, not some Schmidt or Hanz?

You talk as if the entire Eastern front is just German Soldiers against Russian soldiers, which is why I suspect you being a junile middle school fortnite mental midget.

>Are you aware that holocaust denial is punished by law?
Yes, and I agree with it. You people are mentally ill, prepared to immiserate a whole continent and exterminate millions of innocents again. You are advocating for and whitewashing crimes against humanity. You abso fucking lutely deserve a little cool down period in jail.

>he thinks death camps were real
lmao

You asked me about Dirlewanger, not some Ukrainian units acting on their own accord to take revange on people who were supressing them during the famine.
I've watched the movie, obviously. And there is a scene where the Germans are burning the village and a high official is sitting in his car with some kind of pet and watching it burn and laughing about it, while everywhere else the germans are raping the poor villagers. Tell me how this isn't a cartoonish representation of bad guys in cinema?
I know about Khatyn and I know it was the NKVD that did it and guess who they blamed? The germans.
The Eastern front WAS German soldiers against Russians, but the germans had actually other units from other nations that served with them: Croatia, Hungary, Italy, Ukraine, Romania etc.

You can tell this person is American because they see Wikipedia as the fountain of all knowledge.

>Are you aware that holocaust denial is punished by law?
>in some place my opinion would be censored, therefore my opinion is correct
It is also illegal to deny Communist war crimes in some places - did they not actually happen? And Holocaust denial is allowed in the United States, United Kingdom, Spain, Norway, Italy, Ireland, Finland, Croatia, Sweden, Ukraine etc. why hasn't the Holocaust been disproven in any of these countries if the only thing stopping Jews from being "exposed" is censorship?

Not even hiding your hate for the goyim anymore, Rabbi?

Go and try to deny the holocaust in any of those nations and see what happens. There are examples of people doing that and having their careers or lives ruined. And if you still believe in the Holocaust, you're either complicit in the jewish lie, or too stupid to look at the real evidence.

It's been disproven time and time again. No one who has actually looked at the evidence believes in death camps and systematic extermination.

>people I have to dislike because of my hivemind are disorderly and drunk, my opponents are "junile middle school fortnite mental midget"
>people I identify with are the best of humanity

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OP and the tankies btfo

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>jews and gypsies
>human
eh gonna say no, but go ahead and send me to prison with my aryan brothers to radicalize me further, get some sweet prison tats while I'm there, come out and glass some paki fuck in his filthy brown skull my first day

>You asked me about Dirlewanger, not some Ukrainian units
The Ukrainian units (more like volunteers) were directly under Dirlewangers order you absolute dumb fuck. You can check this fact with the simplest of google searches.
>And there is a scene where the Germans are burning the village and a high official is sitting in his car with some kind of pet and watching it burn and laughing about it, while everywhere else the germans are raping the poor villagers. Tell me how this isn't a cartoonish representation of bad guys in cinema?
THEY ARE ALMOST ALL UKRAINIANS YOU LITERAL RETARD
You clearly just watched some youtube parts or read wiki plot pints, because if you actually saw the film you would remember the under the bridge scene with them being Ukrainians, And it's a literal fact that Dirlewanger had a monkey with him >and guess who they blamed? The germans
No they didn't you retard, I literally gave you the names of people that were on trial. Vasiura, Smowski, and Meleshko, not some Schmidt or Hanz.

Everything you spouted so far is bullshit

>mfw the 2017 digital restoration that STILL hasn't been released on home video yet is getting a one-off theatrical screening near me next week

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Even Ukrainians acknowledge that their volunteers for the Dirlewanger brigade were not sane normal civilians.
I don't identify with any of the sides. I don't think any of the sides are the best for humanity, even the film shows both doing wrong deeds. Partisans even rape and kill that female officer in the woods.

>>jews and gypsies
and communists, liberals, gays, people with disabilities and/or certain religions, those critical of the regime, and
It's fucking hilarious actually how many white people's death was caused by the Führer, either in his concentration camps, or under his inane expansion plans.

>Typical jewish goal-posting moving. I can tell you're a jew.
i'm unironically whiter than you, you slavic mutt

so i read the whole article and as it turns out your full of shit. the article is about that there is now proof that there was partisans activity before 1941 and doesn't mention any murdered civilians. russians just did what they did in the past when napoleon was here. here's a accurate translations by google and the link of the article
spiegel.de/spiegel/print/d-15613891.html

but it proves that krauts commited warcrimes when they hanged her without a trial

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>It's fucking hilarious actually how many white people's death was caused by the Führer, either in his concentration camps, or under his inane expansion plans.
Hiter p. much wanted to exterminate every ethnic group other than the "aryans." Their allies in the war (Hungary, Italy, Japan) were basically tolerated as subhumans.

It's also fucking hilarious how the typical nazi would be purged by Hitler because pic related.

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Both the Russian and Polish officials have recognized that the Khatyn massacres were ordered by Stalin and executed by NKVD soldiers. They victims were Polish intelligentia and Army officers. The Communists do this in every country they occupy(see Jugoslavia, Latvia) to replace their intelligentia with communists leaders, as to more easily control the population. I don't know how you can even defend the Khatyn massacre when ex-Soviet officials have come out and admitted they did it.

best kino ever made

>be right winger
>make up lies
>circulate lies made up by other right wingers
repeat

Stalin, in a Radio announcement from 3rd June 1941, had called on all peoples of the Soviet Union to wage a merciless partisan war against Germany. So there is actual prove of Stalin encouraging for partisan activity.
The article confirms that Russian paristans attacked and killed their own civilians while wearing German uniforms. That was my point.

Nice jewish fanficiton, or should I say, projection? Because the jewish actually believe they are racially superior to goyim, who they refer as animal and cattle. This is written in their religious books.

The polish officials in 2009 were talking about twenty to thirty bodies in the basement of the cathedral in Hlybokae that were killed by NKVD, not about all the belurassian villages that had countless of churches with bodies like that.
Read anything about the Vasiura trials

Damn germans must have been really butthurt about getting btfo in grunwald by poland and lithuania even 500 years later

>latvians 50%
What? There was even a latvian legion of 100 thousand or so men

show me where in the article is written:
attacked and killed their own civilians while wearing German uniforms.

here's the detailed report which also doesn't mention any killed civilians, just structural damage to german occupied buildings.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoya_Kosmodemyanskaya

In November 27, 1941 Zoya received an assignment to burn the village of Petrischevo, where a German cavalry regiment was stationed.

In Petrischevo, Zoya managed to set fire to horse stables and a couple of houses. On November 27 at 2 o'clock in the morning Boris Krainov, Vasily Klubkov and Zoya Kosmodemyanskaya set fire to three houses in Petrishchev (residents of Karelova, Solntseva and Smirnov).[9] At the interrogation Zoya also stated that she managed to destroy 20 horses for the transportation of cargo by the Nazis in the farm buildings of the burnt yards. Smirnova A. V. confirmed this fact with her testimony [6]. Zoya's friend at the sabotage school of Claudia Miloradova claims that one of the homes burned by Zoya was used as a German communications center. [24] The house of the Voronin family in the village was actually used as a headquarters for the officers of the troops to be moved, but was not burned. The writer A. Zhovtis calls into question these versions, citing the fact that officially Petrishchevo was not a point of permanent deployment of German troops.[9] However, his words are denied by the villagers themselves, indicating that virtually all the houses of the village were used for sleeping by the German troops transported along the main roads near the village.

>indicating that virtually all the houses of the village were used for sleeping by the German troops transported along the main roads near the village.

also the perpetrator was a woman. why would a woman wear a wehrmacht uniform in the first place you retard?

Why are you blatantly lying?
google.com/amp/s/nseuropa.wordpress.com/2013/12/09/fackelmannerbefehl-torch-men-order/amp/

You are only citing quotes from the defendant themselves. The article which you quoted states:
>Ten days after the Stalin order, the partisan set fire to the village along with two comrades.
Which proves that Stalin's order was real and it was carried on by all partisans.
As to why you're not finding anything regarding Partisans dressing up as Germans. Note that there was a lot of meddling around this document:
>n 2000, the Institute für Zeitgeschichte published an article, written by Christian Hartmann/Jürgen Zarusky in which they claim that “Series 429, Rolle 461” does not exist, it is instead “T-78, Roll 461” and it contains nothing about a Fackelmänner Befehl(Stalin's torch order).
But someone else who looked into it, Dr. Seidler, said that there is actual prove and its there.

Hartmann/Zarusky did the German translation of Stavka 0428, it exists, minus the uniform part, according to ((them)).

are you retarded
again
show me where in the article is written:
attacked and killed their own civilians while wearing German uniforms.

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They set a Russian village on fire, that had Russian villagers living there. Go read Stalin's order 0428. You should be able to put 2 and 2 together.

There are alternative sources to both the ADL and Stormfront, as it turns out.

Who was this actor? One of the best performances I've ever seen in a film, and far more terrifying than the standard moustache-twirling Nazis you see in Hollywood.

>I can actually prove that the German Army severly punished their soldiers if they raped or pillaged the cvilians in occupied territories during their Eastern campagin.
Great, essentially the same claim that's made regarding Stalin ordering rapists put to death during the invasion of Germany.

I didn't like it while watching it nor afterward. It has some visually compelling moments but the script in general is shit. I snoozed through this film, occasionally awakened by some Belarus peasant being immolated. 3/10

stop dodging the question schizo

were in the article, that you cited and said is proof that partisans murdered their own civilians, can i find the following
attacked and killed their own civilians while wearing German uniforms.

i'm still waiting

except stalin really did that

Not even that guy but just a quick look at your wiki page and i found this
>The article alleged that there were no German troops in the village of Petrischevo, (in spite of several photos of her being hanged by German soldiers)
There were photos of her being hanged in the petrischevo village supposedly by germans despite her herself saying that there were no german troops in the village

Ilya Ehrenburg, Soviet propaganda leader and jew:
>”Use force and break the racial pride of these German women. Take them as your lawful booty“

>There were photos of her being hanged in the petrischevo village supposedly by germans despite her herself saying that there were no german troops in the village

then who was germans?

Its almost like the partisans dressed up as germans just like Stalins order said.

>Wasn't there some kind a flamingo or something in the forest?
Jesus Christ

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ITT: two discord zoomers copy pasting Google page 1 articles at each other

Oh sorry, I meant to say that the only source is stormfront AND some other neo-nazi website with swastikas on the front page and so totally isn't biased or impartial at all.

Theres source linked in the artical
de.metapedia.org/wiki/Fackelmännerbefehl
Use google translate if you need

This. Ah people need to go outside. I saw a crane in the park the other day. It was a very dark morning and a light rain was falling. The crane walked slowly across an empty baseball field. Objectively there was nothing special about this sight, but all the elements gave me a wonderful feeling. Like a sad peace with God. How do people even appreciate art without memories to compare it with?

MIRRORS ARE MORE FUN THAN TELEVISION

>Metapedia
>"This encyclopedia also wants to contribute to preserve the German heritage and also to protect the German language...We also offer critical content and depictions on dissident themes: sovereignty, alienation, NWO criticism, populism, war guilt lie, 9/11 research, Judaism, ZOG."
Why are the only places you can find this """""source""""" on white nationalist, neo-nazi, Teutophile blogs and websites? Really makes you think.

Jude.

poles kill ukrainians = hurr it was NKVD in polish uniform
germans kill russians - hurr it was NKVD in wehrmacht uniform
ukrainians kill poes - hurr in was NKVD in UPA uniform

Well it's nice to see that no one in the region dindu nothing, they were all good bois. Fuck those soviet batmen though.

'There was a time', Ehrenburg retorted in Krasnaya Zvezda, 'when Germans used to fake important documents of the state. Now they have fallen so low as to fake my articles.'

>Real historians have gone in jail or punished
What historians? There is not a single Ph.D. historian in the denier community. Faurisson was a professor of literature, Zündel was a photo-retoucher by trade, Butz is a professor of electrical engineering, Stäglich is a judge, O'Keefe is a Harvard dropout, and Cole is a high-school dropout. Raven is a former writer for stand-up comics and automotive magazines.

Irving is a journalist and historical writer, and Weber has a Master's degree in history. They are as close as any "revisionist" comes to being a historian.

Disprove it.

>No one who has actually looked at the evidence believes in death camps and systematic extermination.
I do but then again I've actually looked at the evidence rather than spout memes I saw from /pol/

>7 hours up

Cmon Chaim, isn't it bedtime yet?

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>meat shield legion
>"DUDE THEY LIKED THEM"

That's what I thought