Based Yoda, TLJ hater btfo

Neet here, TLJ was kino

Just who exactly is the audience?

>Chekhov's Gun is bullshit

no, no no no no.... look, I don't even care about star wars, Just from an audience perspective about anything, he is wrong. If there is no purpose to a bread trail, you do not leave one. You show the audience what they need to go on the journey that is the story. You don't show them a gun hanging on the wall if it has no purpose. Attention to detail and direction matters. If your story has constant turns, then by the end the audience should not trust anything in your story. Now you have a nice weak bread trail that they follow cautiously, not hungrily at all. Frank Oz is fucking wrong.

The other people who bought 1.4 billion dollars worth of tickets, saw the movie and went back to their lifes.
Get lost

Based, atleast not every neet is lost

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Just because they saw the movie doesn't mean they liked it.

kys Star Wars bitch

>kill Star Wars
Roger Roger.

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By default hollywood actors almost always ass kiss to keep their jew overlords happy. It's why Mark Hamill stands out so much when talking about his experiences.

TLJ will be recognized as a postmodern masterpiece in the years to come.

You can't judge how much people liked the movie by how much it made. Since none of those people would have known what the movie was like before they paid for it. Spoilers are actively avoided everywhere but here.
People who hated the movie can't take their money back, but they won't bother paying for future movies. And considering what happened to Solo, it's safe to assume a lot of people have gone off of Star Wars.

tl;dr: Jumanji is gonna destroy it

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So why would they acuse me if beign an incel if as a costumer im not obliged in liking or buying their product?

Frank Oz is a piece of shit Hollywood. People love Yod not because of him, only because of George. After watching TLJ there is no doubt bout it. This fucker told George he was too old for this shit when he called him for the prequels, but when Disney called him ten years later, he jumped in without complaining. Also this fucker complained that George asked him to come back dubbing Yoda for ESB right after his honeymoon. I feel like Oz was never appreciative of George but is ready to suck the mouse dick anytime.

SOLO
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you're not the audience, you're the haters
pandering to unsatisfiable whiny manbabies who will bitch no matter what is pointless and against their best interests

No one should ever take Fozzie Bear seriously.

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>pandering to traditional Star Wars fans is pointless
>pandering to women who don't buy comic books, video games, action figures, lego shit, etc is a good idea

What if I saw it in theaters, and didn't like it?

Yikes!
That’s gonna be a cringe from me dawg

Based FRANK OZ taking out the star wars plebs who like marvel movies and showing them what actual cinema means

Rian Johnson and OZ are patricians

>expect a good film
>get a bad film
The Force Awakens and Rogue One? Two movies Star Wars plebs loved?

Fuck off and kys already TLJ was great

FUCKING MANCHILD

>muh TLJ hater are red*t scum
yeah back to your shithole pleb

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Ya seething slapdick?

>red*tor still replying to me even after getting exposed as a pleb red*tor

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You don’t belong here, yen sid shill

He's right though
Where do you think you are
This board has been reddit for years you fucking mong

TLJ was good
TFA ROGUE ONE and SOLO were dogshit

Yeah, ya boiling, lel

Reminder that everyone pretending to like TLJ is a BASED anti-shill keeping Disney hate alive until Episode 9 drops

If you are a filmmaker who is making commercially viable movies like Star Wars, you are exactly trying to fulfill peoples expectations. If you don't want to do that, you do small budget indie movies.

COPE
Who do you think Rian kinomaker Johnson is?

Get fucked nigger

You know expectations are low when more people want to see Sonic the fucking Hedgehog over Episode IX.

>person who worked on the movie: we made a great movie!
If you say so chum.

>kino
Stop trying to use the hip lingo, shill. You glow in the fucking dark

I am legit worried for you. Seek help.

Dude you have shit taste in women and movies
You don't have a single idea what kino actually is
Have sex

this cope

>literally coping
kys pleb

As a filmmaker making your own movie you do whatever you want and the audience will tell youif you fucked up. But when you're literal who like Rian and gets to direct an episode of 40 years old iconic franchise, you can't do whatever you want, you have to respect nd understan the material otherwise you should not direct.

Rian getting his own trilogy is like the best thing that could happen for us "not quite as enthusiastic as we once were"-star wars fans.

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>Hopefully you won't be by the time IX comes out
I'm thinking about half of the people who watched TLJ won't

the director of The Stepford Wives remake is WRONG about something?!?! How can this be????

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worst troll thread in weeks

Star Wars has always been, and always will be, shit.

Most overrated franchise of all time. Old movies have aged terribly and the new movies are awkward as fuck. They've always been written terribly, with awful dialogue and schizophtenic tier pacing.

In short, if you like Star Wars at all, you are no bettee than those guys who dress up in wizarding robes to watch the latest installment of Harry Potter.

>But it's pretty hypocritical for them to then say that audiences are obligated to pay for it

But they never said that, the immigrant plebbitors say that.

LF has only said it won't tolerate the harassment of its actors.

The Last Jedi sucked. It's not even a competently made film, let alone a good Star Wars film. I don't give a fuck how many "critics" or Hollywood Jews tell me it was awesome. It was fucking terrible and it not only killed my interest in Star Wars, it probably killed the whole damn franchise.

it's a star wars movie

not a film.

>If you don't like my movie you're horse crap
Oh well that will sure turn me around.

Star Wars is from a time where science fiction was under represented. High production values and wide popularity escalated the series beyond any real acclaim it might have possessed. The sci-fi themes are largely irrelevant now due to the sheer amount of content available, but old nerds didn't have much else to cling to back in the day.

I won't say the new movies are good but I think it's important to remember where Star Wars comes from and what it (formerly sneed) represented.

Oz needs to have Sex

I guess expecting a good movie is too much to ask from some filmmakers.

Too right it is. Also don't criticise them if you think the movie is bad.Pay to see it and keep your mouth shut.

>when it dawns on you that you wasted a perfect career because you started sucking too much nerd dick at conventions while everybody was making bank

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Well to be fair he did complain about having to do Yoda in TLJ hence why he prefers CG Yoda over the puppet.

Watching the unfolding train wreck he’ll make will be glorious if it happens. The fact they already announced it as a trilogy means they won’t be able to back out halfway when it nosedives, since they risk losing face.
I know it’s almost certainly not happening, and that they’ll can it quietly once they don’t need to worry about negative press prior to 9, but I really hope it does.

>Also don't criticise them if you think the movie is bad.Pay to see it and keep your mouth shut.
what the fuck is this shit?

Nu Hollywood's expectations of the viewer.

>FUCK WOMEN FUCK FUCK FUCK NIGGERS TOO
DIDNEY I WANT YOU TO REMOVE REY RIGHT NAAAOOOOO

>no

>REEEEEEE WHY DO U OPPRESS ME LIKE THIS WHEN I GIVE YOU MY MOM'S HARD EARNED MONEY

the average assblasted pol-cuck after TLJ.

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Ar u haveng stroke, fren?

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Imagine for a moment that writing a post like this is your life. And you do it because you’re either too emotionally attached to a children’s film or you are lol trolling.

Either way you’ve accomplished nothing with your life.

>ME LIKEY MOOBIE BECAUSE ME GET TO BE FUNNY GREEN PUPPET MAN AGAIN EHEHEH

>They're STILL shitting on people who disliked the movie even now
How has Disney not stepped in and told everybody who worked on this movie to just shut up yet? They have to know what a negative effect it's having on their PR, right?

So films are not made to be seen then?

We expected a good and entertaining movie, they didn't deliver, mission accomplished

He would be right if he was making art and not commercial, low common denominator garbage like Star Wars.

Cassavetes used to say the same thing.

This.
The last Jedi is even more childish than the prequels because it indulges in a pathetic masquerade. The “subversions” don’t make it at all artistic, because rather than being rooted in clever filmmaking, they’re just anemic gotchas.

'not out to fulfill expectations'

That's a joke right? Every single joke and sequence is catered to the quip loving marvel fan or casual audience member. I enjoyed it superficially because of it. It was entirely focused on satisfying demands just not dedicated starwars fans' demands.

This is all of Yea Forums though

>too retarded to understand pokemon and sonic have stronger fanbases

Rian "shaking things up" was the equivalent of violently rattling an empty bird cage to wake it up. It wasn't needed and all it did was cause a lot of noise and hurt the bird.

No, not really. Anyone who liked the OT and even PT at least doesn't 100% agree with the direction of the ST. They're garbage movies and you should considering suicide for defending these literal piles of shit.

seriously though why is the establishment so defensive of The Last Jedi? I don't remember them caring when people shit on the prequels

Lucas literally told fans to grow up. We had FILMS made about how bad the prequels were, user. William's was booed by fans for playing prequel music

But it's already recognized as shit.

Force Awakens, Rogue One, and especially TLJ were all terrible Star Wars films and overall terrible films in general.

yeah, that's my point, I don't remember hollywood defending the prequels even though they were also hated

>we're not here to make our customers happy

lmfao and that's why Solo flopped horridly and EP 9 is gonna do the same bravo you idiots. Let your lack of humility be your downfall.

Oz made faggot Ernie and Bert, hope his kids get bit by a car

I hope you contract a painful and fatal STD you sex-obsessed freak.

That's because Star Wars before the buyout were independently produced movies. Hollywood hates indie filmmakers.

Now that Disney owns them, they're part of the fold.

ah, another person who doesn't know what literally means. it literally means a lot to me to know that other people like you literally exist.

>Well well well, looks like you slipped up here friend. The films are't 'literally' pieces of fecal matter. Here's hoping you won't make 'literally' the same mistake in the future!

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Because they’re aware it could cost them billions in long term profit, since any move to repair it goes against Disney’s current strategy of appearing invincible.
Attempting to bludgeon people into acceptance is their only recourse.

>get caught being a dumbass
>instead of smartening up i'll just wile out like a sperg
literally still happy

Literally incapable of grasping hyperbole.
The absolute state.

why use a word wrong for dramatic effect? use the correct words for dramatic effect

lmgtfy.com/?q=Definition of hyperbole
Here you go, friend. Don’t worry, English isn’t everyone’s first language, so there’s no shame in not knowing.

Media can’t hate anything produced by Disney.

Who?

It's kinda cute seeing newfags trying so hard to do "the contrarian thing those 4channers do".

Because Lucas Films was bought by Disney. They even have their "influencers" posting at Yea Forums to create a narrative and it will eventually lead to a falseflag that will shutdown Yea Forums by the end of 2019.

>say this unironically
>cry when filmmakers call you out on it

found the faggot

>40-year old movie franchise and media brand
>"gee why expectations lol"

these people want to be inescapably stupid

YODA REDPILLS:

Frank Oz was FIRED from The Muppets. Disney went with Jason Segel instead, Oz had been trying to get a new Muppet movie approved for years before Segel's.

Why is there SOUND in SPACE? George did it on purpose because he knew the audience would expect it. Expectations MET = Box Office Goldmine!

A filmmaker might not have to meet audience expectations, BUT if you title your film Episode 8, then you are obligated to fulfill obligations set up in Episode 7. Chapters, How Do They Work?

Cause Lucas wasn't willing to waste money on PR bullshit.
That's why the prequels were never nominated for stuff like Costume design or even Williams for the music. Cause Lucas wasn't gonna waste money on bullshit politics. Now that Disney shells out for it Williams gets nominated for recycled garbage.

>Expect a good Star Wars film
>Rian subverts my expectations
Bravo SW Team.

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FFS WHO CARES? Star Wars is SHIT. It’s a children’s franchise. The movies have NEVER been good. Empire Strikes Back is literally the only decent Star Wars movie and that’s because they made it interesting by dumping on all the heroes and giving it a big cliff hanger. Every other Star Wars movie is boring horse shit.

I've been here since 2013/2014 which is not a newfag at all by todays standards you filthy zoomer

FFS WHO CARES? Star Wars is SHIT. It’s a children’s franchise. The movies have NEVER been good. The Last Jedi is literally the only decent Star Wars movie and that’s because they made it interesting by dumping on all the heroes and giving it a big cliff hanger. Every other Star Wars movie is boring horse shit.

Reminder

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What is false equivalence, Alex

>Oz
Who?

Damn this one article proves that every single person on Earth hated ESB on release.

I have no idea how people can actually show these articles to prove a point, as if ESB was released so long ago that no one remembers it.

Some wizard dude.

>Reminder
That a critic doesn't understand the meaning of the word "immolated" and doesn't know what a camel looks like?

While ESB stood the test of time, do you REALLY think Captain Marvel will? When's the last time you sat down to revisit Ghostbusters 2016, or Green Lantern?

>Pokemon and Sonic have stronger fanbases
>than fucking Star Wars
You big idiot.

Not the same user but Pokemon definitely has a stronger fanbase, you dumb retard.