/nlg/ - Neverland General: Real Spabook Hours Edition

>LEAVE MICHAEL ALONE!

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Reminder that MJ didn't worship Satan and they did everything they could to ruin his career.

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If there were no shots of the ring, you guys would be screaming WHERE'S THE RING?! WHY IS THERE NO RING?! And then they show you the ring-hell we even have the cctv of them going ring shopping at the time and place the guy said they did-and you try to shoot it down because THEY SHOT THAT SCENE AFTER THE OTHER ONES, as if that has any bearing on anything, or WHERE'S EVERYTHING ELSE FROM THE STORY?, as if you would ever be satisfied.

It was 30 years ago. Considering that, I'd say our evidence is actually strong to be completely fabricated like you claim.

Reminder that Michael Jackson was a pedophile and broke the law but did nothing wrong.

Miss me with that #BelieveAllVictims MeToo crap

How many rich, straight men let random children sleep in their beds.

He porked dem kids, he porked em good.

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>dem kids

It's keeeds

If MJ was innocent and not a pedo, how do YOU explain his lifestyle?

I don't believe Mike abused kids.

feel like shit, lads

Easy, he wanted to re-live a childhood he never had.

>abused by his psychotic dad
>ignored by his retarded brothers
>sensitive beyond belief
He was a kid himsefl and publicly said he wan't to be Peter Pan.
Considering he was accused, provably falsely, all his life, why the fuck would he double down and actually commit the crime the whole world is eyeing him already for?

So doesn’t this mean Wade and James are guilty of perjury?

I don't have to. The judicial system acquitted the man so he is already innocent. It is up to you to prove he isn't.
Protip: two men crying and saying something isn't evidence.

>why the fuck would he double down
"Double down" is exactly what he did do. Why the fuck wouldn't he have the sense not to end up in the same predicament twice?

Literally self confessed perjurers like
user points out.
>B-BUT T-THEY'RE C-C-CRYING

>I don't have to.
Saw that coming. Because you can't explain it without sounding like a pedo yourself.

Why are people still debating whether MJ was a kid diddler or not? Even if they find 100% indisputable proof, what are they going to do? Dig up his bones and put them on trial?

Because that'd be retarded?
Because he had kids of his own?
Because he was already a freak looking mess and didn't need any more pressure from society?

Sure thing user. So where's your evidence?

Yeah, nice reading comprehension...let me try again: Why wouldn't he stop having sleepovers with little boys after doing so nearly sent him to prison? Starts to seem like a compulsion...

did you kiss your friends on the lips?

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>...
Bonjour reddité.

>>two witnesses are self confessed perjurers
If they're perjurers then MJ is guilty.

>#listenandbelieve
You got any evidence there bud?

And how does the porn and drugs factor into that?

Did Mike?
I don't believe self declared liers.

>we should believe men who lie under oath because it suits my narrative
lol no

All you'll get is "lol vids or it didn't happen" tier responses. MJ drones actually don't think circumstantial evidence is real, they watched too much CSI

Surprised the idiots don't realize this yet.

Yikes what a boring ass childhood you must have had.

The evidence is either fake or too circumstantial.
Where was all this (((evidence))) when trials were going on?

If they lied then MJ is guilty. They said he didn't do it.

From watching the documentary, it seems like Wade and James just couldn’t live with the lies anymore. Maybe they want to try to prevent stuff like this from happening again.

>they only lie when I disagree with them
lol keep listening and believing m8. I was bummed by Stone Cold Steve Austin at a RAW in 1999 watch my documentary coming out on Netflix and believe all victims.

What the fuck are you talking about?
He had entire families stay with him all the time.
Did you see his bedroom? It's a damn cottage.
Not to mention if he had molested any of those kids, at least ONE of them would have ended up a mess like Corey Feldman, who himself said Mike never did this foul shit that the kikes are trying to bury his corpse in even after all these years.

>men who lie under oath only lie when it suits my narrative
lol

I don't think you understand that "Robson and Safechuck are perjurers" and "Michael Jackson is innocent" are mutually exclusive. You cannot have both.

kek, it's from the 93 trial. they were defending mj . not testifying against him. are you saying they were lying there too?

>LOL FUCK THE JUDICIAL SYSTEM LMAO

>LOL I KNOW MORE THAN THE FBI AND POLICE THAT SPENT YEARS ON THESE INVESTIGATIONS LMAO

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>by pure coincidence wade can't live with the lies after being turned down for a high paying job by the jackson estate

they've given conflicting accounts while under oath, that means one of them is perjury, it doesn't mean the first instance was

So let me get this straight. They defend him them, remained friends and now that he's dead they pull a 180?
Either they're lying now for some media shekels or Mike's a really good fuck worth to lie for in court.

>men who lie can only do it once in their life
Imagine being this retarded.

What's his name again?

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You know full well that whenever MJ defenders hurl accusations of perjury at Robson and Safechuck it is always in reference to their 1990s testimonies when they denied abuse. If that's perjury MJ is guilty.

>Maybe they want to try to prevent stuff like this from happening again.
Yeah. Considering Hollywood is ripe with pedo faggot satanists, the best way to do that is to go after a dead man who they stayed with for years.
I guess the trauma only kicked in now since their careers and money problems started to emerge in recent times.

safechuck refused to defend him in the 2005 trial

>men who lie when lying is a criminal offence would never lie again
lol

Michael's lawyers were very good and blocked the worst of the evidence, including the dick pics. He also leaned on the past kids, either with threats, bribes, or emotional manipulation to get them to help him, and even tried to force the Arvisos to leave the country before the mom finally had enough and turned on him. Jackson's assistant admitted to booking the flight to Brazil that the mom talked about.

>lie again
What the fuck are you even talking about? I don't think you're grasping anything I'm saying.

They lie every time. He raped them and unraped them simultaneously I guess.

Based his lawyers aren't here user so hit me with this evidence.

looney tunes

>He also leaned on the past kids, either with threats, bribes, or emotional manipulation
Michael Jackson.
Leaning on threats, bribes, or emotional manipulation.
Sure. Okay.

You are so fucking dense you literally think
>hurr durr if they are proven liars that proves they were raped!
The worst part is you actually think that is fucking logical.

>men who lie when lying is a criminal offence

They were boys when that happened, pedo defender.

>they only lied once those poor souls would never lie again believe all wo-victims

Yes, if their testimony from the 1990s is proven false then it logically means they were raped.
>Michael Jackson did not rape me
If this statement is false, then Michael Jackson raped them. This isn't hard. This is logic 101.

Did you see his lawyers?
These were the most harmless looking jews of all time who still stand by Mike even years after the cases are all over, at their own career risks.
Now look at these accusing, lying fucks with expensive shadow lawyers who're paid by who the fuck knows who.

I actually think this debate is pretty fascinating, but let’s just look at the undisputed facts: Jackson was infatuated with little boys and liked to sleep in the same bed with them. Just saying.

>redditspacing intensifies
>23 years old is a boy

>*invites you across the world*
>SHAMONA
>*wants to be alone with your child*
>AH!
>*wants to sleep in the same bed with your child*
>HEE HEE
>*locks the door*
>OOOOOOOOOH
>*buys wedding rings for your kid*
>SHIKA INDATA
>*moves on to younger prettier kid*
>SMOOTH CRIMINAL

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the same bedROOM, which was bigger than any house you'll ever own and the parents were there too

That bed was in a huge, open room where the parents of those same boys slept.
He never slept with them in his private room.

You are a pedophile

Incorrect you absolute fucking brainlet. If two men have by their own admission lied under oath to the judiciary their word is by basic common sense not to be given great weight. So we look at what other fresh evidence they brought. Tears. Miss me with that believe all victims me too shit.

>Still not understanding the actual point I'm making
Holy fucking shit, are you all this braindead?

BASED MJ DABBING ON THE Yea Forums CHILDREN

>The James Safechad
>The Wade Robsvirgin

user? You must have forgotten me I said there are no lawyers here throw out some of this evidence.

The interior decorators should be the ones on trial. Horrendous layouts in every room. No feng shui whatsoever.

The dick pics and Jordie's drawings have only been seen by the police. After the pics were taken (Finally, under threat of arresting Michael), only then did Jackson agree to a settlement, one day before he was to be deposed, that was even larger than the family's first offer.

In 2005, the prosecution moved to introduce the pics/drawings as evidence. The defense blocked it on the grounds that Jordie wouldn't come back to testify about them. In fact, he likely couldn't even if he wanted to, due to the NDA included in the 90's settlement. If he breaches that, he could have to pay back that 20+ million.

Why would the prosecution try to enter the pics if they didn't match?
Why would the defense block the pics if they didn't match?
Let's use our thinking caps, here.

why can't zoomers into mj, is it something in the water supply?

>MAN IN THE MIRROR BAD
>MAN IN THE DOCUMENTARY GOOD

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same bed, admitted by him
youtu.be/-z34BKlCr9o?t=5072
>i have slept in the bed with many children
hiw own words

Yes user pretend you are being smart.
>hurr durr they woz lyin den but dat proofs it!!!
You absolute moron. Imagine being such a fucking redditor you think a "gotcha" moment is saying
>ok ya I know they are proven liars who only made a documentary after being turned down for work but they way they keep lying constantly just makes me trust and believe them
I'm.actually fucking mad 10/10 bait.

Timestamp fagget.

Facts about Michael Jackson that are absolutely beyond dispute
>He has slept in the same bed (no, not just bedroom, bed) as multiple underaged boys
>He sent a constant, constant stream of phonecalls and faxes to at least two of the boys
>He had materials depicting naked children in his house, as well as more conventional porn that had children's fingerprints on them
>The hall leading to his bedroom at Neverland was wired for sound and would alert him if anyone was approaching
>There is video of MJ and Safechuck purchasing a wedding ring in disguise at a jewelry store
>Jordan Chandler not only knew that MJ had odd marks on his penis but drew them to a high degree of accuracy, according to police and prosecutors
>He referred to one of his boys by the incredibly suggestive nickname "Rubba Rubba"
>He took underaged boys on tours several times and has been photographed several times holding their hands
>Jimmy Safechuck admitted MJ kissed him on the lips EVEN WHEN HE WAS STILL TRYING TO EXONERATE HIM
So, yeah, maybe there isn't an actual vid of MJ tonguing a kid's anus, but do you really need that?

>MARTIN BASHIR
Now that's an unbiased sauce right there.

Cool bro seeing as how you won't provide any evidence I did a search and here's the smoking gun dick picture drawn by Jordie Chandler.

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>are absolutely beyond dispute
Yes they are.

>STILL not getting it
We're done here. Jesus fucking Christ, never reproduce or set foot in a court of law.

why are /pol/tards defending the most obvious pedo ever?

Thank you.
I’ll say it again. Regardless of what you believe, nobody can deny that MJ was obsessed with little boys and liked to have them in his bed with him. Even if that weren’t true, just the fact that he would always have a boy at his side in public is a huge red flag.

i think the link is timestamped, but 1:24:32
kek are you for real? mj is saying it not bashir, lmao

Woah that looks just like MY dick.

Meserau will fuck you up. He's one of the top in the country, and this shows it. It's very unkosher to not stand by and defend your clients, even in death. Lawyers operate on their own etiquette.

There are plenty of acquaintances and employees who would attest that Jackson had a darker, shrewder side. Look at how he ran his business, snatching the Beatles and Sony catalogues out from under other major players.

Most of the threats were courtesy of Pellicano, his hired "problem solver", who he put in charge of digging up dirt on the families.

what was their perjury about?

Just admit you're a fucking moron lad. Trying to pretend people with a history of proving lying can only lie in a binary fashion that """proves""" your fucking feelings is so embarrassing I'm glad for your sake this is anonymous. Now run along you fucking brainlet have some crayons for dinner.

LIES

THAT'S IGNORANT

>I slept with two kids on one bed, in a giant room with a bunch of other people, then we went on a ride in a balloon, we have footage of it too
>MIKE IS A PEDOOOOO
Nice try.

>self confessed perjurers
Reading comprehension my man.

>t. Prince Michael Jackson II
Fuck off, kid. Your dad was a diddler.

Whoa did I rape Jordie Chandler too that looks just like me or a mushroom

>called jews kikes in his song
>"they don't really care about us"
>openly believed in God his entire career

yeah, I'm thinking this is (((character assassination)))

Nope. That's notes from one of the cops, the actual drawing showed a dark spot on the lower shaft.

that is not from the trial lol, it is from victor gutierres book. nice "real evidence" buddy

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yes but WHAT did they lie about in their perjury?

Do you really believe that two people who are successful with shitton of money would require to lie on tv worldwide? With their family? Admitting things which will brand them forever in their life?

>so utterly BTFO he resorts to t. posting
lmfao obliterated

Not the same user

>seeing as how you wouldn't provide[...]I did a search
Can you read mate? I searched for what he described but wouldn't produce.

I think they’re just ultra-diehard fans. I almost admire their dedication, but then I think of all the lives that were shattered.

the kid said he'd seen mj's dick hundreds of times but then confidently said he was circumcised, that's a wash buds

Cool story bro.

You can go on pornhub right now and watch straight men get railed up the shitter by gangs of niggers for a few hundred dollars. Money does strange things to people.

>fail to understand elementary logic even after it's explained to you multiple times
>can't believe that multiple anons would ridicule you for this
Cool story bro.

They have their own generic pop.

Hit a nerve, "Blanket"? Did he diddle you too? Stay mad! :^)

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God is a Jewish construct you stupid monkey.

Wait... how do you know whether or not Jacko was circumcised?

Defenders try to say that Safechuck stole his story from Guttierez's book. But in fact, Guttierez was writing his book during the years Safechuck was Jackson's special friend. It makes sense that the details would line up. I honestly wonder if Safechuck has heard of Guttierez.

Jews hate jesus and christians. doesn't matter if it's sand people bs or not, it's a fact.

That's what I thought. Now shut your trap, schizo.

Pedo shills: would you let your kid to sleep with a guy?
Just answer me this.

pictures got taken at the time of those allegations and obviously his autopsy

>#listenandbelieve fag calling anyone sheltered
I fucking hate Jackson and argue his case in these threads. You blind dumbasses don't even see your being used to progress a guilty until proven innocent trend.

>simple logic
>liars can only lie one time the truth fairy told me
>get btfo so hard you resort to t. posting and now trying to force consensus
I can smell the reddit through the computer screen.

So what you are trying to tell, if you are rich you want more money, so you will convince allnof your family to lie for you, saying things that will brand you as a cocksucking faggot forever, also your children too. Okay

>still not getting it
>still making the claim that only one user has replied to him without providing any evidence

>u mad bro?
lmfao obliterated

They don’t have the critical thinking ability to think in hypothetical terms, nor could they possibly imagine what parenthood would be like.

Take your meds.

>reply counter increases
>post counter static
>all posts one minute plus apart
>all desperate reddit pleading about his logic
lol

But what if he was really really really really B A S E D?

In the autopsy, they said he was uncut. While it is possible that cut and uncut can look the same, I will concede the defenders this detail.

But it does not change the fact that the PROSECUTION WANTED THE JURY TO SEE THE PICS and THE DEFENSE DIDN'T WANT THEM TO SEE IT. Like OP said, truth fears no investigation.

pedo defense force is at full power today

Here, dipshit, even though the burden of proof is on you I figured I'd help you out. Now fuck off.

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>faced with evidence he can look up right now that straight men will publically let themselves be fucked up the ass for cash, user pretends nobody would ever lie for cash
Ok

>seething so hard he pulled out his phone
lol this nigger boiling up

Sheltered? Wtf are you talking about? Damn pedos can’t even read I guess.

Nope. Burden of proof is on you.

i don't want pics of my dick floating around either what dark secret am i hiding

I am 35 my wife died when my son was 2. Now he is 5 and he sleeps with me sometimes, am I a pedo?

>truth fears no investigation
It should, people can look dead straight into the truth and interpret it as false.

what's a Spabook?

Man I can tell when you believe all women lads are burning up you just start seeing pedos everywhere. Must be hard that the metoo bullshit isn't flying anymore.

They would still have been confidential as far as the public was concerned. Plus if decades in prison is on the line, I think I could live with a little embarrasment.

Netflix shills getting toasty in this thread.
Based MJ

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Dawg this nigger be seething.

while the uncut thing is true you must admit that in an erect penis the foreskin pulls back so it isn't that obvious wether it's cut or uncut(for a child, no less) and he did describe the blotches accurately

Yep. Just as I thought: you've got nothing. Enjoy your last (You).

>californian legal system
>confidential

Okay he did it but I do want to own that.

all patient records are confidental, celebrities' still get leaked constantly

What do you think they do when they have to enter cp as evidence?

>hehe I'll say goodbye for the second time that will show him!
lmfao bye bye lad don't forget your crayon supper.
>d lies cun only lies one tim me mammy tud me so!

>describe the blotches accurately
according to the police who have the only full copy of the description and were hugely biased against him, nobody else has ever seen the two pieces of evidence together to affirm that so you're talking directly out of your ass

Jury's are easily swayed. Letting them see the pic would be like letting OJ try on the glove, you're giving the prosecution an easy lay up.
>"the victim said the defendant has a penis, which resembles that of a penis, and here we have it ladies and gentleman of the jury, the smoking gun, the defendant undeniably has a penis that looks just like that"
>*gasps and murmurs*

Fap.

>you must admit that in an erect penis the foreskin pulls back so it isn't that obvious wether it's cut or uncut
Seen a lot of dicks have you user?

>160 posts
>29 posters
lmao at this obsessed faggot itt

>poster count doesn't increase

(parents weren't there too, btw)

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now you're not even trying lmao

HE NEEDS TO BE VINDICATED!!! TO THOSE WHO BELIEVE THE LIES OF "LEAVING NEVERLAND" PLEASE WATCH THESE!!!

Part 1: youtube.com/watch?v=6pnoQqlygQs

Part 2: youtube.com/watch?v=9yTTEwBLfUQ

Part 3: youtube.com/watch?v=zYx0vLfpRYY

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Because as I told you, it's sealed and in the hands of police.

see

Nigger you set yourself up for that. Don't blame me for taking the easy dunk.

>calls everyone else pedos
>saves pictures of what I assume is a boy jacking off
Hmmmm.......

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That picture will never not creep me out. You cannot tell me that's not a red flag for some serious personality disorders.

Fake! Cant even see the face

I've never heard of prosecutors entering evidence that directly harms their case.

>the DA thinks it's a match
Do you know what the DA does?

I see a pretty distinctive weak chin. You can probably match the tacky bullshit in the background too.

I AM THE GOLDEN GOD

Easy blurry shoop

Do you?

hey, i'm not saying it's the absolute truth i'm just showing i didnt
>talk directly out of my ass
like that mean user said :'(
and also thisi wouldn't make much sense for the prosecution to try entering the evidence if it didn't match, at least to some degree

if it harmed their case depended entirely on how they used it. a guess that his genitals were affected by vitiligo when that's extremely common in people who suffer from it can only be called educated, as is assuming that he was circumcised. they would ignore that and argue emotionally about something other than the facts in an attempt to steer the narrative

sneedon self-admittedly had a hate boner for mj and pursued him for more than a decade, if you're looking for an impartial observer keep on looking

i mean...he was the prosecutor. right? was he supposed to be an mj fan?

NEW THREAD
MJ NEEDS US

wat? either it's a match or not. guessing there are spots is not the same as pointing out a specific one.
Sneddon had access to the pics. If he had a hate boner to win the case, and they didn't match, why would he try to introduce the pics? I don't know how to make this any simpler to you people.

I don't think so faggot. We're gonna be a comfy general now, with regular memes and rampant samefags.

Someone post some Grandpa Simpson

>"a mark in about the same relative location"
>from a guy who's desperate to see a match
yeah no, reveal the actual sketch so i can laugh at this even harder

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Does nobody bring up this from interview with Latoya Jackson?
youtu.be/9_1tGqn4jXc

This.
Also this is the supposed smoking gun that throws out Chandlers accusations:

SCHWARTZ: But when you say “winning,” what are you talking about, “winning”?

CHANDLER: I will get everything I want, and they will be totally — they will be destroyed forever. They will be destroyed. June is gonna lose Jordy. She will have no right to ever see him again.“

Just seems like a dad who wanted to destroy his bitch wife for letting him get nonced by Jacko for so long

What's stopping them from obtaining the photos, making a new drawing and then claiming it was drawn before they had the photos?

So because his mother didn't like the fact that he was effeminate, this means he must be guilty?

I swear the people who believe he's guilty the strongest are also the most gullible
this documentary is like a litmus test for how easily manipulated a person is

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you tell us, brave independent thinker

but they look all sad n shieet #BelieveVictims

>In 1993 in their New York home, Gordon beat Jackson repeatedly with a heavy brass dining room chair, leaving Jackson with black eyes, swollen lip and chin "the size of a clenched fist", cuts requiring 12 mouth stitches and contusions on her face, arms, legs and back.
>Jackson lost consciousness during the beating, leading Gordon to believe she was dead. She recalled, "He called his friends and said, 'She's dead. I killed her,' because I was lying in a puddle of blood and I was out."
>Gordon was arrested but then released, claiming he beat Jackson in self-defense.
>In December 1993, Gordon hastily arranged a press conference in Tel Aviv, where he had Jackson read a statement claiming to believe the sex abuse allegation against her younger brother Michael might be true.
>Gordon claimed La Toya had proof which she was prepared to disclose for a fee of $500,000. A bidding war between US and UK tabloids began, but fell through when they realized that her revelations were not what she had claimed them to be.
>According to La Toya, Gordon threatened to have siblings Michael and Janet killed if she didn't follow his orders

>He didn't... didn't.
Rod Temperton did ya retarded memer.

>implying anyone thought he was innocent before the doco
zoomers actually believe this? hahaha i hope you are baiting

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MJ's lawyers weren't laughing when they moved to throw it out. And MJ himself certainly wasn't laughing when they finally forced him to return to the country and took the pics. He changed his tune right quick and paid that kid 20mil. Before the pics, he was fighting the settlement.

Sometimes it is wiser to settle, but is a child sex abuse case really one of those times? Michael had to have known it would look like pure hush money. The media used it to permanently ruin his reputation.
>But his managers made him settle!
Wrong. The settlement was signed by the two parties and no one else. It was his decision alone.

But at first, he hired this shady private investigator to make the issue go away. He tried to lowball the dad until he had enough and got Jordy to see a therapist who had to report his abuse to the police. It was only after the police got involved that Michael stopped feeling so in charge. First he fled the country. Then they threatened to extradite him. Then he refused to let them take pics, and they threatened to arrest him right there. He kicked and screamed like a toddler while they tried to take the pictures. And once they had, he went straight to settling and keeping Jordy from taking the stand.

It seems clear to me that Jackson was afraid of a jury seeing those pics.

>Just seems like a dad who wanted to destroy his bitch wife for letting him get nonced by Jacko for so long
That's exactly what it sounds like. Once the police case was underway, Michael went back to the dad to try and pay him and he refused until Jackson finally threw nearly all he could at him. Jackson would have financial troubles for the rest of his life.

youtu.be/aFuhGXeAkHU
youtu.be/JarSLQRoeYg
here's some essential hee hee videos

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I'm 26 years old faggot, I was watching the 2005 trial on TV while you were probably still shitting your pants in pre-K

Plus killing himself would suggest a large amount of guilt, and I don’t believe he felt guilty because he hurt Jackos feelings

Someone must be really naive to think a man that was known for sleeping in bed with little boys and had pictures of naked little boys in his bedroom isnt a pedophile

El Ayuwoki hee hee En GTA 5

youtube.com/watch?v=_WfhIHCMy5k

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Maybe he felt guilty for exploiting his child.

>forming an opinion based on reading multiple independent sources of inquiry, court transcripts, motions for evidence, interviews with attorneys from both sides
>getting all your info from a 3 hour one-sided "documentary" that unironically plays spoopy music in order to manipulate you

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yes, and that someone is you

I’m not the one that thinks hes innocent retard. Michael Jackson defenders are actually braindead

>26 years old
then you know what mj public image was since around 93, that of a derranged pedophile, this doco changes nothing

No I mean you are the naive one

This was the best part in Leaving Neverland for me. I paused at this.

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I know but how? Im not the one who would let my kid sleep in bed with Michael Jackson

all I needed to know is there's a tranny freak parading around with an endless line of underage boys. more evidence is not needed.

not really. he was still massively popular after 1993. I grew up not even knowing about the 93 settlement until the 2005 trial. was he considered weird? Yeah. a derranged (sic) pedophile? not really, that's revisionist history.

>“We couldn’t weigh that with this case in particular,” he said. “We all felt that he was guilty of something. But we feel that if he didn’t learn from this experience, then it’s up to another jury to convict him.”
>I thought that Michael Jackson has molested boys in the past, and probably molested this boy, but as I said, what we believe doesn’t matter… the EVIDENCE has to PROVE IT.
-Paul Rodriguez, the jury foreman

Here's another juror being interviewed:
>COSBY: But you just said to me that you believe Michael Jackson is a child molester, is that correct?
CARLS: That’s right.
>COSBY: But you let him walk, based on the law, is what you’re saying.
CARLS: Well, I have to – I have to follow the law, yes, and the jury instruction.

Aaaand another one!
>Q. What would you say to Michael Jackson?
A. Get it together your a grown man and you need to stop doing these things the jury found you not guilty but that does not mean you are innocent and we know that something is not right at neverland stop hanging around with little boys. “That’s not to say he’s an innocent man. He’s just not guilty of the crimes he’s been charged with.”

And another one, who admitted she regretted the verdict.
>“No doubt in my mind whatsoever, that boy was molested, and I also think he enjoyed to some degree being Michael Jackson’s toy”

There was one juror who was a legit Jackson fangirl. She even went to the acquittal victory party! What did this die-hard, unscrupulous supporter have to say?
>“What mother in her right mind would … just freely volunteer your child to sleep with someone, and not so much just Michael Jackson but anyone, for that matter?”
Is that a tacit admission he did it? By one of his own fans?

The jury was simply strict about how they could consider the evidence and what qualifies as reasonable doubt. But even the people who let him go felt torn about it and over a third of them went on record to suggest he was an abuser.

Here are actual facts
>Jordie Chandler's dad wanted money for his screenwriting career. He wrote one (good) movie and then disappeared.
>They settled for $20 million. Why didn't the dad get michael in jail if Michael actually did it?
>Michael Jackson broke down in tears at a rehearsal when he heard that people are accusing him of something he'd never do
>the FBI spent 10 years investigating Michael, including several unannounced raids on the Neverland Ranch, which stressed michael out extremely.
>In these 10 years, the only vaguely pedophilic material found were two best selling art photography books.
>Jimmy Safechuck's interviews when he was 16 in 1994 convinced investigators that nothing happened between the two, which is why he wasn't a witness in the 2005 case
>in the 2005 case, Michael was accused of 13 accounts of pedophilia. He was found not guilty of all of them, and of the 1993 case that never had a verdict due to the settlement
>Wade Robson practically begged his lawyers to let him be the first to testify in the 2005, which gave the prosecution hope that maybe he has something important to say. He just wanted to be the first to defend Michael.
>at age 23, even after investigators described pedophilic acts to him, Wade still said nothing happened
>Wade Robson was meant to direct Step Up 4, but quit the movie in hopes of directing the Michael Jackson Cirque du Soleil tribute
>He begged the estate to let him direct, however they refused. This is when he started saying Michael abused him
>In one of the court cases Wade is on record stating to prosecutors that "I'm a master of deception, it's time I got mine"
>The judge found this out and threw out the case, stating that there was no way he could believe Wade
>so much of Leaving Neverland has been debunked, to the point to Dan Reed has cut out huge chunks of the film for international broadcasts.

You realize that jury members are quite literally just assholes dragged in from off the street, right? it's not like they have some kind of expert opinion to offer. who gives a fuck if some of them thought he might have been guilty? they still voted to acquit.

>there's people in this thread that unironically believe his story that he didn't "realize" he had been molested until he was a 31 year old man
holy fucking kek are you people retarded?

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AYUWOKI?
AYU?

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the prosecution never once claimed that he slept in the same bed with a child, they said he slept in the same room. his bedroom was the size of a duplex apartment btw.

I shouldn't have to pay for a service in order to watch this documentary. This whole thing is becoming way too hyped and marketed for what it is. It doesn't make any sense to me

I think it's pretty important. They know the details more than we do. The foreman was just a little autistic with the jury instructions.

MJ is dead, so the question is no longer "guilty in a court beyond a single reasonable doubt" or not. It's "did he do it" or not? That's all we want to know, for our own curiosity if not for any more noble reason.

These people spent 5 months in that courtroom. I think they do count as experts on if Michael Jackson was a serial child abuser or not. While some may have had doubts about Gavin's family, they knew that Jackson had a inappropriate fixation on kids and was "guilty of something". This is a major point for HE DID IT

I think at this point it's safe to say Anti-MJ posters are all pedos. They only attack Michael because of their own guilt.
>iiii don't watch CP! Look at MJ he raped little boys ! No way a pedo would say that...right?
Kinda pathetic when you realize it.

well, most normal people have some understanding of the human psyche, but since you are an autist and can only think in black and white, obviously the reasons as to why it took him 30 years go right above your flat head

Your mom is the size of a duplex appartment

They slept in his bed constantly. And then he would go to their house and sleep in the kid's bed! (Sometimes they made a fort in the living room)

MODS MODS MIGITTY MODS MODS MMMMOOOODDDDDSSSSS!!!!!!!!

Watching a dude jerk off does not give you any high ground

except he wasn't a kid, he was an adult in an adult body with an adult mind with adult sexual tendencies.

There. Now we're even.

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because he learnt he could get away with it

Oh please. Spare me the bullshit. Even men who’ve said MJ never molested them, eg McCaulay Culkin, have still testified they slept in his bed. Michael himself had said he slept in bed with children.

nope
contradicting yourself under oath is perjury
they don't have to prove anything

>well, most normal people have some understanding of the human psyche
Human psychology would suggest that an adult man in his 30's would know if he had been molested or not, dumb fuck.
>obviously the reasons as to why it took him 30 years go right above your flat head
Because being friends with Michael while he was living was profitable for him but now that he's dead and the estate didn't give him his dream job he doesn't give a fuck about smearing his name?seems pretty fucking obvious

there are multiple instances on tape of him admitting to sleeping in the same bed with children

show me where he admits to sleeping in the same bed with a kid, I fucking promise you shills that footage doesn't exist. He said he would sleep in a sleeping bag on the floor, and when he talks about "sharing" his bed he means letting the kid sleep in the bed while he sleeps somewhere else in the room.
all you gullible morons have the same exact talking points that are easily debunked with a 30 second google search, I swear to god.

of course he knew all the time, you dense fucking mong, but since he was one of his biggest fans and in love with him, he wanted to protect him and not speak out. you do realise that they were in a love relationship?

faggots like you make it so obvious you never saw the documentary or understand how childhood abuse works and are just blindly creating your arguments based on snippets you read from others. robson made it clear he knew he was molested but felt he could never reveal it because of the manipulation from michael. he was going to take it to the grave until he had kids of his own and got to see how innocent he was at the same age he was molested and he couldn't stir the nightmares of the same happening to his kid. safechuck also declined testifying for michael in the trial at all because he knew what michael did was wrong. michael never talked to him after safechuck denied testifying

>expecting an autist to understand this

You realize the time from him being in denial to him realizing he was molested might not have been a singular moment, correct? It may not have been a single flip of the switch, he may have knew deep down for some time what had happened but did not want to confront it when he had other things in his life going on, or been ashamed, or did not want michaels legal team and crazy mj fans like you harassing him. I’m not implying Wade Robson is definitely telling the truth, but looking at all the backlash he and James (who in my opinion is the more believable one) are getting, I don’t know if I’d ever come forward if I was in their shoes if Michael actually had molested them

>muh victim psychology
KEK you guys fell for that card hard, huh?
pretty convenient how he suddenly "found the courage to speak" only a few months after getting turned down by the Jackson estate to choreograph the Cirque du Soleil show, huh?

youtube.com/watch?v=Tj2pPW_Jf8g
1:07 if you can't find it

Do you have autism? Serious question

He says something like "I share the bed. I give them the bed and I sleep in the floor....but even if I was in bed, there's nothing wrong with that."

He also always tries to make it sound like his door was open and they just follow him in. With how tight the security systems were to his bedroom, I find that hard to believe. He'd have to invite you in.

>I am doing well and I am strong
>As you may already know after my tour ended I remain out of the country undergoing treatment for a dependency on children all over the world
>there have been many disgusting statements made recently concerning allegations of improper conduct on my part

>these statements about me are the truth
>these statements about me are disgusting
>these statements about me are totally the truth

>I love you and I am god
>I love you and I am god
>I love children
>I love thousands upon thousands of children to view and photograph my body including my horrifying penis, my disgusting buttocks, my Laura torso, thighs and any other error that they wanted
>I will say that I am particularly upset by the handling of photographs by the incredible terrible mass media
>at every opportunity the media has dissected and manipulated my penis in any other error that they wanted

>the parties involved were still not satisfied and wanted to take even more pictures
>it was a nightmare a horrifying nightmare
>no person should ever have to view and photograph my body including my disgusting penis and even after experiencing the indignity of my buttocks, my Laura torso, thighs
>I ass all of you to wait and hear the truth

>If I am guilty of anything is of gaining sheer joy from seeing children with my disgusting penis it is of loving children of all ages and races
>it is of getting sheer joy from seeing children submitted to a dehumanizing and humiliating examination by God

>gehe gehe gehe

>I do try to be God-like
>come unto me and I am God
>come unto my buttocks
>come unto my Laura torso
>come unto my penis

>it brings tears to my eyes when I see the Los Angeles Police Department subjected to all the false allegations being made by the incredible, terrible mass media

>again to my friends and fans
>I have a dehumanizing, disgusting dependency on reconstructive surgery
>as you may already know I am guilty of these allegations

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his entire life was crashing down around him yes. please watch the documentary before talking out of your ass

>But I have slept in the bed with many children.

GET REKT

>conjecture from the mind of a lunatic
yes user, the rest world is out there to come and take advantage of you, but not the grooming freak psychopath with a jesus complex, he is humanity's saviour and dindu nuffin

youtube.com/watch?v=RV7-HDO5zb0
I'M A SICK FUCK I LIKE A SAFECHUCK

everyone thinks they know MJ. he made songs about environmentalism, making yourself a better person to change the world, songs about love, about loneliness and everything in between. but he was also a molester. he truly groomed the entire world

>run out of talking points
>better call him autistic again!

>Did you ever sleep in the bed with them?
>No
seems like the relevant part here

>BuT dId YoU wAtCh tHe DoCuMeNtArY???
no I prefer to do independent research instead of watching propaganda hit pieces, thanks

doesn't he have his own children? could be talking about that
He said he would share a bed with Macaulay Culkin. you lnow, the guy who defended him in court and has adamantly refused to believe he had ever done anything prurient with a child his whole career?

>literally any behavior can be explained away by victim psychology
how the fuck is anyone supposed to argue against you when your position is this retarded? at some point you have to label people with personal accoutability. I'd say being an adult man (AKA OLD ENOUGH TO KNOW BETTER) is that point. He's either lying now, or he lied to protect an child molester. In either scenario, he's a despicable piece of shit.

he has the same "if the kid wants it, it's okay" mentalities that all pedo's and enablers have

>did you sleep in the bed with these 2 kids
>no but i have slept in the bed with many kids

>but not the 2 kids that tried to claim I molested them
seems like the cogent point that you're trying hard to gloss over

Your last reply doesn’t even make sense in relation to what you replied to. Are you okay?

>>Did you ever sleep in the bed with them?
>>No
>seems like the relevant part here
Him, not "them". He says he only slept on the floor with Gavin. Everyone else was fair game though.

He says:
>MANY CHILDREN
Specifically talking about ones not related to him.

>how the fuck is anyone supposed to argue against you when your position is this retarded? at some point you have to label people with personal accoutability. I'd say being an adult man (AKA OLD ENOUGH TO KNOW BETTER) is that point. He's either lying now, or he lied to protect an child molester. In either scenario, he's a despicable piece of shit.
>personal accountability
>a 5 year old
He was pushed by his mom (here lies the other half of the accountability), and MJ the psychopath cherrypicked him. Imagine that - 5 years old, his biggest fan, the mom pushes him right into his arms. It's diddler's heaven. He could get away with the maximum amount of diddling against the minimum amount of risk.

mjandboys.wordpress.com/
mjfacts.com/

MJ was a pedo. Those two links are mandatory reading for anybody in this general.

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mjfacts is not loading here. it was up all the prior days... really makes you think.

did you watch the clip? neither of those kids were the ones who accused him. fuck you have no idea what you are talking about

if you commit perjury you can no longer be called on as a reliable witness case closed

I'm being called a lunatic because I believe a 22 year old man is old enough to know that he should be testifying against his abuser instead of lying for him. My point is that he's using the "I was protecting him because I loved him even though we hand't seen each other in years" is such a transparently concocted reason to explain why he would choose to perjure himself in cour

who was accusing him of molesting them in bed other than Gavin and Star?
>Specifically talking about ones not related to him.
uh what context is in the clip that makes you think that?

You realize that he was 22 when he testified, not 5 years old, right? how fucking dumb are you?

>neither of those kids were the ones who accused him
Gavin and Star Arvizo WERE the ones who accused him... what are YOU talking about? Dunning-Kruger abounds with you people

I could seriously body you MJ "truthers" all day with one arm tied behind my back, continue coping lads

Holy shit. I’m not going to argue with you any longer. You must find it so easy to argue since you don’t fact check and you just let whatever shit is in your throat leak out of your mouth

What facts do i have wrong? fact check me. i'm begging you buddy

They've run out of arguments and are resorting to "viCtiM psYcHoLogY"

such a lazy excuse lmao
and yet if you were to try to use the "victim psychology" card as a way to explain some of Michael's questionable decisions as an adult man they would fall over each other trying to be the first to discredit that notion

>You realize that he was 22 when he testified, not 5 years old, right? how fucking dumb are you?
being a severe autist, you fail to comprehend this, but your mind is not set in stone when you are 22. people's insights change all the time, through life experiences, et cetera.

those bottles. this is some serious age-play going on here in plain sight. this emmanuel guy had the appearance of a toddler and MJ treated him like one.

>a 22 year old married adult man is not old enough to know right from wrong
is this really the position you want to argue from? I'm not trying to stop you, just want to make sure we're 100% clear that you unironically stand by that statement.

learn to read, you utter shit cunt autist

You're being really vague about your position so that's why I'm trying to pin you down with an explicit statement. You're telling me that because he was abused as a 5 year old that, when he was a 22 year old adult, he was still affected enough by that to not realize what he was doing was wrong? I'm not being a dick, I just really need you to clarify exactly what your point here is.

The investigators described acts of pedophilia and rape to Wade and he said nothing like that ever happened.

bro he didn't realize it was abuse! 22 year old adult men don't know the difference between love and sexual molestation.

>vague
the kid was in love with him and was a huge fan. what's so difficult to understand about this? the unpleasantness of the diddling he took for granted

so fucking what?

he thought it was consensual and he and mj had a super special love.

>the kid
you mean the 22 year old adult man that was definitely old enough to know if he had been abused or not
>the unpleasantness of the diddling he took for granted
So now he gets on camera and breaks down into tears talking about the molestation, but back then, just 14 years ago, when he actually had the power and the opportunity to do something, he was adamant that nothing happened... do you really think there's nothing suspicious about that at all?

lmao you seriously believe that?

fuck yourself

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ooo a spoopy picture of MJ!
pair that with some spoopy music and you too can be a "documentary film director" like Dan Reed

back to wakanda with you. is child sexual abuse legal in wakanda?

youtube.com/watch?v=RM7lw0Ovzq0

I'm as white as they come and I'm not even really a fan of his music but you'd have to be straight up retarded if you're willing to believe "muh victim psychology" is the reason a 22 year old man would risk perjuring himself in order to defend his own abuser.

blah,blah,blah
you are teh brainlet low-iq person. study child sexual abuse for a few days( NOT youtube vids ) and then maybe you are able to make a informed judgement.

Imagine being so cynical that you believe thete can be no pure people in this world who only want to do good and help others with their money and fame. You #muteMJ faggots make me sick.
Whats even more confusing is the /pol/tards who swallow up this jewish media machine orchastrated to shift the focus during the Weinstien and Epstein scandal. Go ahead and eat up the mocumentary by this bald kike. You know why hes bald? Because he has Jewkemia

Pic related

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he fucked dem kids

so, your angle is hatred for jews?

this user is woki

>study child sexual abuse for a few days
nah I'd rather study the actual facts of the case and not his pop psych excuses for perjuring himself, thanks though.

then you are just a shill

>shill
do you know what that word means

>buying into the jesus schtick
>calling others brainwashed
wew

youtube.com/watch?v=MS0u_y56-qM

sure

ok then explain how I am a shill

I don't trust people that can't climb trees

no u

sit faggot

i wonder how many time she hears HEE HEE while going out at night.

tiffanyfitzhenry.com/2019/03/06/whos-really-behind-leaving-neverland/

>The media used it to permanently ruin his reputation.
Why are Jacko fans so braindead? This nigga was on Diane Sawyer live promoting his new album less than two years after the settlement. She does a fluff piece with MJ and Lisa Marie and makes sure the world knows that they are intimate together. Yet Jacko fans still think this is a smear job and not a promotion/rehabilitation of his image.

youtube.com/watch?v=H5xxK7ad-zg

>Here's the facts.
>Doesn't actually know the facts

Wacko Jacko

King

t. Hershel Goldstienbergman

Thats your own Son, your flesh and Blood.
Jacko was sleeping with random kids.

Hmm

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So you killed your wife so you can freely molest your son?

If everything her son said is true this bitch should be in jail right now for serving her son up on a silver platter, she should really just keep her fucking mouth shut.

i can imagine she did a 360 and cried DAUW

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>people's insights change all the time, through life experiences, et cetera.

Like how Robson's "life experience" of getting snubbed for the MJ Cirque Du Soleil project convinced him that he was molested.

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I think it might have been the tongue up the butthole

in the wings of an angeeel

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"I realized I had been abused when I noticed my bank account was drying up and MJ wasn't alive to hand me gigs anymore"

>Jackson drones still going at it
lmao how can you even defend this shit anymore? all the evidence is there.

>straight
I mean like, no they ain't but yeah white niggas need cash

>I watched a 3 hour documentary so I've seen all the evidence
Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.

What is it about that Mayli Wang girl that captures the imagination of so many anons?

Do you say that to yourself when you look in the mirror?

>the irony of this statement

MJ is shameless chronic liar too. he lay about his obvious plastic surgeries and non-existed skin condition all his life.

>el ayuwoki
>el biliyin
>el yumisumi