Has anyone else noticed that the title of Drive has a double meaning, it both refers to cars and also refers to "drive"...

ahh
never thought of it like that
Nice one user

It also means to hit a golf ball with a driver. Consider that.

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Interesting... like the driver he carries throughout the movie.

I thought it was pretty obvious that the title had a double meaning...

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Drive also rhymes with five. Notice how there are more than five actors in the movie.

Drive for what?

its funny because drive fanboys are undriven fanboys who need to get rides from mom to buy pizza.

Irene is Gosling's DRIVE to do the vast majority of what he does during the movie. He was kind of aimless before that, but she provides the motivation that drives him throughout the entire film, even after it's clear that he can't have her once she sees his violent/sociopathic streak.

>he can't have her
like she can be picky with a black kid to care of

>it's clear that he can't have her once she sees his violent/sociopathic streak.

spotted the incel

The fuck, her name is Irene?

That's just how the movie is, user. She doesn't want the Goose anymore once she sees him stomp the shit out of the hitman.

youtube.com/watch?v=JlR2RjKtMCk

I think this really adds to the lore.

"No."

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Fucking obviously, what did you think that whole scorpion and the frog motif was about?

Wait, there's a frog in Drive?

Its unnerving and the odd juxtaposition of Gosling's character, who's face is covered in a mask, staring as an outsider, at the man he's about the kill (the same man who, arguably, took away his one chance at having a normal life) enjoying himself in a social setting (something due to his predicament, he can't really do) is pretty interesting at the very least.

The mask is his real face (he's a monster). It was just a spooky fucking scene.

I only remeber because "YOU TOLD THEM ABOUT IREENE?"

>yfw you realise It's been 10 years since drive was released

> who’s face
> who is face

Goose thinks he's the scorpion

But he's really the frog

Mea culpa, pal, my take isn't wrong though.

user you need to learn how to count

Never claimed otherwise :^)

OP is an antifag.

>/pol/cel screeching intensifies

Never heard your voice before, who are you?

WHO IN FACE ARE YOU?!

I'm a pro-ZOG neoliberal/neocon. I wouldn't fit well there, nor do I dislike fags.

Then why am I antifag? If anything I am profag.

the fuck are you talking about?

The fable of the scorpion and the frog. Basically, a scorpion asks a frog to carry him across the river, but the frog says "fuck that you'll sting me". Scorpion points out that he would drown too if he did that, so the frog takes him across, but the scorpion stings him anyway and they both die, because the scorp is just evil by nature and can't help it.

It's name dropped in drive, and is a major motif (Driver, the frog, literally has a giant scorpion riding on his back whenever he wears his jacket - representing how he tries to trust snakes like the Jewish mob but they sting him anyway and get killed)

Except, the Driver is the scorpion and Irene is the frog.

Because you made a good point - aka OP is not a fag, you faggot.

He's a very self aware, self sacrificing scorpion then.

Oh. Then you shouldn't have been so confusing, antifag has historically been used in a negative context.

who cares, Only God Forgives was way better

Wow that's a really profound thing of you to notice op. You should give yourself a gold star or something.

He's wearing a Stone Cold Steve Austin mask is is about to open a can of whoop ass and that's the bottom line.

Even Refn hates Only God Forgives. Or maybe he doesn't, apparently it's a masterpiece. But then he compares Drive to Citizen Kane.

Sheeit dis nigga get it. It be about power struggles n sheit.

>But then he compares Drive to Citizen Kane.
kek srsly?

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hasn't been posted in a while

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it also means drive as in hard drive because the main character is a computing engineer

youtube.com/watch?v=1jPWGEoyJHY

It's a kino interview.

Didn't Refn call OGF a masterpiece in front of William Friedkin who thought he was absolutely insane to think so

I found it very obvious from Refn's tone that he was just bantering and Friedkin was so autistic that he didn't pick up on it. Imagine how autistic someone has to be to be more autistic than Refn.

she's a single mother of a beaner kid. if anything him being a killer is just going to maker her jump on his dick even more

>Imagine how autistic someone has to be to be more autistic than Refn

>TFW this movie is 8 years old already

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That Jew is irritating but kek at Refn. Though it seems like he was sort of trying to joke, in his autistic fashion.

One reviewer interpretation I read was it was supposed to be a rejection of everything that was acclaimed and what people liked in Drive, even sort of a parody of it.

Did Refn ever talk about what he tried to do with OGF? I like hearing about directorial intent, seeing how bad they screwed up etc. Did he mean for it to be this way - a rejection of Drive or did he earnestly tried to do a quasi-sequel?

Friedkin has never directed anything even remotely as good as Only God Forgives

She literally goes to his room the same night though.

Why does Yea Forums love a movie about a dude who gets cucked by a coalburner?

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if anything oscar isaac gets cucked

Well I watched the documentary "My Life Directed By Nicolas Winding Refn" which is about the making of OGF and he made a few comments about how it wasn't going to be as mainstream as Drive and that he had a feeling people weren't going to like it (and he was right) so I think your theory is probably accurate. Check it out sometime if you haven't, it's less than an hour long.

heh, thanks I haven't seen it but seen my fair share of the webm's posted here with Goose hanging out with the kids and.. I believe the towel energy clips are from that too.

it's well made and the main character is solemn, quiet, lonely, and lacks meaning in life, giving anons that "literally me" feeling. how is this a question?

Because he was a real human bean, and a hero!

A real hero

>ftfy

the driver has the scorpion on his back.

An important thing to remember about Only God Forgives is that the casting of Gosling as Julian was entirely incidental, it only happened because Luke Evans was unavailable due to scheduling problems.
This basically throws any supposed connection to Drive out of the window, other than Refn's usual disdain for dialogue.

>Did Refn ever talk about what he tried to do with OGF?
Chang is the literal Old Testament God and well, "only god forgives". It's a very straight forward movie as long as you keep that in mind. You should be making that connection by Chang's second appearance. And once you think about the film in terms of "you are literally watching God exact vengeance" it works. The film is deeply religious.
One thing Refn has said about Only God Forgives is that the Driver, One Eye and Chang are basically the same character. But Chang is that ideal taken to the logical extreme.

>how bad they screwed up
How did he screw up?
Yes, Only God Forgives is very violent, yes it's more subdued than most films. And that's really its downfall. Refn wanted to make another weird movie like Valhalla Rising instead of following up the (accidental) mainstream appeal of Drive.

>Did he mean for it to be this way - a rejection of Drive or did he earnestly tried to do a quasi-sequel?
Only God Forgives is Refn as a high tier director who can make the film he wants, it's where his filmmaking goes without mandated limitations.
The Neon Demon goes even further than Only God Forgives and it's interesting in its own way, but I need to see it a few more times.

user, the jacket with the scorpion on it implies that the Driver styles himself as the scorpion as he never takes it off.

Bravo Refn

>he never takes it off
He does though. When he's being "himself" more he wears a denim jacket.

Maybe he's just poor and has only one jacket. It looks pretty cheap too.

like others have said, back in 2011 when Yea Forums was more /r9k/ and awkward before the based boys showed up - the posters identified with the driver.

Also it's a visually well made movie see
or as Yea Forums wrongly calls it babby's first arthouse film. it's mainstream enough, but very well directed and put together. Refn understands "film is a visual medium." it just had a perfect combination of all the things that Yea Forums liked at the time.

I meant to say he never takes it off while doing his less savory job, the point is that the Driver wants to be the Scorpion.

Who would win in a fight, Refn or Nolan?

When an autist goes into full rage mode few can beat him so Refn.

Refn feels no pain, but Nolan is pretty strong.
I guess Refn wins, barely.

You can also use a drive as storage, maybe he has a storage unit, meaning he is a replicant not a real human bean.

his job is driving(carrying) around criminals(scorpions).

That doesn't work, because it would imply the criminals betray him while he's driving them.
And that just doesn't happen.

By screwing up - I was more interested in the gap between what he himself intended, and how audiences received it. Did he have an intent in its interpretation, and did he carry it out; or if he cares about that at all.
Also, his own assessment on the film. I know a lot of directors are silent about critically commenting on their own work but I like when a straightforward guy like Refn talks about his own stuff.

The criminals are represented by scorpions on a whole, symbolic level. He ends up betrayed by them because of his connections to them and his attempts at carrying some of them (working with them, and trying to save Oscar Isaac, himself a criminal).

He clearly has a storage unit of movie props and cars that he uses to drive/carry his criminal associations and deeds.

he is betrayed. when the jews find out they robbed the mafia they try to kill him.

>By screwing up
how did he screw up, though?

>I was more interested in the gap between what he himself intended, and how audiences received it.
I am pretty sure Refn managed to get the point across that Chang is God.

I never said he screwed up.
I said I like hearing about what directors think about their own work, and their own assessment of "how bad they screwed up." that's also what I tried to clarify in the second response

basically did he have any regrets while making that film and what he thinks of audience reaction and the critical interpretation of it is.
Basically I don't like the "death of the author" interpretation. I like hearing about what artists think about their own work and what they intended.