Anyone ever seen the cremaster cycle? thoughts? kino? will it get me an art hoe?

I have no idea what you're talking about but whatever this is it looks like it was shot at Boise State so I'm interested.

>It's literally named after the muscle that controls ball-droop
heh. oh yea i forgot about this.
> but using artificial scarcity to defend quality doesn't give off good signs.
why not? seems like he's trying not to be a sellout or he knows it will be ignored if he doesnt limit showings.

another bamp

>Parts are kino as fuck, parts are boring beyond comfort
FTFY

I saw them all in one sitting at London's Barbican Centre when I was an art student 11 years ago. It was an undertaking I'm never to repeat, but glad I did it.

3 > Drawing Restraint 9 > 2 > 4 > 5 > 1

how many hours is the entire thing? what would you say you gained from watching it (the reason(s) you're glad you did it)?

I think we spent about 11 hours at the theatre, including intermission. I believe the videos are about ten hours, with Cremaster 3 being three hours alone. Cremaster 5 is a fucking opera, so it almost broke me. I'm sure my order is influenced by the fact. Visually 5 is probably the most beautiful, but I wouldn't say it's as interesting as 3 or 2, and I like the simple set pieces in 4.

I'm glad because looking at Barney's work opened up a lot for me as an art student, in terms of how far you can push contemporary sculpture, and I'm naturally drawn to his aestethics.

I'd recommend watching the documentary made for Drawing Restraint 9, 'No Restraint', as it's more available, and it's a good approach for understanding Barney's mindset.

>I'd recommend watching the documentary made for Drawing Restraint 9, 'No Restraint', as it's more available, and it's a good approach for understanding Barney's mindset.
ah cool. i'll definitely check it out.

so you watched this as a part of your art student curriculum?

>so you watched this as a part of your art student curriculum?
No, me and three mates lived together and went to the same art school. We were all fond of his work, and had books on The Cremaster Cycle lying around the apartment. We decided to go to a one evening only screening on our free time.

Contemporary artists aren't really part of fine art student curriculum, each student is responsible for their own research.

ah. interesting

My art history teacher in high school introduced cremaster cycle to us after he finished teaching the AP stuff. This was like 8 years ago so I didn’t know there were like 9 editions. Funny to come across it here on tv. What I remember is the artist climbing the inside of the Guggenheim with fake flesh hanging from his mouth (and then poured hot oil down?) I think he also was a football player at Yale or something

>I didn’t know there were like 9 editions
Drawing Restraint is a different body of work by the same artist, focusing on creativity pushing beyond its limits through limitations, birthing the transcendental. The series of videos started simply with Barney physically restraining himself, like with ropes tied to the studio floor, trying to reach to walls in order to make marks on paper, resulting in drawings. With Drawing Restraint 9 the series reaches a cinematic scope, shot on a Japanese whaling ship, featuring both the artist and his wife at the time of shooting, the artist Björk, who also made the soundtrack.

youtube.com/watch?v=Wx6VnMrMMGo

And yes, he was both an athlete and model before venturing into art. Aestethics from both fields have heavily influenced his art.

About 15 years ago, I watched Cremaster III on acid at the IFC. AMA

This.
No self respecting artist who actually believes in the merrit of their work would ever do the "only make 1000 copies and sell them for $50,000 each." This is litterally sell out shit

How is this any different from the body of works your Leonardo DaVincis, Rembrandts or Picassos created?

It's a fucking movie and can be copied easily.

The videos accompany a large number of sculptures and installations, meant to be shown at art institutions. It's basically what etchings are to painting.

Futhermore, there are laws that govern the definition of art when it comes to editions.
For instance, in photography I believe it's around 30 prints (might differ from country to country). If you produce more than the limit, it's no longer considered art, and becomes subject to different tax laws. Matthew Barney is considered a fine artist, not a director. There are artists who venture into cinema, like Julian Schnabel (Basquiat, Diving Bell and Butterfly, latest Van Gogh movie with Willem Dafoe), but those movies aren't considered fine art, since they're released in theatres.

The world of cinema and the art world are seperate fields, and you should consider respecting the fact. The art world is in some sense a meta field, as it embraces a wide range of crafts, video being one of them.