AVENGERS: INFINITY WAR Rejected Ideas From Old Scripts

No, it's really dumb. Every scene ends with a quip. They were annoying as fuck, all of them. In Infinity War, Starlord & Drax were really bad. Gamora had Thanos and Rocket had Thor but the rest shit up the movie. GOTG2 is a really annoying film because of the constant quips. The final battle is Iron Man 3 tier shit. 5/10

>Hawkeye was included in many drafts, as a member of the Secret Avengers and participant of the Battle of Wakanda, but the Russos felt he was superfluous to the narrative and would be better utilized with a proper role in AVENGERS: ENDGAME.

>Early drafts featured the Iron Legion as part of the Battle of Wakanda.

>Early drafts featured a longer and more ambitious battle between Doctor Strange and Thanos in Titan.

>Due to the absence of the Stormbreaker subplot, many drafts featured Thor venturing into battle armed with a plasma cannon provided by the Guardians.

>The forging of Stormbreaker also went through multiple iterations, like one in which Groot covers Eitri like an exoskeleton, allowing Eitri to operate Groot's arms as his own.

>A running gag in some drafts saw a mistrustful Falcon trying to trigger Bucky's brainwashing throughout their stay at Wakanda by saying random words that he believed could set Bucky off.

>The nature of Red Skull's appearance and powers also went through several different versions, with previous drafts featuring a much more monstrous version of the character, explicity stated to be a spectre tethered the Soul Stone, trapped in a nexus between the living and the dead.

>An appearance by Mistress Death was very briefly considered, although the Russos always had in mind to reinvent Thanos' motivations from an nihilistic infatuation with the embodiment of death to a misguided sense of purpose in saving the cosmos from annihilation.

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All those shows fucking sucked and are cancelled now. None of them deserved to be in the film and it absolutely wasn't necessary. Thank fucking christ it never happened.

>and The Punisher
EY, TONY. YOU THINK YOU CAN PROTECT PEPPER POTS AN' PETE PARKER? THINGS AIN'T LIKE THEY USED TO BE!

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>Captain Marvel was present in some drafts, meeting with the Avengers and the Guardians of the Galaxy on Titan while following Thanos’ trail of destruction.

What the fuck, this would've been a way better way to introduce her, like how we got to see Black Panther before his origin movie

thanks

>>Star-Lord pulling the trigger on Gamora in Knowhere did not happen in any of the drafts; it was Chris Pratt who insisted that he should do it.
>>Spider-Man’s death was no different than the other characters’ in the script, but Tom Holland was allowed to improvise on set and came up with Spider-Man desperately pleading to Iron Man that he didn’t want to die.

based

>>A running gag in some drafts saw a mistrustful Falcon trying to trigger Bucky's brainwashing throughout their stay at Wakanda by saying random words that he believed could set Bucky off.
actually kind of funny

Spiderboy's death was a weak spot because it made no sense that he'd have like 10 fucking minutes to weep when everyone else just faded away barely realizing what was happening.

spidey senses bro

They should've unleashed Winter Soldier in the final battle because he gets dusted anyway.

He doesn't gain special abilities when he's triggered, user.

>>A running gag in some drafts saw a mistrustful Falcon trying to trigger Bucky's brainwashing throughout their stay at Wakanda by saying random words that he believed could set Bucky off.
fucking kek

You don't seem familiar with Spider-Man's powers. That's actually impressive.

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but why is he such a badass when in Winter Soldier mode but so meh when Bucky?

>let's bring back red skull but not Ultron

Get fucked, russos

Pretty sure he just goes fully emotionless in Winter Soldier mode. Nothing extra special, just determined and not distracted.

>Early drafts featured the Hulk bursting out of the Hulkbuster and joining the battle.
It sucks that they cut that, for the entire time Banner was inside the suit I expected pure K I N O moment of angry Hulk destroying the suit from inside and starting to smash faceless enemies

Are you saying you wanted Ultron back? Fucking nobody liked MCU Ultron turbofaggot

The adversaries in solo movies are always overpowered vs group movies.

This is precisely why fucking Capeshit has to keep reintroducing the basics again and again. Because assholes don't pay attention and then feel the need to comment with an aura of authority.

Why is in every X-men story Magneto is such a badass when he is an enemy, but so meh when he's working with X-men?

Pleb

Did every board come together for this?

>>Star-Lord pulling the trigger on Gamora in Knowhere did not happen in any of the drafts; it was Chris Pratt who insisted that he should do it.
based

>The Russos briefly considered featuring Adam Warlock in the movie.
Should have done it.

Howard the Duck? Hahahahaha

>The decision to scrap it in order to give Bruce Banner a victory entirely his own
His own? He was inside a giant suit

Unironically the worst villain in the MCU. Potentially intimidating, all-powerful AI is actually just a simple minded quipster with the most braindead cliche evil plan imaginable. His movie was shit and it's largely because he was shit, all it accomplished was setting Civil War in motion and adding characters.

The whole Wakanda battle would have been better if they used the aliens they fought at the end of the first Avengers film (the Chitauri) so it has some continuity and a 'this is round two' vibe and the Wakandans, supposedly being hyper advanced, used shit like an air force, artillery, etc. and intelligent ways to fight the enemy. Running into the enemy horde stupidly as a last ditch effort only works when there is a lot of emotion behind it and it feels earned as it did in RotK.

>The Russos briefly considered featuring the Netflix heroes – Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, Iron Fist and The Punisher – in a minor scene, but it was impossible to line up everybody’s schedules.
Damn, this would have been cool

imagine being mcuck unironically...

That's because they actually had Gunn write the Guardians and their dialogue in that film. Yes, they fucking did that. As for the final battle, it looks BLAND compared to Titan. Maybe if Wakanda had an overcast sky or something it would have felt more visually exciting.

Yeah I thought that was weird too. I guess it makes sense that this is what the writers THOUGHT they were doing.

no, just /reddit/

Bucky, I'm going to say the N word!

What's even more baffling is that his comic design is great. The minion robots he used resemble it more than the main body he used and the early comic con trailer for AoU used an exact replica of his comic face. The main body he used with the teeth, the detailed expressions, etc. was awful.

His Spider-Sense was tingling user. If you ever read the comics, when something extraordinarily goes to shit, his spider senses are capable of throbbing so intensely that it'll give him a migraine.

Sort of like how if someone punches you in the liver, your body gets defensive and you fall down on your ass. He knew he was dying because he felt it happening.

Brie sucks, so I'm glad there's at least one last kino without her in it

Brainlet

>>Star-Lord pulling the trigger on Gamora in Knowhere did not happen in any of the drafts; it was Chris Pratt who insisted that he should do it.
>>Spider-Man’s death was no different than the other characters’ in the script, but Tom Holland was allowed to improvise on set and came up with Spider-Man desperately pleading to Iron Man that he didn’t want to die.
Based ideas, good for them. These are among the best and thematically significant scenes in the film.

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Moron

It's kind of amazing that every single scraped idea sounded really bad, I am very glad they wrote that crap out

If you liked the first watch it, if you didn't don't.

It's less than half a minute and he has spider sense, you retard.

This is the problem with casting soulless hacks like Brie, at the end of the day the actors make or break films regardless of script/ cgi/ director

Hulk emerging from broken Hulkbuster suit wasn't a bad idea

I don't think this would have been a good idea, and I like most of them fine, but regardless the mouse wouldn't have allowed them to a spotlight on the series that they were in the process of canning that only exist on a soon-to-be competitor's platform

>>>Star-Lord pulling the trigger on Gamora in Knowhere did not happen in any of the drafts; it was Chris Pratt who insisted that he should do it.
It was nice to see some characters in the film understand its better to kill one than to save them whilst letting the villain succeed with their dastardly plan. Cap had that moral autism but nice to see Quip-Lord and Strange understand that (only bothered to save Stark cause he knew giving up the stone means they win in the end).

Captain America and based black man running faster than everyone else should've been changed to Captain America and Winter Soldier running faster than everyone else. Universe and thematic consistency matters more than shoehorning some bs racebait shit to make black people feel better. Oh well, at least the most kino moment of the film is a blond blue-eyed God showing up in Africa to save the world when a bunch of Africans can't

It honestly would not surprise me if she's better under the Russo brothers. Strange surged in popularity cause they did something different with him that ended up being superior to how he was in his own movie. I can imagine Larson being better in Endgame.

I thought Winter Soldier is not a superhuman like Cap, he is just better trained

does bucky have the super soldier serum in him as well?

black panther is superhuman too

Yeah, not a comicfag but I assume he's been portrayed well just because I'd heard of him plenty and don't read the comics. It didn't seem hard to take the idea for him and make him seriously terrifying, but it's like they did everything they could to turn him into a Saturday morning cartoon villain. A rogue AI with access to all of Tony's tech, you could go anywhere with that.

But it is consistent. BP is established as enhanced like Cap and Bucky are and was portrayed as running about as fast as those two in Civil War, and Bucky hung back cause he was shooting the aliens from a long distance the whole time.

Never thought about it like that, I guess since they are being forced to use her they will try to minimize the possible damage

Did you guys even watch Civil War ? It's shown multiple times throughout the movie, directly and indirectly, that Bucky was one of the first super serum soldiers.

Wiki says he's enhanced like Cap and Panther. He was running about as fast as those two in Civil War as well. But he spent the whole fight shooting at the aliens long distance, so I guess that's why he wasn't running alongside them.

Once ultron got away he should have been effectively immortal. Vision locking him out to kill him? no. They didn't use ultron has an AI or robot at all. They play with none of these concepts and he's just a CGI villain. Idk wtf Whedon was thinking. Wish he just did Masters of Evil. He gave us Vision, which was nice, but not much has come from him.

How was Dr.Strange different in Infinity War? He quipped with Tony and used even stranger abilities. He just wasn't weighted down by a origin film and instead got to quip with the rest of the quippers.

They're fucked after endgame. I don't even know if endgame will work in all honesty. But with Captain America and RDJ leaving, guardians being thrown in limbo with a different director, and foot fungus being made the face of everything along with black pander, the soul of the whole thing is going to vanish. These aren't amazingly well-scripted films, they aren't great action films, they don't even have amazing cgi most of the time. What they do have going for them are the characters and they're about to flush most of their fun-loving and lovable big guns down the drain and replace them with hate-mongering, bitter, bitchy, charisma black holes.

Wanda and Vision, as well. This is why I'm worried endgame won't pay off. Quill fucks up in the end when he beats up Thanos but it makes total sense. If you didn't have the setup of him being protective of the women in his life and then the setup of him actually pulling the trigger on her, his losing control wouldn't make any sense. In any other film with any other character this would be the thing that would break the plot. But it works because of how well it fits with both his character as well as the movie's theme of sacrifice. Yet it'll all go to shit if this doesn't pay off for him, and other characters like him such as Strange and Wanda who made the tough choice while Captain America was moralfagging, in endgame. I feel like this might happen because of foot fungus being shoved into the film.

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Oh wow.

Almost all of these ideas are absolute dogshit.. Why would they ever tell anyone these embarassing ideas?

Fucking dodged a bullet.. No wonder shit like Captain Marvel got made.

His abilities were more fun and impressive instead of being mainly enhanced martial arts. Also he acted like a master instead of an extremely talented novice.

The problem is - there isn't much you can do with Captain Marvel as a character - and this applies to comics as well. In her movie she's so fucking perfect and awesome, that you'll need some serious rewrites to make something relatable out of her.
And I have a strange feeling that Larson might go Steven Seagal and throw a temper tantrum if her "feminist icon" is shown in a less than perfect light. And she has Feige's backing all the way through.
Just my suspicion.

Other than being much more competent and powerful with his magic, he had his own agenda the whole time. He told Tony flat out he's let him and a child die if it meant protecting the stone, and only bothered to save Tony in the end because he knew doing so means they eventually win. He had his own agenda and knew more than everyone else, and I've seen comicfags say, more than once, that Strange works best when interacting with these heroes, and I'm seeing similar things said of Captain Marvel.

Yeah he's got the super soldier serum. In fact, I think his is actually even more OP than Captain America's.

Pretty sure they all ran forward. Bucky and Captain America fit that moment way better either way.

haven't seen the first.

I'd like to see some of the described scenes that add more backstory and context, but they did make the right call in cutting it to keep the movie from being way too long. Would be neat to see the scenes about Thanos and his childhood though, stuff like that.
I also thought it was weird that they glossed over Thanos wiping out Xandar for the power stone and skipped past it like we were supposed to have seen it, but again, they could only cram so much into that movie.

nice digits

>Yeah he's got the super soldier serum. In fact, I think his is actually even more OP than Captain America's.
Not sure what gave you that impression. They're portrayed as having parity, with man edge being the arm.

Then why are you asking about the second? Gosh darn what is wrong with you

My hope is that she doesn't take front and centre stage. If you look up the screentime of all of the characters in IF, many get a surprisingly small amount. If she gets like 11 minutes, does one thing that moves the plot along somewhat, and is there for the battles with the main focus on Tony, Cap, and the rest, that's right. Extra points if she's in total awe of Captain America and defers to him (guy was a icon, and she doesn't know about his return). If she takes front and centre stages, shows up the rest as being her inferiors, deals the final blow to Thanos, etc. then yes, it will be shitty.

Yeah, this is what I was thinking. He's boring to the point that it's not even internally consistent. Whedon is shit.

I was looking forward to the thought of a new avengers lineup
>Black Panther bankrolling everything and his sheboon Einstein sister developing tech
>Strange and Thor looking after cosmic shit and being the wise old people in the group
>Vision and Wanda finally growing up into leader positions
>Bucky becoming Captain America and working with Falcon and Paul Rudd, while Spiderman and other younger people, maybe Shuri and even Cassie Lang, becoming the mid-tier team members
>Guardians incorporated into cosmic stuff and mixed up with the avengers in some way, with rocket giving them even better tech than wakanda stuff

Now I'm unironically out after Endgame. They set everything up with so much care but this faggot foot fetishist feige decides to go full retard at the last second. Shit like this has tanked so many franchises while Marvel kept chugging along that it's honestly hilarious to see him fall into the same fucking trap. We could have gotten a super comfy next gen avengers team but nah.

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Dude, in 2021 we can have fantastic four and x-men in films. They could do it for 2020 films, but I doubt they'll rush them.

I was gonna say that spider man will be something at least, but remembered that the best element in their take on it was the father/son relationship he had with tony, which is now gone.
Meanwhile DC pulled a sneaky with aquaman, lots of promise with shazam, and might even redeem suicide squad with Gunn. I cant believe it

There's a line in civil war about the serum that the winter soldiers were given being the most extreme version or something.

>while Captain America was moralfagging
I'm gonna guess that Cap finally cracks in that regard and comes around to the idea of necessary evils and sacrificing people for the greater good, probably shortly before he dies though since that's not really in his character. But Infinity War felt like it was all about how Thanos won because he made the hard decisions, and the heroes lost because they wouldn't, like Wanda not blowing Vision's gem apart at the beginning of the damn movie. Cap's gonna become Punished Cap and then die.

>one thing was supposed to happen, but then they couldnt figure out actor schedules and changed it
The whole thing sounds like its hanging by a thread/ rolling dice every time. Also watch that bebbit spacing doober

>Extra points if she's in total awe of Captain America and defers to him (guy was a icon, and she doesn't know about his return).
She will unironically make a joke out of Tony, Captain America AND Thor and you know it. No fucking way in hell they show get deferring to any one of the original three big guns. We'll honestly be lucky if they just don't get Luke'd for the sake of empowering her character, to be completely honest.

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Yes, the ones that were frozen and then murdered cause they were red herrings. Bucky was never given that serum.

>Extra points if she's in total awe of Captain America and defers to him

Not gonna happen. In a million years.
Also something, something, some male putting her down.
Have you seen Captain Marvel? She's not listening to anybody and is arrogant as fuck.
So suddenly her working with the Avengers and becoming a team player - I don't see that. Russo might turn that into a good character arc - but I don't think Larson will be down for that.

I always figured her role in endgame will have the same type of importance as Panther had in IW. Moments of showing off but nothing that takes away from anyone else.

Wakanda was retarded. If Thanos had some archers or musketmen he would have annihilated them.

>Russo might turn that into a good character arc
Well that's my point. The Russos are at the helm, not the shitty directors/writers behind Captain Marvel that are big on the feminism shit.
>but I don't think Larson will be down for that.
Realistically, what power does she have? The actors can express dissatisfaction with something (like Hemsworth did for Thor before Ragnarok) but what real power do they have? Surely it's bad for their career to throw a massive fit and spanner into the works.

No one cares about fantastic four and their whole aesthetic is trash. Reed Richards is a gigacuck from what I know and the whole family schtick would pale in comparison to what we've gotten from guardians and Ant-Man's films. X-Men would be a massive undertaking but I expect them to go full sjw with all their shit from here on out until they run everything into the ground all while wondering where they went wrong as RDJ sits to the side looking completely unsurprised. I heard there's a bunch of great villains they could use from Fox, like Doom and Galactus, so maybe there could be something there. Spiderman gives them a lot of good leeway too but venom was too successful so they won't get back full rights for those characters anytime soon. Honestly, Feige's been the one holding the fort this whole time with great decisions and smart moves. He's doubled down on some seriously shaky stuff in the past that ended up paying off. Even the black shilling for the Oscars is understandable. But this Captain marvel casting and his support for Larson is bizarre to the n'th degree.

Who gives a fuck what Larson wants? Who the fuck is she? You don't come onto the set of an established franchise barking orders as a newcomer. What that cunt going to do, run and give Feige another blowjob and get a new script? She can't tell the directors what to do and I highly doubt Russos or RDJ would allow this.

Okay? Who cares? Should've been him and his best friend running together.

Shifting goalposts.

>I'm gonna guess that Cap finally cracks in that regard and comes around to the idea of necessary evils and sacrificing people for the greater good, probably shortly before he dies though since that's not really in his character.
This makes no sense. Narratively your character comes back to their core personality in their final moments and die rather than compromise. In his case, it makes perfect sense that he'd repeat what he did with the bomber and sacrifice his own life. The only time you have a character do a complete 180 turn in their final moments is when you're doing something like Logan, where the story is about your anti-hero becoming a hero again. The climax has to be unequivocally moral and heroic, doubly so for someone like Captain America.

May be reaching, but in the few promotional bits of art released so far, she isn't at the front and centre at all. It has been either Cap or Iron Man flanked by more established characters like the rest of the original six. She's always further away in the background. So if you if put stock into that shit, there's a sign it won't become Captain Marvel 2.0.

If these posters are indicative of anything, she won't be the film's centrepiece.

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That's fair, I guess it just doesn't make sense to me to have Cap moralfagging yet again to the very end in Endgame when doing that is literally the reason they just lost in Infinity War. Like there should be some recognition of that and lesson to learn. Don't know how they'd write it though, or if they would.

>What that cunt going to do, run and give Feige another blowjob and get a new script?
Pretty much. She must be giving some godlike blowjobs, cause he is willing to go to war for her. The most powerful hero in MCU and all that.

Also, imagine the stink and drama that Larson and the feminists would create on social media. You know - with Russos turning an "empowered feminist icon" into a flawed being that needs to listen to a man and this somehow invalidates her character or something. You know she's capable of pulling that shit.

They lost because of the Time Stone. They done away with the 'we cannot sacrifice anyone' thing to the point Cap was trying to also hold Thanos off for as long as he could so Wanda could kill Vision.

Why are you so fucking obsessed with black panther getting a shot that clearly makes more sense for the guy whose death is connected to Steve the way Groot's is to rocket, Spiderman's is to Stark, panther's is to his lady general, and so on? What don't you get about the fact that it's more fitting for Bucky to run ahead with cap than panther? Are you a mutt or some shit?

i wasn't going to watch it for the plot

>although the Russos always had in mind to reinvent Thanos' motivations from an nihilistic infatuation with the embodiment of death to a misguided sense of purpose in saving the cosmos from annihilation.
Fuck Hollywood and fuck niggers

>Are you a mutt or some shit?
Christ, you're having this much of a sperg out because I'm not having a tantrum over Bucky running ahead and don't see an sinister conspiracy or inconsistency in BP running with him? Pathetic. I can only imagine how loud you must screech when you encounter something upsetting in the real world.

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>Falcon: "Freeway, rose, November, phone booth"
>Bucky: rolls his eyes. "Not even close."
>Falcon: "fountain, moose, Iowa, pie."
>Bucky: "You wanna know? You really want to know? Listen up."
>Bucky quickly whispers something in Falcon's ear.
>Falcon lunges at him, but is restrained by the other Avengers. "You mothafu..."
>Bucky, laughing. "Well, your trigger word wasn't hard to figure out!"

That's a fair point. I hope this is part of his arc in the movie. The end has to restore him to his core identity though.
>Tfw we'll get the foot fungus bitch subverting the OG avengers squad but we won't get pic related
>Tfw that bitch might end up being the one who says avengers assemble
Shit man imagine Captain America weilding the power of Thor and getting his chainmail costume because of it. Or imagine Tony weilding both the shield and Mjolnir to fight Thanos at the end. Fuck.

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She could be giving the sandiest blowjobs for all it matters, if she has ANYTHING on Feige even REMOTELY metoo-esque in nature, she seems like the exact type to hold it over his head.

Also she filmed Endgame before Captain Marvel made any money. I highly doubt she could throw her weight around on the set of Endgame to get more screen time or make creative decisions about the character. RDJ would not allow anyone to steal the spotlight from him. I'm sure the other actors would also be very angry if she personally did this. However Feige already forced her into Endgame and it really depends on what the Russos can do with her and how much she Mary Sue's her way through the movie.

>>Tfw that bitch might end up being the one who says avengers assemble
You're assuming the Russos and writers are THAT incompetent? Common man. They've been lowkey hyping Cap saying that shit for a long. The Russos and the writers aren't Rian Johnson, the director/writers behind Captain Marvel, or Whedon. Cap going "Ave-" only for Marvel to shout over him "AVENGERS ASSEMBLE!!!!" isn't some subversion shit I can see them pulling. Also, promo art makes it seem like Cap finally will get his scales.

I'll also add that the Russos have already acknowledged Cap didn't have too much spotlight in IW and have said he will have far more of a role in Endgame.

>keep nitpicking shit because some guy doesn't share your black fetish
>try to act like you didn't just spend like five replies missing the core point because of your autism
Take 30 alleve and report back about how you feel in the morning, user.

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Unironically based and you fucking know Mackie's cool enough that he'd be down for it kek

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>share your black fetish
The absolute state of this user. Pathetic, it really is.
>>your autism
>my stupid shit got BTFO, so I'll be a hypocrite and scream autism! That'll work

>A running gag in some drafts saw a mistrustful Falcon trying to trigger Bucky's brainwashing throughout their stay at Wakanda by saying random words that he believed could set Bucky off.
This would have been funnier than 95% of Marvel's quips for fucks sake.

I don't think they're incompetent. It's just the reports about Feige giving shit to cast members, the Russos, McFeely, even Bob Iger himself, all over his defense of foot fungus.

>n-n-no u
Find another thread to shit up, faggot, or cut the bs and slit your wrists.

>bitches about BP running alongside Cap being an inconsistency and sign of a negro fetish and Bucky not running alongside them
>gets explained why BP running fast isn't inconsistent and why Bucky wasn't running alongside them cause of long distance shooting
>asserts it's stupid by claiming Bucky is even stronger than Cap
>gets proven wrong so claims 'well that doesn't matter!' and shifts goalposts about how its thematically wrong and then rants on about autism and a black fetish
This is you. That's how stupid you are. Feel shame, faggot.

I thought IW actually had pretty good quips in some parts. The Thor-Quill bit was great at making me forget how Thor being understanding toward Gamora after finding out that she's Thanos' daughter was the most out-of-character thing he does in the entire movie

All this scripts were leaked here on Yea Forums months before Infinity War came out. How is it that no scripts from Endgame have been leaked here yet???

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there showing the people that died dumb dumb

That's the biggest reason that the Fox acquisition interested me. Aside from Spider-Man, Fantastic Four and X-Men have the best villains Marvel has to offer (Galactus, Magneto, Fucking DOOM, Apocalypse, Mr. Sinister, Sentinels, etc).

Well, the rumors are that Liz Olsen and Scarlett Johansson really don't get along with Brie Larson. So I wonder what happened. If anything.

>Five other anons in this thread disagreeing and arguing casually and this fag wants to shit up the thread because he's in some kind of gauntlet over this crap after missing the point like a turboautist
Man, you are one sad, obsessed, autistic motherfucker aren't you, you faggot? Kvetch harder, sadsack cunt.

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>Early drafts featured the Iron Legion as part of the Battle of Wakanda.

>Early drafts featured a longer and more ambitious battle between Doctor Strange and Thanos in Titan.

>>A running gag in some drafts saw a mistrustful Falcon trying to trigger Bucky's brainwashing throughout their stay at Wakanda by saying random words that he believed could set Bucky off.
Would of been good even if these are fake

Dr Strange was pretty interesting and based.

>Galactus
This guy is why I want Thanos to live, so he becomes totally broken, exiled, and despondent after his big defeat. Galactus is 'freed' somehow by the snap and is consuming planet after planet, so Thanos teams up with the earth heroes an uneasy ally to stop this threat that's simply destroying for the sake of satiating hunger. The 'villain teams up with heroes to fight a bigger villain' trope is one I will always love.

except had this notion in First Avenger where he sacrificed himself, Avengers 1 when he ordered to close portal while Stark was still in space, Winter Soldier when he shot down hellicarriers which killed all innocent civilians on the ground as well as all non-Hydra agents and almost killed Falcon and Widow if not for plot shield.

it's just writers know mcucks will eat up everything at this point, even if it's contradict previous movies.

That's the worst part of this. They've made a super powerful and well-liked female character that's grown from her experiences with the actual team, who has powers tied to the stones that are flexible enough to let writers power or depower her according to the needs of the script, and it's WANDA. Fuck feige for shafting her and starting all this shit over identity politics media coverage, honestly.

>i-it's five against y-you! not a samefag at all. I PROMISE!

Source: ASS

I haven't ever read fantastic four but every screencap I see of Doom's just makes him out to be the most based guy ever. I saw one a couple hours ago of him naming the Richards' daughter after saving Reed's family, vowing to protect her, and then roasting Reed for being a cuck that's too weak to save his own family. Unironically felt like the Virgin and Chad meme.

>But with Captain America and RDJ leaving

RDJ I see leaving. But Captain America? Nah I doubt it. RDJ is old, tired and wants to go fuck hookers and hang out in his hot tub for the rest of his life. So he'll retire.

But Chris Evans isn't done no matter how many times I hear him say he is done. He is now an American icon. People look at him on the street and see him as Captain America. He's the guy who made Captain America a badass superhero when in the past Cap was considered a lame superhero.

He will always come back and do "one more movie". While he works on his other movies/projects.

So maybe we won't see Captain America as often, but we'll always see him. He's the Adam West of Captain America's now. He's never letting that go.

>In fact, I think his is actually even more OP than Captain America's.
No, it's lesser. The serum was never recreated accurately and Bucky has Zola's bastardized version. Erskine's formula remains secret, not even Bruce could figure it out, and Cap is the only true success of that serum (Red Skull had an earlier version of Erskine's serum but it wasn't ready and he was a flawed candidate).

Imagine unironically giving a shit about the most vapid fad in film

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>>Early drafts featured a longer and more ambitious battle between Doctor Strange and Thanos in Titan.
Jesus Christ what more did they have planned? That shit was about as anime as you can get.

Yeah you're a legit schizo. There's five anons posting in the thread, away from your ramblings, you fucking retard, not replying to you. Keep chasing ghosts till it proves something to you, you delusional fucking dipshit.

>Yeah you're a legit schizo. There's five anons posting in the thread, away from your ramblings, you fucking retard, not replying to you. Keep chasing ghosts till it proves something to you, you delusional fucking dipshit.
Never join a debating team. Screaming about autism when getting BTFO or ranting on about a black fetish out of pure projection will get you thrown in a loony bin, not earn you any points.

>Jesus Christ what more did they have planned? That shit was about as anime as you can get.

The Russos have a lot of respect for the characters based on my observation. They know Dr Strange is an absolute powerhouse, so they probably had parts of themselves that wanted to have him as Thanos toughest fight.

He's one of the all time great comic book villains. He was one of Lucas' original inspirations for Darth Vader too.

I just want to see Rocket play off of all the remaining characters in Endgame.

>That shit was about as anime as you can get.
I still think it was kinda short, it was fun tho.

Fucking thank you. The amount of niggers who don't understand that once Thanos had the Time Stone, nothing else mattered on Earth, will never cease to disgust me.

>RDJ I see leaving. But Captain America? Nah I doubt it.
Evans is actually the only one who's announced it's his last film in the series so he's the one we know is out for sure. His contract's up, his character arc is just about done, and it's great that you're as passionate about him as you are, but none of that stuff is different from what's happened with most of the other characters either. As for RSJ, I REALLY hope they kill him off because it'll make NO fucking sense when he isn't at the forefront of whatever next major event happens if he's still alive and "retired" in universe. Unless they can rewire Brie Larson to be a completely different person, they'll last like 3 films without him before people start demanding he come out of retirement. They should honestly let him make some sacrifice and go out in one final great film. It's fitting. The whole series has more or less been his arc.

Oh damn, thanks. Been way too long since I watched that film and I don't know.

>picrelated
Here user, have a medal for winning this debate by scientifically proving the top speeds of avengers characters and your massive turbotard faggotry

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I still can't get over the fact that Captain Marvel is supposed to be the new face of Avengers and not Captain America. Who the fuck is this bitch anyway and why she deserves it over Bucky, Vision or Wanda?

Marvel Comics already made the mistake of retiring every single Avenger at the same time and replacing them with a "politically correct substitute" that showed up out of nowhere. So impoverished, black female Iron Man that's better than Stark in anything was a thing. And Thor was unable to use his birthname, because officially Jane Forster was now "Thor" and was much more worthy of Mjolnir than him. And readers hated that.

I have a feeling that MCU is trying to pull the same shit here.

The next cap will almost definitely be Falcon. Yeah Bucky has more of a claim technically, but the current iteration in the comics is Falcon - and it fits the diversity push.

>He was one of Lucas' original inspirations for Darth Vader too.
Never heard that before but it makes a ton of sense. From what I gather his whole schtick is that he talks a big game and he's actually up to it all and then some. Says he should rule the world and that's unironically true in-universe.

Mad fun

That fight was mad creative. It's great when you look at what stones thanos is using at different points to counter the different shit Strange pulls, like using the soul stone to find him among all the copies he spawns and then breaking his lasso spell with the power stone

>Thor being understanding toward Gamora after finding out that she's Thanos' daughter was the most out-of-character thing he does in the entire movie
how do you figure? he even explains his family relations later to the rabbit, in case you didn't understand where he is emotionally in the movie

Captain Marvel being pushed into the film won't affect Stark and Cap, they will still get plenty of screentime and will be the core of the film. The OG Avengers will be fine.

The likes of Wanda and Vision are fucked, though, as it's the "secondary" Avengers who will have their screentime given over to Captain Marvel, with Scarlet Witch being most likely to suffer if CM gets big moments in the third act (as Wanda's stuff could most easily be given to Carol).
Furthermore, Guardians 3 being in limbo means Quill might be low priority.

I want to hear rocket say
>What more could I lose?

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Dude's basically Iron Man, Black Panther, and Dr. Strange combined into one guy.

Go ahead and introduce this sociopath Riri Williams into MCU in place of Tony Stark, Marvel. I dare you.

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BP is enhanced by the herb granting access to Bast. Its a mystical version of the serum. BP is kind of a cross between Cap and Wanda.

Bucky sells more toys, he's more well-known, and he isn't a chinlet.

Sure. He's always been the most untrusting avenger though. He's always the first to go off and try to figure out what's going on when things go awry because he doesn't take anyone's word for it.

>>Thanos’ journey to the Soul World was darker in some drafts, including a seemingly endless river of blood which the apparition of Gamora claims is all the blood spilled by Thanos in his quest for the Infinity Stones.
Is Marvel allergic to kino?

As if woke Marvel cares about that.
Well, Iger might care, but he gets cucked out of money by Marvel and Lucasfilm on a daily basis.

>The likes of Wanda and Vision are fucked, though, as it's the "secondary" Avengers who will have their screentime given over to Captain Marvel, with Scarlet Witch being most likely to suffer if CM gets big moments in the third act (as Wanda's stuff could most easily be given to Carol).
>Furthermore, Guardians 3 being in limbo means Quill might be low priority.
Such absolute bullshit, man. They were so close to getting it all right.

That is fucking Lynchian and Kafkaesque. Like a look into the mind of a massively fucked up writer, or an amazing bit of unabashedly redpilled satire about these compulsive victims.

Why was there no real character interaction in Wakanda? They have pretty much the entire second Avengers team there yet we don't get to see them work as a team (which means we never got to see the team we saw at the end of AOU actually do their stuff).

Titan and Nidavellir have character moments, whereas every scene in Wakanda is exposition.

I think it makes sense because I don't want to see a muddy rainbow colored river of different kinds of blood kek. Plus, the short exchange ending with him saying "everything" was more impactful.

Literally the only blatant misstep they've made so far is shilling foot fungus, and that seems like a Feige problem, not some Marvel diversity committee issue. Falcon ain't becoming Captain America kek. They might just retire the captain america identity completely, but it ain't going to be falcon.

There seems to be deleted scene of this based on the trailers
>Bruce and Black Widow having a convo near the Hulbuster armour
>Cap and BP having a moment with Cap being given the shields and saying 'Let's do this'
>Black Widow, Rhodey, and Bruce standing together and looking up at the sky as the aliens arrive
They clearly filmed stuff never shown in the film, so why the hell don't we have them available as deleted scenes?

> Strange uses Bolts of Bolthakk and Images of Ikkon during the fight.

> When Strange uses Bilts of Bolthak, and Scarlet Witch lifts the saws, the same leitmotif can be heard.

They won't introduce THAT Riri Williams. They'll mix her with another character, and maybe try for that. I'm not really sure where the Iron Man IP can go, but Cap is surely tied up.

Go to bed ivan

Mask u sum tony

If they really want to go this bullshit "diversity" route, here's the tip. Give Rhodey a kid.

Make Black Panther's sister Iron Man. I like when the films do their own shit.

Imagine any man doing anything ever compared to a woman doing that exact same thing

The real victims of rape are the rapists

Let it go, Joss. It was a terrible movie

what came out was a lot better imo. If they had done the cap-iron man reconciliation, Adam Warlock shit, banner regaining his hulk powers, etc. they wouldve blown their load too early and removed much hype for Endgame.

How do you miss the point this much? Because no one in Tony Stark's life ever said he couldn't do sonething, right?

That's actually kinda cute.

>Star-Lord pulling the trigger on Gamora in Knowhere did not happen in any of the drafts; it was Chris Pratt who insisted that he should do it.
Excellent. This actually makes his motivation for losing control and lashing out at Thanos later on significantly better. Much, much better.

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I don't think the character tested well enough with audiences.

IM in its current incarnation with RDJ is a big personality. The actress who plays Shuri would not be able to carry that. If they really wanted a tech based character they could pull her into the bigger MCU with a larger role, but she'd be more tech support than one of the heavy hitters.

This would actually be better and could work well.

Tony Stark's never been a mouth piece for a writer with a massive chip on her shoulder and a pathological victim complex. Alcoholism sure but never this nog-tier lunacy. You're shitting the thread up with your same fagging. You should walk out and get raped to death, that'd be nice.

Imagine some random bitch showing up and her legion of catlady cunts acting like we don't already have Wanda while she gets shoehorned to the forefront of the series in a move that wrecks a decade of buildup. The world doesn't care about you enough to oppress you, roastflaps.

>Tony Stark's invents a bat shit crazy technology in order to work through his s feelings of inadequacy due to his father never believing in him

Imagine being this butthurt about a woman getting to do something

>You don't get to be oppressed anymore that's for white men only
Lmao

>Handful of anons make an overall solid thread
>Cunt with an axe to grind and anxiety over not being able to decide which bathroom to use shows up
>Immediately starts shitting it up

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Fun fact - this comic was written by a white male who tried to virtue signal to minorities, but failed spectacularly at that.
And yeah - Riri Williams is a type of lunatic that despite everybody telling her that she can do anything she aspires to, she runs around whining that she wants to be oppressed.
I don't think Stark ever did that.

Other than the schizo tranny samefagging and insulting everyone, this is probably the only good capeshit thread I've seen in a while

OOGA BOOGA BOOGA OOGA BOOGA SHOOGA BIX NOOD

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>MMMUUUUHHHHH BUGIIIIIINUUUUUHHHHHHH

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Depends. It's very different from Marvel's usual movies in that it tries to go for deeper themes of fatherhood and family rather than just being a mindless action movie, which was -- to me at least -- a very welcome change of pace. However, it's debatable whether it actually succeeds in what it attempts to do. In particular, it very often feels as if the movie is very insecure about its more serious parts. It never allows any potentially emotional scene to actually sink in but instead constantly undermines them with jokes and quips.

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I didn't like it when I first watched it because I thought the pacing was self-indulgent but the more I thought about it the more I realized it's one of the better films in the whole series. It's pretty much completely self-contained and incredibly thematically taut as a result. Some of the best acting in the entire series as well.

As a white man I get horribly iffended when anyone else gets to do things

>In particular, it very often feels as if the movie is very insecure about its more serious parts. It never allows any potentially emotional scene to actually sink in but instead constantly undermines them with jokes and quips.
Perfect description. Still worth it imo but this is exactly what I thought when I watched it first.

>aS A hUwiTe mAn i FeEL hOrRibLy ofFEnDed wHeN aNyOnE eLSe gETs tO dO tHinGs hUe hUE

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I agree. No one else should get to do things

>HOW DO YOU DO FELLOW WHITE MALES

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>I agree. No one else should get to do things
Except for what they're told

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So you think women should be able to do things?

Yes if only we didn't live in a society rise up

We don't know limts of the time stone so that's not a good enough argument

The things they're told to do, yes! For instance, you need to go fuck a chainsaw right now like snappidy doo, bitch.

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I agree women should not get to do things rise up we live in a society

Society is an invention of a patriarchy.
And an imaginary construct. We live in postmodern times.

>Hawkeye
>Thor
>RR
>Cap
>dead
?

>comfy fun thread
>retard tries to shit it up because he lost an argument
Get fucked you faggot

Cool.

that's not real is it? I just can't fucking tell anymore

>would originally feature the encounter and reconciliation between Captain America and Iron Man
You mean with Captain America getting the much deserved beating of his life.
Let the Hulk beat the shit out of Captain America and Bucky.
Best thing Thanos did was erase Bucky fuck that guy I'll never see him as anything but a badguy

It is a legit, unadultered, non-photoshopped Brian Michael Bendis for ya. This was supposed to be her "Batman's dead parents" motivation for becoming a hero.

And sad thing is - there are still worse Marvel comics out there. Like America Chavez. Written by a diversity hire that never read a comic in her life.

New trailer. Mostly recycled bust def some new scenes chopped in and clearly on an iMax screen
youtu.be/u1dc74iJMiw

Fake.

Go away, Tony.

not fucking cute. instead of that bitch saying 'okay cool, i can be whatever i want because of strong women, then i'll be like tony stark'.
but no. they 'had' to make the evil white woman say 'fine. you'll never be tony stark'.

some actually have a while ago. I used to work at marvel and they are firing a shitload of people due to leaks already even if they leaked something or not.

what exactly is the point, he's trying to convey?

I have no fucking idea.
Some suspect that this is his botched attempt at virtue signalling, while others claim that he's taking a piss and it is his cry for help, being surrounded by SJWs at Marvel Comics.

It's just a joke, bro.

NEW TRAILER FUCKING WHEN, IT'S ONE MONTH AWAY AND THERE'S ONE 2 MINUTES TEASER

>became a space gladiator
Wtf? How long is the time span between IW and the other movies? This is a pretty big event, you can't just say it happened offscreen

Around March 21st, after Empire Magazine's big Endgame cover story.

near the end of this moth but it won't have that much new footage. All the footage used in trailers are from the first 15 minutes.

Kek

Thor: Ragnarok
It's half Thor half Planet Hulk

Oh
Is it worth watching? Anything after iron man 2 was too much of a quipfest for me to care about

First third has bad jokes. Then becomes one if the best movies of the mcu.

Based retard
Watch it. Is good.

Hulk appearing right after Thor arrives would have made complete sense too. They could have even quipped it shouting Baby Arms. I want Ruffalo to fuck off along with Russos.

>Hela is revealed to be posing as Death
>doing to get revenge on Thor
>also play into why thanos killed Loki
I pulled this out my toilet and its better than marvels script kiddies

>he doesn't know about falcons backstory
>he still doesn't grasp that tony Stark is the routine of all the fanbois who flick to this movie (ie a giant man child)
>he didn't see the exchange between falcon and iron Man after said incident

It really, really isn't.

uhhh source

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