Will the franchise fatigue affect IX?

This. That's how the execs and media rationalize, when it's really that people are tired of them fucking everything up.

Probably not. It will make less than TFA but more than TLJ. Guarenteed

Last Film I cared about was Revenge of the Sith. And the last media I gave a shit about was Both Clone Wars shows. R1 is the only thing modern that I actually give cool points for. Fuck everything else is just a damn headache that didn't need to exist.

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>all this projection and denial
Yes, and Captain Marvel already flopped at the box office because """general audiences""" are totally aware of Brie Larson's annoying feminism that you guys bitch about on a weekly basis.
>I-I-IT'S GONNA FLOP CAUSE OF IT'S LEAD STAR BEING A CUNT! DO YOU REALLY THINK ANYONE CARES ABOUT THE CHARACTER!? YOU'LL ALL SEE WHEN IT HAPPENS!
And I'm sure those who will pay to see Ep. IX and make Disney another billion dollars are aware of the Yea Forums/r/saltierthancrait/ echochamber you'll built for yourselves.
>NOBODY CARES ABOUT STAR WARS BECAUSE EVERYONE (and I mean everyone) HATED TLJ + KENNEDY'S BULLSHIT SJW POLITICS! IT'S GONNA FAIL!
Keep acting like you're in "the know". We'll see what happens. You'll probably rationalize Ep. IX's success with "they're paying people to see it! It's not ACTUALLY making money!"
>ib4 DISNEY SHIIILLL
This board is getting more and more retarded, I swear to christ.

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Will Rey be buck naked?

Nothing in 8 sets up anything worthwhile for 9. Rian stole from 6 so much that it ended up feeling like the last. No one will care. No one will pay. They are fucked.

Do you really believe this without any shred of irony?

I don't care what you think about TLJ or Disney's treatment of (now) Nu-Wars: you must have a serve case of nigger-tier retardation if you honestly believe Ep. 9 will flop at the box office.

It will underperform compared to TLJ and TFA. Also, everyone will hate it.

>imagine being a sorry parent of zoomers
>kids demand you take them to see 20 Marvel movies and 9 star wars movies
>29x$20x4 family members
>$2320
>plus you add in all the shitty merchbux
>you spent around 3 grand to the mouse

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Nice troll. The majority of people honestly don't care. They'll see it anyway you dumb fucking nigger.

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After TLJ i dont know too many people IRL who care that much about Episode 9

Im sure it will make money since JJ is back, its the final in the trilogy. It will depend on what disney puts it up against

>The majority of people honestly don't care
That's the point. There is nothing to care after TLJ. They didn't even announce the title, because they still don't know how to market this shitshow.

No, but shitty movie fatigue will.

>They didn't even announce the title, because they still don't know how to market this shitshow.
"Star Wars IX: Fuck You; Pay Me" did surprisingly poorly with test audiences.

No no no no, you idiot. They don't care either way, even if they disliked it (and the majority of people don't really dislike TLJ to begin with user). They'll go see it because it's the last film and they can't really think for themselves. How is this so hard for you to grasp? I know you want it to fail, but that's not what's gonna happen. Accept it.

Once again
>implying general audiences aren't braindead enough to flock to the theaters and make a billion dollar movie out of fucking star wars
>implying the TLJ backlash was because of general audiences
You're setting yourself up for another case of Captain Marvel. But okay m8, believe what you want. Don't come crying to me when the Mouse makes another billion dollars.

This desu

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It's not fatigue. The movies were just fucking bad. TFA was already bad, and TLJ cemented that by being even worse. The spin-offs were pointless and nothing would've changed to overall SW if they hadn't been made. All that the mouse is seeing now is the consequence of making bad movies, putting some stupid political bias in front of having a good story, engaing characters and giving even the tinyest shit over fan expectations.

It may break a billion, but it won't pass TLJ, and it absolutely won't pass TFA. Not that anybody expects the latter to happen now. I doubt even Disney expects TFA-level numbers out of Ep9. They did that for TLJ (and lowball-speculated it at 1.9 billion), only to have it bend them over a table and fuck them raw in the ass. I'd expect Rogue One numbers, give or take a hundred million.

disney wars are pointless. i don't care what their relative success looks like.

Revenge did better than AotC, and that is worse than TLJ was

in terms of what

>This board is getting more and more retarded
You're a shining example of it.

In terms of acting, story, unnecessary pandering, CGI, action, cinematography.
I don't think TLJ is too far above AotC, it's my personal second least favorite, but AotC is undeniably worse

Yes, and Ep. IX will be a box office flop.

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>TFA
>2 Billion
>TLJ
>1.3 Billion
>Episode IX
>???
I would guess it's going to make less, it will still be profitable but they have an issue of Star Wars not being very popular in China. TLJ only made 42 million, that was with them trying to pander to the Chinese audience with Rose Tico. They have a loyal enough base that they will make money with the next movie, but it probably won't surpass TLJ because there seems to be some fatigue with the franchise.

I think you underestimate how truly big a $1.3 billion figure is. Even if Ep9 makes $900, that's still a fuckload of revenue from you, your retarded friends, and clueless parents who just go see it because kids or whatever.

- Ep7 had Harrison Ford and people were really excited about and initial feedback from the movie was quite positive thanks to JJ being a really good charlatan.
- Ep8 had Mark Hamill back as Luke Skywalker, getting people into theaters even after lukewarm word of mouth.
- Ep9 has... Rey, Kylo, Finn, Poe, Lando Calrissian, and Lightsabers.

Trailers and hype might change my predictions, but no Luke, no Han, and no story to finish. Only people really into Nu Star Wars are going to be excited about this. That's a lot of people, but it's not a billion dollars worth of people.

Episode 9 will make 1.6

>gets called out
>doubles down
Thanks for proving me right. No need to post selfies to further hammer it down.

the lower bound is Solo which made 392m.

it is DEFINITELY possible for a star wars movie to fail but they will do what they did with Revenge of the Sith and market it as a return to form after an underwhleming middle chapter.

This.

Of course, but I think the spin off movies are a little different, and solo was probably more of a symptom of how badly TLJ was received. I don't think the final chapter will flop, although it is possible, I just don't think it will make as much money as TLJ. The fatigue I would say comes from the characters who you are stuck with, if people didn't llike them much in the first two movies, they probably won't like them when they come around again in the third.

Won't have an effect on IX, but it will on future anthology films.

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>solo was probably more of a symptom of how badly TLJ was received.
What protects Icks from suffering from the same taint, user?

they just need to find a set of pavlovian marketing tricks to get people's hopes up that it will be different this time. what they won't do is just shove everything we expect into a trailer and hope.

I guarantee you that Luke's force ghost will be in the trailer delivering some kind of pseudo-twist-sounding dialogue. Hamill is the one thing untainted left so they'll do anything to get him to help them fix their mess. if that isn't enough they'll throw in anything else that might still work.

Ian McDiarmid is still alive, if I was J J I'd have him and Luke fighting as force ghosts in the trailer or some bullshit. I hope your anus is ready.

>New hope not in top tier
>Rogue in anything but low
>solo in anything but shit
>TFA in anything but shit
>nu-wars higher than ep2

Rogue is literally the only post-RotJ star wars movie that actually functions as a movie.

>I guarantee you that Luke's force ghost will be in the trailer delivering some kind of pseudo-twist-sounding dialogue. Hamill is the one thing untainted left so they'll do anything to get him to help them fix their mess. if that isn't enough they'll throw in anything else that might still work.
At this point, anyone who cares about the OT characters knows better than to expect anything good from the ST makers.
They could have a clip of Luke's ghost, R2, C3PO, and Lando flying a commandeered Star Destroyer straight at a Black Hole while Lando shouts, "This time we have to get it right guys." I still won't put a dime into seeing it.
They could have had the OT trio handing over the watch to a new generation in a series of films, using those films to make us care about the new leads. That I'd have paid to see. The ST I won't even watch for free. They better hope all those new fans pay off for them, this old one is out.

This movie is 9 months away and no trailer. I dont even hear many people talking about Ep9.

It will definitely have the taint from TLJ, but it's one of the movies in the series (the final chapter too), as opposed to an offshoot movie about Han Solo without Harrison Ford.

>they just need to find a set of pavlovian marketing tricks to get people's hopes up that it will be different this time.
Oh yeah I'm sure they are going to try to appease the fans a lot in this. Depending on how they do it (and as this is the final chapter for this arc) I could see it even making more than TLJ and fans (even fans disillusioned with the series) will probably be interested in seeing how it ends. Right now though we haven't really seen anything from this, but my guess would still be that it's going to make less than TLJ, because Star Wars has been trending downward in general. The question will really be how hard they try to pander to the fans and try to bring them back.

I don't expect anything until Celebration. They'll want the friendliest audience they can get for the initial attempt at buzz generation.

>fans (even fans disillusioned with the series) will probably be interested in seeing how it ends
Not this one. I'll give new Star Wars material another chance the next time it changes hands.

Franchise fatigue is a lie. It's crappy movies or good movies, that's all there is.

Yeah, personally I would be more interested in a new Trilogy because for me, I don't actually like any of the characters so I really don't care how it ends. But I feel they are going to try hard to win people back fans with their marketing push while distancing themselves from TLJ.

>franchise fatigue
Episode 8 was exhausting and killed the hype.

Define "franchise fatigue." It never seems to hurt Marvel when they release multiple movies a year, so I don't buy people getting sick of Star Wars itself. Now, the shitty boring nonsensical writing, that I understand.

But if your asking whether Disney will use this excuse, of course they will.

>post-RotJ
Achsually, it's pre-ANH

>But I feel they are going to try hard to win people back fans with their marketing push while distancing themselves from TLJ.
Do or do not; there is no try.
They will do anything that they think will put asses back in the seats, but it's too late.
>a new Trilogy
No thanks They squandered their one chance to do it well. For me, until the IP changes hands, Star Wars stopped existing with the sale to Disney. A new owner I'll give a chance; the current one, never again.

>Asdie from not having a prewritten plot

It still blows my mind they thought this was a good idea. That they could do a trilogy with the at the time biggest intellectual property in the world and just kind of wing it with the story.

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I'm not sure where your from, but I live in The United States where movie tickets are $10

>They'll want the friendliest audience they can get for the initial attempt at buzz generation
That could backfire

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cringe.

Is that the new bullshit they are pushing for why people don’t care anymore? They really went all in on the deflection for TLJ. This is like the 5th pr excuse. Went from the alt right, to Russian trolls, to nazis, to anti feminists, toxic man babies and incels, and now we have “franchise fatigue”.
All those people still going to see the original movies a million times, and buying the toys throughout the 80’s and 90’s, where was their fatigue?

My dad thinks it was a plot hole for the Empire to send out TIE Fighters to shoot down the Falcon in A New Hope when there was a homing beacon on it and they were trying to track the Rebels back to their base.

Help me explain this to him.

Fatigue would be if you didn't like the story and cast so far. You are locked in with the same cast, story, enemies etc. for another movie, and if you didn't like they before would you like them now?

Marvel has the advantage of having fresh cast for most movies (with the same hero and his friends, but different enemies and other supporting members, different stories and different struggles) that are mostly stand alone. Then they can even reinvent the characters because they are separate stories with loose tie-ins to an avengers movie.

Yeah, and that's where the fatigue sets in. I think their current direction for Star Wars has been bad, and I don't think it's really going to change hands, the best they could do is get new leadership at lucasfilms and maybe start a new trilogy, personally I'm not interested in anything star wars currently, I think the only thing that might make that change is a new cast and story.

Yeah, but it's all teeth and forehead though.

it'll make as much, if not more, than tlj

That definition of fatigue doesn't really explain Solo. I know the deck was stacked against it, but the final product didn't merit a fizzle. Had it come out before TLJ it's hard to imagine Solo doing poorly.

Our sequel was a steaming pile of shit that completely ruined the excitement and hype for these sequels, so lets blame everything we can think of instead of the steaming pile of shit we released.

>Yeah, and that's where the fatigue sets in
That's not Fatigue, that's Disappointment. I expected better handing of a potentially long running money maker like Star Wars from Disney's management. I got amateur night.

To be fair, the story group rubber stamped every single retarded thing Rian did, so admitting he fucked up big time would endanger their jobs and possibly risk a general Lucasfilm purge, so I see why they're in full denial mode.

even kids don't want to watch nu wars

It definitely wouldn't have done as bad as it did, but I wouldn't think a Han Solo movie though without Harrison Ford doing better than anything from the main Disney Trilogy, because he was that character. I really don't even know if Solo was worth watching, because I didn't have an interest in seeing it, it could have been fine, but maybe not like to the level of Rogue One (since that was kind of a novelty in SW, a spin off movie in Star Wars).

It's both, you are disappointed with the direction but you are stuck with it for another movie, the same heroes, same villains, same story, same vehicles, same outfits, same powers. So if you didn't like the cast or weren't fond of them you would get fatigue of seeing the same things yet again.

I don't expect any of the side films to do better than the mainline entries period. Rogue One came across as the best nuWars film but it doesn't have the same narrative draw for general audiences. That said, with the old cast practically gone I wonder how many people will actually get hyped for Ep 9. Probably depends on the trailer.

Yes, I'm gonna watch it because 2 movies in, I feel obligated to see how it ends, but unless they bring back the EU or starting making good games again, I think I'm done with the series.

>t you are stuck with it for another movie,
No I'm not. No one, not even I, has a gun to my head demanding that I see any movie.
>you would get fatigue of seeing the same things yet again.
Not seeing movies that don't have any appeal for me keeps fatigue from forming.

>return to form
>dead luke
>dead han
>dead/cgi leia
>over powered rey
>under powered gyno ren
>irrelevant poe, finn, rose plot
>shoehorned lando
This is where the fun begins

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Unless I hear some amazing word of mouth, a trip to wikipedia will satisfy my passive curiosity.

>I feel obligated to see how it ends
Fine, but don't pay for it. Doing that just tells them that the movies being made were the right movies to make.

they need to bring back the video games to keep people interested in the series
EA are fucking retarded

can you tell me what you're looking forward to without bringing politics into it? Despite what fringe groups might have said Captain Marvel didn't really have a political message, nor did Star Wars to the general public, Star Wars was bad, Captain Marvel wasn't.

Yeah, I think that's the only thing I'm interested in at this point is what they are going to try to do to lure fans back, I'm not actually interested in see the movie.

>No I'm not. No one, not even I, has a gun to my head demanding that I see any movie.
Not what I'm saying. I'm saying if you wanted to see a new Star Wars movie, you are stuck with the trilogy. The fatigue would be having to see the same thing from the first two movies again in the third chapter, if you were inclined. A new trilogy with new character might make things more interesting, but the fatigue would be with the current trilogy.

It doesn't even fit with the real star wars movies dumb fuck

Don't sell Lando short, imagine how this could go down
>Kylo Ren and Rey stare each other down across the battlfield
>before the fight can begin a dented Chrome ship lands between them
>faint echoes of disco can be heard as the ramp descends
>"BEN! IT'S ME UNCLE LANDO"
>"you did WHAT?"
>"Where's Han?"
>"Oh hell no, look you kids all take uncle lando's credit card and go get yourselves some space ice cream while I figure this all out"
The rest of the movie is Billy Dee Williams making old people jokes in space while he goes on an unrelated adventure.

>franchise fatigue
so they saturated the marked so badly somebody assigned it a brand new buzzword?

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It already effected VIII and Solo
Because there's nothing in IX to look forward to thanks to VIII.

Rogue One is the only one of the new films that really nails the Star Wars universe feel. Solo comes in second. TFA and TLJ come off like clumsy fanfiction written by people who watched the OT one time twenty years ago.

there is a possibility but I still think it will make 1.0 billion.

Solo didn't feel like a Star Wars film. And that movie couldn't even justify its own existence, just because it wasn't super trash of rehashed nonsense like TFA or soulless "subversion" of cliches like TLJ doesn't mean it wasn't bad. The entire opening sequence with the chase scene was boring as fuck and the dude that played younger Han didn't nail him at all.

>I'm saying if you wanted to see a new Star Wars movie, you are stuck with the trilogy.
The "you are stuck" is where we part company. I really wanted to see a new Star Wars movie, until I did. Once I saw what was on the table, I paid for my drink and left.
A new trilogy with the same people at the helm won't even get me to swipe a free copy. You can call that "Lucasfilm Fatigue", if you want, but it isn't fatigue. Instead, it's expecting people and corporations to keep living down to my expectations.

They're starting to make the case for shoving SW into the vault for a long while, long enough to have people forget how badly the sequel trilogy treated them.

I wish this would be so kino

>fatigue would be with the current trilogy.
why the fuck do zoomers, sjws and trannies always try to change the definition of words?

I don't give a fuck. It doesn't fit with the real star wars movies. Fuck r1 and fuck you.

they aren't changing the meaning, fatigue is being tired with

People were never tired of star wars they just hated what disney did to it.

But I'm not tired of Star Wars, user. Hell, if my insomnia kicks in tonight, I'll probably reread the Kenobi novel to see if I'm right about it not contradicting any of the new canon and being a good basis for a stand alone movie.

they said "fatigue would be with the current trilogy." that's not changing the meaning of the word are you not tired of the current trilogy?

Calling it "Mouse Fatigue" instead would be a good phrase to use whenever someone tries to push the "Franchise Fatigue" excuse.

No, I'm disappointed by the sequel trilogy. The only fatigue I am experiencing is "Excuse Fatigue."

Actually, all three trilogies completely differ in tone and complexity so making that assertion is blatantly ridiculous but I can see that you're a retard with no real arguments.

This, honestly. The higher ups at Disney and Lucasfilm acted like the movie release schedule period was the problem when that's blatantly untrue.

Im not tired of it, i hated it from the start. If anything i love seeing disney make fools of themselves at this point. george and mark are heroes and always will be.

>when that's blatantly untrue.
Especially when they set the damn schedule.

The real srar wars movies tell a complete story that fits together, regardless of tone, actors or special effects. The events of r1 do not, it had a decent star wars veneer but that's about it.

>Will the franchise fatigue affect IX?

There should have been only two films - ANH and ESB. Every film in the franchise has raced downhill ever since. We were told by Kathleen Kennedy and JJ Abrams that TFA was an all new and groundbreaking story in the series. Instead, we were given an intellectually lazy remake of ANH. We, the audience, were defrauded. And then we were insulted for expressing our feelings as a result of being defrauded and subjected to a bland movie. Star Wars lost a huge portion of its audience at that point. There is already so much competition for entertainment time and money that it was dumb for Disney to try to sell a bad remake of ANH and to allow its producer and director to insult the audience. Disney went further by cramming current far-left political ideology into these movies while making it a point to the audience to see the movie because of its politics and not because of its filmmaking merits.And then we were insulted by the writer/director for expressing our displeasure at it all. People aren't just fatigued by Star Wars. People have moved on to places where the entertainment is of higher quality and doesn't ask you to endure political propaganda in the process.

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Its so funny to see all these liars on here talking about how they had no excitement for VII whatsoever. Bull fucking shit. Everyone was excited about it. You just didn’t like it.

>Its so funny to see all these liars on here talking about how they had no excitement for VII whatsoever.
Odd that you couldn't link to any.

Have sex, please

Again, there's really no such thing as franchise fatigue, you can keep a franchise going uphill as long as you give people enough reason to support it.
This so-called franchise fatigue is just a way to shift blame to viewers and bad scheduling instead of marketing blunders and the film's overall quality.

I’m stealing that.

didn’t miss episode 3 so I can’t see myself avoiding the end end of Star Wars here

I liked TFA, loved rogue one, I hated TLJ.

Like I've said before, just don't pay for it. Every dollar you give these clowns is a vote in support of what they've made.

Man, shut up. You're boring

No.

But after this sequel trilogy is over, the franchise is over for good.

nigga no one's gonna read all this shit
take smaller bites

I expect more people will go to see how it ends, it also has the benefit of having been two years since the last movie seeing as no one saw Solo, so I don't think people will be as fatigued anymore. I've barely seen any Star Wars marketting in the past six months and I imagine Disney knows they're gonna kill the franchise if they push it too much.

>I expect more people will go to see how it ends
We can read how it ends without spending a dime, user. Don't be part of the Excuse Fatigue brigade.

>You're boring
hole or wannabe hole detected

This.

add zoomers were a mistake

>fatigued
Give it up shill

I have a coworker who's a typical bearded söyfag who keeps defending Star Wars whenever we talk about movies. If that's the only excitement it's generating, I can't imagine normies giving a fuck about Star Wars 9.

What the fuck is that font?

800m - 1b
People saw TFA because it was the start of a new trilogy. They saw TLJ because they wanted to see the next chapter. Whatever people thought of TLJ, people are still going to want to see how the trilogy ends because they've already invested their time into 2/3 of a trilogy and they're going to want to see the big finale of it. People thinking its gunna make SOLO numbers are fucking stupid.

>they presumed that the character archetypes of the OT could be copypasted the same way lightsabers, stormtroopers, etc could be.
They didn't, though. They shat all over the archetypes. JJ wanted his fanservice bullshit which meant making Rey a Mary Sue, which means she doesn't function like a hero is supposed to, which winds up fucking over Kylo as the shadow archetype. Rian wanted his retarded Luke arc so he fucked over the Mentor archetype. And so on. It's not just that it's copypasted, it's copypasted carelessly with no understanding of what is being copied.

>people are still going to want to see how the trilogy ends because they've already invested their time into 2/3 of a trilogy and they're going to want to see the big finale of it
If the goto argument for Icks doing well is the sunk cost fallacy, Icks truly sucks.

Idk, I know people are saying they won't see it but probably will anyway. I have no plans to see it, but if my friends invite me I might go. Such is the way of things. Maybe Star Wars really is too big to fail.

>story
nope.
In terms of story, TLJ is not only way worse, but worse in precisely the kind of way that makes people not interested in seeing the next one.
>unnecessary pandering
Retarded point. Not only did TLJ have pandering, that it lacked in pandering it more than made up for in undisguised contempt for the audience and Star Wars.
>action
What action in TLJ? As hard as it is to believe, AotC's action scenes absolutely fucking blow TLJ out of the water. This one isn't even close.
>cinematography
Only if you're easily-impressed by the appearance of art without the substance. Consider that first scene where Poe faces off against the Dreadnought. The framing shows the Dreadnought looking tiny and insignificant immediately after being framed as a deadly fleet-killer that we should be afraid of. Whether it's careless or misguided, it's not a good shot.

AotC is boring. TLJ is try-hard. AotC actually succeeds at depicting a number of complex action scenes while TLJ fails all of them.

>Sneed Trek XII
>So Formerly Chuck

I said I wasn't going to see TLJ, and didn't (until it came out on Netflix)

They'd need an interesting hook with Rey and Kylo, our only real characters of the new set. And my hopes for something different and interesting were subverted.

It'll still make dosh. Holy shit are people stupid.

>they wanted to see the next chapter.
they wanted luke

>Ep9 has... Finn, Poe,
I don't think they'll even be too relevant this time around after how much TLJ reduced them to background noise. Ep9 needs to take up to 30 minutes of screen time just fleshing their arcs out again.

Doesn't help that everyone knew about their production issues, which included hiring a fucking acting coach for their lead (who I understand did just fine in the final product).

This is just soul-less corporation blinders. EA makes the same category of product as the Mouse, so the Mouse feels safe cooperating with them.

You misunderstand.

TLJ had a 148 million dollar drop off in box office from weekend one to weekend two (67.5% drop), the largest dollar amount ever, for any film
For reference, TFA dropped off 98 million from weekend one to weekend two, or 39.8%
>People saw TLJ once and said never again
>Solo bombed
>Not a peep about RJ trilogy from anyone but RJ, 0 details provided
>All other spinoff films delayed or canceled
>Media blackout, still no teaser for IX

Yea totally trending in the right direction. Gotta feel great about being a SW shill right about now

fuck off reddit

AotC shouldn’t be in the same category as TLJ. It was a masterpiece compared to Rian’s trash film.

It's kind of interesting how the middle movie is the best one in the OT, the worst in the PT, and the worst of the franchise in the ST.

Episode IX will be tailored to be catnip to normies.

It will be impossible to escape marketing for it come April.

Disney will buy more tickets than they did for Captain Marvel.

This movie will reach a billion.

>Disney will buy more tickets than they did for Captain Marvel.
I wonder if Michael Mouse is gonna bribe Rotten Tomatoes again.

It isn't fatigue, but the fact that they managed to disenfranchise their viewer base.

Maybe they'll stop beating around the bush and finally dump the user scores altogether.

I wouldn't be surprised if IX made more money than TLJ because the world is full of retards, but I really think they tainted the franchise with so many shit movies.
Compare IX to Endgame. We all know both are going to be shit. It won't close anything, just open for the next episode. But I'm interested to see how Endgame ends, I couldn't care less about IX.

>people will go to see how it ends
TLJ was already an ending.

Reminder the tranny mod git exposed and freaked out

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Without Luke, I don't fucking care. I have seen every SW movie in the theater. Unless JJ pulls off some miracle and finds a way to not only bring Luke back and manages to wipe out Rians's treatment of the character, I'm out.

God, if you make this true I'll devote myself to a monastery for life.

Reminder the tranny mod is a reylo protecting a thread right now
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It would have been even more obvious that they were tracking them if the Imperials had let them go without sending a token amount of TIE Fighters.

Even with them sending out the TIE's, the fact there were not that many of them for a station of that size made Leia wise to it.

What fucking world are you living? If Disney make a truly great film they deserve the money. But the market has spoken, TLJ made 700 million LESS than TFA. People can be stupid but assuming Ep9 is gonna break a demonstrable trend is misguided

>there seems to be some fatigue with the franchise

Why

>My dad thinks

It clearly appears that your dad does not.

If they're lucky it will do about as well as Rogue One.
The drop off from 7>8 was huge despite the cock-tease that was the last scene of ep7.
The end of 8 created a fairly decent sense of resolution, with little-to-no dangling plots or arcs to interest the audience; the only expectations are the ones that come automatically from a Star Wars trilogy.
The only bait they have for episode 9 is a fat old Lando and perhaps the morbid curiosity of what they're going to do with Carrie Fisher's corpse.
They don't even have a hot chick to oggle at.
Knights of Ren?

However!

JJ is a notoriously slimy jew hack and there's a decent chance he can MysteryBox(tm) the trailers well enough that people feel the need to go and watch it.
We know that he's brining back the blockade-runner from New Hope (or something similar), so he's probably still in the "milking nostaliga" mind-set.
Maybe he'll find a new teet to pull.

All that is guaranteed is that the film will be shit. Entertaining shit at best.

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Disney are "incredibly satisfied" with EAs treatment of the Star Wars licence.

To this day i do not know the names of the characters from R1, let alone their lore.

And im someone who knows KDY were the manufacturers of the TIE fighter

>premiere is six (6) months away
>no one knows the name
>no one has seen the trailer
>countless re-shoots

I worked on films before (nothing as big as mouse) but this is a huge red flag.

The word fatigue implies the problem is on the audience side, and not with the content creators

Disney's marketing department thinks it's good to that they are "incredibly satisfied", but considering the fuck-up that was Battlefront 2 and the cancelled games, I have to think they're a bit annoyed.
I wonder how much Disney gets a cut of sales. If they just got a massive payment for the lucence up-front it would be hard to be too dissatisfied.

>good to that they
*good to say that they

AOTC was fucking kino you shill

RotJ contains the greatest scene in cinematic history perfectly concluding the hero's journey with the redeeming of Vader

yes the ewoks were stupid

>franchise fatigue
MCU released 2 movies in 2008, 2011, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016 and 3 movies in 2017, 2018, 2019, but people are still not tired of them

Disney renegociated the EA contract, they have exclusivity until 2025. Disney actually like what they've done

I was excited, but quickly soured on a film that literally copies ANH beat for beat except with a Mary Sue instead of a young naive protagonist who needs help from his friends and mentor. Rouge One was a decent if unnecessary and forgettable movie (Vader's scene was cool though fuck the haters). TLJ was a complete trainwreck that has likely done irreparable damage to the brand. I went and saw Solo but god help me if I can remember a single thing about it other than the retarded way he got the name "Solo"

Star Wars (or A New Hope, call it what you wish) is IMO the best star wars movie, but it at least deserves to be in top tier

When I was a kid I thought I'd never get bored on Star Wars. Then the prequels happened.
After that I came to a conclusion it should have been left on the first three, preferably first two.
The release of the first Disney Wars cemented that opinion, as while I didn't hate it, it was fully forgettable.

the parts where vader and luke interact were really the only good parts of RotJ

Disney doesn't want to take any attention away from Endgame

This desu, I expect the trailer to drop on Endgame's premiere night or some shit like that just to guarantee a fuckhuge opening

Indeed, the rest of the movie is just padded toy commercial.

People get confused about RotJ because it has some of the best scenes in the saga, but as a single film it lacks coherence and has far more flaws than NH and ESB. It is both the best and the worst (though mostly the worst).

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But I don't like RotJ
Actually the first 2 are the only ones in the entire franchise I give more than 6/10

How scared are they?

>doesnt like SW
>posts in SW thread

Why are you here

If TLJ was so bad it helped kill Solo, it will help hurt this also, is anyone excited for the third film following two movies which are aotc tier.

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>He thinks people on Yea Forums of all places have seen the movies they talk about

It's a giant, bland Disney product that they'll spend as much marketing as they did making.
It's going to make 2 billion dollars and cement another two dozen sequels that will all make a billion dollars each.
It's never, ever going to go away. Stop wishing for capeshit to die, because it never will and you're wasting your breath. All you can do is try and ignore it.

>franchise fatigue
I'd be fatigued too if I had to sit through four bad movies in a row. People aren't tired of Star Wars, they're tired of garbage dressed up like Star Wars.

The only thing Star Wars I care about anymore is the final season of Clone Wars, which we already know is the previously unfinished episodes.

it will do well at release, probably with some meddling by Disney's hand, but outside of that? dead franchise..

Saw Star Wars in 1977 and followed up to TLJ , I have no interest in the Skywalker saga, he got turned into an unfeeling tosser and is now dead..I have no interest in seeing Rey beat Kylo for the umpteenth time, don’t give a shit about Rose or the janitor, Finn...I thought Stormtroopers where programmed as pure solders, Finn is a fucking janitor, he could of been an awesome character instead he’s the token black guy..there’s no threat, no bad guy just a raving man child, yeah not on my top 10 movies to see this year

>I doubt it will pass the 1b mark
Chinks, niggers and poos will get it across the finish line.

It will make over a billion, it’s the end chapter and /TV is always wrong...sad times my friends

>I doubt it wil pass the 1b mark.
this is what incels actually believe

Not franchise fatigue, just garbage movie fatigue.

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Fuck outta here.

People will see it just because "it's Star Wars" or "I have to see how it ends." China will make up for any losses domestically. It will be a financial success, even if it lags critically.

>China will make up for any losses domestically
China doesn't care about Star Wars at all, every Star Wars movie shown there has been a disappointment.

you mean like Han Solo?

>aotc

It was kino

Jesus, you are a dedicated dick sucker for the Rat.

Even people who liked Rehash Awakens hate Last Jedi. Don't expect them to show up.

This movie will not flop but i doubt it will make 1 Billion

>even kids don't want to watch nu wars

This. 100% this. No kid is talking about star wars. If it's not based on a comic, kids these days don't care and if they're wearing starwars paraphinalia it's because of their soi parents. Bear in mind the starwars merchandise sales are so low they're the sole cause for a drop in disney merchandise sales for the past two years. The only teenagers excited for starwars are the ones who grew up watching episode 1-3 on dvd's and they're aware that it's just not as good as marvel.

The most hardcore fanbase, the millenials, are the ones who have stopped caring. A minority are wanting to boycott it and excitement in general is low. It'll be the only blockbuster in the cinema and it's priority won't be a day one ticket sale. The boomers and Gen Xers who grew up with the OT will go see it once because they liked the OT. You won't be getting the same effect that TFA had where people will see it multiple times.

The only people excited for ep IX are the soiboys who think the ST is good but still didn't go see solo.

>China will make up for any losses domestically
see
Star Wars has made progressively less money in china each film. TLJ was pulled in theatres after a few days. Solo didn't even show in some theatres.

Marvel showed that franchise fatigue isn't real. If you give people what they want, they will buy. If you piss on them, like the 7 and 8 did, you lose old customers. The question then is: will you get enough new ones to make up for the loss. On the SW franchise, the answer is no.
I still think it will be a box office success, but a far lesser one than it could have been if the jar jar abrams crew wasn't hired in the first place.
The 9 could be good. There are still elements that have not been used so far, like the Republic. Or surprise guests like the Mandalorians. But problem is, the cast is a disaster, none of the main actors having an ounce of talent or charisma, and it will be hard to fit a full plot into one movie. It will be rushed, it will be awful, it will score less than it could and it will bring more than a billion in the mouse's pockets.

R2-D2 has the rebel plans and he's on the Millenium Falcon

Destroy ship = no plans, no attack on death star
Let ship go = Destroy rebel base, risk of death star attack

It's a win/win. And they somehow lost.

>The boomers and Gen Xers who grew up with the OT will go see it once because they liked the OT.
No I won't.

>ROTJ in same tier as Phantom Menace
Just move New Hop and ESB to God Tier and put ROTJ and ROTS in top tier by themselves

this is the correct answer

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>imagine being so deluded that you honestly believe the final chapter of a canonical star-wars trilogy won't surpass a billion at the box office.
You're all retards for thinking this won't make over a billion, regardless of its quality or how much nu-wars has let us all down.

V > III > VI > IV > I > II > RO > Solo > VII > VIII
retardniggers will dispute this

I fully expect Episode IX to feature the destruction of the Falcon. It would be the perfect cherry on top of the huge middle finger the new trilogy is pointing at the OT.

V > IV > III > VI > I > II > VII > RO > Solo > VIII

Not only that, but the remains of Vader's helmet that Ben has will either be turned into ash/dust, or just tossed away like a piece of trash.

>Because there's nothing in IX to look forward to thanks to VIII.
How about the end? We can look forward to the end of it all.

Why is animation included? Are you a child?

>the end of it all.
The ST will end whether or not people go to see Icks. Disney will keep making bad SW films forever, though, so expect the beatings to continue until the fans come back.

Endor scenes without ewoks and Han Solo rescue operation are ok. Darth Vader, Emperor and Luke interaction are the best thing produced in the entire SW franchise.

impossible to make those numbers with weak showings in Asia and Latin America.

This isn't Marvel period. SW audience gave Solo the finger which never happens to even the most inconsequential Marvel movies such as Ant Man. Also, men were the biggest audience for Captain Marvel so that's saying something. they bitch but they also buy tickets. too much talk, zero walk. SW fans actually walk the walk as Solo bomb shows.

The ewoks weren't stupid, the issue is that the execution wasn't quite there for the Endor battle and made the Empire look weaker than they should. For example, it made stormtrooper armor appear to be 100% useless against fucking slingshot pellets. But that's just a few scenes here and there. Anyone who thinks the Ewoks are bad because they are cute is just an insecure manchild.

>Marvel showed that franchise fatigue isn't real.
Fuck off, I'm tired of these movies. That is fatigue. But I guess it doesn't count if it's not happening to everyone.

also brand and expectations. If The Last Jedi had been an original IP it would have flopped.

OK user but seriously, you don't see the difference between being fatigued after 22 movies over 10 years and 4 movies over 4 years?

>Fuck off, I'm tired of these movies. That is fatigue
there was a point where you were in to nu wars?

Ewoks aren't cute, they're ugly fucks.

Kylo and Rey are twins, this is the secret Leia has kept all this time [,spoiler]

>That is fatigue
That's right, user. You're the problem with post sale SW movies.
No, that's wrong, user. Stop helping the people who created the Snorequel Trylogy shift the blame for its shortcomings onto the audience.