I just want the capeshit to stop. Please. I just want movies to be normal again.
I just want the capeshit to stop. Please. I just want movies to be normal again
Good movies are still being made. You just have to ignore the shit for the lowest common denominator.
no
>imagine being this assblasted about capeshit
unironically kys
James Cameron?
Capeshit is the future, manbabies will continue to support it so they can dress up and fly around their apartments in their favorite superhero costume.
same
>not being assblasted over talent and money being wasted on these flicks
Maybe this is not the board for you.
iktf op
>good movies are still being made
>good music is still being made
>YOU JUST HAVE TO LOOK FOR IT
You know what, fuck you buddy. back in 1999 I didn't have to "just look for it" because good movies were everywhere and even decent music was more commercially viable pre mid 90s.
have sex
>an industry in which the consumer literally just fucking sits there
Take up a craft or trade to get emotionally invested in, you stupid redditor
Don't worry, it's all downhill aver Avengers: Endgame.
I'm thinking it will fall off after Avengers: Endgame
take your own advice fag
Blame the manchilds who buy tickets.
>Endgame-is-the-end-of-capeshit-mind
>imagine not being able to watch anything more than a capeshit without your braincells imploding
I need good movies to get my friends off of this rent-a-redbox-blockbuster kick.
Any "gateway" movies in mind?
>not writing a 20 page essay after watching every film
Go back to /flicks/
Thank you, I'm so sick of these fucking apologists gleefully accepting the intentional decimation of our art & culture in the name of profits
ffs I'm not even assblasted. I dgaf about capeshit, it's like it doesn't exist to me, and that's what's depressing. Like 9 out of 10 movies are non-movies to me. jfc like this user said just a few years ago decent movies where everywhere. Now it's all capeshit, some pretentious indie crap for hipsters, and the odd good movie. Sometimes when a random 90s movie comes on tv, not even a very good one, I'm amazed how fun and entertaining films can be, and I remember why I got so fond of cinema in the first place. Now it's just a sad extension of some superhero franchise I couldn't care less about. There used to be like 2 or 3 movies a month that ranged from decent to very good. Now there's 2 or 3 a YEAR. It's so fucking depressing.
Yeah ~arthouse movies~
What if I want to enjoy a well crafted blockbuster?
Can I really just type in "arthouse move" and get a good result?
Most arthouse movies aren't good, they're hacky as fuck and just appeal to contrarians.
Film is by definition a popular medium. A truly good film is entertaining and popular, all the while well crafted and with some artistic value to it.
Capeshit and arthouse are opposite extremes, and they're both shit for different reasons.
I like how 20 years ago that was the answer for people that liked comic related stuff...
I understand what you feel BUT this guy is right. Good movies are still being made. They are just more difficult to find because of the evolution of shilling and media bombing. When every forum talks only Captain Marvel or Star Wars, when every social media talks Captain Marvel or Star Wars, when every normie friend or coworker you know talks Captain Marvel and Star Wars it really seems as if that´s the only stuff being produced...
It´s also tiresome to not being able to talk about serious movies anymore (unless the ocasional oscar baits) because people don´t seem to care about actual drama or can´t really analyze film to speak of techique and aesthetics.
Still, if you can recognize the good directors and actors and you look them up every now and then on MDB you´ll probably find some good movies.
>imagine not shutting the fuck up about things you don't like, and watching things you like, instead. investing your time and what little brain power you have into crying like a little bitch about something popular you dislike, instead of occupying yourself, and promoting, something you like
>don't watch capeshit
>go to discuss not-capeshit
>thread pushed out by capeshit in minutes
Tom Cruise exists
make an interesting, well constructed thread, then
but nooooo everything has to be memes and one line OPs and no effort zoomerposting
well guess what faggot, that shit only works for content that is ultra-mainstream
if you want to talk about something less mainstream you have to put actual effort into your posts
There are much fewer good movies being made, see It's not just about what I read here, and I don't even have normie friends. I keep up with what's playing in cinemas, and I only find worthwhile films every once in a blue moon. I actually love to go to the cinema, but it's so hard to find a movie that's worth it.
So far this year I've only seen The Old Man and the Gun and The Mule in theatres.
The last Mission Impossible was quite entertaining in a very classic way. God bless that crazy motherfucker giving us consistent funkinos.
>make an interesting, well constructed thread, then
You are delusional if you think that doesn't get ignored for provocative threads.
>Most arthouse movies aren't good
Film just is, it isn't shit or good. If you say it's shit, that's because your current self is only able to absorb that much out of it. Much like a 8 year old wouldn't be able to understand the themes in Kubrick's films, your current self isn't able to see the film for what it is.
Think of a yourself as a Somalian now, what kind of films would you be watching mainly? Griffith? Sjöström? No, you'd be lapping Stallone & Schwarzenegger. The cultural sphere you're in, will influence greatly what films you watch and how you perceive them. Why are Bollywood films looked down upon the in the west? Are they shit? No, they just are.
Film is a clean wall and your opinion is a spray can.
i've never seen an engaging thread about non-capeshit or old 80s blockbusters or whatever the people who whine about capeshit want to talk about
if you post a thread about a non overhyped, or old, movie you want to talk about and the OP is some empty quote, some brainlet question, or a retarded meme about jews or whatever, then of course no one is going to post in it
>Film just is, it isn't shit or good. If you say it's shit, that's because your current self is only able to absorb that much out of it.
typical plebtalk. Films can be objectively assessed as good or bad to a certain degree. There's always some subjectivity to it, but there can be clear criteria.
Then there's the thing about personal preference. But a true kinoisseur can keep apart his preference from his objective evaluation.
Most arthouse is objectively bad, because it just goes against many of the structural elements that make film entertaining, and they don't make up for that with other values (like a comedy with a bad story can still be entertaining because of the comedic value, etc.). And a film that's not entertaining is objectively bad. But it will still be praised by contrarians precisely for its contrarian values of going against what is established as good structure. That's why it's by definition pretentious, it pretends to be deep, but it's not, it just goes consciously against what we know about what makes a good movie good.
>t. film academic, I studied this stuff for 4 years
I've seen lots of good threads like those. I remember one thread about how many good movies came out in the 90s, particularly 1995. It was a list of like 20 or 30 films ranging from good to excellent. In one single year.
I feel like endgame will be the grand finale of capeshit being mainstream
everything after it will suffer the fate of the average DC movie
My friends are watching Instant Family right now because you wouldn't fucking suggest something better.
Endgame will be a decisive film, without a doubt.
Hopefully, but I somehow doubt it. They'll come up with some other bullshit as long as manchildren keep throwing their money at them.
It's never going to end. Hollywood will just reheat some other franchise. Life isn't getting better people. YANG GANG
>1999 was a good year for cinema
kill yourself, fucking idiot.
Why do these movies look so grey and muddy and dour? Is that how the fans like it?
>Sixth Sense, Toy Story 2, Austin Powers 2, The Matrix, Tarzan, and The Mummy
Looks like a good year to me, fag.
>And a film that's not entertaining is objectively bad.
I remember when watching Come and See, I was a little distraught, at the end a little emotional. By all accounts, it wasn't entertaining, does it mean it's shit?
When watching Hard to be a God, I felt this uneasiness, like I was being constricted and had to breathe hard. Those 3 hours were very uncomfortable for me, in no way would I call my time with the film entertaining. Does it mean the film is shit? I rated those both films quite high, not because they entertained me.
Saying a good film adheres to the conventional norms is saying art should follow the flow of society. Art doesn't adhere to anything except the vision of the maker, objectivity goes out the window. An objectively good film is something that everyone enjoys? Garnered approval is objectively good? If you want to dilute film to that level, you're an enemy of cinema, film should be boundless and without ascribed definitions. Instead of letting the conventional norms of Hollywood to say what film is good or bad, try to watch more films.
>wahh boring star wars movie number one I'm going to ignore the 7 great films in my top 10 list and claim this year was shit
Just know there are many of us on the same page OP. It fucking sucks for movies/tv right now. You can blame the government/media/Hollywood for helping turn a whole generation of males into a bunch of libcuck feminist manchildren.
Hold the line bro. We’re all gonna make it.
>YANG GANG
eat shit commie
I agree with you, there are certainly less good movies because all the budget goes to the glorified tv like shit shows that are the capeshit movies. Disney does owns most of the industry after all... but on the other hand making movies have become somewhat cheaper and there are more movies in general. Offcourse this can be as much a part of the solution as it can be part of the problem because you never know what you´ll find on the B class and the good ones can be easily missed among the sheer volume of bad ones.
I myself try to lock up on directors or actors that have not given in to this super hero trend. Sometimes i find something interesting... granted some times, most times, i find them too fucking late and they are not playing at the cinema anymore.
BTW you seem to have good taste. Have you seen Hail Caesar, Cafe Society or The final portrait? I´ve also heard that the Irishman is supposed to come this year (From Scorsesse with Pacino and De Niro)
yikes if i may say so. arthouse is the purest form of film. that said i like good blockbusters but lets not pretend they are the equal of true kino.
I think in the blockbusters the problem of current cinema is more noticeable because the hero´s journey is the most classic tool of industrial cinema so when a character is not propperly developed or lack proper objectives, motivations or relationships or when the script focuses too much on the politics in a film that it´s not about that subject and that which should have been subtext suddenly becomes text or some sort of patronizing lecture it is instantly noticeable.
It´s like breaking classic cinema number one rule: The plot is king. Every single technical or aesthetical aspect of the movie, every subplot, shoot, scene, everything should add to the plot and the narration... blockbusters these days almost completly disregard the plot or the drama. They focus more on the FX spectacle and use the "plot" as a vehicle to go from special effect to special effect or from joke to joke.
i have 100 kinos on my to watch list, thats not the problem. the problem is i have to endure capeshitters talking about their movies
>The Mule
Nice, I saw that one too and enjoyed it. Clint really showed his age and I think he's not far from kicking the bucket. Also saw Glass, but it wasn't as good as I was hoping. Ok flick. The last movies I really liked were Buster Scruggs and BR2049. Saw the latter three times in the theater. I wish they had used 35mm though, because the digital look doesn't mesh with the original and it's still inferior. Same goes for Scruggs. Would've looked a hundred times better on film.