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Westerns are the most anti-Šoy films in existence
There is nothijg to discuss. That is 100% undeniably true.
Not really.Western main characters are what basedboys think ''real men'' are.In reality they are nothing more than caricatures of already exaggerated versions of samurai from Kurosawa movies.
Then why are they promoting individualism?
You didn't post a western. You posted cowboy capeshit zoomer. This is a western.
>promoting
that's just what america is and has always been
based
Western are also movies with heavy leftist messages. The good ones anyway. Coincidence?
Cowboys are pretty homosexual
Both are westerns. Your contrarianism is boring.
graduate film class please. Some westerns, SOME are based on kurosawa. The genre is massive, that one little factoid you learned last week is hardly relevant here.
such as...?
>such as...?
Anticapitalism. More than often, the bad guy is a capitalist or robber baron.
>10 posts in the thread is already derailing into politics
yeah r/The_Donald totally didn't ruin this website
Reminder that John Wayne's characters are basically social outcasts that still try to be part of society
Clint Eastwood's have given up
HAHAHAHA Youre a fucking retard. The good guy, more often than not, is also a "capitalist" you mongoloid. Furthermore do you even know what LEFT/RIGHT means? Its not pro/anti capitalist. Most westerns are un-apologetically "right wing", if that were a thing.
>The good guy, more often than not, is also a "capitalist"
Name one.
All of them
>hurr indians bad, pioneers good durr
Jesse James
Prove me wrong.
1 of any of the million "bounty hunter" characters who took a job for........... PROFIT
Once upon a time in the West has a very anticapitalist theme and the good guys are certainly not capitalists there.
The left leaning messages are much more pronounced in spaghetti westerns than more conventional American westerns though.
And who told you those bounty hunters were the good guys you fucking moron?
>having a character that works for a wage is a procapitalist movie
what about singing cowoy movies
Bounty hunters and lone gunmen make up the majority of western protagonists.
I doubt that tbqh.
>This was a quiet town before you came. Disgusting town, but quiet.
That's why American Westerns are worse than European Westerns lmao
Yeah, real men push baby trolleys and stay at home making dinner to her CEO wife.
>able to live 100% off the land
>take a wage
I don't think you know what capitalism is. It's not "when people are left alone and be free and stuff"
>everything has to be pro/anti something in my minimal understanding of politics
>Most westerns are un-apologetically "right wing
Yikes.
>Bounty hunters and lone gunmen make up the majority of western protagonists.
Protagonist doesn't necessarily mean good guy, you fucking retard.
>hehe he's the protagonist he must be the good guy hehe
John Wayne-style Westerns might be though, but ever since spaghetti westerns, they have become more left leaning.
are you guys trying to say something?
>anti-capitalist is the same as pro-comminust
Good goy.
Homosexuality doesn't automatically mean onions
Maybe if you don't count Tarantino's flicks or the Magnificent Seven remake
It combines the rugged history of one of the harshest/most liberating periods in the US with mythicism and grandiose presentation
Unironically the best genre
what are you talking about. nerds fucking love westerns. its up there with wrestling and star wars in the basedmeter
If you haven't seen pic related you really should
And then McCabe and Mrs Miller
Bullshit
Also
>leftism
>good
>Union good Confederacy bad
>Anti-Söy
It's not my fault spaghetti westerns and revisionist westerns are better than copypaste traditional westerns
Essential Westerns:
McCabe and Mrs Miller
Day of the Outlaw
Two Rode Together
The Searchers
Seraphim Falls
Unforgiven
Stagecoach
True Grit the Coen Bros
Once Upon a Time in the West
Shane
The Ballad of Cable Hogue
3:10 to Yuma
Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Garcia
>there are people on this website who think Leone's westerns are based and not edgy Matrix/Tarantino shit
I shake my head everytime
Sergio Corbucci>Sergio Leone
no Django Unchained?
racist incel
This. It was the capeshit of the 60s
This but unironically
This is so barebones and safe
Sergio Sollima>Sergio Corbucci
>His only knowledge of westerns is a quick glance at the wiki page for The Dollars Trilogy
Underrated kino, how come I never see it mentioned on Yea Forums? Except for now of course
absolutely retarded neck yourself subhuman ape
>niggers fuck morbidly obese white women who need scooters to get around
Can't make this shit up.
Django Unchained is a shitty parody of Spaghetti Westerns that misses out on most of the thematic and historical elements to make a get-whitey movie that Tarantino can masturbate to
And Tarantino's failings as a visual director, focusing instead on "clever" dialogue is detrimental to the genre. Though not as bad as Hateful 8, where he wasted the 65mm on flat indoor shots and closeups.
It's just a foundation list user, there are literally hundreds of westerns that you can work off of, but these are the ones I think that are simultaneously accessible, good representations of the genre and show great artfulness without becoming bloated or unwieldy
Feel free to contribute some that you think are also worth watching
Thank you
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Based nigger
Oh what a beautiful morning
Oh what a beautiful day
lol, who do you root for? the useless spic peasants?
>the side that got tricked into dying by the thousands for less than 2% of the population's right to own slaves who take white folk's jobs
>the good guys
False. closeted boomer homosexuals never shut up about muh john wayne because they want to fuck him
Burt Lancaster>John Wayne
The dollars trilogy had the most realistic depiction of Mexicans ever on film though. Backstabbing, rapist weasels.
The guy posted a picture of Clint Eastwood, you know which westerns he's talking about.
I know I should've clarified it when I was writing my post though.My bad.
>such as...?
This fucker knows shit about westerns.
Most western were heavily criticised by communist critics for being American propaganda or for glorifying selfish "libertarian" protagonists (clint Eastwood in the dollar trilogy is a textbook example of this).
However these criticisms did eventually spawn a bunch of leftist westerns that dealt with stories of selfish character witnessing injustice and developing class consciousness and rising up against power. Most of these were italian westerns set during the Mexican revolution.
Ironically communist critics still hated them because they hated any form of escapist entertainment.
watched every episode of have gun will travel om youtube for christmas holidays it was pretty comfy
Watched both of those and God Forgives I Don't, Ace High and Boot Hill last week, all excellent. Boot Hill didn't have enough Hill/Spencer for my liking though.
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Except Westerns have existed long before Kurosawa films, and the John Ford ones celebrated American values which also answers ops question.
>yankees impose federal overreach beyond its constitutional intent
>southern whites go full retard and start wearing sheets and pretending they're living gods
>tyrone gets lynched so often he has to move to inner cities and sees the black family unit destroyed in a generation by welfare, drugs and gangshit
>"but thank god we don't have slavery anymore!"
nah american westerns are better overall. the meme that spaghetti westerns = mature and classic westerns = juvenile is overly simplistic. outside of leone, no european directors of western films can match the poetry of ford, hawks, boetticher, mann, etc.
Since this is a western thread and we hardly get any em compared to ones crying about disney. I'd like to shill the Great Silence but only b/c nobody mentions it due to the lack of a US release for over 50 years
Havent seen lone wolf and cub i see
people used to mention this all the time. yeah it’s a classic, the snowy setting is kino