Why is Hannibal horrorkino? It's not because of the murders, mutilation or even cannibalism...

Why is Hannibal horrorkino? It's not because of the murders, mutilation or even cannibalism. It's watching an innocent autist losing everything what little he has in his life that matters to him and having his purity torn away because of a cannibalistic psychopath who brainwashes him to be his friend because he's lonely.

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Just watch S3 yesterday. So fucking kino.

Post homolust

i know the line doesn't make much sense in real-world context, but "ethics become aesthetics" sounds so cool
hannibal had the coolest sounding pseudo-intellecutal lines

I miss watching this show with you guys. It was too good for network TV.

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Refuse to watch this as I don't want it to ruin the season 2 finale and I read Fuller really turns the homo up.

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It was. Will taking them off the cliff together was kino. Even after Hannibal seduced him into murder, he could never completely kill the goodness inside Will

It's actually quite good and there isn't that much homo references as you think, maybe at the very end but that's it.

idk why people bitch about s3, first half was great and second half is a decent adaption of Red Dragon

Will flat out asks if Hannibal was in love with him

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And the answer was yes

its a good show but it's prevented from reaching kino status precisely because of underlying faggotry

I mean just watch the first half, they barely share scenes together (3X01 until 3X07), and you'll see how good it is.

I personally didn't like the first half because it went too far into abstract cinematography and was light on the plot. But the Verger farm episode was kino

>It's watching an innocent autist losing everything what little he has in his life that matters to him and having his purity torn away because of a cannibalistic psychopath who brainwashes him to be his friend because he's lonely.
holy shit that sounds like the most jewish premise ever

The third season is fucking awful you are a legit retarded if you enjoyed it.

I seem to have lost my pumpkin folder, are there any pumpkinposters still around?

you're retarded. It's the best adaptation of Red Dragon and Hannibal.

as in philia or agape, not eros, you brainlet. close friends share love for each other without sexual desire. how fucking unsubtle can you be.

There's a lot of erotic subtext in their relationship and if you missed it, you're gay.

That's loving, not being in love

i love this show

can you guys recommend me similiar shows?

s2 > s1 > s3

The Jack vs Hannibal fights are kino

well maybe, to me their relationship was transcending sexuality, they were simply soulmates but without the desire to pound each other

>inb4 Mads is autistic pasta

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My favourite line actually came from Bella. Something like "Forgiveness isn't something you do, it happens to you".

>plays overproduced music that sounds like kitchen utensils are falling down an echo-chamber whilst a water-phone is being bowed

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Because it's basically like watching Batman play against the Joker, their rivalry is so strong because deep down inside they're so similar.

See also, The Following with Kevin Bacon and James Purefoy

LOBOTOMIZED

My favorite quote of the series right here.

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wtf is a waterphone?

I love how you can interpret sessions between Will and Hannibal as ravings of two well-read lunatics with little actual substance behind their words

ZOMBIE

youtube.com/watch?v=foSJstDFDfg

BEEHIVE

couldnt get into it. LOVED season 2 and the finale is some of the most kino TV in history, but season 3 fell so pretentious. Fuller when full style over substance and it didnt work for me.

it's pure reddit and the worst kind of bastardization of the entire lecter character
seriously you need to be a fucking soiboi or a woman to like the TV show

ok, this is based

I've discovered if you start talking to certain crazy people in real life the same way that Will and Hannibal talk to eachother, the same thing happens.
You're sort of simultaneously egging eachother on.

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same. it also was laughable how red dragon was suddenly this great and terryfying antagonist, when in earlier seasons they ate killers much worse than him for breakfast. compared to shit that already went down he was just another day in the office

yeah, love those both
makes me feel like a right little pseud

the underlying faggotry made it kino, user

>you will never again experience the Season 2 finale for the first time again
One of the best live threads in the history of this board.

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You forgot the 90% of the soundtrack that is composed from the sound heavy wind makes against a slightly open door

more of this? i think i popped something from laughing too hard

For me it's easily the best Hannibal lecter adaptation, at least regarding his character. Mikkelsen's portrayal shows the character as a pure monster, even toward the characters he's supposed to care about like Will.

He's truly terrifying in the show, in contrary of Hopkins's portrayal that was just cliche and cringy sometimes. Hannibal Tv was subtle and complex.

obligatory

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I had to stop at the third season, it became retarded and boring.

I agree.
Hopkins was a hissing psycho.
Madds was The Devil.

Does Mads browse Yea Forums?

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this, didn't bother watching beyond third season

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you arent alone. watched maybe 2 episodes and just didnt care.

second half gets good again

of course

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Pleb filter'd
Fuller'd

Man, I wish someone had saved the old thread from back then. Must have been a freaking shock. S2 finale is basically a game changer.

Dude, S3 is not as good as S2 but it's better than S1 at least.

Who do you think started Le Chiffre Posting?

>dude if you didn't like this pseudo-intellectual world salad and style over substance editing ur a pleb!!!

truly the worst board

>food comparison

archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/44868265
you're welcome

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I think Breaking Bad and Mad Men is more up to your speed.

the pacing of season 3 was much much slower, same pretentious dialogue but without the tension and substance of previous seasons and the plot points were a lot less intricate and twisty, the storyline was much more predictable with basic rehashing of the same material from previous movies. i like to pretend season 3 didn't happen.
sorry to say you're right. i wanted to like season 3, but it wasn't good. bryan fuller phoned it in because he was working on 3 shows at the same time (hannibal, american gods, STD) all of which came out as not very good. bryan fuller isn't god and can't work at 33% have a show turn out very good.
not saying much.

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S4 when?

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It was a nice ride. Season 3 was clearly the worst of the bunch but I appreciate the shortness of it all. Season 1 was really great

It definitely has its moments. The last fight was beautiful. I must say I even enjoyed the homoerotic undertone because it really showed what they both felt for one another

>having his purity torn away
I see you, OP.
I see you.

Fuller keeps hinting that they're working on making it happen through Amazon Prime or Netflix or some streaming service, as apparently all parties involved want to play the characters again.

lmao go watch donnie darko for the 400th time you retarded faggot

Cope and seethe brainlet

basically this

don't forget best boi

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Only flyovers who watch network tv and live on a diet of Cheetos and beer actually watch this trash

>im smart because i like things i dont really understand!

so pathetic. drink another onions latte.

I wonder how they would have brought him back for S4. Like Mason Verger but even more fucked up ?

a pile of ash with googly eyes

Keep projecting, pleb.

Kojima showed him Yea Forums and he never left

Is that picture real? Mads are you reading this now? I like your shows.

You aren't intelligent. No women is gonna fuck you because you like the works of David Lynch. But you've spent 30 years being a virgin you should know that by now.

Why do I get the feeling that the both of you look identical.

nah, its shopped. the reality is worse though, they showed him tumblr

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You're delusional if you think Hannibal is even anywhere CLOSE to how good Mad Men is. Fuck off idiot

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>mad men was good

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*tips*

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Exclusive preview of Season 4

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kino

another one

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i think he basically means that good and evil doesnt exist, only beauty. you should read portrait of dorian gray, it tackles something very similar.

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>It's the best adaptation of Red Dragon
manhunter was way better

>paints fascist frogs
>is russian
Too perfect. The mueller probe is going to hit you incels like 500 tons of fuck you.

Fucking kek!

Bon appetit

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t. ancient greek

Does anyone else feel sad that they'll never have a connection as deep as Hannibal and Will's?

>paint to fight depression
that't not how depression works, that's not how depression works at all

t. depression haver

>It's the best adaptation of Hannibal.

Because there only is the Ridley Scott one and it was shit

t. lazy faggot more like

Excuse me, but Dancy looked thirsty as fuck whenever he was around Mads.
It's only natural some of it bleeded into the characters.

Yeah I loved that shit, a lot of them really sticks with me. Just off the top of my head. I'm sure I'll dig up more when I rewatch. Brilliant and beautiful fucking show
>Extreme acts of cruelty require a high degree of empathy
>Decisions are often made of kneaded emotions. They're more often a lump than a sum
>But this was quantifiably bitchy!
>I understand that blood and breath are only elements undergoing change to fuel your radiance

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Aaaand I came!

Just say you don't like it, you little bitch. Always need to go the extra mile and piss about people that do like something

> Mads' little surprised face when he lands the cut at 1:27

Cute

I didn't know it was possible to love a show as much as I hate its fanbase, but here you are

i don't get people who insult the sound design. how is 'overproduced' a criticism?

it's been said before and it clearly needs to be said again: PLEB. FILTERED.

>turn the volume up to try understanding mads' mumbling in his overdrawn accent because his character is ~european~
>bangBANGBANGBANGBANG

i don't know, but i would've loved to see him again. he became such a haunting character after he got dragon'd. it caught me totally off-guard he survived it when i knew freddy lounds died from it in Manhunter and the book

Can we talk about how Mads shits all over Hopkins as Hannibal? Inb4 boomer cucks

>virgin-shaming unironically
go home normie

I'm sure the sadness will hit me someday, but for now I'm still dining out on actually witnessing what my idea of a truly intimate relationship would look like. I never thought I'd see it on-screen, a horror show was the last place I'd look for in it. If/when I kill myself the series finale is probably the last thing I'd watch

Always happy to help.

Silence!

>cannibalistic serial killer on the loose
>everyone suspects the friendly autist who is catching serial killers and saving lives
>no one suspects the creepy dead eyed emotionless psychiatrist who constantly jokes about eating people

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>friendly
i loved will but on top of being antisocial and charmless his job was to have near-spontaneous insight into killers. i'd be more inclined to suspect him than the charming and well-groomed psychiatrist. and this is probably the last show you should go realism-autist on

Season three isn't as bad as people make it out to be, the Mason Verger stuff is absolute kino, episodes 2 and 3 are shockingly bad. People can't remember every individual episode so the shittiness of episodes 2 and 3 begin to blur and spill out of their containment zones, affecting your perception of the proceeding episodes of the first half which is filled with based Mason Verger hijinks. Also, killing off Verger so soon was a mistake, fuck the books, he should've been saved as the final boss. The Red Dragon shit is dragged out for too many episodes too. Basically they needed more content. Episodes 2 and 3 needed to be condensed to one episode, both episodes basically have ten minutes worth of substance, if that.

Jack should've succeeded and beaten Verger's hitmen to the punchline. After extraditing Lecter back to the states you could have about three episodes as a political thriller, completely omitting the fantastic midseason finale with the massacre at Verger's farm, saving that and more Verger antics for the inevitable future seasons when they get revived on Netflix or Amazon or wherever. Hannibal's trial could span across several episodes with Hannibal as his own lawyer, giving himself the insanity defense while Verger is desperately trying to bribe people and influence the trial to give Lecter the death penalty, with a district attorney he's paying out the ass to get the job done.

Lecter obviously succeeds with his insanity defense and Verger has the district attorney tortured and killed in the worst way imaginable for failing. Verger is gone for the rest of the season, will return with a vengeance in future seasons once Lecter has escaped and the Red Dragon wont have to be dragged out and so fucking boring with the three episode court chess game between Lecter and Verger using three episodes in a far more entertaining way.

>Perhaps

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I watched the first episode of S3 and had no idea what the fuck was going on, so I didn't carry on.

Wasn't that exact line also in Silence of the Lambs? Or Manhunter?

>Verger farm episode
>that scene where Mason makes a little kid cry to catch its tears and put them in a drink
That was so silly it looped back to being awesome.

Aren't they rolling around topless or naked in some dream sequences in s3?

I agree. Hopkins was too jovial and his obvious lust during killing didn't match the "his blood pressure didn't go up" line said in the same movie.
And Hannibal ruined him completely.

i interpret it a bit differently, imo he implies that he is above petty things like morals and only cares about beauty; his actions are not motivated by a sense of what's right and wrong (i.e. ethics) but by whether the result is beautiful or not (i.e. aesthetics)

i watched manhunter about a month back and i think it was there when will visits hannibal

First half of Season 2 had this and it was incredibly distracting and pulled away from the scenes.

Hannibals psychiatrist literally tells Will Hannibal is in love with him

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Dumb homophobe poster.

The music wasnt there to be music, it was the to emphasize something in the scene, how can you not understand the music wasn't there to be listened too, its usually discordant to make you uncomfortable.

>Lobster Rouge
>Chateau Blanc
my sides

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>Watching the film... will be wonderful. But not as wonderful as the act itself
I don't know why I love that line so much

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youtu.be/io-Rn_ebQ9U Bros...

Draw me a clock, Yea Forums.

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imagine being so insecure with your sexuality that gay shit keeps you from watching a good show L M A O

it's only kino to women and gays who want to fuck them

It's always unsurprising to see how filtered plebs rationalize their repulsion

never gets old

It's originally in Red Dragon, Hannibal basically writes Will letters to taunt him over having killed in the past, you can tell he's sort of trying to seduce him but it's less subtle than in the show.

Decent Hannibal show, but absolutely retarded Red Dragon adaptation with a shitty Francis Dolarhyde in terms of writing.

t. hannibal cancer

You would not believe who not only browses, but posts here as well.

>Just watch S3 yesterday. So fucking kino.

its good up until hannibal gets caught

Mikkelsen Hannibal > Cox Hannibal >= Hopkins Hannibal

Dancy Will >= Petersen Will > Norton Will

Noonan Dollarhyde >>> Fiennes Dollarhyde >>> power gap >>> Armitage Dollarhyde

cheeky hannibal is best hannibal

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Underrated

youtube.com/watch?v=9YSd4nAFKR8
>Mfw Jack uses Hannibals own tricks against him in round 2 and totally wrecks him.

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K I N O

>mfw

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Imagine playing a game of yu-gi-oh with this motherfucker

more like homohorror

That shit went off the rails so hard it was giving dexter a run for it's money in seeing who could suck the most cocks.

and another
they're taking it in a different direction

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Hopkins was only good in SotL. Mads is consistently great.

We need a season 4.
We need full homo.
Imperatively.

>Will: My thoughts are often not tasty.
>Hannibal: Nor mine. No effective barriers.
>Will: I build forts.
>Hannibal: Associations come quickly.
>Will: So do forts.
What the fuck does this mean?

>x is reddit
>soiboi

Wow user, you sound like a real 4channer with words like those.

draw your last pathetic card, Mr.Bond.

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indeed
here, have another

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cox hannibal is garbage

and another

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Stop pretending and go back.

HE IS ABOUT TO END MY WHOLE LIFE WITH THIS CARD

This.

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>agape
Wish Mads would leave me agape if you know what I mean

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Well. Thank you for that.

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Nope. Granted, he's not as iconic as Hopkins, but that's because he wasn't the focus of the story. But for what he is, he is doing very well.
Hopkins was utterly ruined by Hannibal. If we compare only the Red Dragon version, then Hopkins wins, yes.

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this show is so fucking stupid, season3 especially
I can't understand what you seen in it

good thing you came into the thread then

I think the whole show is ridiculous but it has enough style and flair to make it very entertaining. Honestly I enjoyed most of 3 because I think the show was at its best removed from the killer of the week trope and allowed to be absolutely insane. I must admit that the show peaked at the 2nd finale and never quite reached those heights again though.

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Theres a line similar to this in the book of Silence

>he's just dumping it into the water!

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This show was garbage

>the joker and batman are the same!

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>Pleb status: filtered

it's s2 > s3 > s1

>Even after Hannibal seduced him into murder

Well technically it was self-defense but that's Will's thing. He gets off on killing people but always has a valid reason so he can never just be flat-out accused of murder. Kind of toeing the line, though.

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>without sexual desire

Nigga he smelled the dude. More than once. He sniffed Will like a thirsty autist would sniff Bryce Dallas Howard's ass. That is 100% homolust.

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Killing Eve is the same just with two girls

why cat slap

who else finds Yea Forums more fun when they're slightly drunk?

I think it succinctly expresses the dynamic of Will and Hannibal's relationship in a nonverbal way.

The question you have to ask yourself is: who does each cat represent?

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they both represent will.

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>triumphantly pop a morsel into my mouth
>it misses, bounces off my cravat
>he leaves early
LMAO I love chan humour, unironically better value for money than hollywood

seriously. bless whoever wrote that pasta, that's exactly my type of humor
>A brilliant multitasker, as always

what was the best fight scene ?

pure unadulterated trash

Jacks revenge is so satisfying

The man who was cucked to death

>fight scenes
they're just in the show so fuller could smuggle in 50 shades of hannibal penetrating will

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they do both resemble him. hannibal is more like this one

I know why I do.

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The relationship between Lecter and Graham doesn't work, it's forced, there's no chemistry between the actors and even less between the characters, the authors wanted to have a bad bad guy and a good bad guy and the result ended to be pretentious

>le style over substance meme show is better then show with both style and substance
Lmao please I hope you nerds are lifeless enough to still be here.

>Hannibros
Yea Forums's Hannibal fanbase has always been top tier. It's when the ones from elsewhere show up with their inability to see past the inside of their colons that things go south. The ones who can only see a sexual attraction are too simpleminded.

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>there's no chemistry between the actors
Thanks for the laugh. It isn't with you, of course.

I can't think of a more satisfying comeuppance in television.

Mads is European retard

What did they mean by this?

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Brian Fuller confirmed that Hannibal was the one who cooked Bedelia's leg. So we're supposed to believe that they can both survive bullets, stabbings, severe blood loss AND a high fall into water and still survive?

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It would't be the first time something impossible happened

love finds a way

>forgetting the fact that this show is dark fantasy and completely unrealistic

best couple always win

Nothing new here.

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>Jack has a demigod-like fighter beaten and could easily kill him but decides to let him go because he "needs Will to kill him"
He could have set Will free

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Beverley Katz's death was probably the spookiest thing in the whole show

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for me, it's the ugly girl who thinks shes dead
legitimately the only episode that ever spooked me

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>played by the girl from Dead Like Me
pottery

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I found her death to be the scariest part of that episode desu. It was sad

cringe and reddit
you must be 22 years old at most

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lmfao
imagine being on this board over the age of 21

Hilarious show.
Her death wasn't actually in the first episode she appeared in. I still find hers the saddest character from the entire series.
>mfw Hannibal told Jack he sincerely hoped she forgot everything for her own well-being...and they show her remembering

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>(Ocean Spray, 2012)

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Except for Silence, the Hannibal books are really not very good, and yet Fuller made this masterpiece out of them.

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Its just so fucking sexy, sleek and dark. Most cops shows are too bright, like literally too bright. Watch the early seasons of SVU and everything has the gritty late 90s early 2000s feel to it. Now everything looks shiny and polished, which makes their stories seem less severe. Add this to how safe and PC the stories have gotten and its just boring.

Hannibal was beautiful and disturbing.

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man that was a fun thread. Still disjointed we didnt have anything going like that for true detective s3. Live threads suck now

>there’s a decent chance I’ve called Mads a faggot on here
It feels both sublime and surreal to bump shoulders with gods

You really have to give it to the wardrobe department, everyone in this show looked stylish as fuck all the time

agreed.

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>You will never re-live the season 2 finale with Yea Forums

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Probably True Detective season 1

Season one had a great score. It was kind of generic but it was still really good. But the random noises elevated season two to levels of uncomfortable it needed to be

I made this. I was so frantic trying to get it done before anyone else. I'm glad someone saved it still. It warms my heart

Being Chilton is to suffer

Mind Hunter

>Mind Hunter
Superficially similar but user will be massively disappointed if they expect anything close to the quality of Hannibal. Only made it halfway through the first episode myself.

>Probably True Detective season 1
This is all that comes to mind, both in atmosphere and quality.

Top of the Lake season 1 only
Utopia
Penny Dreadful (watch the s03e04 bottle episode first)
Shigurui

btw Top of the Lake S1 is shot by the same guy who shot True Detective S1.

>kiss alts

Why watch the bottle episode first?

It's one of the best hours of television ever made, stands on its own, and is wildly different to the rest of the show, which often veers into campy schlock territory. This episode has a much more serious tone. And as it's just two great actors in a room together, it's similar to the magic of Hannibal with mads and will.

Would Hannibal do even more taboo shit like eating a baby? He was indirectly responsible for the death of Will's baby.

He got rid of his wife's son, based