IF he did molest those little boys (and it totally seems like he did) is that worth denying the WORLD of all the the great music he generated?
The question I’m posing is assuming he molested little boys as a result of his own horrific child abuse, AND you had a time machine, would you go back in time and stop Joe Jackson from ever forming The Jackson Five to begin with, or do you think his songs are so good that it was worth all the abuse and all those little boys getting molested?
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That's probably the endgame. Kill his music all together. Never thought about that
Aren't there enough real problems in your world so you have to make up impossible ones?
Jackson is innocent.
>b-but much docume-
Stop being an NPC
Answer the question
There is no reality he raped these kids.
this documentary is very one sided and did not bother contacting someone from his estate or his close friends. Whether or not you think he is innocent, and at this point it’s between him and the almighty, at the very least you can admit that his is more of a hit piece than it is a documentary.
Jackson defenders can't fathom how a rich famous powerful man could possibly groom and control young children. They can however, understand the mental illness of a 30 year old adult man hanging with strange children and having them dleep in his bed.
Even assuming he didn't molest children, as has been already proven repeatedly under a huge investigation, what is the reasoning behind this latest attempt at ruining his reputation?
((($$$$)))
>Jackson defenders
You mean people based in reality
Who is getting the money and from whom?
People can fathom both those things. No one is saying he wasn’t a weird fucking dude.
However, it’s been proven time and time again that he did not do it, in the court or law. But I guess now a days the court of public opinion matters more.
That's a tough question. I'm always going to listen to his music but an answer to your question is something I don't have.
You know who
Accusers attempting to get money from his estate. Makers of the documentary.
The reality is most normal clear thinking people knew MJ was a fucked up pedo for like 30 years.
"But...he made thriller"
>Lefties
The investigation doesn't matter because of this new off the record testimony!
>Also lefties
Trump is guilty of Russian collusion the investigation will prove this (it won't)
There's been no attempt at contacting the estate and the subjects in the documentary haven't filed new evidence, it seems like there's no new trial on the horizon
Except for the one he settled for $20 mil out of court. He just wanted to be generous to the poor family accusing him.
Source? Most clear headed people seem to see through the documentary, or outright haven't watched it (only 1.24m viewers for Pt1)
OP here, perhaps I didn’t make myself clear. Is this (in this scenario we are assuming he IS guilty of everything he’s been accused of) worth dozens of boys being molested. Listen, it’s a good song, and I find it hard to answer. That’s why I raised the question
>source
Uhh life? I didnt see the doc or care. Just saying that MJ being a pedo was common knowledge growing up.
>it won't
>"They tried to redact four different passages in their filing, but failed to do so properly, leaving the redacted text in plain sight. For instance, Manafort’s lawyers responded to Mueller’s allegation that Manafort lied to the government about his interactions with a man named Konstantin Kilimnik, who was Manafort’s right-hand man during his time as a powerful political consultant in Ukraine. What’s more noteworthy is that Kilimnik has alleged connections to Russian intelligence."
Take the L.
>alleged
Loaded paragraph, brainlet
The music isn't that eerie and they don't appear to have a marketing department, judging by the poster, so after checking their books this thoroughly I've concluded that money is not a prime motivator for anyone connected to this movie.
Given that I only believe half I what I hear, it's most plausible that MJ only had a semi and was therefore not aroused by children.
Settling a civil trial doesn’t mean you are guilty. It often means you don’t want a trial to be in the public consciousness for long.
In my honest opinion (I held out on Bill Cosby for as long as I could), I don’t believe he molested kids. I think it is so obvious he never could grow up and wanted the childhood friends and sleepovers he never had.
There’s only two options:
1) MJ was too pure for this world and we are monsters for beating him for being different, abused, and sad
2) The world is simple and he is a freak that got what he deserved
There’s just too many bad people who believe the second
What is this I've heard about a cassette tape containing CP that was found?
>”I played all those Beat up Michael Jackson games on newgrounds! He must be guilty!”
Lmao nah dude was blowing kids
>Taking the L is defending a billionaire pedophile who bought kids from shitty parents
I don't even care. Telling me Michae Jackson fucked kids gives me flashbacks to 20+ years ago
Jordan Chandler claimed in 93 he had a sex tape of MJ fucking boys. He fled the Chile when he couldn't provide.
>Taking the L is defending a billionaire pedophile who bought kids from shitty parents
Source?
It's all coming back to me now, user. Through the powers of pseudo-science my raped repressed memory recalls how 30 years ago you've raped me something fierce in a Shoney's bathroom. I maybe have denied it the first time when I confronted you because I didn't understand the concept of rape at the ripe age of 12, but now I truly see the heinous monster you are. Hope you got a good lawyer buddy.
Man why don’t you calm down? I’m not even that dude, but you sound so defensive. Serious question, why do you seem to think kids that were primed and groomed for molestation might not be defensive and protective about their victimizers? This is just a dumb as fuck bad take
I don't think we should ever connect a piece of art (even the bad ones) with the private life of the author. Judge it for what it is, and enjoy it as so.
>I’m not even that dude
sure
>why do you seem to think kids that were primed and groomed for molestation might not be defensive and protective about their victimizers?
The "victims" in the doc were citing other people's testimonies as their very own experience. If he was the child fucker the media made him out to be, there would be more. 7-12 is old enough to know if you want someone's dick in your ass or not.
How much did Michael tore his butthole over the years?
The same can be asked about Jimmy Saville, there's quite possibly not a single celebrity in Britain that has done more for charity than a serial pedophile. He's been responsible for funding entire wings of hospitals across the country in his decades spanning career but do we take all the money away from these charities now that's he's unveiled as a monster?
>The "victims" in the doc were citing other people's testimonies as their very own experience
What?
>If he was the child fucker the media made him out to be, there would be more
There literally are
>7-12 is old enough to know if you want someone's dick in your ass or not.
you think the age of consent should be 7? Lol damn, I wonder why nobody takes you seriously
>What?
Safechuck's lawsuit 2017 is a copy of Wade's story with the medallion gift bullshit used in the documentary that he lost. Along with the Victor Gutierrez author who was sued for libel. Same Author who claimed he had a sex tape with MJ.
>There literally are
There literally aren't. It's just been those two.
>you think the age of consent should be 7?
No, I'm saying it's generate common knowledge to know what "molestation" means which is what Wade and Safechcuk are trying to weasel out of by saying they didn't know what it means. They said "no" the first time. Try reading court docs instead of gossip rags sometime.
I’ll start with the last part first
>I'm saying it's generate common knowledge to know what "molestation" means which is what Wade and Safechcuk are trying to weasel out of by saying they didn't know what it means.
But that’s not what you said. What you said was
>7-12 is old enough to know if you want someone's dick in your ass or not.
That’s explicitly about consent laws. Now you’re moving goal posts.
>Safechuck's lawsuit 2017 is a copy of Wade's story with the medallion gift bullshit used in the documentary that he lost
It’s not possible the same man could have groomed and abused children in the same manner? You’re literally trying to argue that the fact corroborating testimonies exist means they don’t count.
>It's just been those two
Really? Has it?
en.m.wikipedia.org
Why do white men in their 20s listen to Michael Jackson's music. It's very cheesy and has not stood the test of time at all.
>DUDE HIT PIECE DOCUMENTARIES ABOUT DEAD PEOPLE! AHAHAHA!
literally kill yourself. I saw those 2 attention seeking faggots trying to earn shekels and cannot believe NPCs like you fall for this shit.
>#BELIEVE VICTIMS!
>I’ll start with the last part first
Figured you would. Know your place.
>(and it totally seems like he did)
Because two fame seeking, money hungry, chuckle fucks said he did? Same two guys testified in court that he didn't. Is there and any actual evidence presented in the documentary, of we just supposed to take their word?
Are these white men in their 20s? I assumed anyone defending him or pretending like he made good music is at least 40.
sorry, rabbi. nobody believes your lies.
So you believe Evan Chandler?
>it's been 10 years since the fucker died so let's try to squeeze his estate out of more money and make some money by making a documentary
I'm not defending Jackson in any way, but that's the reason of this slimy kike shit right now.
If Michael had a bbc that he turned white do to bleach did he have the biggest white cock to ever exist? Or do you think he left the bleach off the bbc so it would stay black?
off the wall is great music. agreed. thriller had great music-videos and meh hits.
quincy jones is the true mastermind behind his great pop songs.
all the rest is stinking garbage. i was a huge fan and bought bad the day it came out. i was so disgusted by mj´s new face, outfit. the songs were painful to listen to. yuck
>The child was able to draw distinctive marks on Jackson’s penis and buttocks – as the legendary entertainer suffered from skin condition vitiligo.
>Police in California then strip searched and photographed the Billy Jean songwriter’s genitalia – something Jacko, who denied all allegations of sex abuse made against him, called "the most humiliating ordeal of my life”.
>Following the strip search, Jackson agreed a massive settlement with the Chandler family reported to between $20m and $24m.
>According to numerous reports, including from investigative journalists such as Diane Dimond and Jacques Peretti, the child correctly identified the marks on the star’s penis prompting Jacko to settle.
Wash your penis
What evidence is there that isn’t “it happened because I say so”?
>here’s the last word on Leaving Neverland
You don't matter, user.
Do you get paid to spread lies on the internet?
>The child was able to draw distinctive marks on Jackson’s penis and buttocks – as the legendary entertainer suffered from skin condition vitiligo.
False. Jordan Chandler said Michael was circumcised which he wasn't. Evan Chandler had previously given Michael an injection in his ass.
>Police in California then strip searched and photographed the Billy Jean songwriter’s genitalia – something Jacko, who denied all allegations of sex abuse made against him, called "the most humiliating ordeal of my life”.
Those pictures were then blocked in court by the CHANDLER'S lawyer.
>the endgame
You should end your life, user
I’ve no dogs in this fight but it’s not inconceivable for a doctor or a family friend to have that knowledge and sell it on to stitch him up.
I like you, user. But provide sources please
>arguing with literal mouthbreathing drones
user...
Michael Jackson songs, along with the Beatles songs, are Justin Bieber tier pop-trash with no redeeming qualities
>False. Jordan Chandler said Michael was circumcised
proof? Also would a 13 year old boy know the difference when a penis is erect?
>Evan Chandler had previously given Michael an injection in his ass.
Did he see his erect cock too?
>Those pictures were then blocked in court by the CHANDLER'S lawyer.
Maybe because MJ paid them 24M to shut up?
So its a world conspiracy against poor and innocent Michael Jackson?
he dindu nuffin
I don’t recall Bieber or Paul McCartney ever naming the jew in their music. The only thing close to being redpilled one of them did is when John Lennon wrote that song “All Women are Niggers”
ignore this mj-drone. he is not your fren.
If Michael Jackson lived next door would you guys let your kids spend time unsupervised with him?
schizophrenic Michael Jackson fans who use the bible, dreams, and the voices in their head to "decode" his music are hilarious.
>MJ Estate: He's innocent. We didn't watch the doc. We weren't there.
Wow. So glad they cleared this up!
So you asking if we can seperate the crime from the artist? Like Elvis, who dated his wife from the age of 14, or Tom Cruise, who's scientology buddies did all kinds of shit. Personally I can, but I won't watch another music video of him with children in it, though.
Jews and Zionist puppets constantly name the jew. Einstein, Churchill, Truman, Lenin. They all named the jew, but it doesn't mean that they are fighting against him. Same shit for MJ. He just named the jew in one song, while he promoted multiculturalism and globalism. He was a homosexual nigger pedophile who corrupted the youth. Why would you defend him?
Pedoland ties directly into Pedowood.
Look into Michael Jackson's connections and friends, all the people who conspired with him. He couldn't have done this alone.
yeah man, I tried to give Cosby the benefit of the doubt too but after the 20th victim came forward and there were no holes in any of the stories I had to concede he probably druged those women
Just saying "kike" in a song is not "naming the Jew."
In the context of the song, MJ is saying "you treat me like the poor oppressed chosen ones."
right, he had some feud with Spielberg. I wonder what this was all about.
It's sure interesting that after Jackson and Hefner died all kinds of shit made it to the surface.
The question isn't worth answering, so I refuse.
>he thinks lefties are defending Jackson
I know but some of those the_donald mutts honestly think that he's fighting International Jewry with one song and that he was going on a world tour to "name the jew and wake up the masses" before they killed him. That's how estranged they are.
>history created by bad people doesnt deserve to exist
Fuck off. No one can create your hugbox for you. No amount of trying to erase history will take your memories away. There's no justice in removing something like this from the world. It's nothing but petty revenge.
Based degenerate
The context is “rip me off/screw me over” that’s what “jew me” has always meant
the kid also said michael was circumcised and he wasn't
Spielberg introduced Michael Jackson to Corey Feldman
The_Donald loves jews and says Democrats are the real antisemites. Don’t know what world you are living on.
Spielberg is the most famous match maker in Hollywood
Would a kid be able to tell the difference, specially when the cock is erected?
>if
That's not an option, there is no room for doubt, there is no ambiguity, absolutely no possibility for uncertainty. So people should stop fucking saying "if he did", "assuming he did", I keep saying retarded shit starting like that everywhere now.
IF you think there is any possibility at all that Michael Jackson was a pedophile you are an idiot. That's the objective truth.
No, they are gatekeepers. They will name the jew but only in order to push their jewish agenda even further. That's what they do on /pol/ or other "alt-right" websites.
definitely, according to him he had seen his penis lots of time so its not far fetched to believe he knew what it looked like flaccid
even in an erect state the foreskin is very noticeable
Romans were all peadophiles but we don't knock the Latin influence out of our language. Not that he did it.
Changing the past is never ethical. Due to the butterfly effect, all of the billions of people born since then wouldn’t exist, replaced by others who were the combinations of different spermatozoa and eggs.
>objective
You might want to get an actual dictionary and not the pedo manual you have now. You should also stop sleeping with little boys.
Yes it IS. I’ve been struggling with it all day since I finished watching the documentary. Is having a world where Billie Jean and Don’t Stop ‘till You Get Enough existing worth the cost of multigenerational child abuse?
I think MJ was a pedophile but I'm against removing his music or censoring his image as a pop star.
>schizos still defend michael jackson
>claim that he was just a kid at hear and loved helping children
>ignore the fact that the only children be “helped” were handsome white boys between the ages of 7-12
>ignore the fact that he started “helping” a new boy when the last one got too old
>ignore the mountain of evidence including several testimonies
>ignore the obvious
Damn it feels good to not be a schizo
i m listening to P. Y. T. ( pretty young thing ) right now. musically it is still great ( quincy jones is the musical genius here ) but, come on, the lyrics. made me feel puky desu
>he was just a pure soul who loved kids!
>only young boys between the ages of 6-12 though that he dumps once they get too old though
really?
Nice post, retard. Now go read things instead of watching low end documentaries, you uneducated low IQ piece of garbage.
Ah ok, yeah that’s true. But more of disinformation shilling than gatekeeping I think
At this point, only pedophiles defend him. Most of his fans on twitter are saying "we dont know" or "just leave him alone, he's dead".
You are just jealous no grown men never helped you
the plot thickens:
Lord Janner showing Michael Jackson around parliament in June 2002.
Lord Janner faced allegations that he had abused 30 victims from the mid-1950s until the late 1980s, the first preliminary hearing of a public inquiry into child abuse has heard.
oh man, I m feeling sleepy now. I think I will take a long nap now.
>Hefner died
nobody seemed to have a bad word to say about Ner
>all mj accusers are just jealous they didn't get to squeeze his nipples when they were 7
I never like his music.
I always think his face looks creepy and his act too. after watching leaving neverland I had nightmares about getting fucked in my butt by him... that's so gross
WADE?
>Labour peer Lord Janner accused of child sex abuse wrote to Michael Jackson congratulating him on being cleared of molesting a child
nothing to see here. pls scroll to the next post. there is no such thing as worldwide-pedo-networks among the elites.
everything he did on Motwon with Jackson 5 is immune, because they didn't write the songs
>go read things
I'm sorry, but those magazines you refer to are considered illegal in most countries.
If I put my penis in your butt, would it hurt?
Every Lord is a nonce. It's just the reality of life, half the commons as well. Arr Jezza and his inner circle are the only non-nonces in all of Parliament and the media is trying to destroy him. If you got pictured with any MP there's a good chance he's a nonce.
NOOO D-DELETE THIS!!
>MJ was accused of diddling children, nothing was proven
>MuteMJ!!
>Roman Polanski drugged and raped a 13-year-old girl
>Hollywood continues to work with him, he gets a standing ovation at the Oscars
Really gets the nogging jogging there
did you read the article about the letter janner wrote to jackson, srsly?
Polanski had to flee to France, but yeah, nothing happened to him because he's a member of the tribe and he made The Pianist.
Michael Jackson also got away with it, though.
Relax el spergo I just said it’s conceivable
I'd like to see the letter
Why isn't Sony doing anything then
>making a documentary hit-piece about someone who are not even alive to defend themselves.
Let me guess, Jews made this shit.
>>Hollywood continues to work with him, he gets a standing ovation at the Oscars
Roman Polanski was kicked out of the Academy and hasn't been in the United States in decades. What are you even talking about?
read the article I linked
I want to love you (P-Y-T)
Pretty young thing
You need some lovin' (T-L-C)
Tender lovin' care
And I'll take you there
I want to love you (P-Y-T)
Pretty young thing
You need some lovin' (T-L-C)
Tender lovin' care
And I'll take you there
I did. There's no actual letter there, only soneone's interpretation of the letter that he himself found to be inappropriate and did nothing to indict Jackson.
Lord Janner: My friend Michael Jackson
Jewish Chronicle - June 26, 2009
Leading Jewish peer Lord Janner spoke today about his sorrow at the death of Michael Jackson, whom he regarded as "delightful company" and a good friend.
Lord Janner was introduced to the singer by psychic Uri Geller.
"He came to Parliament in 2002 and I showed him round," Lord Janner recalled. "He had come to the UK to help fund-raise for Exeter Football Club, which Uri chaired.
"I showed him all around the Lords; it was a Friday and the staff were thrilled. When we got to the place where the Queen sits when she opens Parliament, he looked at the chair and then turned to his assistant. He said: 'I want one exactly like that for my home.'"
Lord Janner said he had not been familiar with Jackson's music when they first met but had had the opportunity to see him in California at Universal Studios. "We had dinner together and then I watched him dance. He was an incredible dancer. It was absolutely astonishing."
The peer said he would miss the entertainer, whose death was announced today.
Why are bongoloids so obsessed with defending pedos?
i m tired with arguing with pedo-apologists and mj-drones. research the mj lord janner connection. or not.
pedos, your time is up. people are woke to the nonce question.
There are a lot of pedo rings in that country, for some reason. I think it goes back to their love for young boys.
I don't think anyone who believes the victims wants his music to disappear
...Your reading comprehension needs some work.
bbc.com
John Gater, from Leicester, says he was eight years old when Lord Janner first assaulted him.
He grew up in a single-parent household in the Northfields area of the city after his father left when he was just three years old.
"In the late 1960s, that was very unusual," he said. "My mother had to work and I was farmed out to all of our elderly neighbours. As a result, I became very trusting of people."
Mr Gater describes himself as a "happy-go-lucky" child. "I had red hair and I was a cute little boy," he said.
mj being besties with bong-nonce lord janner ( the old dude with the rose )
his really great music is either fully written and produce by motown artists or Quincy Jones.
>Michael Jackson made good music that people should be allowed to listen to
>he was also a seriously flawed and sick man who should have sought treatment
Those two things are not mutually exclusive
and now listen to P. Y. T.
Based and dyslexiapilled
>Its... its about Michael loving a pretty young girl
>man in the mirror is about michael giving to charity and not raping children
>bad and dangerous are just songs of his, they don't refer to how he actually was behind the veil of the manchild
>smooth criminal is about someone else. It's not Michael bragging about being so charismatic he gets away with raping kids
What if he build neverland to save those children from the pedophiles of holywood.
topkek
He's a pedo.
when he was filming
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He entered my house and r*ped me in front of my parents. My parents were paid to not say anything, after that he kept coming back to Rio and always "paid me a visit".
Edit: thanks for the support guys! i think i'm going to report it now after 10 years!
Edit 2: Thank you for the gold kind stranger.
imagine defending a pedophile
Being under aged isn't about if you know what a penis is. It's about how easily your able to be manipulated into sex because your frontal cortex isn't developed enough.
en.wikipedia.org
Janner was born in Cardiff, Wales, to Lithuanian Jewish (Litvak) parents, the son of Barnett Janner and Elsie Sybil, née Cohen.[12] Janner and Ruth, his sister (later Lady Morris of Kenwood), were evacuated to Canada at the age of 11, because their parents anticipated a Nazi invasion of Britain.[13][14] While in Canada, living with family friends, he attended Bishop's College School, Lennoxville, Quebec.
i just gave you as much proof as the documentary. He could easily be a pedo (having sleepovers with kids and stuff) but at least show us some concrete proof.
Guys, is Thriller really truly THAT good of a song? Is all this really still necessary. I like the song, but does it not get old after a while?
the song is not that great but the music video was groundbreaking
Schizophrenia.
i don't really like thriller.
Bad is his best song.
Rusbé
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Just a reminder, this is the closest we've gotten to an actual recreation of what happened behind those closed doors
This happened. Howard Stern was doing the bit for shock humor, but all of this happened. This was the truth.
I dunno. After seeing the entire documentary, I think that we'll never get the full truth out of this story. The guy is long dead, whoever is in after life already judged the guy. What's to point out in this documentary is also the parents being so okay by leaving thier child to a grown man while barely knowing it. I guess that the money is so good that you an sell your child this easily after all.
Thriller after a while gets old. You are right on this.
the facts are that none of the investigations showed any evidence of him abusing any children so that's what we have to go with. He was creepy as hell to sleep in bed with kids but that isn't illegal.
No. He undressed me and asked me to spread my buttcheeks while he finished off.
I agree the 'if" bullshit. It's a trap people pull when they don't have enough evidence to support their claim so they just try to pressure them into saying something they want for the audience or just to satisfy their own ego. You see this all the time with the Russian collusion bullshit.
you know whats weird
Born in 87 (lol someone in his 30s on Yea Forums), so by the time I was old enough to really form an opinion on him he was already accused of all the kiddie diddling. And my parents - mom specifically, was just like "MJ's a pedo, ew he's disgusting"
The only song I liked of his growing up was the fucking Free Willy song. HOLD YOUR HEAD SOFTLY CARRY ME SLOWLY CARRY ME THERE IM ONLY HUMAN
Everything else sucked but that Free Willy song got to me, man
What absolute Stalinist levels of thinking, if you defend a witch you are a witch.
lard janner was a nonce just like mj. stalin has nothing to do with this.
Yeah. it's just that the documentary is too one sided. it's totally fine to have people accusing and bringing up all that weird shit he did but it's just not really a good documentary if the only thing you do is accuse the guy and only that.
can't stand the pedo but Billie Jean would be the #1 song of 2019 if it was released today
For those who believe Jackson is innocent: do you at least agree that he was definitely a pedophile even if he did not act on his urges?
Michael didnt write the music retard
Quincy Jones was the genius behind the music. Michael was the performer.
Notice how MJ’s later songs stink? Thats because Quincy Jones left.
Beat It was Eddie Van Halen.
I refuse to believe anyone still thinks the celebrity is his own self and not a mish-mash of a creative board room
en.wikipedia.org
>According to Jones, Jackson "stole" notes from the Jon and Vangelis song "State of Independence";[19] Jones had produced Donna Summer's cover of the song, and Jackson had sung backing vocals.[20] According to Jon Anderson, "They took the riff and made it funky for 'Billie Jean' ... So that's kinda cool, that cross-pollination in music."[19] According to Daryl Hall of Hall & Oates, Jackson told him he had taken the "Billie Jean" groove from their 1981 track "I Can't Go for That (No Can Do)".[21] Hall told him "Oh Michael, what do I care? You did it very differently."[21]
whatever. quincy jones was the musical mastermind, the true musical genius.
Quincy Jones - SOUL BOSSA NOVA
MJ faked is voice
youtu.be
Yeah, anyone could perform these songs. This is just as good as the MJ version without the kiddy rape youtu.be
musicians always seem to have a shelf life. Nobody has ever consistently put out good music, you can do it for a stretch and ride it out.
Look at the top songs from 2009. Whens the last time you heard a new song from the Black Eyed Peas? Jay-Z? Kelly Clarkson? Green Day? The Fray?
You get into that thing where every album needs to be a major event or you're finished. Bruno Mars' next studio album better damn well have another Uptown Funk or we'll move onto the next guy
>According to Daryl Hall of Hall & Oates, Jackson told him he had taken the "Billie Jean" groove from their 1981 track "I Can't Go for That (No Can Do)"
apparently the demo for "Hollywood Nights" (from some posthumous cash grab because he didn't think it was good enough to pull any 10-year-old-ass while he was alive) just straight-up sampled the intro beat.
mj was a great performer no doubt. that was his talent. the music however was created by others. he had input for sure but anything after thriller was garbage. how come?
listen to some interviews the great quincy jones to understand.
this. mj couldn’t even read music. kek. he did know how to groom kids and disguise his pedophile activities though. the beethoven of kid diddling.
no
That's also true. The documentary needed other side of the stories. Its way too much one sided. 4 hours where everything could've packed pretty much in 2 hours and 30 minutes, especially if they skipped some details.
There is a blog from 2016, that does a better job on gathering evidence on all of the weirdness on MJ.
mjandboys.wordpress.com
it's just a sample bro
youtube.com
this song is fucking not even close to Billie Jean, and frankly it's just awful
Why aren't they in jail for lying in court?
that’s great advice
>and now here is the pedophile’s side of the story
great suggestion. keep them coming.
mj was not this songwriter genius everybody wants him to be. he was a great performer, dancer. i saw him live once. the energy was crazy. out of this world.
He could have molested a thousand boys, I’d still bop it to Rock With You.
I m enjoying " i cant go for that " a lot more then bille jean. i remember when billie jean came out. it was all about michael. trust me. his persona, the video and HIS DANCING. the song is a pop classic but not this musical genius work of art...
wait how is this relevant? i thought it was pretty obvious that he fiddlet kids when he was still alive.
you guys like fun?
lets have fun
Michael Jackson - Billie Jean (Cover von Donald Trump)
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Only that the website does a better job in being one sided compared to this documentary.
I still wonder how this documentary didn't open the eyes on the families of those two guys being so terrible.
Assuming he definitely molested the little kids AND you a time machine AND you had the power to stop the Jackson family from forming...would I stop them? Sure; no one would care apart from some hardcore Jackson Five fans that would essentially fade in obscurity.
However, that doesn't mean I want to erase MJs music library from existence or censor it. It's there to enjoy, we just have to seperate MJ as a person and MJ as a performer.
Havent seen the doc yet. Need a basic gestalt.
What makes the argument for MJ being a pedro compelling? Is it just two guys talking about sucking dick as kids who can describe MJs dick?
It’s a testament to how great Michael was that everyone’s known he was fucking little boys for decades and still thinks he’s the best pop musician ever.
They are separate "facts."
they describe the whole grooming process. its textbook pedophile grooming 101 described in detail.
>MJ was a retarded nigger pedophile fedora enthusiast
Change my mind.
It's just them talking how they got so close with Micheal, how thier parents were so shitty to let Micheal stay alone with thier child, to only proceed how Micheal had sex with them and ending it how they procted Micheal because of "we respected him and loved him in some weird way."
Trump Sings FEFE by 6ix9ine
Whether you believe Jackie was a pedo or not, I don’t see how that doc was able to change anyone’s mind. It was just the two accusers repeating the same accusations we’ve all heard already. It’s not like there was any new insight into investigations or witnesses or anything like that. If you thought they were liars before you’ll still think they’re liars and if you thought they were victims you’ll still think they’re victims.
Trump Sings Thriller by Michael Jackson
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Does the film provide any corroboration? How do we know that their stories werent developed in conspiracy? Do we have any proof that they havent contacted each other in the intervening years to create a more compelling narrative? I heard that there are voice messages and faxes from mj to the kids that are super messed up. Is this true?
watch it pls. its a cultural shift moment. invest the 4 hours.
that meme that he's innocent started after his death.
Well, he wasn't really black anymore.
There is only one voice message that you hear and several fax messages asking if Wade Robson was well and telling Wade Robson to keep work hard because he had potential.
>great music
It sounds retarded as fuck and you know it.
the dude released thriller. i don't care if he rapes his own mother lol
james safechuck interviews michael ALONE with his recorder at some point. you hear the pedophile mj confess his love for james yourself. there is no denying after you heard that.
you can thank quincy jones 4 that
I thank both of them
But it's just a dance to bad music? Why do people scream and act like he's a god for that?
Totally fine to like this track. It was written by the Corporation at Motown (not the Jackson's) with most of the heavy lifting being done by Wilton Felder's bass line hook. Besides, Michael was likely being victimized at this time any way.
CAn you tell me when this happens? Because I don't recall a single moment when this happened.
What the fuck are you talking about michael is one of the greatest singers and visionaries (even though he had quincy)
Everything he did since he was 6 till he died was pretty much golden.
The amount of joy his music brought outweighs the amount of pain his cock brought their assholes. He had a positive effect on the world.
No. You just put a diff name on it. Money is not personal. Singing is.
i cant give you a timestamp. sry. it happens on the plane when james was travelling with mj on the bad tour.
well put user (like how well he put his cock in their assholes)
so what's the verdict on the doc itself? worth watching?
It's in the first 20-40 minutes when the family is still talking about how michael was a close friend/family
Dude that one guy totally enjoyed it
>There was a bit of a thrill there
prove me wrong. I also had experiences as a kid and miss it
Yeah, I just checked. Well, yeah he sounds weird, but you can point out that he is weird in any other instances. In the end, if this documentary was smaller and not 4 hours long with some useless details it would've been better. Plus the parents in all of this still are a shit.
>all this happens
>DMC5 comes out and Dante has a sick MJ dance
Kek
I'm sure when the purges came, those who tried to defend the purged were themselves purged. Hence why that thinking is Stalinist.
he himself created his weird persona on purpose. so people wont take notice how weird it was to have a special boyfriend sleeping in his bed while being on tour. all intentional manipulation.
if it was shorter: yes
The stretch it so much, it's just ridiculous. they keep repeating the same shit over and over and rarely get to something new.
i lost the count how many times they talked about:
>How michael was like family to them
>How they trusted michael so easily
>how michael jacked/sucked them off at X place
these things should be in the documentary but they are just repeated over and over for 2 hours.
no. thank quincy.
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is it so hard to believe that MJ was just a guy who after years of physical and mental abuse by his father regressed to a child like mind state that made him do things and act in ways with children that would be deemed inappropriate for an adult to do but ok for a child like sleeping in the same bed? that's what i think happend anyway. he seems like he was a genuinely good person who was just really fucked in the head. i feel bad for the guy in a lot of ways.
FUCK. NO.
Never would leave my kids with any non-related adult man overnight. Let alone his freak ass.
ok so I thank michael for Earth Song
Still, a good parent wouldn't ever leave a grown man sleeping with his/her child.
I'll repeat this over and over. This documentary also shows how to be a bad parent. And its kinda shocking that almost no one points out how those parents were shitty.
Beat me, hate me
You can never break me
Will me, thrill me
You can never kill me
Jew me, sue me
Everybody do me
Kick me, kike me
Don't you black or white me
lol wtf is bin laden doing over there
His choices were to
A)Go through a humiliating months long trial, skipping his world tour that is set to make hundreds of millions for him, subjecting himself to infamous tabloid hit pieces, or
B)pay pocket change to his extortionist accusers and get on with life
Settling out of court most often has little to nothing to do with guilt or innocence and almost always about cost/convenience. The entire multibillion dollar patent troll industry relies on this fact. IBM used to be notorious for simply outspending you in a lawsuit and forcing your company to go bankrupt. Other companies started settling pretty quickly when IBM would come to sue. The fact is, there was never a single shred of evidence in the 1993 case, or any of the others. Only easily discredited testimony. And don't say the dick pic. It was never entered into evidence because the lawyer for the prosecution fought to keep it out, because it didnt match. The idea that it existed was "leaked" to the press in order to procure a settlement from Jackson. Look it up. I guarantee that none of you fucks saying he is a kid tucker have ever actually looked up the facts.