Leaving Neverland

at least some dick fingerprints

Audio/video tape or hard physical evidence. If the allegations of him fucking kids in every room of the ranch are true then someone could have very easily planted a bug.

Nothing. Ship has sailed. Snooze you lose. Tough tits.

kek

If it's proven he is innocent, nothing changes.

If it's proven he DID do it, nothing changes.

It's not really about whether or not it's true, it's all about the rush of a nation-wide witch hunt, that's what people are attracted to, along with the feeling that they believe in what's just and are somehow doing some part to find true justice in the world. That's all they want. So this whole MJ resurgence and shit? The end goal is that feeling of like "Fuck yeah we got his Simpsons episode banned and some radio stations are banning his music for now. Mission successful, we did our part. What's next? What other "mistakes" can we "rectify" with small meaningless gestures? We're making the world a better place!".

Even if he didn't molest any children, Jackson was a creepy pedo drug abusing degenerate who should have never been left alone with children

how do you even start to attempt to defend a grown man sleeping in the same bed as young boys that aren't even his family?

i literally just booted up the doc because of the non-stop threads

and 3 mins in shit is already not adding up
how are they a middle class family that owned horses? isnt owning a pool a luxary in aus? how did mike help him with his career yet he never did anything other then rat on mike??

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Stop thinking. Famous man bad, that's all you need to know.

How the fuck is this even funny anymore?
Any real fan knows Michael Jackson was a heterosexual breething specimen. Of course he was fucked up, but surprisingely in touch.
He might've taken it a notch too far. Hell, I've had borderline gay experiences with my friends in my teenage years. There might've been dark moments, but not for a moment I believe he was a padderass.

Exactly, we all know he would stomp on his testicles before performances

Weird, mixed-race post-vitiligo Michael was his most attractive.

Quads trips dubs my nigga. Whatever the fuck you said must be the troof. Im here just to check dem digits.

did what? touch their peepee sexually? I believe so, yes. Fuck them? nah I don't really think so. the way he talks about children and his views on them aren't normal at all. it's like he sees himself as one of them or something

I went to Australia 2 years ago for a working holiday. My neighbor was a middle class girl whose parents owned a gas station and then did accounting later in life. They own a house in the suburbs and a house in the country that has 30 acres and 20 head of cattle with 2 horses. Australia is a young, wealthy, sparsely populated country.

If they didn’t try and sue him or make documentaries about this I’d believe them but nope.

>>Michael was abused by everyone. Not a single friend. He was used by adults all his life

wow, that definitely doesn't sound like someone that could become an abuser themselves.

wait...

That's not middle class, you fucking retard.

Of course he fucking did it. Let’s pretend the sex abuse didn’t happen. MJ was a shitty friend who ACTUALLY fed little boys porn and candy to bond with them. He had many “new kids.” He disposed of them when they hit puberty and had a literal harem of boy partners. He only reached back out when he needed something.

hey, at least he fucked prime britney

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Checked

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He's a pedophile. Leaving Niggerland just cements what everyone has known for two decades.

He did it.

But I don't think he was a bad person. He was fucked up by his childhood, and had the emotional intelligence of a 10 year old.

I think he couldn't relate to adults, but was horny and was old comfy experimenting with kids.

Fuck him. He manipulated families and ruined them.

I will say the guy needed help at most.

>imagine having such a voiced opinion about a person you've never even met.

THIS
everyone knows he diddle those kiddies just like everyone knows oj killed his wife and that other faggot, the verdicts don't mean shit

Why is he so smug?

That's absolute bullshit, those parents were willing to do anything to sell their kids out for fame. No logical parent would settle out of court if their child was actually being abused.

Middle class is considered 38k to 300k

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>Dad commits suicide the day after his family literally abandons him

Ok

>this

>Did he do it?

The better question is - Did they enjoy it?

not watching a documentary that blew up out of nowhere just because (((someone))) wants me to

same with bird box

You obviously don’t have kids, I’d sell my meat bag of a human for a nice watch

>you can't judge someone because you haven't met them
You're a fucking retard, by that logic no one living today could judge Hitler as a genocidal psychopath because they never met him

I literally dont care hes a nigger meaning he should be hated always.

do you have any video of him murdering jews? didn't think so

All want to say is that (((they)) dont really care about us

m.youtube.com/watch?v=RjDJfVbKn1o

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epic bait, retard. Whatever country you live in and defend was run by actual fucked up cretins and Hitler did more for the world than any other world leader combined.

Also MJ was a racist, he'd only have sex with white blond boys.

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MJ had a massive amount of self hate brought on by years of beatings and abuse his family gave. He's literally like Uncle Ruckus but with actual talent

here, he does a good job tearing down the alligations

youtube.com/watch?v=6pnoQqlygQs
youtube.com/watch?v=9yTTEwBLfUQ

"Come lay next to me, user"

what do?

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>unironically defending Hitler
Fuck off /pol/ cancer

5 million up front for over clothes touching. Under is another 5 mill. Anything beyond that it starts at 20mil and goes up

how was nazi germany so much worse than european countries during the crusades, the north american conquest etc?
Don't get me started on the countless genocides with actual evidence carried out under communist nations. What makes the Nazis so special for you? Because they promised a plan that contradicted the network of kikes who publish the propaganda you eat up?

I don't think you can take this doco seriously as I guarantee the people behind making it are just after a quick buck ,

Really surprised H3H3 was brutal on MJ today in his youtube stream. Didn't think he was so gullible to believe this bs tbqh

They didn’t take any money.

I would accept it as tax for nepotism and getting to have a good live. Getting touched wouldn't have mattered to me if I was a kid in that situation. I would have willingly knocked my teeth out with a stone to have the life he offered to those kids.

>Mochael

Hitler was a genocidal retard who completely fucked Germany in starting unnecessary wars and committing genocide you dumb cunt

Was he ever convicted? No? Then I have no strong feelings one way or the other. If he did it, good for him for getting away with it. If he didn't, then it sucks for his legacy to be ruined this way.

Man, he had great taste

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uncle ruckus is unbelievably talented all around though, like hes fucking good at everything and works ridiculously hard at it. just hates himself anyway.

>countless genocides with actual evidence carried out under communist nations
>actual evidence is either nazi propaganda or american propaganda from the cold war
yep, that's gonna be a big "yikes" from me, pal

owning a gas station is explicitly "petit-bourgeous" or the definition of middle-class. Nevertheless you don't need to get your thong in a twist over that specific example- Another aussie here to say you can be middle class (e.g. teacher) and own a horse or two and definitely a pool. At least, in the 90s you could. now you couldn't even get a house lol. LOL

There is no proof of whatever "genocide" you are talking about. If he wanted to genocide people he wouldn't have built lavish and clean camps in comparison to what the "allies" had. Auschwitz had a swimming pool for fuck's sake.

And whatever tragedies you think hitler committed pale in comparison to those carried out by stalin or colonial America. Why do those millions of lives affect you so little?

Not an argument, as usual. Are you gonna say "sweetie" too?

I cannot picture MJ in any sort of sexual light, he's too pure

Any evidence against the nazis is jewish propaganda. Your move, retard.

Don't kid yourself they'd be making money for sure. Think about all the interviews on the media circuit they will do, they would get thousands from the today show, TMZ, 60 minutes etc for exclusives. HBO would've had to pay for the rights of the doco to to be air as well. Being as its MJ's 10 year death anniversary and that he's still sorta relevant. They have jumped on the chance before the relevance disappears and are raking it in.

>well documented evidence of holocaust is bullshit because /pol/ told me so

Fucking stormcucks are the biggest retards

underrated post

it's funny i was looking up the peter pan author JM Barrie (a pedo) and this is the kind of shit people said about him too, and like, rolf harris etc. It's always this "oh i don't think uncle JM ever had any kind of twitching down there for any person.. he was just .. sort of pure".
Like dude this is the act all these fucking pedos put on. That's not proof against michael but just realise you're spouting exactly the same thing that these dupes did about all later-proven pedophiles, because they feigned the same shit to explain why they didn't chase women

>you can't judge someone because you haven't met them

No. You can't. I reserve all judgement until I've met someone in person. Don't you know all news is fake?

You can't take them seriously when they obviously have a bias point of view to push.

Did he leave Neverland?
Yes!

Should I bother watching this shit?

and here's a picture of Michael raping me

Monica at least kept the dress with Bill Clintons cum stain

Because he said Kike and could dance walking backwards

>Blurt out racial slur
>Begin backpedaling

Holy fuck he was one of us.

Didn't need the HBO doc to tell me that.

>20 years old cum stains

It only convinced me of one thing: HBO, and most of the main stream media is corrupt. Did mj actually fuck kids? Who knows, and who cares.. the dude is dead

>turn 360 and walk away
>holy shit it was always MJ doing the spin into Moonwalk
>based man is clearly innocent

>who cares
have you been paying attention user? apparently a lot of people care

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They really don't, they just want what comes with appearing as if they care and ending up on the "winning" side of the issue.

a lot of the contents of these threads are reposts. there’s something screwy going on.

they dont really care........ .
about us

God bless you.

>(((well documented)))
No one believe in your masturbation machine and death rollercoaster moshe

My lord.. Quads Trips Dubs wasted on tl;dr

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Sega helped MJ seduce so many kids.

Most boys would let you take their asses a hundred times for 5 minutes on a Galaxy Force 2 deluxe arcade.

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Jackson wanted children to
>come unto his buttocks
>come unto his laura torso
>come unto his penis
youtube.com/watch?v=h9e_EmoB83Y
No way he is innocent

No.

I believed he did it back in the 90s. The documentary is just more proof on an already large pile.

T. Child molester

Haven't seen it, not going to see it.
I don't watch fotm netflix documentaries.

>citation needed

He's a jew user

Confirmed. These are based.

You can definitely test a 20 year old stain, some scientists recently tested a jack the ripper piece of cloth and it showed results.

Anyone who thinks this is not acquainted with the facts. Literally 0 evidence, ever.

man prime britney sure was something. shame her voice was always garbage

>cops look into him for decades
>can’t prove shit
>one shitty documentary changes that

Yeah right.

Tough titties. Maybe they should have filled a police report 20 years ago.

It left me not knowing who to believe but also not caring about either side.

who has the A SMOOTH PEDOPHILE pasta.

He's a Pedophile
so yes that sounds like what a pedo would do.

he is a virgin chadsperg, the highest form of life possible

Don't care if he did or didn't. Don't even care if he killed kids. Pulling that Simpsons episode out of circulation is absolutely criminal.

Because MJ was a literal manchild

just listen to this song

youtube.com/watch?v=_YmDcCpD1gc

>did what? touch their peepee sexually? I believe so, yes. Fuck them? nah I don't really think so. the way he talks about children and his views on them aren't normal at all. it's like he sees himself as one of them or something
According to the doc both the dudes say it was pretty exclusively hand and mouth stuff. They both do mention one incident each where he tried to /getinthatbutt/ but it hurt/they didn’t like it, so he never pursued it further.

My thoughts? Honestly, I’m pretty sure he was sucking off those little boys. I believe the dudes in the doc

the part where he talks about MJs adult sized cock fitting into his 7yr old mouth.....fucking disgusting

>saying Hitler was extremely charismatic or a "genius orator"
>controversial at all
Pick one. It's basically the only positive thing you're allowed to say about him. Dude literally followed opera classes to help with his speech-giving dramatics.

Right? And when they talk to the American guy’s mom and she’s like
>It all seemed so innocent... they would play like little kids
and then they immediately cut to him as an adult
>sooooo we were fucking in the guest house, the play room, the back of the theater, the swimming pool- he had a bed above the tool shed we’d fuck in...
He spends like a full two minutes just listing specific places on MJs property he was sucking his dick. At a certain point it becomes easier just to list places he DIDN’T have specifically for giving children hanjobs

He should have stopped the surgery there, his nose still resembles natural human anatomy

Neverland *IS* a mind control site largely underground. Why did Lady Gaga offered to buy it "for the kids"? These were always mind control ops with a third of the "entertainment" "industry" fully into it.
NL site had small doors with lockers on the OUTSIDE and heights only fit for kids or crouching adults ( or ALF).
TV sets around pools to watch snuff and cp with the kids. Statues and "art" like pizzagate ones allover.
MJ and his family make the son of Rosemary look like a fetus.

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dude was slightly autistic and bullied / peer pressured into the ongoing plastic surgery, whenever a politician would be in trouble i.e. a sex scandal or if people were against whatever war they started they would roll out Wacko Jacko to occupy the headlines for a day or two nullifying w/e real event / issue was going on with celeb nonsense

and they are still doing it 10 years after his death lel, i bet you 6 trillion dollars that if Trump wasn't president this """"""""""(((documentary)))""""""""""""" would have NEVER been made, if the russian collusion thing was proven early on and impeachment or anything followed, if the all the trials incl the last Cohen one wasn't just such an absolute sham and all the shit that went before that this """"""""(((documentary)))""""""""" would have never been made

Now if he did it or not isnt the issue, the issue is fake news nonsense thrown at the people to keep them occupied and distracted from the fact everything is more expensive while pay has been frozen last 2 decades, less rights, migrant invasion, legalized mass migration, mass censorship of real news and statistics, people dissapearing, billions of dollars and euro's towards third world shitholes in aid yet no money for education or infrastructure.

this globalist cabal uses propaganda like this to occupy the double digit IQ brains of the plebs day in day out, everything you read in the news and about celebs is just there to dumb you down

>that part where the guy described being introduced to masturbation
>mfw that was exactly how I introduced my ex-gf to masturbation when we were 20

shit, was I being predatory?

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I spent more time trying to work out where the Drone Footage of Brisbane was shot from than I did really giving a shit about some dead nigger touching little dancing faggots.

If it's two consenting adults no.

Biggest issue about Mj is that everyone knew he was a pedo and did nothing.

>Ex gf
>Had never masturbated
>20 years old
>EX
Lol you fucked up, might as well kys

lmao doesn't this documentary just show that being gay is learned like as in nurture over nature

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I've never met a man that doesn't masturbate but I've definitely met women who don't.

Reminder that MJ:
>Had huge collection of CP
>Was cutting checks to accusers as early as the mid-1980's
>Had giant child size sex dolls
>Loved to sleep in bed with little boys and only little boys
>Admitted to sleeping in bed with little boys
>His own family says he's a gay pedophile who was cutting checks to the parents of his victims to buy their children essentially
>The police found bloody clothing in his home from when he fucked a child in the ass
>Another accuser says he bled from the ass when Jackson tried to stick his dick in him when the boy was 14
>Was photographed numerous times snuggling and holding hands with accusers

I know. I was a dumbass and wanted to chase other girls. and thought she wasn't hot enough.

she looks exactly like a younger version carrie coon. when the leftovers was airing it made me realise how badly I fucked up

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do it. it goes beyond mj. it is eye opening to what child grooming really is and will teach you to spot it in your surrounding. thats why the nonce is afraid. people finally waking up to the nonce question the proper way.

If Michael was abused himself, isn't it lkely that he went onto abuse others? Why did he cycle through so many young boys? Why would he have bells to alert him when someone was coming to the room he shared with the boys? Are there any other cases in history where such an unusual figure has only a platonic relationship with young boys? How do you know so much as child prostitutes in these countries?

He was found NOT GUILTY TWICE

The kid UNDER OATH said nothing happened.

DO YOUR RESEARCH on the guy now, he's shady as fuck

>Waits until Mr. Jackson is dead to make false allegations so he can't sue the fuck out of you.

Latoya Jackson saying over and over again that Jackson is a pedophile and that her and her mother were angry because their mother found out Michael was writing checks to several little boys.

She also says Michael's mother said she couldn't believe her son was a "faggot", in response to finding out that he molested children.

youtube.com/watch?v=9_1tGqn4jXc

Latoya in the first clip saying he's a child molester:

>"What 35-year-old man do you know, sleeps in bed with little boys and stays with them a week or two weeks, or whatever?"

This next clip she accuse Michael of using his fortune to essentially buy children, cutting checks to their parents.

youtube.com/watch?v=oo4u_P_R0p4

Third clip in which she says he was only getting married to shut down the child molestation allegations, saying that Michael is gay and doesn't like women, and hates them, all women. She also says that in her eyes he's a pedophile.

youtube.com/watch?v=EW2jCPOi0-4

In a 2005 story, Feldman suggested that Jackson tried to groom him and was planning to testify against Jackson, saying he had lied to cover for him in 1993, because he was friends with Michael, much like he was friends with other pedophiles.

In the book Coreyography, Feldman says the reason he ultimately was never called to testify was because he gave conflicting stories in the 90's versus what he was claiming in the 2000's.

abcnews.go.com/2020/LegalCenter/story?id=481709

Feldman saying Jackson tried to groom him:

>"If you consider it inappropriate for a man to look at a book of naked pictures with a child that's 13 or 14 years old -- then your answer would be yes."

>Feldman says he had such an encounter at Jackson's home when he says they stopped there on the way to Disneyland. "We went to his apartment, and I noticed a book that he had out on his coffee table. The book contained pictures of grown men and women naked. And the book was focused on venereal diseases and the genitalia." Feldman said the singer sat down with him and explained the photos to him.

>Feldman said, "I was kind of grossed out by it. I didn't think of it as a big deal. And for all these years, I probably never thought twice about it ... But in light of recent evidence ... I have to say that if my son was 14 years old -- 13 years old, and went to a man's apartment that was 35, and I knew that they were sitting down together talking about this, I would probably beat his ass."

>pro
-multiple accusations
-showed no sexual interest for women (or grown men)
-had insterest in ephebophilia, paintings of cherubs, peter pan, only boys, coherent patern
-stuck in childhood, the biggest case of peter pan syndrome ever known
-was abused himself as a child
-no boundaries with children, slept with them
-famous for being a liar on many subjects (claimed he never had surgery)
-lack of empathy for his own child's safety (balconny incident)
-LaToya denounced him in the 1980s
-members of his own staff denounce him
- drug addict

>cons
-Decade long FBI investigation and nothing was found
-Easy target for crooks
-Accusers changed their stories
-Macaulay Culkin and Corey feldman say nothing happened

>Conclusion
Yeah, there probably have been some touchy touchy, but full rape is doubtful

also, his place should have been in a psychiatric hospital, not in prison

>could have gone to thailand
bro if you desire white boys, brown turds isn't going to cut it. If a nappy congolese tribeswoman was available to you for free i don't think you're gonna be like oh ok ill stop lusting after teen gymnasts.

Why is this MJ doc gaining so much traction?

>In 2011, Robson approached John Branca, co-executor of the Michael Jackson Estate, about directing the new Michael Jackson/Cirque du Soleil production, ONE. Robson admitted he wanted the job “badly,” but the Estate ultimately chose someone else for the position.

In 2012, Robson had a nervous breakdown, triggered, he said, by an obsessive quest for success. His career, in his own words, began to “crumble.”

>That same year, with Robson’s career, finances, and marriage in peril, he began shopping a book that claimed he was sexually abused by Michael Jackson. No publisher picked it up.

In 2013, Robson filed a $1.5 billion dollar civil lawsuit/creditor’s claim, along with James Safechuck, who also spent time with Jackson in the late ‘80s. Safechuck claimed he only realized he may have been abused when Robson filed his lawsuit. That lawsuit was dismissed by a probate court in 2017.

>In 2019, the Sundance Film Festival premiered a documentary based entirely on Robson and Safechuck's allegations. While the documentary is obviously emotionally disturbing given the content, it presents no new evidence or witnesses. The film's director, Dan Reed, acknowledged not wanting to interview other key figures because it might complicate or compromise the story he wanted to tell

It literally contains no (new) evidence

>Did Leaving Neverland convince you?

nope and wade is a retard, he went from "michaels only interested in young boys" to "i had a groweth spurt and was much bigger at 14 i saw michael again and he was instantly interested in sex with me again" to "he was obsessed with britney spears"

rightttttt, gay who likes little boys also likes big ones and randomly women to? seems legit.

Also wade was gifted a camera and loved selfies and being a narcissist yet he managed to photo everything around the time apart from an actual evidence to this allegation lmfao.

The allegations themselves are evidence

>FBI investigation
Go read the actual reports. Most of them are blanked out and they never say that "nothing was found"
>Accusers changed their stories
Its something that happens when you get groomed as a child
>Corey feldman
He said on CNN that he can't defend Michael Jackson anymore, after watching the documentary.

Why the fuck does he keep taking pictures next to children? Isn't his music for perverted adults.

upper middle class can still afford a shit ton of stuff like horses, swimming pools or even tennis courts

Nah man I don't watch Netflix propaganda films.

He was a gay pedophile

pedo

imagine going to a film festival and spending 4 hours of it watching two guys talk in a doco lol

This was made by HBO. The same network that made Sopranos, The Wire and Rome.

Well jeez, now you've just made me look like a complete idiot.

>MJ is a pedo because otherwise the media would be lying, which is impossible.

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rip
maybe I should've use the internet to find that out before posting on 4channel.

and game of thrones, which explains why the documentary is such a joke

Fits right in with those fictional series then.

Neither of the victims are gay. It shows that straight men can essentially endure homosexual attacks, but not 'turn' them gay.

YEAH DEY LYIN ON MIKE

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>Accusers changed their stories
>Its something that happens when you get groomed as a child

It's also something that happens with crooks who desperately need money.
You got to consider the two possibilities.

>FBI investigation
>Go read the actual reports. Most of them are blanked out and they never say that "nothing was found"

If an evidence had been found, there would have been another arrest.

Can you say that nothing in your house would look suspicious if you were accused like this?
Even a video game would look suspicious (are trying to groom kids with that video game sir?)

FBI didnt even head up the investigation they assisted for parts of it

Fuck your gay pedophile apologist image

I don't care if MJ diddled kids or not, honestly he could've diddled them and I woudln't give a single fuck, MJ was based and I hate kids anyway.

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based

not based npc

>Prosecutors finally made a deal with Jackson: he would not be put under arrest and handcuffed if he would voluntarily submit to having his genitals photographed. Jordie Chandler had drawn an explicit picture showing markings on Jackson's testicles and a dark spot on his left buttock. I wrote about how Jackson tried to abort the process, to the point of striking one of his doctors and calling the detectives present "assholes." However, the photos matched Jordie's drawings.

>That proved to be a decisive moment in the case. I wrote that article after Diane Sawyer interviewed Jackson and his then bride, Lisa Marie Presley, on ABC TV and wrongly announced that he had been cleared of all charges, which Jackson readily confirmed on the air. In fact, the case was still open. Even today, prosecutors say, under a 1993 California statute, if a previous victim was to come forward with substantial abuse allegations, and there was clear and convincing corroborating evidence, it would be possible to bring criminal charges. Moreover, California has just instituted a one-year grace period, extending from January 1, 2003, to January 1, 2004, allowing past victims of certain kinds of sexual abuse to file civil complaints.

>-Decade long FBI investigation and nothing was found
There wasn't a "decade long" investigation. They looked int it in 1993 and they looked into it in 2005.

They weren't fucking wiretapping his fuck teepee for ten years. They called ahead, said they were going to search, conducted a search, and STILL found kiddie porn art books.
>-Macaulay Culkin and Corey feldman say nothing happened
They were powerful and famous and rich. They would likely have been friends, not lovers. Like a priest doesn't target the kid whose popular and cool and a lot of stuff going on. They target the kid that's desperate and loves the idea of them and stuff.

>Yeah, there probably have been some touchy touchy, but full rape is doubtful
Why? And also wtf do you think the difference is between "full rape" and "getting a blowjob from a 7 year old" and "sticking your dick briefly in a 9 year old?"

Yeah but I don't have sleepovers with children in my house.

based retard

Expecting the same kind of evidence that came out of the Jimmy Saville trial since that was over 30/40 years ago and there was still a shit load of evidence. This documentary is just kike propaganda because Weinstein is on trial and Epstien is being investigated again

youtube.com/watch?v=ycyEL1mGSd0

Explain this

DAS RITE ITS MAH NIHGA OJ ALL OVA AGEN DEY TRYIN TO PUT DAT SHIEET ON A BRUTHA

like almost every other pedo

>It's also something that happens with crooks who desperately need money.
What money? Also one of them is already a rich and well-known choreographer. This is likely bad for his ability to make money.

And you think Jackson was fully innocent and the boys he slept with in his bed are just "crooks" trying to hurt his legacy?
>You got to consider the two possibilities.
t. hasn't watched the doc
>If an evidence had been found, there would have been another arrest.
Good thing he got rid of the evidence aye.
>Can you say that nothing in your house would look suspicious if you were accused like this?
I can. Never once owned ANY picture books with nude children. Don't have ANY pictures or videos or other media featuring nude children.
>Even a video game would look suspicious
No it wouldn't. Plus they would have found video games. He had an entire arcade. Are you retarded?
>(are trying to groom kids with that video game sir?)
literally yeah he was.

>kiddie porn art books

That's a contradiction.

nudity =/= porn

Why weren't they confiscated or photographed and used in the trial?

>kiddie porn art books

Art books with nudity are not porn. Or else, most museums would be considered like child porn malls.

>wtf do you think the difference is between "full rape" and "getting a blowjob from a 7 year old" and "sticking your dick briefly in a 9 year old?"
He was a crazy man with a peter pan syndrome. I don't think he was faking that part, do you?

If you take this into account, if he did something, it was probably like "show me your pee pee and i'll show you mine" kind of shit.

Still legally considered as a rape, but knowing his personality type, i don't see him getting hard and fucking someone.

>The mothers admitted to being vultures, the type of people Michael tried to protect himself from. The one mother actually left her husband to move from Austraila with all the kids because she thought she could get Michael to let the family move onto the Ranch, she admitted she got pissed that when she got off the plane that she had to find an apartment and Michael wouldn't pay for her lifestyle.

BASED MJ

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I just don't get it. I'm Australian and everyone here already knows he did it and has known for decades. Was the American public kept in the dark or something?

>Even if he didn't molest any children, Jackson was a cool pedo abusing degenerate who should have never been left alone with children
ftfy he was cool af back when he diddle these kids

>And you think Jackson was fully innocent and the boys he slept with in his bed are just "crooks" trying to hurt his legacy?

I think there has been sexual misconduct at some point, but not full on rape.

>Still legally considered as a rape, but knowing his personality type, i don't see him getting hard and fucking someone.

you're admiting he was a child molester and still defend him lmao
"i don't see him getting hard and fucking someone." you're fucking retarded, MJ got married and had kids and abused drugs, yet you actually believed this "I'm just an innocent manchild" bullshit

reminder that this man had between 400-500 alleged victims, was constantly protected by the BBC because of his position and all public attempts to expose him whilst alive were shut down.

michael jackson had one instance of alleged abuse by extremely questionable parents and was instantly thrown under the bus by the media for decades resulting in further very few suspicious allegations.

look at the bigger picture people, you have been utterly fooled. michael jackson was the ultimate scapegoat.

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>nudity =/= porn
So you keep a lot of nude pictures of children on you? Is this what you're practicing to tell the police when they search your house?

And what do you think pedos do if they don't want to get caught with child porn? They buy child nudity "art" books.

Like I used to jerk off to the Sears catalog underwater and bra section. Was that porn? No. Was it weird when my mom found it under my bed? Yeah.
>Why weren't they confiscated or photographed and used in the trial?
Because it's "innocent" haha! Just a Sears Catalog no biggie!

Do you think that maybe investigators and prosecutors may have treated MJ differently than a normal black guy?

Also, why are you talking about 2005? The year is 2019. Why haven't you watched the doc?

he didn't but he was still a pedo, he was just the passive type is all

>Art books with nudity are not porn
how many pictures of nude children do you have?

And do you think a pedophile might be able to jerk off to a "non-pornographic" picture of a nude child?

>I think there has been sexual misconduct at some point, but not full on rape.
So you're saying they're liars AND you're saying they're telling the truth at the same time?

Why? Is this just part of you moving the goalposts towards acceptance?

Why not just watch the doc?

different countries/cultures

The parents are almost as guilty and deserving of jail as Michael.
Who the fuck lets their kids sleep with strange adults?

>michael jackson had one instance of alleged abuse
At least 4 m8.
>look at the bigger picture people, you have been utterly fooled. michael jackson was the ultimate scapegoat.
For what?

I love how you cucks are like THERES A GLOBAL PEDOPHILE RING AMONG THE ELITE or whatever, EXCEPT for if it's connected to people whose music you like.

My thoughts exactly user, the Australian bitch was a bit less obnoxious but Jimmy's mom is just ridiculous and I wanted her to be brutally killed after seeing the documentary. The mental gymnastics these two bitches did for decades convincing themselves they were in the right is astounding.

So did the parents bring it to criminal court like what happened with Saville?

Kekekekeke

I was a fan (read: was; ages ago back when he was alive), always thought the allegations were bullshit, but I found the documentary to be credible. I wouldn’t bet money that he was guilty (I never take peoples’ word alone as evidence—that sets a dangerous precedent), but I heavily lean in that direction, despite preferring it not to be the case. I always thought of MJ as a great person, albeit misunderstood... but one thing humans tend to be guilty of is confirmation bias and I’m trying to leave that at the door.

The lurid details about the stories those guys told just didn’t come off as made up or fabricated at all. If they were lying, they are extremely good actors. Macaulay Culkin and Corey Feldman having only positive things to say is interesting, but all that could be is he was selective about his victims. There are definitely things that don’t add up (both guys being in financial trouble and defending him up until only recently), but then you have the FBI reports of videos/pics of naked kids in his house that are public information.

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>I watched this shit last night. It was total shit. I don't know how this got a green light. it was 2 parts. 4 hours long. NOT ONE PIECE OF EVIDENCE. ALL OF IT WAS ALLEGATIONS. They accusers didn't even have any real pictures of Neverland Ranch. They only had 1 picture of Michael each. THEY HAD TO USE A BROCHURE THAT ANYONE CAN GET OF THE HOUSE (WHEN IT COMES UP FOR MARKET- A BROCHURE THAT SHOWS THE LAYOUT OF THE HOUSE AND PICTURES OF WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE INSIDE) Because they had no evidence. The facts are:

The facts are this - you're fucking idiot. You didn't even watch it because if you had, you would have seen lots of pictures of these particular individuals when they were young with Michael. Stop defending Jackson.

(Cont.)
But either way it doesn’t matter, his music is played out and boring anyway. And he’s been dead for what, a decade? Honestly this documentary should’ve dropped like around when he died... now THAT would’ve been interesting.

>that caption

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>Macaulay Culkin and Corey Feldman having only positive things to say is interesting,
Feldman believes the doc. He's done having positive things to say about MJ.
>but all that could be is he was selective about his victims.
Exactly. You don't rape riche famous kids. You rape ones who've been taken across the globe and separated from their parents that are desperate and easily seduced. The kid that played Richie Rich isn't gonna suck dick over a cool arcade.

>So you're saying they're liars AND you're saying they're telling the truth at the same time?

Things don't have to be just black or white/

1 He definitely was an ephebophile, and probably acted on this.
2 The two accusers who made the documentary have "CROOKS" written all over their faces and they are in for the money.

The two statements are not contradictory, they just profit from the situation of someone who was notoriously an ephebophile.
The first blackmail in the 90s worked because Michael Jackson was in that grey area.

>drinking Jesus Juice out of a baby bottle

what the fuck was his problem

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after the first family got a paycheck others started crawling out of the woodwork looking for money.
>For what?
what i'm saying is that public perception is everything and the media was responsible for letting one person get away with it whilst throwing another under the bus.
>I love how you cucks are like THERES A GLOBAL PEDOPHILE RING AMONG THE ELITE or whatever,
there probably is or at least has been, many child actors can testify to this

>Things don't have to be just black or white/
You're calling them liars. You're saying they lied. You're saying you're willing to believe the vanilla touchy touchy things because I guess you can tolerate that, but when they say they sucked his dick or he tried to fuck them in the ass, that's where you take issue?
>1 He definitely was an ephebophile, and probably acted on this.
NO. That's attraction to pubescent children. He got bored with them when they got to that age. He was attracted to 7 year olds.
>2 The two accusers who made the documentary have "CROOKS" written all over their faces and they are in for the money.
Yeah so they're bad people. They CROOKS to suggest that Michael systematically groomed and raped them for years.

You're going to burn in hell my dude.

>The two statements are not contradictory,
They are. They're entirely bullshit muddy waters nonsense where you're reflexively attacking the victims to protect your feelings.

So I'm an hour into the first part. Why does he have to name every room they had sex in? He could just say, "We had sex in every room." Instead it's, "Tree house? Sex. Pool? Sex. Attic. More sex."

Anything that gets approved by Netflix is almost certainly the opposite of the truth.

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They can't because MJ is dead.

is kendrick lamarr still defending MJ?

>Feldman
Well, to be fair, I think his point is just that anyone who says they’re a victim deserves to be heard.

>Exactly, You don’t rape riche famous kids.
Yep, it’s always unknowns that have accused him. People probably wouldn’t found it more credible if Macaulay had accused him, and it would’ve gotten a lot more press than literal who kids.

Not to mention, even if you think he’s innocent of the charges, why did he *consistently* hang out with only boys of a certain age? He didn’t seem to ever pal around with little girls or adult males... just. Prepubescent. Boys.

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He was a homosexual pedophile.

>He definitely was an ephebophile, and probably acted on this
absolute speculation

Maybe it's just the editing but the documentary is so fucking disturbing. I can watch most shit without blinking but this really made uncomfortable.

>after the first family got a paycheck others started crawling out of the woodwork looking for money.
If I got raped I'd be looking for money. Would you not? You'd be happy being raped and poor and fucked up for the rest of your life?

Are you a degenerate? You're saying I could rape you and you'd keep quiet like a good little slut?
>what i'm saying is that public perception is everything
Yeah and if you didn't perceive Jackson as a guy that you liked as a child, would you have any problem believing this?

How easily do you assume people are pedos if you don't like them?
>there probably is or at least has been, many child actors can testify to this
Just not with the guy that spent most of his life grooming 7-year-olds to be seperated from their parents and left with him in an elaborate fuck pad with isolated, alarmed bed room areas. Just not the guy that was repeatedly accused his entire career.

Miggel a good boy. Miggel dindu nuffin.

what about all the other boys that supposedly cucked the 2 in the documentary?

whatever happened to them and how come they aren't saying much?

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This documentary is not produced by Netflix, you pedo enabler.

No shit. A documentary with no new evidence or information and suddenly it’s everywhere.

Define ephebophile m8. How many 13 year olds was MJ ever seen hanging out with?

How many 7 year olds?

>The two accusers who made the documentary have "CROOKS" written all over their faces and they are in for the money.

See... I came in as a former fan assuming innocence, expecting to see a couple of money-hungry dirtbags, but try as I might, I didn’t get that read on them at all. They just sounded sad and confused. I don’t know them personally but they struck me as good guys.

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and a nigger

They do look like crooks.

Can't you read people's faces? They say something but their eyes don't say it, their body doesn't speak with it and so on...

You should watch videos about facial expressions and body language analysis.
It's clear as day with this case.

hey the Jackson foundation is here!

How much do they pay you to condemn your soul to hell to shill for someone that facefucked children?

digitalmusicnews.com/2016/06/21/items-discovered-police-michael-jackson/

>Evidence Item #510. Disneyland plastic bag containing underclothes and bloodied bed linens.

He had bloody underwear and sheets.

One of his accusers in the new documentary also states that he bled from his rectum after Jackson tried to fuck him and bled into his underwear a little.

mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/wade-robson-claims-michael-jackson-13952705

pedophile

I don't know how people can't feel sorry for children that are forced into a codependant relationship by michael getting them to distance themselves from their parents, and then when they start getting too old he ghosts them without a reason only to appear on tv with a boy that was their age when they met him.
He always talks about how he hates and mistrusts women but I think he hates little boys too, why else would he be so oblivious to their feelings.

Based illiterateposter

>Evidence Item #510. Disneyland plastic bag containing underclothes and bloodied bed linens. The Garden City bag also contained: a bright orange pair of shorts, size 4, ‘possibly for a young girl’.
a new pair of Spiderman socks.
child-sized, off-white t-shirt. pairs of gray, white, and blue child socks.
a significant amount of clothing for an adult male.

Literally says nothing about bloody underwear

Latoya was married to a man who, I can't remember how, but was in some way related to the case and would have benefitted from MJ being guilty. This guy also luckily happened to be a woman beater. She's said several times since then that her husband made her say that shit about MJ with beatings being the repercussion for not going along with it. It's also public knowledge this guy beat her all the time, and had been photographed a bunch with bruises and shit on her face whilst married with the guy. Latoya shit debunked.

The way the scenario is laid out Michael is genuinely in love with the boys and the boys are in love with him.

>They do look like crooks.
AND MICHAEL LOOKS LOOKS LIKE A HETERONORMATIVE MALE WITH A HEALTHY ATTRACTION TO WOMEN LMAOOOOOOO
>Can't you read people's faces?
Yeah. I had an art teacher that was a sexual predator. Molested and blew like 5 of the kids in my class. He did THE EXACT SHIT that Michael did. Got them over to house alone (he invited them over to use the kiln), where he then left porn playing and laying around in the house, used that as a way to talk about their developing sexuality, and slippery sloped his way into their pants, and eventually into prison.

If you look at MJ, and you look at his grooming behavior, and you look at their testimonies, it is STANDARD pedophile playbook.

When you look at some crying adult man trying to explain what it's like to be 7 and have an adult's penis is his mouth, and you think HEH CROOK, you're a piece of shit. You're part of the problem. You're the reason pedophiles get away it.
>They say something but their eyes don't say it,
It's called acute stress disorder, post traumatic stress disorder, disassociate disorder, etc. You must have lived a blessed life. Good for you.
>You should watch videos about facial expressions and body language analysis.
I have a college degree about this shit.
>It's clear as day with this case.
You're an enabler to psychopaths and you're going to burn in hell.

anyone else find it strange that this documentary on a long dead celebrity came out right when congress was trying to pass a law that would make anti-Semitic remarks illegal?

what a coincidence

The bed linens had blood, not the underwear.

If you think he did it : why wouldn’t he just go to a poor country and rape thousands of kids there? He was rich enough to do that. Why take the time to build Neverland, look like a effed up weirdo, groom children that could rat him out anytime?

Or, anyway, why are they so few victims? Real pedos have terabytes of cp in their computer, Savile and Nasser have hundreds of victims. MJ has like four accusers. Weird, huh?

Only an idiot would have to watch a documentary to tell that MJ was into kids. Prove me wrong.

MJ's father is also known to be an abuser and he also raped all his daughters and used to beat his sons. What's your point?

>how are they a middle class family that owned horses?
You're a fucking idiot. Poor people own horses all the time because they're idiots like you are.

i'm not the one defending him here

There were 7 accusers that came out. I believe MJ actually saw those boys as his lovers and not just as prey, like in the case of Saville.
He also groomed middle-class children who were easily manipulated by his fame. He didn't need to go to thailand.

>tee hee I'm just pretending to be retarded
Wowzers great post bro like 8/8 gr8 b8 m8

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizophrenia

because you don't just lust after a literal boy ass hole it's about the essence which is not going to be the same. that's 'no substitute'.

hey you missed the point of his post entirely kys

>one of the accusers denied a job position in cirque du soleil’s michael Jackson show
>immediately comes out with these accusations

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>If you think he did it : why wouldn’t he just go to a poor country and rape thousands of kids there?
He did. The US is a poor country. And he even imported boy toys from Australia.
>He was rich enough to do that.
He was also rich enough to seduce entire families and bring them to the house that he was rich enough to design around being able to fuck kids without getting caught.

I think that’s what fucked me up. Leave out the sex stuff and it’s still horrible. MJ sounds like a callous asshole that dumps his GF like a pack of dirt for a younger version, but actually they are little kids that look up to him. Horrible.

Fbi files released today show MJ was under investigation years before for raping 7 and 8 year mexican boys but Reagan ordered the case dropped as he was going to be issuing him an award and didn't want a scandal.
Tick tock pedo apologists

You missed the entire point of my post. You have a psychotic disorder and you need to be honest with your doctor.

>If I got raped I'd be looking for money. Would you not? You'd be happy being raped and poor and fucked up for the rest of your life?
this just goes to show how uninformed you are about the case. the chandlers weren't poor, the father was a dentist and a screenwriter who aspired to make big films. here you can hear how honest and truthful he was about his son getting raped. youtube.com/watch?v=tx8Z9fxxw-U
besides, the payment they received did not prohibit them from persuing jackson in court, so why did they suddenly forget about the abuse once they got their money?

>holding "sword"

You still didn't read his original post did you?

They both have resting bitch face. I rest my case.

my understanding of that word is "gay pedo"

Does 13 or 7 makes a difference? Both are before puberty.

>no source

This isn’t /pol/ dingus

>this just goes to show how uninformed you are about the case.
t hasnt watched the documentary

If someone raped my kid I'd sue them for their networth. Cry more m8.

Are you, yourself, a pedohile? Is that your motivation for this?

Or you just really like Thriller?

What is the cause of your psychosis?

Man, what happened to innocent until proven guilty?
One of the most important pillars of a modern democracy, one of the greatest checks on tyranny

You still haven't come to terms with your mental disorder have you?

How ARE you not take the word of somebody with ZERO evidence? They are VICTIMS, you HAVE to believe everything they say, you bigot!

>multiple kids can accurately describe MJ's dick, nuts, and birth marks
It's almost like you would need to be a celbrity worshiping piece of trash to think he didn't do it.

How do you prove guilty someone with that amount of power, money and fame? Specially in America, where they worship celebrities as Gods

Im not playing retard, retard
His behavior is still very different from other pedos
But Savile has like hundreds of accusers, he wiuld go in his hospitals and randomly assault the little kids there.

There were so many kids at Nverland, it’s just strange that so few would say they were assaulted.

>zero evidence
Actually there's a lot of evidence, why are you lying to protect a dead rich celebrity? Is it because he made some retarded music back in the day?

Ausfag here

Almost every second house has a pool
A lot of suburbs are rural still and many have horses to keep the lawn short

pedo

I fucked up the quoting, don’t mind me im a retard

Reddit out in full force today.

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facts that were known to the public before they made their "confession"
as such it would be trivial for even a beginner lawyer to introduce reasonable doubt regarding their stories

>/tvpol/ defending a pedo nigger
Oh i am laffin

You can be a serial killer independently if you kill only 3 people or 40 people.

>They both have resting bitch face. I rest my case.
lol
>my understanding of that word is "gay pedo"
No ephebophilia is attraction to pubescent and post pubescent children. Teenagers.

Pedophilia is attraction to prepubescent children. Under 10 generally.

>Does 13 or 7 makes a difference? Both are before puberty.
No 13 is pubescent. 13 isn't what "pedophiles" are after. That's when they start getting lanky and their voice changes and stuff. That's when Jackson started getting bored with them.

And in terms of psychological abuse, seducing a 13 year old is considerably less damaging than a 7 year old. At least a 13 year old is STARTING to naturally think about sex. You're destroying a 7 year old's entire childhood and fucking up their life pretty much forever. Their understanding of sex and love is toast.

Reddit is actually defending that pedo.

apparently all it takes to get the public opinion and every major broadcaster and distributor to turn against him is to simply state your case
if you're going to try and use that argument at least have the decency to use it on someone who isn't being convicted by public opinion as we speak

TRY TO JUSTIFY THIS PEDO DEFENDERS

I thought only lefties loved MJ and his retarded music?

>shilling for a black pedophile pop singer sjw is something Yea Forums does
quit smearing your faggot shit on this site. you need to go back.

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>literally opens with "he abused me for seven years"

Somehow I have a hard time believing this would be possible over such a long period of time. The victims sounded and looked disingenuous to me.

I don't know what happened and what didn't, but neither party has been particularly believable.

Culkin said nothing ever happened and I would believe him over any of these nobodies or MJ. Because Culkin had nothing to profit from accusing or supporting MJ.

watching a one sided documentary doesn't make you an expert, pal. noteworthy how you refuse to even mention the points i brought up.
also nice ad hominem

>Amerifat thinking everyone else is as fucked as Americans are
Rest of the world's middle class doesn't have to spend $300,000 on average on healthcare in their lifetimes. That allows for a lot more pools and horses and expendable income.

>i would believe a celebrity over any of these nobodies
The mind set of a disgusting celebrity dick sucker everybody. My god """people""" like this should be shot.

That homosexual pedophile nigger deserves it.

especially because a core part of the accusations is that MJ was a pedophile
if he actually was a pedophile there is literally no way he could remain interested in someone for a period of 7 years, by the tail end they would be way to old for their tastes

As I said, Culkin stood to gain nothing by defending MJ. It wasn't about money or fame for Culkin. That makes him believable.

MJ is innocent. Fuck the kikes.

>watching a one sided documentary doesn't make you an expert, pal.
That's ignorant. I loved them keeds. I'd NEVER do ANYthinG to hurt them keeds.

There's the other side. Are you happy?

And are you an expert in this because you parrotted talking points given to you from the Jackson estate?
> noteworthy how you refuse to even mention the points i brought up.
they're nonsense distractions. you literally haven't even watched the movie lol.

>Culkin said nothing ever happened and I would believe him over any of these nobodies or MJ.
Well yeah that's why you don't fuck rich and famous kids. You fuck the nobodies that degenerate niggers like you won't trust.
>Because Culkin had nothing to profit from accusing or supporting MJ.
And he has a lot to lose from having his recent career resurgence get dragged back down into talking about how he got raped.

But yeah keep shilling. Do they pay for post?

How can I get into shilling for perverts? I'm going to hell anyway so it's no sweat off my balls.

this is for those who did not bother reading earlier post in thread

youtube.com/watch?v=6pnoQqlygQs&t=29s
youtube.com/watch?v=9yTTEwBLfUQ

>countless celebrities have actual criminal convictions of murder, rape, pedophilia, etc
>celebrities and msm memory hole these things, and continue to work with and celebrate these people
>mj is never convicted despite
multiple year long investigations
>celebrities and msm continue to target him years after his death

You can believe what you want, but the fact that this narrative is still pushed this hard as it is, is beyond suspicious.

I don't know but LN didn't convince me. It makes me even more believe he didn't do it.

OBSESSED

you're literally the reason kid's get raped.

As long as your overlords say something you're happy to consume their product. But if you think some "nobody" has "something to gain" from "getting justice for being fucking face raped" they can be ignored and attacked.

you're

literally

going

to

burn

in

hell

LMAO

>celebrities are always more believable because they have fame and money
You should be shot.

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Checked. Thanks for posting this.

Its not abuse if the kids were willing participants. I would have done the same in their situation. A life of luxury in exchange for sucking a dude's dick. What a bargain.

Probably because the jews arent interested in covering up for him anymore. So they let the truth come out since they don't care.

Why don't you watch the documentary you degenerate nigger? Why the fuck should anyone engage honestly with your propaganda when you refuse to reciprocate?

>dude just watch the movie lmao
yeah why even have due process and courts and shit when we can just watch movies

age 5-12, retard

I didn't say that at all. You're putting words in my mouth. MJ seems like an easy target and a scapegoat, that's why the victims claims are suspicious to me.

Answer me this, why would Culkin lie in his testimony?

Does the existence of other assholes mean that Michael Jackson wasn't one?
>but the fact that this narrative is still pushed this hard as it is, is beyond suspicious.
Why? The people that were raped by him didn't want him to get away with it.

Would you want your rapist to be remembered as a hero?

>Pedophilia is attraction to prepubescent children. Under 10 generally.

you make me feel sick.
NO
from the wiki

Although girls typically begin the process of puberty at age 10 or 11, and boys at age 11 or 12,[3] criteria for pedophilia extend the cut-off point for prepubescence to age 13

MJ WAS A TEXTBOOK PEDOPHILE.

He started grooming him from a very early age and got really, really tired of them when they hit puberty. he kept the older boys around for some time when he already had the replacement. it is a kind of post-grooming process used by pedos.

he met mac way earlier then at the set of "home alone". he eyed mac in the stage version of "the nutcracker" in nyc when mac was younger. he must have been around the age of 4 to 6 during that time.

DAE THINK ITS WEIRD HOW AUSTRALIA HAS POOLS!?!?!?!??!?!

MIGGEL A GOOD BOY

MIGGEL DINDU NUFFIN

you know how much of a massive difference there is between 5 and 12y olds?
There's 12y olds that are growing beards for fucks sake

LITERAL COWARD LMAOOOOOOO

unironically kill yourself you degenerate pervert

How many kids have you fucked? How much CP do you have saved on your computer?

also: mj probably made his boys shave pubic hair as soon as puberty started. even thinking about you guys defending this textbook pedo is nauseating.

as soon he got close to macaulay he talked about mac´s lips around other adults. HE HAD NO SHAME!

seek help

>you make me feel sick.
Why all the virtue signaling?
>MJ WAS A TEXTBOOK PEDOPHILE.
That's what I was arguing. The person I was responding to was the one saying he was an ephebophile

Another one of the books the police recovered from Jackson's home. The Boy, another legal CP book also done by George st Martin, a member of NAMBLA

amazon.com/Boys-Will-Georges-St-Martin/dp/B000OREMI0

seek a bullet for your brain stem you fucking pervert. You should have your face concaved by a fire extinguisher.

>liking 12yo isn't typical pedo shit

you're a moron or a pedo yourself

Why would MJ target a famous kid that has a lot of attention? Especially when there's evil idiots like you that only believe celebrities can do no wrong and think of regular people as evil.

I confused the posts then. sry
I do not virtue signal. I know how it´s like when people not believe you when you open up.

>Why all the virtue signaling?
I really feel dizzy and stuff. triggering is real.

He has always been guilty to me. Listen to his fucking talking voice: you can instantly tell he is a gay man. I mean super homosexual type of person

But he was a homosexual pederast predator. It would have been totally acceptable to come out as a Gay man and he would have even being the main star of various Gay Parade events if he would have identified with LGTB community: but he was certainly a whole different type of homosexual, the one that both gays and heterosexuals and even the LGBT community hates

Autographed photo that Jackson had of Macaulay Culkin amongst other photos of child actors and little boys who had stayed the night with him, all of which were found in Jackson's secret room with the CP.

I wonder why it had to be in a secret room?

>A former maid at the ranch, Adrian McManus, alleged she had seen Jackson kissing boys including the child star Macaulay Culkin, and described Jackson touching Culkin's leg and "rear end".[20] She also claimed that she had seen Jackson touching Chandler's genitals.[20] Culkin denied being molested by Jackson.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trial_of_Michael_Jackson

MJ neva deed nuthin dem white boys be lyin on heem agaeen smdh

>Answer me this, why would Culkin lie in his testimony?
same reason everyone lies when they're the victim of sexual abuse.

Had you watched the fucking movie they have a whole part where they talk about why people lie to protect their abusers. But you can't watch that because you're an enabler!

Seriously you're going to burn in hell.

Watch the fuckin documentry

Do you really think that Michael has developed a super plan with fake relationships, not touching famous young actors just to touch two boys when he probably had so much money that he could just buy a country and molest all the children there?

Mac was the pedo superstar. all of these sick fucks must have have orbitted him already as a stage star in nyc. even michael made first contact when mac was still a "broadway star".

Even having him as a close friend must have been a bliss to a pedo like mj. he had plenty of boys who sucked off his dick on the side. and it is still not out of the question that he abused mac as well.

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>ephebophile

Yikes.

Or maybe he raped Culkin too but he doesnt come out because he has too much to lose?

The Jackson estate don't even deny the emotional manipulation and exploitation and negligence of taking little boys out of school to go on tour with him. They don't deny he slept in bed with them for periods of a month or more uninterrupted, they don't deny 99% of the allegations against him except the final step, that it ever got sexual behind closed doors. An area where none of them ever had access to.

So what you're implying is that his entire freakish nature, his entire neverland bit, everything all the way he acted all pedoish was just so people wouldn't think he was a pedo? My god, you pedo apologists really need a bullet in the head.

Remember: women were not allowed to sleepovers with Jackson.

He had a sexual preference for young boys
mjfacts.com/mjs-bed-by-invitation-only/

Fans and pedophile defenders of Jackson insist that Jackson always slept on the floor when children shared his bedroom; he never invited children into his bed; and that he welcomed both boys and girls into his bed, equally, as part of an open door policy.

Girls were not welcome to sleepover parties.

Truth is:

Firstly, girls were dissuaded from sharing Jackson’s bed. Sister after sister has related that they only spent a night or two or three in Jackson’s bed before bowing out and choosing to sleep elsewhere. While it would appear that this could have been a result of mere discouragement from MJ — a consequence of Jackson and his young male friends not wanting girls around while they enjoy boyish pursuits – a revealing letter from the anguished sister of the Cascios shows that at times MJ specifically excluded girls.
mjfacts.com/mjs-bed-by-invitation-only/

>Wait until MJ is dead
>Make a documentary accusing MJ of being a pedo
If the accusations were true, they would have made the documentary when MJ was still alive so he's able to defend himself. Right now it's two men saying MJ molested them and recieving a load if money in exchange for saying it.

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pretty much what is going on on black twitter for the last couple of days

>Why would he have bells to alert him when someone was coming to the room he shared with the boys

I've been trying to give michael reasonable doubt since forever. Never heard of this but if its actually true I'm changing my mind right here. The regressed mental age and children as peers thing completely falls apart if he ensured privacy for his "sleepovers"

>If the accusations were true, they would have made the documentary when MJ was still alive so he's able to defend himself
Those two things have absolutely no logical correlation or relationship whatsoever you mentally disabled pederast advocate

>Adrian McManus

The same maid who stole from Michael to sell it on for profit and then got caught and sentenced in court and still owes his estate money?

If MJ was white he'd have been stuck in the bin a long time ago, but black people are insanely loyal to their entertainers and white people are nervous about getting on their bad side

Of course this was weird but it doesn't mean he fucked them. Show me evidence he fucked them but documentary with guys who before said he didn't do anything and have multiple versions isn't evidence.

>The fact is that there is no evidence that they lied all those years while denying abuse, but there is evidence of them lying numerous times during their current litigation, while making these sexual abuse claims. And these sexual abuse claims come with a lawsuit against Jackson’s entities in which Robson and Safechuck demand a monetary compensation.

>>Make a documentary accusing MJ of being a pedo
If the accusations were true, they would have made the documentary when MJ was still alive so he's able to defend himself.
They fucking did. They even made the one where Martin Bashir went over there and MJ openly admitted to sleeping with little boys. That was a major cause of the 2000s memes about him.

People have been talking about how he's a pedo for 30 fucking years now.

Yeah and he lost and now own Estate money

>show me physical evidence to corroborate with sexual abuse that took place 30 years ago
Based retard

members of the jackson clan pls leave

Why does nobody complain about parents? Who the fuck left your 7 yr old kid for a month in the home of 35yr stranger? They didn't even care if he could fuck them, they were literally selling them like prostitutes. They should go to jail along with this nigger.

I'd steal from Micheal too. That nigger fucked kids.

Don't they make you read the crucible at that high school you go to?

He's gone back and forth on whether MJ had sex with him, and also on whether he sees it as abuse, IIRC.

There were many parallels between Savile and Jackson. They both had a kind of 'hiding in plain sight' attitude to being a paedo - if you act really weird and make it obvious, people will dismiss the possibility because it's SO obvious.

Physical evidence doesn't exist even then

If MJ could defend himself, no one would believe the doc.

Indeed. Savile was just an evil cunt though. Jackson at least potentially didn't see what he was doing as wrong.

I wish I was a member of the Jackson clan, then I'd afford to pick up some good stuff on eBay.

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>black guy says "kike" in one song
>gets a forever pass by white racists to facefuck white kids

Yet the FBI found him innocent because it's all a load of bullshit in an attempt to smear MJ and make money.

What would physical evidence constitute in your mind
MJ defended himself for decades and usually got in more trouble doing it

mac on stage as a 4 year old. mj found a way to get backstage and met mac for the first time. mj says so himself in an interview. when mac shot "home alone" they already were "friends".

>the FBI
The FBI didn't lead the investigation

>found him innocent
No one gets found "innocent", the verdict is "not guilty" which just means they couldn't prove beyond all reasonable doubt

>Yet the FBI found him innocent

correction: the FBI found hat MJ had child porn stashed in his house

>people still haven't watched the razorfist rebuttel
Yea Forums rea,ly is full of hollykike jews who want to destroy MJ after he called them out as the filthy rat faced greasy cunts they are.
Let me tell you something goyim, there is NOTHING and NO ONE as bitter as a kike. They'll never drop their grudges. They even have a grudge against God himself after they killed his son and he told them to fuck off.
They are the most disgusting of creatures. More animal than human. Oh and here's the most hilarious thing, every jew is a coward. A filthy cowardly scum rat. He can't fight. He can't stand his ground. He lies his way out of fights. They're not even men. Just animal scum. Cowardly and wicked.
It's hilarious because MJ never fiddled kids but every jew fantasizes about pedophilia. It's in their nature as filthy animal cowards.

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I don't recall anyone fucking 7yr old boys for years. Jackson is the worst kind of creature.

We should kill all kids and there would be no problems

There was actual evidence against Saville and not just word of mouth trial by media

I mean just look at the guy. Does he NOT look like a pedo?

It wouldn't be so obvious if he didn't particularly choose to surround himself with pretty little whiteboys, if he had more fat kids or mullatos or Asians at least he could portray himself as a philanthropist and not just trying to create a harem

Doctor examined one boy who said he was molested and found no signs of harassment if I remember correctly

It was legal CP.

>Yet the FBI found him innocent
That's not how that works. The FBI did a scheduled search of his house and didn't find evidence that he fucked kids. They aren't judges or juries. They don't "find you innocent."

Almost like MJ has people that clean his fucking house or something!

Ian Watkins is the obvious one, although that was mostly girls.

No they didn't. themichaeljacksonallegations.com/2017/01/01/did-the-fbi-have-evidence-that-michael-jackson-paid-off-dozens-of-young-boys-to-silence-them-after-he-sexually-abused-them/

Just look up Metzitzah B'Peh

>Bashir: “Did you ever sleep in the bed with them (the Arvizo brothers)?”

>Jackson: “No. But I have slept in a bed with many children.
“I slept in a bed with all of them when Macaulay Culkin was little: Kieran Culkin would sleep on this side, Macaulay Culkin was on this side, his sisters in there…we all would just jam in the bed, you know.
“We would wake up like dawn and go in the hot air balloon, you know, we had the footage. I have all that footage.”

Sorry wrong link themichaeljacksonallegations.com/2016/12/27/has-child-pornography-ever-been-found-in-michael-jacksons-possession/

>coffee table art book of boys playing clothed.
>child porn.
Hmmm. So amazing all the kiddy porn they found and didn't bring up in the 2003 case or charge him with.

There is absolutely nothing wrong in finding teen boys attractive.

So you acknowledge that no physical evidence could possibly emerge at this time and your requirement that the documentary supply it is entirely idiotic

Yeah it's sound funny but
>All three of these books are in the United States’ Library of Congress

>have all that footage.
Jackson tries to tell that because he shared his bed with Mac, Keiran, and their sisters, and he has “footage,” this makes his habit of sleeping with children all above board. His statement is a sleight of hand. Jackson rarely shared his bed with more than one child, and on this occasion it’s not even clear that the Culkin sisters were in the bed: note that when Jackson says “in there,” he points back behind Bashir’s shoulder, an indication the girls may have actually slept apart from the males. The footage Jackson refers to had been taken the next day, so it has nothing to do with what occurred in the bedroom the night before.

Jackson’s statement also creates a puzzle. If he said that he slept “with Mac on one side and Keiran on the other,” that means he had ample room in his bed for several people. Conversely, his reason he gave for sleeping on the floor while the Arvizos were in his room was “I gave him the bed because he has a brother named Star, so him and Star took the bed and I went along on the sleeping bag.”

It’s unlikely Jackson slept on the floor when the Arvizo boys were in his bed for reasons of space, so why does he imply that? If he were to reveal the real reason — that he realizes sharing a bed with children is largely taboo in society’s eyes and leaves his actions open to possible lawsuits — it would invalidate his feigned unawareness of why he should have ceased not only continuing the practice but also defending it after the 1993 allegations.

There's a difference between finding teen boys attractive and actually having sex with them, and there is a further difference between that and fucking 7 year olds.

They weren't teens yet. He ejaculated inside the mouth of a 7 year old boy.

>>coffee table art book of boys playing clothed
>>clothed
>he doesn't know
oh boy

The photos of unclothed little boys and the one with the kid's pants pulled down arent though

>It was legal CP.
proof of mj being a pedophile.

Yes it is unless you are 13 yr old girl max, otherwise, you are gay or pedo.

Some of them were naked, though. You can look up the pictures on google. Its okay, since its legal child porn.

sorry not child porn, magazines filled with pictures of naked kids, my mistake

>coffee table art book of boys playing clothed.
pretty fucking weird even if that's all it was.

it featured full frontal nudity and was made my a pederast

And again, why not just watch the doc instead of obsessing about shit from 15 years ago?

What's it like missing your foreskin kike?
Also why do you jews like to fuck kids so much. I'm honestly interested in why jews are so fucked up mentally.

Yes because these two have changed versions several times saying that they were molested and not molested and have a documented history of trying to get money from Jackson.
Forgive me that I believe in a court ruling or fbi investigation more than people like them.

.gif is from the music video "bubbles burst" from sean lennon who also was a special BOY-friend of MJ for many years.

youtube.com/watch?v=nxH8Bc0cHok

>state fact
>FUCKING MENTALLY ILL JEW
lmao sweatie pls

logic, how does it work?

pic related

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What photos? themichaeljacksonallegations.com/2016/12/27/has-child-pornography-ever-been-found-in-michael-jacksons-possession/

so your hatred of jews is greater than your desire to NOT see white boys get raped by black men?

*Art books

There was some old guy who had vintage CP books of young boys but the police couldn't do shit because the books were legal and the old guy said he finds the pictures artistic anyway. The truth is; MJ probably found the pictures to be artistic too.

Do you mean sweety kike?
Jews really aren't smart are you? It's hilarious because after your kikes were kicked out of the nobel committee not one kike got a prize from that year onward.
Hey what's the IQ like in israel? Like low 90's or something right?
Tell me kike what's it like to be hated by God so much because you just can't help but fuck little kids and worship demons?

could you do me a favor and artistically fuck yourself?

The Talmud allows them to fuck kids from age 3 and up.

Art is subjective. Just because we don't see it as art doesn't mean everyone else has the same opinion as us.

lpbp

Read this please and you should know what I'm talking about themichaeljacksonallegations.com/2019/02/25/a-critical-analysis-of-leaving-neverland/

Don't you find it suspicious that someone who owns pictures with naked young boys, also sleeps, cuddles and writes love letters to young boys?

full lyrics

In 1983
In a Texas facility
He was just a few months old when they
Told him he was sold
They flew the primate pet
Upon a private jet
And off to Neverland where he
Met the impish man
Feasting on candy
And dressed like a dandy
Bubbles was treated
Like no other chimpanzee
Transported to a planet made of toys, bananas, and games
Childhoods end
And Bubbles burst
We met in the arcade
Playing video games
We both could not believe it was
Like living in a dream
We didn't understand
Dancing with Peter Pan
What would be the result when we
Turned into young adults
Feasting on candy
And dressed like a dandy
Bubbles was treated
Like no other chimpanzee
Transported to a planet made of toys, bananas, and games
Childhoods end
And Bubbles burst

( lennon made clear that the monkey is just a stand in for kid he was )

>The truth is; MJ probably found the pictures to be artistic too.
Yeah while he was jerking off to them.

Like I'm an artist. Can't say that, even if there was a REALLY artistically shot book of naked boys, I'd still not want to own it. Or look at it. Or support the people that made it.

But maybe that's just me. Maybe I'm the weirdo for not finding child nudity "artistic."

meant for

aint clicking that shit. i m on twitter, youtube, Yea Forums since I saw the doco. dont need that damage control by mj-drones.
people are getting woke to the nonce question one country at a time. yesterday it was aired in the netherlands. soon it will be germany. can´t wait until they rename the rollercoaster named after mj in a theme park in germany.

>sleeps with
He slept in the same room never the same bed.
Michael's room was the size of a two story house.

No, he didn't do it

All the sad fucks who defend this pedophile nigger pederast homosexual predator would not have felt comfortable leaving their child alone 5 minutes with him

Even the manager at Neverland ranch who handled most of Michael's stuff told the other coworkers when her child was visiting the place that "Never leave my child alone with Michael Jackson without supervision"

>He slept in the same room never the same bed.
Not true.

Why not just watch the documentary?

Are you being paid?

So its okay? Having pictures of naked kids and sleeping with them?

>i'll make up lies to defend a rich celebrity pedo
What kind of person does this? Please let me know more about you.

I watched the documentary. You want me to believe two proven liars who had their cases thrown out of court twice and had to make a documentary to try and extort money from the estate?
Mcauly Culkin made it clear that that was how it was. In the documentary Safechuck even says that they never slept in the same room and MJ always went to another room to sleep.

One side doco, I do not want to convince you, but you should read the other side and form your opinion on this basis.

According to
>The Franklin Cover Up
so are the pederasts.

>We didn't understand
>Dancing with Peter Pan
>What would be the result when we
>Turned into young adults
right, sean. would you pls tell us what the result was?

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