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Fuck you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Starting early I see.

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>The Great Outdoors
This seems like a sequel to something but isn't

Section 31 is pretty badass. I'd love to see a spin-off show.

>Say one (1) positive thing
i'm not watching it, you can't make me watch it, and i'm not gonna watch it. ;^) that's 3.

why not both?

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It made me hate women just a little bit more

The Vorta have devotion to the Founders put into them at a nearly genetic level alongside a lifetime of loyalty conditioning.
The only one to ever come close to abandoning the Dominion was Keevan and he got what he deserved in the end.

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Weyoun 6 defected. It does happen, but it is rare since they were literally designed for loyalty.

>CBS shelled out money for this abortion to air
>people would rather line up for hours to meet the guy that plays secondary characters

Captain Pooenloo

But you would think that through so many cloning processes there would be errors. That's why there are so many versions of Weyoun. Even one of them wanted to defect but they turned his chip on. You would think if even the Jem'Hadar can get past the white the Vorta could get past their genetic implant

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The emperor has no clothes. Sorry, it's just not that good.

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it's a terrible movie that for some reason i saw like 50 times

>Candy and Ackroyd
The steak eating scene is Amerikino
youtube.com/watch?v=gc_5tx7xRlg

And they were literally designed for psychic abilities but that ended quickly. With the Dominion covering the entire Gamma quadrant I'm sure there are more instances of Weyoun 6 occuring, I mean there is a reason that genetic implant off switch is there, but I guess we only view the Dominion war through The Federation's perspective we don't see everything going on over there

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how come chacootie and bajorans believe in pretend spiritual stuff but literally everyone else is smart enough not to?

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Yikers

Religion is a good substitute for a personality.

It's the other way around fedorahead

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But the Bajoran deities exist? Is it "spiritual" if the Prophets objectively do exist and have effects on Bajor?

is there a mega of tonights ep? How was it??

Because muh noble savages even in the 25th century are tied to the ether while everyone else is sterile and has their heads up their own asses.

Jeffrey Combs is a fucking chameleon

He's a great actor and the people who do his prosthetic make-up are great as well

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I love DISCO!

But I am a bitter Trekkey fanboy blinded by not white (because I don't care that much about race), but a little bit of incel rage.
Also the show is garbage.

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Here's the recap
Michael Burnham saves everyone

>“Nimoy is a gnostic mystic—a radical spiritualist, indeed, a spiritual rebel…I am suggesting that Nimoy’s fascination with the female body involves an element of temptation as well as transcendence. I am suggestion that what is really unusual about his female figures is that they signify profane and sacred love simultaneously…The issue that Nimoy’s photographs subtly address is the transmutation of sexual desire into spiritual aspiration…It is Nimoy’s ability to convey woman’s many-sidedness—Shekhina and Succubus at once—that makes his photographs profound.” - Donald Kuspit

>The shekhinah represents the feminine attributes of the presence of God, shekhinah being a feminine word in Hebrew, based especially on readings of the Talmud.

why did spock like magic pussy so much?

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Orville GOAT as always

Pretentious word salad.

Pon Farr

I was hoping Michael's weird relationship with Spock would have been her taking advantage of him when he first went through it.

His son is a lucky bastard

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manyvids.com/Video/930783/Jadzia-Dax-Eats-and-Ignores-You/

bro there's no way magic is just tfw no gf
demons angels sigils it's all real
gene was a 33rd degree scottish-rite mason there's no way he was just part of a pre-discord fraternity shitposting their inside jokes while he banged perfect star trek gfs

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That's how you get women naked.

No, I do it with threats of violence.

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what i dislike the most about start trek is how the federation is seemingly invincible

>4 dollars for literally nothing
The world deserves to end.

It's real easy to avoid watching.

I miss shitposting in the streams though but it''s not worth sitting though another season.

Watch DS9. The only reason they win is because of the prophets

Bumping for ValleyForge's face and a fresh GF.

Thoughts on the depiction of militarism and racism in the Federation, in Undiscovered Country?

kino and more based than the forced attempts at it in STD

manyvids.com/Video/987241/Dax-Eats-Wanderlust/
manyvids.com/Video/987279/Dax-pops-alien-balloons-in-this-video/

Oh no, she's gonna pop that balloon! SHE'S GONNA POP THAT BALLOON!

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I miss those threads too but let's be honest, the second season is too painful to watch. I can't watch an entire episode, I always end up skipping most scenes. I don't think I'll watch the 3rd season.

is this BF?

Imagine kidnapping a couple of emo lesbians and making them act out erotic star trek based scenes in the secret dungeon you built under your house. That would be so weird hahaha

The Orville sucks. Another perfect example of why it deserved to be cancelled.

Fucking SHUTUP about yourself for 10 minutes, JEEEZus.

Calm down and pop some balloons.

>it's another Q episode

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You are such a faggot

Off yourself.

dum idiot

low iq plebbitoid spotted

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That episode was okay. Didn't think Leyland wouldn't know about the talosians ability to make illusions. That's kind of their thing.

This is really cringy VF

section 31 has to be 25% different from DS9 so they're clueless retards

can't wait for doomdork and midnight's edge to explain how The Cage was actually produced by Bad Robot and isn't canon.

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Yeah, sure, and Sarek is a cross-dimensional nexus between universes.

STD was very good this week

Apologize

I believe you, but I'm still not going to watch it because STD is still shit overall.

wait is the Red Angel actually Jennifer Goines

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What the fuck are you talking about? This is a Star Trek thread?

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>Even if the Jem'Hadar need the white the ones that defected were trying to rid themselves of it and the Dominion.
The Jem Hadar that defected rebelled against the Vorta, they never indicated that they'd take up arms against the founders. The closest they got to that was when the one guy, the only one who wasn't dependent on the white began to question if the Founders really deserved the Jem Hadar's loyalty. As for the Vorta, I don't think we ever see a Vorta who even questioned the Founders' deity, let alone consider rebelling against them.

actually for legal reasons it's "Stir Trok"

I was pretty impressed with the 12 Monkeys ending. It's not something sci-fi shows usually pull off. Another good one was Person of Interest, and even then, that one was more of a crime drama/sci-fi hybrid, although it definitely went more sci fi at the end.

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> As for the Vorta, I don't think we ever see a Vorta who even questioned the Founders' deity, let alone consider rebelling against them.

Weyoun 6. If even just one I could bet there would be more

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>Weyoun 6
Weyoun 6 didn't believe in the war, I wouldn't say that's the same as denying that the Founders are gods. He was, at the end of the day, still trying to save them, and Odo, by warning him about the plague. While there may be defects that lead to disobedience, the whole "we are your gods" gimmick seems to be coded successfully at the deepest level.

i just watched last week's std episode and it was fucking trash

no you just cant handle the fact that this is the age of strong WoC sweatie

Q is probably my favourite alien. Something so vastly different from humanity we can't even comprehend it, yet finite and limited in it's own way, not imnipitant

I like how they used him fairly sparsely. There's plenty of episodes with Q but anymore would be too many.

It's not even a meme anymore. It just isn't very good.

They are technically gods to them as they created them, but even slaves can usurp their masters, there must have been more than just W6 considering the expanse of the Dominion Empire

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ash tyler

Tonights Orville was god damn solid

with how much space voyager covered, how come in every alternate future they're still fucking around in the DQ?

maybe this is going to sound like the most retarded question ever.

I started watching DS9 and i in season 5 now.
i love the show, maybe the best after TOS. The characters are great.
But this is the question.
Why the fuck the people in the voyager didnt used the wormhole to come back?
I only watched till season 3 of voyager.

i don't actually dislike std that much. just thought that episode was particularly awful. i'm talking about the kaminar episode btw

they just shit all over the prime directive and pike doesn't even give saru a reprimand or anything.
why is pike written like a pussy? is it because he's a wh*te m*le?

>They are technically gods to them as they created them,
Not necessarily.Your parents created you, I'm guessing you don't worship your parents as gods? The programming the Founders encode in their servants is deeper than that. It's not just the belief that the Founders are their masters, it's the belief that the Founders are superior to all solids, and therefore hold the divine right to dominion over all solid life.
>but even slaves can usurp their masters, there must have been more than just W6 considering the expanse of the Dominion Empire
For sure it's not just W6, but we also can't forget that the while the Vorta are loyal to the Founders, they're not loyal to each other. This can't be an accident; the Founder surely realized that defective slaves, like what you're talking about, could pose a risk if placed in positions of influence. Therefore, the vorta are programmed to be maniuplative, cunning, and decietful, so that people won't trust them, and they won't trust themselves. Loyalty can be shown only to the Founders. This is a tactic dictators throughout history have used; setting their subordinates to work against one another, so as to break down any loyalty that wasn't directed at the head of state, and strengthening that loyalty at the same time.

>that map.
I've never seen a Star Trek map that made sense. Kes's "gift" was 9500 light years, yet on this map it's about the same distance between Voyager's start point and the start of Borg space. At the start of the series, they say they're 75 000 light years from Federation territory, and they say that'll take ~75 years. So if they were doing 1000 light years per year, by the end of S3 they'd have covered ~3000 light years. Kes's gift should be ~3x as long, as the distance between the series start point and start of Borg space, and by extension, Borg space should be 3x as long as well.

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i'm black though

>i'm black though

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I asked this question too

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>Not necessarily.Your parents created you, I'm guessing you don't worship your parents as gods?
No I worship God that created them and their ancestors. Even though I know my creator, there are those that reject him

>the belief that the Founders are superior to all solids, and therefore hold the divine right to dominion over all solid life.
And the Dominion War proves they aren't superior as they can't win it outright like a god

>For sure it's not just W6, but we also can't forget that the while the Vorta are loyal to the Founders, they're not loyal to each other. This can't be an accident; the Founder surely realized that defective slaves, like what you're talking about, could pose a risk if placed in positions of influence. Therefore, the vorta are programmed to be maniuplative, cunning, and decietful, so that people won't trust them, and they won't trust themselves. Loyalty can be shown only to the Founders. This is a tactic dictators throughout history have used; setting their subordinates to work against one another, so as to break down any loyalty that wasn't directed at the head of state, and strengthening that loyalty at the same time.
Now you are just making me want a spin off of a group of Weyouns working together trying to overthrow the Dominion and trying to usurp one another

>I've never seen a Star Trek map that made sense.
Neither have I It's just one of the many random trek maps I have but together they assemble a rough outline of what the galaxy should look like

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One Jemhadar out of probably billions who was also in a position to starve and realize his immunity.
There probably aren't billions of Vorta.

>One out of billions
But it happened
>There probably aren't billions of Vorta.
That doesn't matter because Vorta are smarter and more cunning

One thing Voyager did keep consistent was that the closer they got to the center of the galaxy, the older and more technologically advanced societies got. Everyone before the Nekrit Expanse was ghetto trash not only because they're younger, but because the spiral arms are less dense there, ergo fewer natural resources.

Bajor wormhole leads to the Gamma quadrant, not the Delta.

>Why the fuck the people in the voyager didnt used the wormhole to come back?
The most direct route was straight back to the Alpha quadrant and they had the chance to explore an uncharted region of space. My opinion is that she knew that they would be transported there and was sent to reach other space-faring civilizations unknown to The Federation

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Confess

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I hate you.

I love you.

At least you're content.

ew. Imagine replying to yourself saying you are at least content. This is just sad at this point bro. inb4 you screencap you aren't the same person (we know you are). Just fuck off to your discord bullshit and go away

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I haven't even seen any of it. Honestly I'd forget it existed if I didn't pop into these threads and see it mentioned once in awhile.

>Honestly I'd forget it existed
That's a great tagline for STD actually

Yeah, you can go fuck yourself.

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Yeah we know you can manipulate screenshots buddy that's why I said that...

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>being a conspiretard about this
Let me guess, you also unironically think STD shills come here and get payed to post.

add "you believe in conspiracy theories so your opinions are invalid"
and "anything related to the modernisation of the original series is disgusting"
and "insert outlier episode here is real star trek and therefore makes it good"

STD Spock is better than 2009 Spock

add "if IP holders consider it canon then it legally is canon, no debate"

add "ew -insert content creator here that makes fun of discovery-"

The crazy thing is that they do, and you do it for free don't you?

add "who cares that it shares almost nothing in common with old trek, they did a job that outweighs that, they brought new fans into trek who then explored old trek and expanded the franchise so lets share what trek has done and spread it to a new audience"

Oh I agree with you. I just wanted to make a witty comeback. I made the bingo card btw, how do you like it?

Add it yourself, honestly my material gets the point across a bit more succinctly.

I like pike!

already making an edit

The magnum opus put out by Midnight's Edge is wrong. (As with every Conspiracy Theory they put out as clickbait.) It is quite simple what canon is: "what the owner of the license says it is regarding tv and movie productions" The rest is making muddy waters to confuse you. This video should have been 2 min long, because that's all it takes to realize it is imposing his personal opinion and wish-fulfillment fantasy onto reality.

memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Canon

Multiple quotes directly from CBS officials demonstrate what the IP holders consider canon. Simply, canon in Star Trek is defined as television and movie productions officially sponsored/created by the IP holder. Even licensed products are not canon unless they say it is, which is why stuff like the Star Trek Encylopaedia and novels are not canon. There are also different "variations of canon" which is why Star Trek Online is also considered a kind of canon by the IP holders. IN fact, the GAME is a direct continuation of the story.

He goes on to say that writers and producers often don't even pay attention to continuity or what came before." Why? Because it's irrelevant to the policy of canon in star trek.

There is no debate here. It's black and white. If they say it is canon, it is.

how do you like it?
Not at all. Come here to talk about Star Trek.

I feel bad for you. Knowing that there are shills that get paid way more than you do to push whatever they are selling, but you, you do it for free.

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Worst Star Trek episode? Sub Rosa is my pick.

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And who says they get to decide what canon is?

The faggot that spams in these threads constantly apparently

>There are also different "variations of canon" which is why Star Trek Online is also considered a kind of canon by the IP holders. IN fact, the GAME is a direct continuation of the story.

not entirely true, although the devs have tried very hard to adhere to canon as much as possible and not pull shit like the "Destiny" novels where the Borg show up and wipe out a bunch of planets and characters just to be edgy, have a lame origin story and then get defeated forever.

and the STO story will bend to whatever the Picard show does.

Season 2 just grew its beard after losing it with the death of Lorca.

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>And who says they get to decide what canon is?
The legal system. Pretty open and shut case of "If they say so, it is." Which makes this whole video a fanfiction attempt to rewrite reality.

Why should I recognize the authority of this faggot (and by extension that of the IP rights holders)?

Move Along Home or The Fight. a strong case could be made for many TOS episodes but honestly half of that is just from them being from such a different time. Disclaimer: I never watched TAS so maybe something in there is even worse.

The prophets and the aliens chakotay believe in are real.

There is no evidence STD is not canon, since canon is, once again, television, film and what the IP holder says it is. There is no other standard.
The exception to the movie/show rule is Star Trek online, which they have said is canon.

>The legal system.
Please show me the legal stautes dealing with the arbitration of fictional "canon"... I'll wait.

>which they have said is canon.
source?

>Why should I recognize the authority of this faggot (and by extension that of the IP rights holders)?
You shouldn't. Just laugh at him

Literally Google it and any statement they made.
Pointing out continuity errors is a red herring. Contradictions, errors etc don't exclude something from being canon. It merely means the producers don't give a shit about accuracy. Accuracy is not a criterion for canonical status.

The flaw in your argument is your assumption of a false criterion for qualification. There is only 1 criterion that matters: if they say so. The historical standard is "television and film," which is itself merely a product of their whim. You can write the worst, most continuity-nonsensical show and still have it be canon if the IP Gods say so.

There is no universe in which I am wrong; STD is, in fact, canon. It's a star trek show in the prime timeline by their own statement. Ergo, it is canon. All arguments to the contrary are automatically wrong.

STD is not even on television so that line of argument can be easily discarded.
Keep pretending that this is even the main problem people have with the show though, or that we would care if the show was decent.

>There is no evidence STD is not canon, since canon is, once again, television, film and what the IP holder says it is. There is no other standard.
I never said anything of the sort. You are just a wound up toy ready to spring at anyone criticizing std. Thanks for proving my point

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>Why should I recognize the authority of this faggot (and by extension that of the IP rights holders)?
Except I am the only one using the actual standard set by the licensees of the IP, so your argument falls flat on its face. ME says nothing of value. He just states it is not canon repeatedly (ignoring actual canon standards) to make his video longer for monetization purposes. Star Trek canon is, has always been, and will always be for the foreseeable future "whatever the IP owners say it is---historically that being TV and movies." STD is an official star trek show. Ergo, it is canon unless they say otherwise.

I don't even watch STD, so whether I would enjoy it or not is immaterial.

Again, it is like if you hated the new Star Wars trilogy because Kylo and Rey suck. Good to know, but irrelevant. Disney decides what is and is not canon as do the owners of the Star Trek IP. You can believe it is not canon because you hate it, but it still is. Belief is no more required for STD to be canon than belief is required for gravity to exist.

Is Pike the first captain where Kirk fans and Picardfags can agree he's good?

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>Literally Google it
I'll be sure to do that just as soon as you google "burden of proof." You can also look up "appel to ignorance" while you are at it.
>Pointing out continuity errors is a red herring...
I asked you to show the legal statues that you claim exist. That was my first (and still primary) involvement in your arguement with at least one other user. So... Can you provide them or not?

I hope he fucking shaves now that he's back

I think you need to check into a hospital

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midnight's edge is an axanar shill circlejerk, although I'm not sure where things stand now since alec peters is suing robert meyers burnett, who is in midnight's edge, and also hates vic mignogna's guts while the midnight's edge people are doing the "#IStandWithVic" thing

Nothing circular about my argument. I am applying the definition of the concept of Canon to the canon policy of the studio that owns the IP.

A. Canon is an authoritative official recognition of a body of work. Determining what is not accepted as official standard is the prerogative of the owners of the IP.

B. Historically, the standard of what is canon is TV and Film.

C. STD is TV officially licensed and stated to be in the prime canon universe.

D. Ergo, STD is canon until otherwise stated.

I don't need to watch STD to make a claim about its canonical status. The two are not related.

ME can give all the explanations he wants, but none of his rant has changed anything. Nothing in his video alters the canon policy of paramount/CBS--that they determine what is and is not canon and that live action tv/film are canon.

>Except I am the only one using the actual standard set by the licensees of the IP
Again, why should the standards set by the IP holders be considered? What is to prevent someone unrelated setting their own standards?

axanar can fuck off it destroyed the fanfilm industty
>selling axanar branded coffee
>lying about tony todd
>selling axanar branded model kits
>alec peters stealing all the money to fund his own production studio
>being honestly a big mess considering it hasnt been released yet
They've had years and they don't even have to make it full movie length now

STD is only 25% Star Trek

>Nothing circular about my argument.
Never stated this. Feel free to point to where I (and I stress "I" and not what some other user) did.

Still waiting for that link to those legal statues. Only thing I ever asked...and still waiting. This discussion can not continue until you either provide them or recant your claim.

Don't waste your time with the resident troll spammer...

I believe that STD is "Prime". Prime being, of course, the alternately licensed representation of the original timeline, which I guess has it's own canon now. And given how much they have talked about multiverses throughout all of nuTrek it is easy to imagine an officially sanctioned universe where only the old stuff happened.

Consistency, errors, continuity--none of that jibberish matters to what is and is not canon, quite simply.
The global discussion is to determine whenever Discovery is 'Canon' to the Star Trek IP. The argument is attempting to be made that it is not. Therefore you are required to disprove the claim that it is not canon, with backing evidence. Who owns the IP? CBS. Who makes the decision about what is and is not part of it's canon? CBS. It's very simple and black and white.

There is no proof for any of this.
Yet it's still Star Trek.

I am simply exercising your cognitive reasoning by presenting you with the arguments you must refute that are present in the wider society.

>The global discussion
I don't give a shit. You said their were legal statutes. I want to see them so I can determine the truth of the matter for myself.. If one of the (if not the core) point of your positition is based on these stautes then surely you would be able to provide them, yes?

I just want to see them. I don't know what the big issue is for you.

>There is no proof for any of this.
But the truth or falseness of that should be irrelevant to your argument just now. So are you saying it matters if it turns out to be true?

What's the name of the Section 31 ship in DSC?

This. Axanar was a con job to get money out out of Trek. All the evidence points to it. CBS had to protect their ip.
Outside the axanar circlejerk its pretty well known how shitty they are, they broke all the goodwill CBS had. They could have killed Star Trek Continues too, but it didn't because STC and STNV were good bous. They got their sets licensed as an official attraction.

so has Midnight's Edge tried to claim the version of the Enterprise from The Cage and Where No Man Has Gone Before is 25% different from the Enterprise in the rest of TOS yet

"prime" is the original timeline. it's the same canon.

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Nigger I'm not the person you think you are talking to

>That would be so weird hahaha
What's so weird is that you describe it using past tenses.

Who's to say it didn't already happen?

NCIA-93

all you STD faggots talking about canon have no idea what you're talking about, STD is Prime, but it isn't canon.

youtube.com/watch?v=ojtX_Oz4WsU

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Nope. You literally discredit yourself by quoting Midnight's Edge. It has been refuted countless times like everything else they put out.

youtu.be/hl3ghrFhYfc

Is it normal for shuttles of the period to have transporters? I don't recall that being the case in the original series.

No matter how many times you post and quote stuff it's still not canon. You understand right?

No matter how many times you conspiracy theorists and outrage mobs post and quote stuff of other conspiracy theorists and outrage mobs it's still canon. You understand right?

which period you dumb nigger?

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You don't decide what is canon and what is it. Get over this childish mentality. The owners of the IP do.

Nope. There is no canon if there are no fans, and there are no fans of STD. Checkmate. DEUCES FAGGOT

Nope. It's the fans. And there are no fans of your BULLSHIT. GET FUCKED

>"prime" is the original timeline. it's the same canon.
That's not immediately obvious given the known facts. The term itself only appeared as a result of the reboot flicks, which were definitely alternately licensed, so the prime universe depicted there was something different from canon. And considering the legal fuckery concerning merchandise that caused JJ to have a bitch fit and leave, as well as what RMB said about the legal wall between the old and new stuff, it's a valid question.

>taking some rando youtube fag over an actual insider that's worked on the trek franchise and been involved with it for years
you're the one that discredited yourself here dumbass, you clearly didn't watch the video since the entire interview was about this guy memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Robert_Meyer_Burnett

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Imagine being this worked up about some eceleb.

not an argument

>I don't recall that being the case in the original series.
Was that not clear enough? In Kirk's time period? Late 23rd century?

Don't you dare fucking kill this guy off. He needs to co-star with Georgiou and Ash in the new show.

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>irreverent huwhite m*le
He's dead.

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Assuming the Red Angel is a character that we have already met, who do you think it is? Spock referred to it as a she and told Burnham it is definitely human.

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Damn I didn't know they were this progressive

Now me and my biracial-trans-polysexual-genderkin girlfriend and I can feel proud to be a gay couple now that it is presented on the tv.

My baby dady's girl takiesha is super happy as well. She finna have some good role models with Michael (Also we are naming her Shaun as a bi-gender neutral name) Finally Star Trek is black just like my child! After all space is black, the future is certainly black as well. It's great the media finally represents the future of this world and beyond!

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Saru's sister

>human

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imagine not being able to talk about Star Trek for the past 3 years without someone derailing the conversation with disinfo that always comes from the same youtubers.

probably Michael, could be Airiam but it seems like the three dots put her on team "wipe out all sentient life in the galaxy". unless future Airiam was part of that and then regretted it, hence Spock's lines about the Red Angel being very lonely.

what, Saru didn't mention his adopted human sister? ;^)

Clearly she was replaced by a Section 31 undercover operative at some point; unclear if this occured before or after Saru's exile.

Wouldn't Spock recognize his sister from mind-melding though?

Also where did the 'evil robots from space' thing come from? I've heard people mention there's some race of robots that want to wipe out all sentient life but I only heard the something is trying to wipe out sentient life. I must had missed something. DSC sound quality is terrible on my end.

I'd like to be able to talk about Star Trek for the preceding 50 years without someone derailing the conversation with Kurtzman's infantile fanfic. We all need to make compromises.

Its clearly Burnham cant have something in the show not being connected to her somehow

Mirror Lorca was only vaguely.

you are a massive faggot

You mean the guy who didn’t even get his pitch for a Star Trek show rejected, it was never even heard because JJ Abrams got on board before he did? Can’t imagine why he’d have a bone to pick.

The most official thing he’s ever done is behind the scenes documentaries for the Star Trek TNG Blu-rays

>Wouldn't Spock recognize his sister from mind-melding though?
It conceivable that if she experienced something intense enough or lived long enough (and thus experienced a lot) that she could be "unrecognizable" to him. I don't its hard for us to see that arguement being made.
>Also where did the 'evil robots from space' thing come from?
No idea. It did pretty much come out of no where and tonight's episode barely even reference what we already know, much less introduced any more info.
>I've heard people mention there's some race of robots that want to wipe out all sentient life but I only heard the something is trying to wipe out sentient life.
Speculation. You heard correctly. That said, it is semi-logical to assume that anything that would try be wipe out all sentience wouldn't be sentient itself...at least not in the "traditional" sense (read:organic).

The best theory I have heard so far is that its somehow related to the people who altered V'ger but even that is a pretty far reach given the current level of evidence we have to support it.

>Mirror Lorca was only vaguely.
Mirror Lorca was obsessed with her. He made all his plans hinge on her and put his mission at risk multiple times just to involve/appease her.

Can anyone please answer my question?

No.

Listen, the concept of "canon" is completely fucked at this point. It is literally impossible to reconcile STD and TOS. What we knew as canon is out the window and as such it's now open to individual interpretation.

why would you even want to see that shit, STD's Section 31 is awful

This STD ep wasnt actually that bad, Pike and Saru still good, this Spock better than 2009 Spock.

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Nah it's the best part of this season so far.

this.
Section 31 is supposed to be some shadow organization like they were in DS9, not some fucking CIA niggers everyone knows about.

I'm at the hospital right now for treatment of a major nosebleed.

Pike and Saru are good but still unfortunately bland. Invested in the Ash and Hue(sp?) shit though. Section 31 is fun as always. Also glad Tilly had like 2 lines too. Wanna see more of that robot bitch and a little less Burnham but she wasn't insufferable today with a decent Spocko at her side.

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i'm not invested in the tyler-hue shit, but i did like Saru just let them duke it out.

I agree, I liked this Spock

also he said something about the suit having some kind of quantum shielding that didn't let him get anything besides "human" from the attempted mind-meld.

>It is literally impossible to reconcile STD and TOS.

visually, sure. but nobody can reasonably expect a show from the 1960s and a show from the 2010s to look like each other.

storywise, the only real problems are Michael and the Spore Drive. Michael not so much because Spock never talks about his family. and the Spore Drive... well, presumably May's species aren't the only inhabitants of the Mycelial plane. maybe somebody living there or the network itself decides to not allow it to be used for travel by ships from normal space.

also time travel can handwave anything.

I just think Ash is one of the best DSC characters though that's not saying much seeing his competition now that Lorca's dead. Didn't like him last season though. Hated Hue until today.

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Not that I recall

drop the fight music from Amok Time in that scene. it fits pretty well, especially since there was no music when they were actually fighting. wouldn't surprise me if they used it as a temp score.

Also work on your english. The grammar

Does anyone have the shill Bingo card handy?

Hey guys, it's nice that you are being paid to pretend to enjoy your new space adventure show, but could you keep it to your own legally distinct thread? You don't want to get Hiro sued now do you?

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Shove a tampon up there and walk it off, princess.

Thanks.

no u

The OrViLeee is reeeeaaaal Starr Trek!111111

what alien species is she

Don't worry you'll get it, you're pretty much there

yikers...

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>mentions the Orville out of nowhere
Yep, I'm marking that one off on my bingo card.

I think after tonight a certain show deserves a promotion.

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Who said i enjoyed it?
It's a garbage show, but this was an enjoyable episode soley because cow man stopped giving a fuck and the writers decided to watch The Cage.

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Thanks, I'm trying.

CBS here; you forgot to post the new image of our qween Michael "THE ONE WHO SLAAAAAYYYSSS YAAAAAS"

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>no City on the Edge of Forever

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When's this dude getting his own show?

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it was good just not top five of its season

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imfuckingplying

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in b4 it's 25% different because Tellar Prime looked different in ENT. if that's Tellar Prime. and maybe the red glow and asteroids are because other planets in the system got nuked first.

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Do you even watch the show?

So who else had the entire plot of this weeks Orville Figured out within minutes

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This can't be real...this just can't.

Add Ezri to the wide eyed section

Just wasn't 10/10 sci-fi

PROMENADE

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KLINGON'D.COM

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>Another nigger getting a show

“No!”

based "No!" poster

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I think you have Tellar and Vulcan switched. There is also the possibility that one of them is supposed to be some other well known planet (Qonos pops to mind but none of them really look green enough).

Where the fuck did Data even get Spot? Can you go to the replicator and ask for a cat?

It was a pretty boiler plate scifi story but it was at least executed fairly competently. Can't say I was thrilled but I don't regret watching it (the once) and I'm sure it was a cheap ep after all the expense from the previous two.

But Craft is great. So is Mudd but that's another TOS-period show and we have a lot of those.

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>youtube.com/watch?v=cDcyEhY8NAk

Have a sip and enjoy. No niggers touched the grapes that went into this wine rest assured. The only wine Damar ever drinks.

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Just because you say something doesn't mean it's true

>An annoying af mutineer
>An annoying, socially retarded idiot
>Two fag lovers
>A gangly monster that (was) terrified of everything

Was the Discovery created by Starfleet as a ship for its rejects?

Oh but it does, my little cuck.

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>Say one (1) positive thing about tonight's episode of DISCO (Star Trek Discovery) to prove you're not a bitter Trekkey fanboy blinded by white incel rage
Haven't watched it yet, but Pike is consistently the best thing about STD.

So Pike. I liked Pike.
Also.
>White incel rage
I like DS9 the best by far so...

>I'd love to see a spin-off show.
Already in the works, actually.
STD S2 in fact is what it is to a large degree deliberately to market an S31 show with Georgiou.
Look it up.
Not sure on the air date yet. I think next year or winter this year.

Journalists and people like you certainly wish it

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The episode received widespread critical acclaim and has been frequently stated to be the best episode of the entire franchise, with it fondly received by cast, crew, and critics. Elements such as the tragic ending were highlighted by several reviewers. It won several awards, including the Writers Guild of America Award for Best Episodic Drama on Television and the Hugo Award for Best Dramatic Presentation.

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>STD S2 in fact is what it is to a large degree deliberately to market an S31 show with Georgiou.
Fucking christ, no, please stop.

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>Fucking christ, no, please stop.
Too late. It was always too late.
>Was the Discovery created by Starfleet as a ship for its rejects?
I mean, look at it from an outsider's perspective.

This is a ship running on an experimental drive that presumably (at the time the project was approved) might turn its entire crew into swiss cheese.

Why would you use your A Team on something that's got a 1 in 30 chance to violently kill everyone?

This isn't a cursed image thread fuck off

STO isn't canon, it's semi-canon. The game respects the lore and canon established on the tv shows and the movies but since they also have the freedom to add their own spin to the universe none of their content is canon.

>This isn't a cursed image thread
Wrong

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The Cage (the episode) isn't canon but some of the events are, since they were used in The Menagerie.
Also "prime" doesn't mean canon, sorry CBS.

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>semi-canon
Do you even hear yourself?

And your source for this is some guy who thought that the pilot of STD would be about all the different universes converging around Sarek.

I think it's Qo'noS not Tellar.

Based mural

>STD baltently shows The Cage as it's "previously on star trek"
>hurrdurr The Cage isnt canon

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STD isn't canon, it's a glitch in the Bad Robot multiverse.

Bad Robot has nothing to do with STD. Do you have a source saying otherwise?

The cage was shown under an individual license that was purchased separately by bad robot, it is different to the license that Star Trek is being produced under that requires 25% difference

I asked for a source. Why are you incapable of delivering?

Robert Meyer Burnett

Not canon to me

Where does he say that STD is Bad Robot?

That isn't too far from where I live kek

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norn irish are another kind of mentally fucked, mate

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>visually, sure. but nobody can reasonably expect a show from the 1960s and a show from the 2010s to look like each other.
Bullshit. James Cawley did it on a shoestring budget and it looked fantastic. You could absolutely "modernize" elements of the original designs but it clashes so completely it doesn't make sense.

Wtf is this?

I know they are lel also is that actually in the game

If you removed every character that didn't appear in the original ToS pilot sans Tilly, it would be a show to rival the Orville.

>STD S2 in fact is what it is to a large degree deliberately to market an S31 show with Georgiou.
I think you hit the nail on the head of what's wrong with STD, shaky writing aside. It's not a show with a coherent direction, but one that's part Sec 31 show that misses the spirit of Trek' entirely, part entry-level Trek fanfiction about how Marissa Picard saves the day all day every day, and part comfy ENT Sqeual that just wants to be a love letter to the ToS, which is what Pike and Spock and the 100% era-accurate props allude to, but it's buried behind everyone else's horrible ideas.

Discovery season 2 is the show Discovery should have been all along. The rule that Star Trek shows aren't especially good in their first season before they figure things out continues to be true.

Also new Spock is a lot better than Quinto Spock. He was pure Spock this episode and I could imagine literally everything about him coming from Nimoy Spock.

The show is also shockingly good at being a prequel. It's the anti-Enterprise.

Thanks for supporting Star Trek: Discovery, only on CBS All-Access!

Every single week, The Orville rubs its balls all over Discovery's face.

It WOULD be a good prequel show if all the stuff I didn't detail above didn't drag it down like a ship's anchor. Just give us a show about Captain Pike's adventures on the Enterprise with the Pike/Spock dynamic as well as all the other characters.

That's your face covered with Cuck McFarlane balls, you pathetic degenerate

The show sucks.

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based and trannypilled

The Michael-Spock family stuff should have been the worlds biggest red flag for prequel content that absolutely should not work, and they have somehow pulled it off near flawlessly.

Not a single bit of it is cringe HEY REMEMBER THAT THING FROM THAT SHOW or the general ineptitude of Enterprise, but stuff that fits seamlessly with what we know of the characters and enriches it.

Also with every passing week I laugh harder at brainlets who call it not Trek or not faithful, literally every episode in the season has been about solving things with science or humanitarianism.

$0.01 has been deposited

Best trolling we've had all year. Here's another (you) for your troubles.

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?

Name me one thing this show says about the human condition or an example of philosoply the show has used.

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the Discovery is a beaut this season

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I watched two episodes of Disco and deemed it garbage so if there is an episode where they talk about Kant and objective morality I wouldn't know. You could make up an episode of STD and I would believe you.

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>that contrarian who defends discovery because everyone likes the orville

You compliment the show so earnestly that I almost believe your praise to be genuine.

>two Gordon episodes in a row

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Remember when you kept posting anti-semetic slurs without realizing it and deleted those posts? Good times.

It probably seems that way to you because I am 100% sincere. Why wouldn't I be?

Do you seriously not look at posts like and not feel second hand embarrassment? Imagine being that pathetic and so unable to take part in a discussion.

I could equally talk about what I didn't like so much, but don't often because that shit isn't interesting and it's also almost completely mishandled season 1 things that they've course corrected away from.

97 more posts and you'll have a dollar!

its funny because the nig does talk about objective morality after the nig rigs kronos to explode and threatens to blow up kronos if the klingons don't stop fighting the war the nig started.

The writing is consistently team america level but it takes itself dead seriously.

>kronos

Characters who can see through people.

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Am I racist if it is unintentional and didn't know? Serious replies only.

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go back to your discord

What was said?

"Make new thread."

>Why wouldn't I be?
Because Discovery has no redeeming value and is in fact offensive to true Star Trek fans. I can't imagine that anyone with half a brain would give the kind of praise on display without being intentionally facetious. If you are being genuine then I feel a profound sense of pity.

Pike is a genuinely one of the best captains we had.

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Is the Garak book by Andrew Robinson worth reading?

okay

Yes, it's quite good

STAR TREK SUCKS AND IS GAY AND LAME
*dabs on the nerd faggot losers of /trek/*

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>offensive to true Star Trek fans.

oh shut the fuck up already doomcock

No u!

What WAS the last Disco Episode?