I really liked this but did anyone else have a problem with how Professor X was killed off and how his legacy was handled?
>accidentally kills all the x-men
>mutants near extinction
>all that work through all the films for nothing
>dies unceremoniously to Snikt-clone
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I liked when wolverine beat the truck with his shovel.
Wouldve been nice to see a more heartfelt moment between Charles and Logan. He kind of just dies in the bed of the truck. Logan never got that boat "Sun Seeker" either.
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its not canon in the fox universe, so who cares?
and now that disney will own fox, its not canon at all, so who cares?
awesome movie though.
The ultimate irony of the film is that Xavier actually did more to hurt the mutant cause than Magneto ever did. Him dying a broken man to a clone of what is essentially his pet project is the perfect, bleak ending that goes along with the hopelessness the film is trying to convey.
None of the people we know and love get a good death except Logan, and he only earns his death through helping the future generation.
No, i thought it was subverting expectations done right
it was fine. i think the comic version has mysterio making logan think he was fighting villians but he killed them all himself. obviously couldn't do that but the way they actually incorporated the event was fine for the film version
Funny how the only non canon entry is the most kino of the entire series.
non canon capeshit is kino because they dont have to worry about keeping the stars alive for the next issue
>This
It gives more justification to mutant opposition other than mUtAnTs R bAd
maybe it's because this film wasn't representing fags like those other ones
>canon
>fox xmen
You have added absolutely nothing to this thread
watching whit man getting killed by diversity was kinda tough
yeah but the 3 main characters are white so who cares
>that whole black family butchered for nothing
Not for nothing. So cry baby Xavier could play pretend.
First half of the movie was amazing
Second half was mostly nonsense until the final 5 minutes
It is canon. It's set six years after the ending of Days of Future Past
At what point does it become nonsense in your opinion?
I refuse to believe that. In my headcanon its an unrelated timeline to all x-shit or the original x3 timeline before the time booms happened.
No, he's right. The X-Men movies pretty much ignore "canon" whenever convenient. I actually like this because it means they don't get bogged down in their own bullshit. If an idea or character doesn't work, they can try it again or abandon it.
Fantastic movie and i understand the symbolism of having a young Logan be the main adversary of the lead but fuck me if i wouldn't have preferred Sabretooth instead.
STAY MAD FAGGOT
That's some autism there.
well the original trip he wanted to make with charles and albino mutant is simple to die in open ocean, he was old and had enough.
wtf is this pic real?
That guy is a pedophile
Days of Future Past was much better than le angry screaming girl assassin.
In The Wolverine, Yukio says she saw Logan's death. She says she saw him "laying on his back, covered in blood, with his own heart in his hands" and in Logan he still dies in much the same way: lying on his back, covered in blood, with Laura (his heart) in his hands.
The events of Apocalypse tie directly into Logan: Wolverine escapes Stryker's facility and murders Dr Rice's father in the process, the Essex Corp takes his DNA which eventually allows Alkali Transigen to create the X-23 program, AND the cataclysmic events of the movie likely motivate the extermination of mutants that Rice enacts.
In Days of Future Past, Beast talks about a theory that time isn't changeable, that you can cause ripples in it but the future is inevitable. Though it appears at first that he was wrong, things like Rogue/Statue of Liberty still happening in the new timeline, and Logan still having mementos from The Wolverine (The samurai sword hanging in the mill where Wolverine keeps Charles in Logan) and X-men Origins (The dogtags are also in Logan) even in the new timeline, suggests that even after rewriting history, lots of it still happened (albeit in potentially different ways- such as Deadpool still coming to exist but being totally different from Origins). If the future is in some ways inevitable, then it makes sense that even though they stopped the Sentinel future, Mutant kind still gets nearly eradicated in the Logan future.
The X-Men basically fought for nothing, even changing the past wasn't enough, mutants died out either way.
What can I say, I like DoFPs ending too much
this, Liev was great but fuck me origins sucked
The movie would have been better if the kids were older. I hate kid actors.
Sabretooth was originally meant to appear in Logan running a casino that Logan, Charles and Laura would visit but they cut him out.
>Jlaw Mystique being shoved down your throat
yeah nah
The Snikt Clone was the worst part of the movie in general, I've repressed my memory of him and only now remembered he was in after you brought him up
But it was great, I don't know why people thought it was dumb. It's the bad guys finally getting what they've always wanted from Logan and also represents his worst fears of what he could have become
I agree that it was a bleak departure from what we’ve seen Charles build. Sadly though life can go that way, you don’t have to be a mutant to succumb to degradation in a manner that destroys your life work.
Do we really need it to be like real life? The movie struck a good balance outside of Charles
Essentially proved Eric was always right, but Charles clearly had a more noble, sad death than the bleak one I'm sure Magneto had.
Laura was wayyyy more forced. The character got annoying 10 minutes after it was introduced and barely developed from there.
It says here that the X-Force was going to be about "A time-traveler assembles a team of mutants in order to prevent the wrecked future he came from."
What if Cable and Deadpool and the rest of the X-Force were going to prevent Alkali Transigen and Mister Sinister from making mutants go extinct and prevent the events of Logan happening?
Not really, she was actually integral to the plot and the development of the characters. Jlaws role never made sense and always seemed like it should have been rogue in DoFP the actress was just popular so they gave her a big part in the movie.
I agree. I expected it to be similar to the comics where Logan is mind controlled and kills everyone. Charles knowing this and helping him through the trauma eventually becoming Logan taking care of him as we saw in the movie would have been more appropriate.
That was a good thing though
>Essentially proved Eric was always right
He's always been right, it's his methods that are wrong.
TLJ fags who constantly deflect criticisms by saying people just want racist patriarchal whatever in their movies can honestly not answer why films like this one that pull off themes of failed mentors and loss successfully, can they?
>The only likable kike in comics is actually a Nazi knockoff
It's not canon
Even his methods were, if this is what was achieved by nonviolent means. I'd say his only issue was an unwillingness to spill mutant blood, esp. from Xavier's group.
i thought xavier died in xmen 2 or3
DIFFERENT MEANS BAD
did they ever actually explain how he came back into his own body and got crippled again between xmen 3 and dofp?
as a boomer+ i can comfortably say this movie is shit except for the ultra violence of wolverine they finally portrayed.
>The only likable kike in comics
Whuzzat?
Going drink some more lead boomer nobody cares what you think
why the fuck would being a boomer+ mean we should give a shit about your opinion faggot
movie was shit. all i wanted was for that annoying kid he was lugging around to fuck off
>killed by diversity
Kek
>fuck off
I'd rather fuck her delicious loli body in all possible holes
But she was the best part of the movie
>fuck off
She didn't say a word until the last 20 minutes...
He transferred his conciousness into his twin brother that he mind wiped in the womb
>white man in detroit
>GIVE ME YOUR JEW GOLD
Tfw the punchline was actually worth all the bullshit
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The intro part was kino
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Kinda funny how this is the first instance of anyone saying it was ‘bad’. I get you’re trying to be ironic but c’mon man don’t be so dumb.
No, it fits. In the end Charles' philosophy ultimately destroyed the mutants. It's the irony that he wanted to create a safe haven for mutants because he assumed he'd be the best teacher for getting them to understand their powers, but even he didn't fully understand his on a biological sense.
It's vindicates both why regular humans would be so anti-mutant, because a simple medical condition can send their powers running wild and killing who knows how many people. So you can understand anti-mutants coming from a place beyond just caricatures of racism because Charles Xavier, a peaceful, well off, rich man became a literal time bomb without even meaning to.
The film also vindicates why Erik felt he needed to be so combative. Because at the end of the day the regular humans wouldn't come at them with giant robots or guns, but just by spiking the water make it so no more mutants happen. That if there was going to be a place for mutants on earth, they'd have to make it themselves, not try and fit into the norm.
It's got the best realized version of how the entire conflict with Erik and Charles will end. With Erik and his group being scattered or killed because they're constantly undermined by potential allies who won't commit to making a world they can live in, and Charles' attempts at integration falling apart due to a literal "X-factor" he never saw coming.
I think it's good. It helps strike home how dangerous the mutants really are, even for the people that they care about. It gave Logan a good reason to doubt whether Xavier's ideals were a good idea to begin with, and from his perspective, maybe the mutants deserve to die out afterall.
There's also some ironic twist to how their powers torment the mutants - Xavier has he most powerful brain in the world but he has a degenerative brain disease, Logan desperately wants to die but he is pretty much immortal, and so on. I think this movie plays with the reality of what being an outcast is really like; it's nice to see the X-men fight for their ideals in the comics and movies, but in real life being an outcast is painful for you and everyone around you. It gave more realism to the characters, and I think this is what really elevates this movie above the usual capeshit schlock.
>did anyone else have a problem with how Professor X was killed off and how his legacy was handled?
No. It was the only thing that actually came as a genuine surprise. I think they handled his legacy fine. They let him have his Oscar speech and then die. The fact that it's unceremonious adds to the moment.
Basically, you're a faggot
X-men already has multiple timelines within their movies, so this is very easily canon and just the future of one of their timelines.
why didnt they just drone the kids the whole plot of chasing and finding them was to kill them
Yes professor X death and Logans death were the reason I felt this movie was poor, seriously I'd seen all the hype for this movie walking in, the only reason for it was to kill off these 2 characters and it was the worst part of the movie