it genuinely makes me mad and upset when people on here say Jackson is innocent. You could say I'm triggered. I guess that's on me and I shouldn't take the internet so seriously, but still, I really hope you guys are just being contrarian for the sake of it.
It genuinely makes me mad and upset when people on here say Jackson is innocent. You could say I'm triggered...
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A big chunk of this site is neonazi/fundie Muslim shills and apparently MJ ties into their obsession with Jews. They're robots, not people with opinions anyway.
I mean the dude has always been joked as being a diddler. Though it is suspicious that the 2 kids who it's based on are in some financial trouble...
this doc didn't make sense in some ways but I believe they were raped. James mainly.
But jesus, the sister hates her mother but she WAS IN THE SAME FUCKING ROOM THAT HER BROTHER AND SHE ALSO DIDN'T KNOW
Some people just don't care. He's dead and his music still sounds good. There's nothing to be done.
who knows if he is innocent or not, he is probably guilty. But all we know for sure is that he was a weirdo. Also, he is dead now so what does it really matter?
It does. Now we wait for all the victims to pop out and sue the estate dry.
that's the thing, it's fine to like his music, I have no problem with that. But it makes my blood boil when people bring up mountains of suspicious shit and some asshole responds smugly with "how about some REAL evidence?"
the point is not him being innocent but that he isnt proven to be guilty
Did he diddle those kids? Maybe, maybe not. Only he and the kids know.
Was he a mentally ill individual who shouldn't have been allowed to be alone around kids anyway? Yes.
I mean, they aren't wrong. There hasn't been anything concrete enough to seal a conviction and there likely never will be. He probably did it, but it really doesn't matter. You don't have to like a musician to appreciate their work.
everyone involved in the entire situation is a piece of shit. the jackson family for abusing him to the point of no return, jackson for raping kids, the parents for putting their kids in this situation for money in the first place, and the now grown men clearly out for a paycheck.
if any of them actually cared they would've testified against him while he was still alive instead of waiting a decade
i still like some of his music though
that's not how child abuse works though, it fucks them up for years afterwards, they're only now able to come forward since he groomed them so effectively. That's their story anyway and I don't see why that's so hard for people to understand.
The rageaholic had a good two part video on youtube that made me seriously doubt Jackson's guilt. No matter the crime we all deserve a fair trial it disturbs me how quickly people turn against eachother when sexual allegations are brought to light before a trial much less a verdict is delivered.
FBI reported the allegations against him as extortion. Weird how faggots like you won't accept any evidence that says you're conspiracies are unfounded
It’s sad to think about it but if Jackson’s dad wasn’t an asshole none of this would’ve ever happened
I don't care if he did it or not
>jackson for raping kids
He was chemically castrated and had no sexual urges
It's hard at times to speak since you really don't know how or where to start. These are big allegations your making that could cost you if you're proven wrong, even if you're right.
why does Razorfish like MJ so much? is it because he stole jackson's fashion sense?
Latoya Jackson saying over and over again that Jackson is a pedophile and that her and her mother were angry because their mother found out Michael was writing checks to several little boys.
She also says Michael's mother said she couldn't believe her son was a "faggot", in response to finding out that he molested children.
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Latoya in the first clip saying he's a child molester:
>"What 35-year-old man do you know, sleeps in bed with little boys and stays with them a week or two weeks, or whatever?"
This next clip she accuse Michael of using his fortune to essentially buy children, cutting checks to their parents.
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Third clip in which she says he was only getting married to shut down the child molestation allegations, saying that Michael is gay and doesn't like women, and hates them, all women. She also says that in her eyes he's a pedophile.
Michael Jackson was never a pedophile
>safechuck
dare i say it?
You should look into the people funding this slander campaign before posting.
there are pro-jackson creeps everywhere. it’s honestly like a mind virus. they’re out doing the work of the jackson estate FOR FREE. that’s what stupid money and a hype machine does to people, i guess.
Did any of his siblings even like him?
I'm triggered that scum are trying to drag MJ through the mud when he's dead and no longer able to defend himself, when they couldn't prove a fucking thing while he was alive.
It's really daunting for me as a huge Michael Jackson fan. It's undeniable him being beaten as a kid and forced into the lime light, basically growing up in the public life is what really fucked him up. I think honestly he was just looking to relive the childhood he missed out on. Granted, that's no excuse for diddling kiddos and if there's proof of that then I'm really not sure the legacy of his music.
But then again, tides change so quick now - people will probably forget MJ existed in another 10-15 years. If people want to boycott his music I mean that's fine, it's completely their right. But for me, I might end up watching the documentary then deleting his music, or I may not. They say you have to separate the art from the artist but I'm not entirely convinced that's an easy task.
Not watching your silly videos when the FBI had a long ass investigation and cleared him
then why the porn at neverland? that makes zero sense.
money speaks louder than words, like the tens of millions this pedo paid to the families of his victims.
>but he wanted it to be done with for publicity reasons!
i’m sure if i were a pedo i’d want it out of the public eye as fast as possible.
There wasn't any porn, just the table book
If you think its bad here, go take a look at Youtube comments or Twitter. I never knew Jackson had so many crazy fans. What do they get out of defending this pedophile? Just a few hours research is enough to understand that he clearly was a child rapist.
They also seem to follow the same script:
>no real evidence
>FBI didnt find anything
>he didnt have a childhood
>accusing the victims of being out for money or personal gain
there's were videos and magazines, not kiddie porn but adult porn.
>They also seem to follow the same script
And the accusers don't?
Literally no evidence whatsoever that he did anything to anyone and every accusation has comes from people who have been proven to be liars.
There is porn and I'm looking at the pics. You can find them by searching "daily mirror neverland 2003 pictures"
If Mike touched you, report to the nearest HBO
What's the script? Going on national television and saying to the world that you sucked off MJ when you were 7 years old?
Until there is solid tangible evidence of him being a kid fucker I'm giving MJ the benefit of a doubt. He pretty much couldn't be a kid when he was a child and it fucked him up, if anything he was trying to experience something of a childhood in his adulthood by doing things he missed out on.
>neonazi/fundie Muslim shills
>obsession with Jews
no russian bots?
fuck off JIDF, the JQ will continue to rise, by your own doing i might add
In general sexual abuse victims all have it coming, especially female rape victims.
Whatever their parents or david geffen tell them to say i suppose.
you conviently forgot to add Latoya was in an abusive relationship with Jack Gordon who abused and forced her to make outlandish statements
or her family all turned against her and threatened to cut her off if she didn't change her story.
Calling MJ a pedo is the ultimate proof of being a zoomer.
If you weren't a fucking embryo when he was around you'd know his behaviour wasn't as big a faux paux as it is now.
it’s funny that michael jackson shills will say the media is biased when i’m having trouble finding any outlet that has any opinion either way about it. most of them must be too scared of litigation to outright say he’s a pedo. that’s what i find frustrating.
You didn't watch the documentary? Both the victims are in very bad terms with their mothers, specially the choreographer. They are also independent and have their own families.
>ywn be MJ's little one
feels bad man, these kids were lucky
He passed a 10 year FBI investigation and was exonerated in a federal court. Fuck off.
I would be to if they put me through a media spectacle and i'm still not rich.
Total nonsense. I'm 34 and I remember my parents being shocked and appalled in 94 during the first accusations and I remember the outrage and disgust after Living with Michael Jackson came out and Jackson creepily admitted to sharing his bed with children.
Listen user, he just loved children* because his uhh childhood was messed up!
*only little boys
and by "loved" I mean he wanted to sleep with them nude
also he paid all the kids parents with a visible money trail for them prostituting their kids to him
People were calling him a pedophile since the 80s and in the 90s they were making all find of jokes about him having sex with young boys. South Park, SNL, Norm Macdonald, Eminem are just a few that come in mind.
If the FBI says he didn't do it at a time when newscasters used to laugh about kiddy diddlers getting raped in prison on the 5pm news then he didn't do it as far as I am concerned.
I believe he did it and I've never looked into the evidence or court cases in any way.
>"how about some REAL evidence?"
but actually though, how about some real evidence?
It's more that there's very little internal consistency on neo-/pol/ (formerly Yea Forums). I'm not talking about individual opinions differing, but I'm talking about similar opinions differing over minute details. Though generally if it relates to Jews it'll immediately be hated.
>i’d want it out of the public eye as fast as possible
that's what a settlement does dumbass.
Why do you pedophiles love the FBI so much?
>he's not a pedo he was just a huge sexual deviant who constantly had children sleep with him at his mansion
I thought the narrative after he died was so weird because I thought we all knew what he was before that
When asked if he saw why people would "worry" about Jackson - then 44 - sharing a bed with thirteen-year-old cancer patient Gavin Arvizo, the music legend replied: "because they are ignorant."
He defended the practice as "a beautiful thing" - adding that he wasn't the "Jack the Ripper in the room."
He blasted: "There's some guy trying to heal child. I have slept in a bed with many children.
"It's very right. It's very loving, that's what the world needs now, more love more heart?
let's be real this is some smoke but can't see the fire shit. i hope he didn't do it and was just an eccentric weirdo who fantasized about being a child again.
Yeah, the FBI has been lacking in credibility lately. I don't know why anybody is bringing them up.
being a pedo=/=being a molester
dude probably beat off imagining them, but all the actual molestation accusations so far have been total bullshit.
There was plenty of evidence. If a non-celebrity had the same accusations and evidence against them, a jury would send them away in a heartbeat.
You are literally talking the same way a pizzagate tard would. A mountain of circumstantial evidence doesn't prove anything
>7 of his "special friends" have accused him of molestation and inappropriate behavior
>testimony of their families and former Neverland staff
>the pay-offs from Jackson after the children testified on his behalf
>the revolving cast of boys between 8-14 that Jackson replaced over the years when they got too old to be appealing
>the expensive gifts given by Jackson, including child sized jewelry and a copy of "The Boy" pornographic artbook
>male DNA (not his) found in his bed
>Jackson admitting he shared his bed with children
>erotic artbooks featuring nude male children found at Neverland
I'm sure there's more, that's just what I remembered after having this same stupid argument over the last couple of days. I'm sure none of that is real evidence to you, but it adds up to paint a very disturbing picture.
This was found in MJ's hidden room and some people still think he's an innocent angel.
pizzagate has no known victims though, no one has spoken out against Podesta, Clinton etc as a pedophile. It's literally just some strangely worded emails.
Lately? The FBI was founded by Hoover to blackmail politicians. That's what they were created for.
Why do you think he was a pedo, but didn't molest anybody?
He was surrounded by boys all the time for years, so it's not like he didn't have access.
>but didn't molest anybody?
because all the molestation accusations have been really easy to see through.
if a believable accusation occurs, i'll change my opinion.
Dude Sega took Jackson’s name off the Sonic 3 credits (which he composed the music for) after the allegations
then using that logic i can just say they use their power to kill and dispote of their victims and money to cover everything up. so there is no hard evidence, but i know im right
Would you consider this believable?
>The child was able to draw distinctive marks on Jackson’s penis and buttocks – as the legendary entertainer suffered from skin condition vitiligo.
>Police in California then strip searched and photographed the Billy Jean songwriter’s genitalia – something Jacko, who denied all allegations of sex abuse made against him, called "the most humiliating ordeal of my life”.
>Following the strip search, Jackson agreed a massive settlement with the Chandler family reported to between $20m and $24m.
>According to numerous reports, including from investigative journalists such as Diane Dimond and Jacques Peretti, the child correctly identified the marks on the star’s penis prompting Jacko to settle.
>Author and ex-music industry exec John Niven claims that Jordan’s description of the singer manhood was “so accurate” he was able to identify where the "splotches" were placed when the entertainer’s penis was “erect.”
>Writing in the Independent, Niven said: “The boy’s information was so accurate he was able to locate where the splotch moved to when Jackson’s penis became erect and the fact that he was circumcised.”
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I could never make heads or tails of this situation, I'll just remain content without ever drawing a conclusion
But why do you think he was a pedo, if you don't believe the claims against him?
What about him makes you think he was a nonce, but also think the children who he spent copious amounts of time alone with in his bed were not touched by him, inappropriately?
I don’t really care much for MJ but if there’s a mountain of evidence against him, why was he found “not guilty”?
How did they know what his penis looked like while it was erect?
MJ was literally uncircumsized, very fucking nice detail to throw away your whole evidence
Didn’t Jackson said something offensive about Jews, like “Kick me Kike me”?
Jordan claimed that Jackson was circumcised.[15][34][56] However, Jackson's autopsy report showed that he had not been circumcised and his foreskin appeared naturally intact, with no signs of having been restored from a circumcision.[57] Taraborrelli claims that Jordan correctly noted patchy colored skin on his buttocks, short pubic hair, and testicles marked pink and brown;[58] however, initially investigators claimed Chandler said Jackson had splotches on his genitals a color "similar to the color of his face" rather than pink and brown.[56]
On February 10, 1993,[59] Jackson had revealed in a televised interview that he had vitiligo, a skin disorder that destroys skin pigmentation and creates blotches, and that he used make-up to even out his skin.[60] The interview was watched by 90 million, and after it aired, expert information on vitiligo was widely shared in the media.[60] According to private investigator Anthony Pellicano, who questioned Jordan in July 1993 after hearing Evan's taped phone call, Jordan denied that he ever saw Jackson's body but said he did lift his shirt once to show him the blotches on his skin.[6] Investigators made a probe into Jackson's history, including family interviews, to see if he had undergone procedures to alter his body's appearance, as the grand jury felt there was no clear match with Jordan's description.[61]
i think he was a pedo because of all the "art books" and all his inappropriate behavior. i don't think he ever molested any of the kids, because none of the accusations are believable to me.
Because he literally settled 90% of the cases out of court by paying the parents millions of dollars, each.
The only ones that went to court depended on testimony from children who had been groomed and sexually abused
you can't be found guilty of something if the people who you committed the crime against settled out of court and dropped charges
MJ must have use a body double and now is hiding in serbia with tupac
>an adult black man can literally sleep with a bunch of white boys, but if he names the jewz it's okay and he's based and redpilled
He was innocent, you stupid fuck.
Because those were the jurors:
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Go at 3:02 to understand what kind of people they were.
I think he was a pedophile who liked being around kids for obvious reasons but perhaps refrained from ever actually doing anything but masturbating to the memories after the kids were gone
you can refuse a settlement you know
>he literally settled 90% of the cases out of court by paying the parents millions of dollars, each
source on the 90% thing?
Jackson WAS innocent you stupid fuck. The dude had zero childhood, was chemically castrated by his piece of shit father and children were literally the ONLY ones who didn't constantly slander and shit on him 24/7.
He was strange, he was eccentric, but all he wanted was for those kids to have a happy childhood that he never had. Those two fucking snakes in the new documentary testified under oath that MJ never abused them, never touched them, with Culkin and Feldman both corroborating this story by stating all of the kids they were with at the time at Michael's house said nothing happened.
This is all just a pure cash grab by those two worms to get their 5 minutes of fame
Pocket change by his standards that was a forced settlement case by his record company pressuring him to get that bullshit over with
This is quite a big red flag
Honestly if you seriously think the guy is such a fucking monster, why would you just take the money and let him off the hook. Why not let the law punish him?
Imagine the morality of those people knowing there is a pedo and they just take money to shut up. Which then make you really beg the question the other way
>all he wanted was for those kids to have a happy childhood that he never had
He could have given them a million dollars each instead of fucking raping them in his bed you fuck
>Michael Jackson raped kids
Wrong
>Michael Jackson fucked kids
Correct
>Michael Jackson was innocent
Wrong
>The kids fucking loved Michael Jackson that even in the docu they still showed affections
Correct
Do you think a child is able to tell when an erect penis is circumcised or not? Remember that he gave that testimony to the police when he was 13
why not both?
I agree with this, you could tell the guys had a genuine love for MJ even though they understood he abused them.
You know that the families can be greedy assholes and he may have still been a predator, right? Those situations are not mutually exclusive.
test
He wrote that he saw it from every angle
>Do you think a child is able to tell when an erect penis is circumcised or not? Remember that he gave that testimony to the police when he was 13
i think police probably described what circumcision was when they asked him. i knew what circumcision was at 13.
mj fans have been rabid on the internet since well before Yea Forums was even created and having them on your side is an easy source of views. I'm not joking on this, some of the biggest mj fansites heavily featured his videos
he literally drew a picture of it
What kind of backward fucking shithole you live in that kids don't get health education in the middle school already? jesus christ, im saying this as a dude who grew up in from a 3rd world country
Because the parents were actually out for money and never really cared for their kids. MJ used this situation in his advantage and paid for their silence. The kid couldn't do anything about it. The laws couldn't do anything about it either because MJ had massive power and influence and people like you defending him and accusing the 12 year old boy instead
>r kelly
>cosby
>jackson
>chris brown
>chuck berry
lol at the state of black entertainment
>bro science
Yikes!
What did he mean by this?
Honestly, the more we discuss, the more likely we can do nothing but look at pic and try to examine, do comparison, discuss MJ’s mental illness, and what considered pedophilia. At some point, we do nothing but to agree or disagree no matter how much we dug.
Funny you should say, I heard he made a song about “They don’t care about us” and he said “jew-me, sue-me, kick me, kike-me”.
Rather that was a reference if that song or just memeing.
I'm American and never learned about that sort of thing.
But did he accurately describe the taste and smell? I'm not sure I buy it
Then fuck them and their kids, you are literally letting a fucking pedo running wild and then you have the fucking audacity to worm back years later trying to make more money from the public pity
You don't get sex ed when you're that young. He probably dropped off school to stay with Micheal like the other two kids in the documentary did.
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we had basic sex ed starting in 4th&5th grade here in the US. varies from state to state though i imagine.
The kids are not at fault here, man. They were groomed by MJ since they were 6 or 7. They were abandoned by their parents to this monster who did all kind of mental manipulations on them.
My brother and I both have sex ed in middle school, and we live in texas. What the hell kinda states do you guys live in?
>watched a documentary one time on HBO that's main objective was to make Michael look as guilty as possible
>omg he's guilty
Ya'll are fucking idiots.
Michael shouldn’t be on that list
Imagine the morality indeed..
On the day Jackson began the third leg of his tour, news of the allegations broke to the public and received worldwide media attention. Jackson cancelled the remainder of the tour due to health problems arising from the scandal. In January 1994, Jackson reached a financial settlement for $23,000,000 with the Chandlers and in September a criminal investigation was closed. The allegations affected his public image and commercial standing, and several endorsement deals were canceled, including Jackson's decade-long Pepsi endorsement. Similar allegations were made by other parties in the following decades, leading to a trial in which Jackson was found not guilty. In 2009, five months after Jackson's death, Evan Chandler committed suicide in his apartment in Jersey City.
We're fighting a war, damn it! Sacrifices have to be made.
Do you think all of this could've been prevented if fortnite was around then?
your thinking on this issue is awfully "black and white" friend. the parents being negligent and or greedy and or opportunistic does not excuse the abuse.
I'm in my 30s, we only had sex ed in freshman year of high school and then it was about using condoms and stds and stuff, it didn't go into circumcision. At least not that I remember. This was in MA.
He was an absolute freak, that's for sure. An offense against God.
This documentary didn't even have anything to do with investigating, there wasn't even any new evidence that was discovered. It was just overly long interviews with the accusers and their families.
The only people that defend him are fanboys and /pol/ posters
you're telling me a fucking high school in a rich state didn't have a fully fleshed out sex ed/human health course curriculum? what the fuck?
These claims are outrageous, next you'll be telling me Freddie Mercury was gay
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ok, you guys are right. I might have been overboard with the kids. regardless of what actually happened they are victims of these shitshow
desu even as a MJ fan im not that 100% sure on his innoncent either, there clearly no question about his mental and him being a fucking weirdo. it just that some of the lies and extortion trying to get money from him make me very skeptical of the whole ordeal
You’re an offense to god
This is now widely discredited..
He didn't fuck them. He just slept in the same bed as them.
MJ was a sick man, but he wasn't an evil predator. He should be forgiven for his deviancy. Everybody has them. He just had too much money and lived in a surreal world where he couldn't live a normal life. So our abnormal became his normal.
People constantly attacking him even years after his death goes to show how pathetic this society has become of a constant need to point the finger at anyone who escapes normality.
he probably diddled that poor panther too :(
how the fuck do you know this? can you see inside his brain? were you there in his bedroom? fuck off.
How did we go from
>he described in incredible detail
to
>how could he have been able to tell if he was circumcised?!
MJ was innocent. The family were greedy cunts.
Oh brother, im near 30 (28). When it was sex ed class in health, they show you everything. Close up of penis with foreskin, vagina with labia and shit in textbook. Of course this is still texas so they also held a seminar of some sort in the school auditorium later on to preach about the power of abstinence
>woman sleeps in one bed with a girl
>"oh cute, what a wholesome motherly bond"
>man sleeps in one bed with a boy
>"disgusting pedophile must've raped him"
I can say the same to you, you fucking retard. If it's all speculation then why are we even having this thread you moron.
They found too many weird things in MJ's hidden rooms to consider him innocent. All kind of pornography and degenerate stuff. If someone who owns this kind of shit, sleeps alone with a child, its pretty obvious what he's going to do with them.
i wouldn't say he fucked them, i think the claims in the documentary about mj trying to buttfuck them were probably bullshit, but he definately fondled some kiddies
Did he diddle kids? I don't think so.
Was he weird? Yes, but I'd bet he would fit in just fine with 90% of Yea Forums. I can't believe the board that invented Cunnyposting has strong feelings about this
dozens of boys
also, nice goalpost moving, incel
>All kind of pornography
Anyone who posts on Yea Forums should never be considered innocent of anything
Shit. I forgot about the HBO’s Documentary. Did they say anything that bring something new to the table? I don’t want to waste my time in case nothing new happens. But if they don’t and talks about their “experience” with MJ, and no evidence, I’m gonna be suspicious of them and just see these guys nothing more but riding this allegation controversies just to get money.
It’s a shame that there’s no one like MJ these days to give these spoiled child actors a good spanking. It’s just the faceless jewish predators now
Man even the child rapists have become soulless these days
What's so bad about doing lewd things with cute little boys?
If this woman is seen in public with underage girls playing and cuddling with them, sleeping with them alone without anyone else, and then after 1 year changing to another underage girl and doing the same thing both in public and in private. Then if those underage girls come out and say they were abused. Then this woman would be in troubles too, but she wouldn't have all those people defending her like MJ does.
What's with all these facebook tier reaction images, is this 2003?
I'll never give a shit about what the media has to say about MJ. They are only doing this because of the climate. When he died, nobody said shit. Tried to get him nonstop through his life and now ample time has passed are trying it through his death.
They can all get fucked.
Jew me, sue me, everybody do me Kick me, kike me, don't you black or white me
>All kind of pornography and degenerate stuff.
So like 90% of all men??
Yes the evidence points that he should have been a monster, but the fact that nobody has ever said that he was violent or forceful goes to show that he was harmless.
I still think he didn't cross the line of rape.
>when you're so reactionary that you defend a black pedo because a throwaway song lyric sounded vaguely antisemitic
>constant pedo "cunny" threads
>being surprised when they defend another pedo
How about you look at the 300 page 10 year FBI investigation into him that found no evidence of illegal activity except from the supposed victim's families trying to extort him.
All I wanna say is that (((they))) don't really care about us!
People are like but why did they not come forward why did they and still have love for Michael don’t understand abuse and sexual manipulation of many years in childhood and the mental toll and reliance and confusion it can bring.
“””pedo”””
it has more to do with a need to be contrarian to whatever the popular/media perception of anything is
Touched a nerve?
completely normal pornography, like most men
and, like most men, he slept with a new boyfriend every 12 months
No, man, it was actually deprived stuff. Go look it up. Daily Mirror released some pics of when the Police raided his home in 2003. There is mutilation, tranny shit, Sado and Maso, animal abuse, pictures with naked boys and some malformed genitalia shit.
Also, it is possible that he didn't intend to hurt them and he actually cared for those kids, but its still child molestation, regardless of MJ's intentions.
they found male child erotica, mang. including the naked picture of one of his "friends"
mjfacts.com
>underage newfags trying to shitpost about MJ
I mean, I would too.
>people will still defend this
People did come forward though. He was on trial and everything. People vs Jackson. He was acquitted of all charges and the trial itself was so shambolic that the prosecutors had zero credible evidence, even from the people that did come forward.
If there were so many victims, where are they. Why did that 300 minute film only have two people (that had tried and failed to sue the Jackson estate numerous times in court) to support it? He's been dead for 10 years.
How many buzzwords in one short post?
Muh secret club, right?
Also nice fuckin reaction pic, very Yea Forums
I just thought the monkey gif, and the caption was funny.
Anyone of age remembers when the public consensus outside of teenage girls was that MJ was a fucking pedo. There were constant jokes about it. So maybe you're the underage.
If you want actual proof that he did it despite him being dead now can we get it? Oh yeah. But it requires a lot of work involving hacking into the phonea, emails and computers of both the victims who said Michael touched them. What I mean is, how do we know they both spoke to each other before the documentary planning out what to say? Both say Michael got them to stand in a corner naked as he masturbated to them. If some caught of law is able to get the phone records and emails of these 2 to see if they ever discuss this together. If so, we can't really trust them as both their stories have many simarities. If it can be proved they never had any conversations together then we can trust them as just like the detectives do when comparing say serial killer crimes, when multiple crimes have a pattern it's obvious same guy is doing it.
Both of them lied in caught saying Michael was innocent so I don't see it hard for police to get a search warrant and search deeply into this. My idea on the best way to know if they are both lying or not.
Link pls.
I just thought the monkey, and the caption was fun.
One of these accusers claimed MJ did nothing to him. The 'documentary' is also on HBO.
It just smells of scam to me. He's dead, they're broke, HBO wants a bit of cash, simple math.
And I say that as someone who is thoroughly convinced MJ was a paedo for sure and coinflip odds of actually diddling a kid.
> was that MJ was a fucking pedo
I love how you think none of us were alive when the trial was happening.
The general consensus was that the parents were trying to get money. You have no frame of reference for the case because most of you shiposting about it are underage.
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Because people like you keep defending him. The ones who come forward actually get hate mail and threats from MJ's fans. Who would want to come forward when they know that Justice wouldn't be served?
You can't trust a celebrity trial. OJ was declared not guilty when he murdered 2 people and the prosecution had all kind of DNA evidence.
I think you are fun
fpbp
So OP has no problem using a board and website that posts pedo shit all over it but does have a problem with people liking MJ.
Seems like I was right.
Reading that reminds me of any banal Yea Forums thread on any given Thursday. Fuck, it all seems so Vanilla.
Imagine being this much of an autist
You're one dumb nigger.
The family was the best example of poor people trying to get some money.
Yeah and he had a pic of home alone kids head on a naked male body. Wtf wasnt any of this used as evidence in court?
user other day said his wife or gf said he was into BDSM stuff. I believe user but how do you know this home alone kid pic wasnt planted then if it was never addressed?
>people will probably forget MJ existed in another 10-15 years
No way. He was the biggest musician of the 20th century, arguably as big if not bigger than the Beatles. Also Thriller is basically the official Halloween theme song
>which he composed the music for
No he didn't.
He was going to, but then pulled out because of the stress of all this shit happening.
You can't settle criminal charges.
>tfw that scene in the doco where Michael got a camera crew to film a personal music video of one of the kids dancing to his songs in their own home and then send it to him in Neverland
That was odd I guess
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>not Monster Mash
fuck you
>that
> it was actually deprived stuff
umm..
That’s not even the worst of it
It’s fake and edited
youtube.com
youtube.com
youtube.com
I used to support Trump until I realized he supported Micheal Jackson even back during the child molestation trial, he was one of the only people that defended this sick fuck.
Disgusting, fuck Trump and fuck MJ.
>not spooky skeleton
Where do you think you are?
what? are you trying to refute official court documents with some blog? anyways... here is the court record with mj lawyer talking about the material found
Did you watch the documentary? There are pictures, videos, photo shoots, fax, phone calls that show both those guys spend time with Michael Jackson in their own.
No, the blog is refuting the falsified data of the “evidence” found in Neverland
>There are pictures, videos, photo shoots, fax, phone calls that show both those guys spend time with Michael Jackson in their own.
Wrong.
Again, fake
If MJ was innocent, then why did he pay millions of dollars to the parents of the children that he molested?
>vidicateMJ
>literally some crazy pedophile supporter fan blog against official police investigation of which you can even see the footage on youtube.
Yeah, see the thing is in the OJ trial they had all kinds of evidence. DNA evidence, means motive all those things you can build a case on. The MJ trial had nothing of the sort. It did have what even the FBI eventually deemed one of the most flagrant cases of extortion on record though.
This is an FBI investigation we are talking about. Over a decade long. Zero evidence of any wrongdoing. Zero proof. Not even a whisper. If you believe that investigation was so corrupt and useless, just like you believe the trials are also not proof of innocence and like you believe the absence of evidence is evidence of absence, then there's nothing more to say. Even now, Leaving Neverland hasn't changed opinion at all. If you thought he was a pedo before you still think he is. If you didn't, this isn't going to convince you he was. It hasn't changed any minds or the majority of public opinion unlike Surviving R Kelly because it's so fucking flawed.
Accept it really isn't.
Saying "wrong" and "fake" won't change the fact that Michael Jackson was a pedophile.
Because he was literally in the middle of a big event with his album tour, the record company pressured him and he didn’t want to fight and anger fans so he was forced to pay pocket change to the families, something he came to regret later
I DONT CARE ABOUT THAT COS TRANNY SEX SHIT WAS FOUND IN HIS RAIDED HOME IN 2003 AND NONE OF THIS WAS SHOWN IN COURT. TELL ME WHY??
And remember, playing violent video games makes you a murderer. Just look at this story.
Wasn't this claim from "RadarOnline" proven to be a hoax fake article?
>”official”
Nigger read the article, it thoroughly debunks the set of photos used in the case as falsified evidence
The investigation and raid was done by the Country Sheriff of some local police station in CA. The FBI didn't have a leading role until very late.
In cases of chid abuse the most important and usually the only proof is the testimony of the victim. Specially when it comes to higih profile people who have all sort of enforcers and lawyers to clean up their mess.
The prosecution team, the cops, the sheriff all believed he was a pedophile. Were they all corrupt and driven by some kind of irrational hatred?
The filmmakers have been proven fraudulent.
It doesn't matter to you though because you are thirsting for that jew cum to make you feel whole.
Again, the more we discuss MJ accusations and mental illness, the more we do nothing but to agree disagree at this point. Where basically waiting in a hallway that has an dead end and all we can do is discuss and expect things to process but won’t. But that’s how I see it.
Cringe, and severely bluepilled.
>suspicious shit
>evidence
literally a woman lmao
Facebook and social media wasn't around in 2003, you'reprobably thinking of motivational posters.
I'll believe in MJ's innocence long before the earth is flat
not really there you have an official court record of mj's lawyer acknowledging the existence of the material
mjfacts.com
there you have the whole transcripts of the trial if you want to check it out for yourself
yeah, you're right about that. I hope it settles down in a few days, it's really bumming me out and frustrating me. We're just speaking past each other on both sides.
Looks like the earth is flat then
literally the entire point of grooming is to make sure they don't come forward because they think its normal or non exploitative and that the pedo is a "good guy"
The dude had a giant circus/theme park at his house and admitted to sleeping with little boys, it doesn't take a genius to put the facts together
And also, he had tons of victims, he just paid them all off to settle out of court.
The police, the maids, guards, and staff of Neverland, many (not all) of Jackson's "Special Friends", including the families, ALL are evil and just hate Michael, because they are evil and want his money.
You are defending a pedophile who said on camera that sleeping with children is okay and he loves doing it. He was accused by his own mother and sister of fucking kids.
He's the same nigger who corrupted American youth with his faggot music and gay dance moves, helping the jews destroy any integrity your children had.
>muh FBI
And yet the FBI found no evidence of grooming, none of extortion, none of coercion, no DNA evidence, no circumstantial evidence and the only two victims in LN are two proven fraudsters with multiple failed attempts to sue the Jackson estate. And even all these victims he paid/settled with still haven't come forward to with their accusations, when this hasn't been the case for other dead abusers.
You can argue that the lack of proof is proof but that doesn't wash with me or many others.
Some one came forward? Must mean he's guilty.
No one came forward? Must mean he's guilty.
His sister is a prostitute druggy, her claims on the matter are about as credible as Michael’s are. Also his mother was a Jehovah’s Witness schizophrenic
A non celebrity did come forward and make a jarring accusation that solidified your opinion of the an, than that same non celebrity came out and stated his mother told hi to lie for money.
>muh “official” court docs
>You are defending a pedophile who said on camera that sleeping with children is okay and he loves doing it.
See, you clearly don't know how to separate literal with euphemism.
>grooming
this word literally doesn't mean anything. you treat a person well and they like you for that. omg what a crime
>HBO > FBI
lol what a world
Kinda obvious he's a pedo.
*weird
There’s a difference
Why are defending someone you don't know?
Why are you demonizing him?
Jealous?
The stories about the Watergate first came out from the Washington Post and not the FBI. It was the Washington Post that did all the investigation.
Sometimes people go to the media because federal agencies don't want to help them.
Why are you slandering a dead man you don’t know?
yeah a weird pedo. glad he’s gone and his soul is consigned to hell.
Yeah that's a totally rational explanation for a grown man to share his bed with children and have consistent week long slumber parties, amirite?
I like MJ's music, he's one of my fav artists but there is no doubt that the guy was a fiddler.
If you have any doubts, watch the Oprah interview about this.
He euphemistically jerked off children and had them squeeze his nipples.
I know deep in my heart that Michael was innocent.
>omg how could i be such a bad mother :( oh gosh how could i have known like he like made thriller :( oh well
>michael tells the kids not to trust women
>their moms screw michael for life (and death)
He’s in a much better place than you deserve moralfag
You are now aware Deep Throat was a disgruntled fed who gave the media the story.
Where can I watch it? Its not on youtube.
thanks for the unreadable documents of limited scope you pedo loving shit.
Michael Jackson did nothing wrong. Don't believe the lying press.
>le creepy image
Why didn't he go to the MUH FBI?
Deep Throat is the coolest fucking code name ever out of context
It's just a big coincidence, like in curb your enthusiasm, that his behavior matches the exact behavior of a child predator and groomer.
She’s a lying fraud who’s trying to act nice to secure a potential political future
Meme harder faggot, he was found innocent by the fbi, look it up yourself
i'm failing to see how this proves the pictures that his own defense acknowledged in court are not real, but ,oh well ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>It’s me, Applehead!
Whether he did or didn’t do it, he’s still a GOAT musician. That’s what pisses retards off the most, this’ll blow over and he goes back to being a pop god.
He's rotting in hell like the freak he is and his reputation will forever be sullen and he'll be known as a child rapist. Years from now other people will come out saying that they were raped by him until Michael jackson will be forgotten as the King of Pop and just remembered as a pedophile
They were falsified and edited, some were his
It’s on HBO
Sorry Jews, you're not going to fool me.
>MUUHH FBI !!!!!!!!
>cope
>Years from now other people will come out saying that they were raped by him
Wrong.
>They're robots, not people with opinions anyway.
n-no you
>MUH “EVIDENCE”
Its been happening since the 90s.
No, we are just asking for actual evidence. Because, you know, we were alive to see him go through the actual trial and know how little there was. Because, you know, we remember the investigations finding absolutely nothing.
But hey, the words of two fraudsters, and a director that begged to direct a project for the jacksons and got upset when they picked something else. Yeah, I can definitely see why that swayed 2019 people.
You are aware the Washington Post is a news organization and not an entertainment channel right. You are right though, investigative journalism is extremely useful too. Too bad there's none showing any damning evidence against MJ. Even with R Kelly there was that Chicago IJ who stayed on his case for 20 years gathering evidence and reporting it in vetted stories.
>>Why didn't he go to the MUH FBI
Hmm, that may have something to do with Nixon being the boss of the FBI. But wait, oh shit it makes sense now. MJ was the boss the FBI too. Oh god, you've cracked the case. HBO will be contacting you soon for your expose.
But lemme guess. Nothing I said changed your mind right? God this thread has been so enlightening.
>90s is “years from now”
What level of idiocy are you on? Like 5 maybe 6?
Dude if you listen to his music you are complicit in the sexual abuse of minors. You really need to stop listening to any of it.
yes, including the one with his "friend" spence naked, that oxman specifically refered to saying that "we don't know why they're there" lmao, totally normal to have some naked picture of your child friend naked, who also used to sleep in your bed, stashed in your secret closet hahah, c'mon man!!
Oh yeah Oprah, the fountain of American Truth and Justice.
So is this brave and progressive stunning and powerful or its sickening and we should stop castrating our kids and calling them the opposite sex?
>"One night we were watching the Simpsons. I remember Michael's favorite episode that he just would not shut up about. I clearly remember him saying to me, "You are my James Safechuck, formerly James DangerFuck". At that moment I knew someone was wrong with him".
It's been 10 years. With Saville it took 1. Actually it took 7 months.
kek
We are in 2019 and people have been coming out accusing him of being a pedophile since the 90s. Do you understand? Almost 30 years and people are still coming out and it will keep happening until justice is served.
Ever since her soft ball bullshit with Armstrong I have resented her. Fuckin cow let him cry like a baby and justify his lies cause if “muh family” and literally getting bullied by him if she even tried to get more pointed. Fuckin fat bitch
Nice
Poor kids are easier to molest
Justice for what? Frauds and extortionists?
Is it too hard to believe that someone as famous and influential as MJ didn't have people in his entourage with high connections to the FBI top brass?
Oh my god. This is even worse than Yves Saint Lauren's collection of comics about a little girl who murdered kids that he wrote himself.
There's no doubt in my mind YSL was actually training little girls to kill people once I saw those lulu comics.
You claimed that they would be doing it year from now, as in the future. You’re a goddam idiot
>until justice is served
Yeah! Reparations now! Gibsmedat!
Shieeet
Yes user it's a little hard for me to believe that MJ yielded as much influence and control over the inner workings of the FBI as the President of the United States.
Why not get an actual pedo to watch all the footage of Michael with the kids and see if the way Michael moves around them is how the guy would act
boy who cried wold op, there have been so many liars and hushes after being payed that people don't care anymore.
This is the wagon black people circle around I guess.
>nope, not this one.
Hmmmm, yeah. This guy is a pederast.
>nope
Mountains of evidence
>nope. Baby jesus told me so. It was lashandas burfday, I remember erything.
What was lashandas birthday?
>uh uh. Don't you go startin no shit with me. Mmmmmmm huh.
What the fuck are you talking about.
>Mmmmm hm that's what I thought. Ain't got shit, ain't got shit.
500 other retards this bitch doesn't know start going "ohhhhhh" "damn" leaning and posing like its fucking the gap, run down Detroit neighborhood style. Except instead of shitty preppy clothes everyone is in sweatpants and spandex. Oddly clean workbboots untied. Strangely colored "gold" all the girls somehow have abs but the fastest ass possible. None of the cars on the street are on tires.
Jackson did it. He was a sick fuck.
t.woman
Are all pedophiles retarded like you?
Yeah, they were. But who cares if it's a hoax or fake, it's still proof MJ did something wrong. And not just something wrong. It's real proof that he molested hundreds of kids and then got the FBI to cover his tracks and a judge and jury to clear his name.
Just look at his kids. They are fucking white! He literally raped them so hard they turned white.
Are you really gonna tell me she didn't hear some HEEHEES outside her bedroom door?
He was worth 2 billion dollars and was in contact with top jewish music producers. That's enough to get the FBI help your case.
>Years from now other people will come out saying that they were raped by him until Michael jackson will be forgotten as the King of Pop and just remembered as a pedophile
Somehow you were actualy talking anout the 90s when you said this?
No recent claims and thete never will be you’re fuckin wrong. What you agenda is against this man is beyond the scope of this thread but I imagine you’re a closet Pedo who is projecting hard.
The FBI said no such fucking thing. They were not directly investigating him, the LAPD were. The FBI were called in to help with him potentially transporting children across state lines, and later for forensics help, and interviewing ex employees outside of the US - one of whom stated he saw MJ fondle a kid. The only assessment the FBI made was based on the LAPD findings, which were stymied because too many witnesses and victims wouldn't talk.
This bullshit "The FBI investigated" bullshit is either trolling or schitzo MJ fans desperate to make excuses for the freak.
no you see us whites like there to be something called substantial evidence
>evidence
Oh, we're still waiting for that. You can continue greentexting about niggers though, it's quite entertaining.
Trannys are just mad that Jackson could become a new race and everyone was happy but when they want to gouge out their cock and balls people wretch.
You are not white. The first rule of white club, never announce or claim to be white.
kek how am I the pedophile when you MJ fans are saying the kids are all liars and Michael did nothing wrong?
Pedo
MJ was a tranny freak.
Culkin is the biological father.
>Michael hates all Women
Based MJ
At the end of the day, the guy has been dead for 10 years, is unable to defend himself and there's never been any concrete evidence against him. This documentary doesn't mean shit and will be forgotten about in around 3 months.
Agree.
i'm so confused idk what the truth is
micheal just seems so innocent and pure, it's just so hard to grasp that he would do this. he loved kids and had peter pan syndrome, i mean isn't that what it looks like?
he loved only MALE kids, that should give you a hint for what was going on
i thought he had girls over too but the news only focused on the boys as they were the accusers
find me a girl he took on months long tours and slept in bed with him
mods are niggers. Yea Forums telvision and film yeeet somehow doesn't include video featuring scripts and personalities and actors. somehow shit you watch on your tv, (aka television) doesnt fly here
they are baby rapping niggers. you know and i know it and its time they take their hotpockets back to the lab.
>seems so innocent and pure
Dude, wake the fuck up. That's what his PR people wanted you to see. He paid people a LOT of money to cultivate his image, like most celebrities do. How do you have any fucking clue what he was like behind closed doors? Or any celebrity?
i mean people aren't totally completely diffferent? do you think every human being who was well known throughout history is totally different than their public self?
Is it public information how much they will profit from this?
this
im a massive faggot now anyway so I would have liked it anyway
they weren't paid by HBO. Maybe they will be offered book deals or something now, but they didn't get much for the doc itself.
You are not white, second rule of the white club. Never risk revealing information of the white club or it's existence to a darkie.
Nothing we know about Michael Jackson's life is true. What were his sexual fantasies? Were his children his own? What kind of thing was he addicted to? Who killed him? And why? Why did he have a Peter Pan complex? Why did he sleep with boys?
We will probably never know.
>do you think every human being who was well known throughout history is totally different than their public self?
Yes.
And, if you don't, you're incredibly fucking naive.
it's probably even a lot more fucked up than anyone realizes.
Proof
Not trying to read all this shit. Can someone green text what was covered in Leaving Neverland?
Yes, the polar opposite of their public image. Obviously they are hiding things, but with MJ it's way too extreme and different to make sense.
a liar claiming he lied about lying and that he is not lying this time
What the fuck are you even sperging about?
He fucked kids. Get over it.
NO he didn't Trump said he didn't
Two of Wacko Jackos "special friends" have told their stories of sexual abuse by him
People are upset that these guys have previously defended michael, but have changed their tunes.