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BRAVO NOLAN

I appreciated the fact that the film didn't paint anyone has heroes, or try to give them backstories, romantic partners etc. and portrayed war as a helpless situation that they were all stuck in as 18-19 yr old boys. maybe the RAF arc could have had more variation, but the water and land arcs, along with Tom Hardy's last scene really drove home the point without any cheap sentimentality. plus, the movie looks amazing in IMAX. saving Private Ryan tried to manipulate viewers with the very premise of the mother who was about to lose all her sons. just felt really dishonest from the get go.

I know you’re being facetious but I unironically agree with this. If i wanted to watch something almost devoid of narrative pacing and pull id just fucking watch ww2 footage, why watch dunkirk which is a pg representation of that?

Tarantino and Villeneuve actually make good films though, even if they're sometimes overrated

This is 4channel lol contrarion opinions are the only opinions here for example Zack Snyder is the best patrician film maker and definitely not a hack

>If i wanted to watch something almost devoid of narrative pacing and pull id just fucking watch ww2 footage, why watch dunkirk which is a pg representation of that?
Because dude Nolan and Tom Hardy doing a silly voice and practical effects!

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Snyder is genuinely a great director. He has flaws, but his films are leagues ahead of other big-budget blockbuster directors. You sound pretty assmad. Perhaps try

>Don't believe his lies.

>without any cheap sentimentality

the climax is literally the cheesiest fucking thing. The swelling music and vortexing helicopter shots of several hundreds of boats arriving cutting back and forth to the soldiers tearing up and the people on the boat giving expressions that shout WE’RE HERE FOR OUR COUNTRY MEN WE DID IT WE DID IT

you wanna talk about dishonest? how about that? in real life the boats actually trickled back and forth, there was no big climax. So on the one hand its a realistic and no nonsense depiction of this real story but on the other hand it “tries” to have these sentimental moments without making us actually care for the characters. It wants to have its cake and eat it too

Dunkirk was a mess
it was an exercise in practical effects and an excuse for Nolan to use IMAX and shit
0 story, 0 narrative, 0 immersion, it's like you start watching Interstellar and the movie starts from the second Cooper takes off from Earth, it's ass

Tarantino's work really has gone downhill though and he's not beyond criticism. Interstellar was the only Nolan film I disliked, and I am yet to read honest criticism of Villeneuve's work on this board, although I'm open to it. arrival is his only film I was indifferent to. he's on a great run otherwise.

and the worst part is that nolan fanboys prop it up as a great film not in spite of its lack of characterization or narrative beats, but BECAUSE of them

Feels like im in bizzaro world

Yeah but I felt like the WE'RE HERE was to show the difference between what really happened and what the country's public thought. Harry styles character at one point said, "but we just survived" and the old guy said "that's good enough" which made the "cheesy" moment seem appropriate.

Dunkirk was by far his best movie.

This. For a war movie there was very little going on in it. It was boring as fuck.

>What were your qualms with it?
It's a mess: visually inconsistent with characters disappearing and teleporting between shots, what little dialogue there is is still appalling, weak performances, no characterisation, an interesting event told in the most boring style imaginable (without getting into the way he fucked up a cool idea in the three timelines) and all the horror of war removed so that it could be sold to a pg-13 audience.
Anyone who likes it is basically admitting that they are incapable of discerning cinematic quality. Congrats on outing yourself as a pleb.

Nolan is unironically a hack though

tarantinos absolute worst film is a masterpiece compared to nolans best. Nolan’s films lack humanity, charm, life. The only reason the dark knight is loved here is because of hardy’s meme performance, which is fucking fantastic, but had little to do with nolan, seeing as how EVERYTHING else in the dark knight rises is really fucking bad

>all the plot point mental midget getting filtered
Memento and Dunkirk are Nolan's best films. I sincerely hope he continues on the same path

>Congrats on outing yourself as a pleb
I don't really care what strangers on the internet think of me. Just trying to have a discussion.

>The only reason the dark knight is loved here is because of hardy’s meme performance
>hardy's
fucking lmao

btw, does anyone on this thread know where I can watch his short film on the Quay brothers? can't find it anywhere on the internet

It was bland and inoffensive that's all dunkirk has going for it. I watched it during a binge on war movies and compared to other classics like a bridge too far or stalingrad (93) it didn't have anything especially memorable in it. I barely even remember the characters because Nolan didn't bother to flesh them out.

you act like plot points and structure are completely insignificant to film making

sure they can be of little importance if we’re talking something like sans soleil or onions cuba, very artsy ethereal films, but dunkirk isnt that. Its like putting a go pro on a soldiers head at dunkirk, censoring all the gore, and then injecting half baked cheesey sentimental moments

A bridge too far is a fucking classic
check out the longest day, it's grand too.

yes yes cia was funny too

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What is it about Snyder that triggers trannies and feminists so much that you take a dig at him every chance you get? I don't understand at all.

Looks good I definitely will.

Imagine the situation.
You grow up, thoroughly uninterested in your dad's collection of "classics". You watch one or two and see the technical skill involved and everyone tells you how great the films are and how revered they are, so you agree not wanting to rock the boat. But secretly they give you no joy and you would never choose to watch them. As you get older, you might claim one of them as one of your favourite films to seem cultured and intelligent. You don't really enjoy it, but by lying to yourself like this, it makes you think you have refined taste.
Then the mcu comes out and you have all these stupid funny action films with lots of explosions and non-stop exposition to remind you what's going on (though often it's contradictory or just makes no sense if you stop and think about it). And reviewers give these films good scores so you feel smart by liking them. Afterall, these are "nerd" films that are acclaimed, so they must be great, right?
You feel confident that your taste is finally good because it aligns with the critics and it's just "niche" enough. "Oh, I hate transformers" you might say, "but the mcu, that's a cinematic achievement. It's funny but it also asks you real questions and there are references that you have to be really clever to get" you continue smugly.
And then Man of Steel comes out, or worse yet, Batman V Superman. And you're lost. There are no quips and not enough "nerd" references and it's not fun and it reminds you of those old movies your dad likes. But reviewers hate them too so you jump on the hate wagon hoping to hate the films out of existence. Because the films show you what the genre could be and you don't like it. You want every film to be a fun marvel film that you can turn your brain off to enjoy while essentially napping with your eyes open.

And Zack Snyder is responsible for that feeling and so you hate him the most.

i'm so often reminded that people on Yea Forums have shit opinions

" dunkirk was a mess"

seriously kys u stupid faggots

Plot points are most certainly not the focus of any truly great film.

Tell me the plot points of the Mirror. Or 2001. Or Blade Runner.
Plot points are merely a vehicle to deliver the visual narrative, which is the important part.

thank you! I don't even know how you found this.

>I don't like your opinion but I'm too stupid to refute it or verbalise my own opinion

you also need to care about the visual narrative, you have to be reeled in somehow. There is a reason koyaanisqatsi is largely forgotten

lol what a nigger
go jerk off to knight of cups

Knight of the Cups has a very weak visual narrative though, in no way comparable to those three films. It's closer to a youtube video than to a film

Couldn't have said any better. You could also add that the audience is so fucking brainwashed with the fast-food tier disney movies, that they automatically hate anything outside of it's formula. And that is what Snyder underestimated. He thought he could fix the system by making real movies. Little did he knew that people rate a movie by it's collection and RT scores these days and both these are controlled by the formula-babies.

>literally nothing but capeshit and zombie flicks
>"""real movies"""
fucking lmao

the opinion makes no sense
the movie portrayed exactly what we expected to see out of a ww2 film, death, grit, a shitty beach, and some water
how could it possibly be a visual mess
god ur fucking retarded

doesn't matter what the premise is. real movies don't have to be all serious and depressing dealing with real world issues.

he doesn't even know the actors kek

>lol real movies mean movies with real world stories with real world stuff
It's not like movies are just a portrayal of the creator's imaginations and stuff right?

the absolute state of Nolan haters

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dude please go watch any actual real movie and stop embarrassing yourself
go watch Sorcerer or Das Boot, stop with this manchild bullshit

And Synder's imagination is literally just spandex superheroes and zombies.
Sounds like the imagination of a 12 year old

>literally names the 2 most entry level cinephile movies
you can't be serious. this is bait, right?

It would pretty retarded to recommend anything remotely obscure to a capeshit manchild, but sure if you want then go on and watch On the Silver Globe, Institute Benjamenta and The Offence

Who the fuck recommended capeshit to anyone user? Nobody even said Snyder's movies are GOAT. Just that he perfected the genre he worked on and literally got shit on for doing so because "muh colors".

it's ok, the guy you're replying to is a teenager who's based his entire personality on the media he consumes. let him feel superior for watching movies he thinks are obscure. we all went through that stage at one point.

He's only good at copy pasting graphic novels on the big screen
BvS sucked hard because there was nothing to copy paste like Watchmen and 300

>death
In pg-13 retardedness
>grit
See above
>a shitty beach
A very clean beach devoid of rubble or destruction
>and some water
Congrats?
>how could it possibly be a visual mess
Because there's no visual consistency between shots

>Is there a lower hanging fruit than criticising popular filmmakers like Nolan, Tarantino or Villeneuve?
Criticizing unanimously praised classical directors like Kubrick, Tarkovsky, Bergman etc.
That being said, aside from Reservoir Dogs and Pulp Fiction Tarantino is a shitty director and deserving of every criticism he gets.

But BvS was a masterpiece?

Imagine unironically using
>muh story
as an argument.

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but Im so hyped for the Leo Brad tarankino FUCCKKK

Like with everything Tarantino-related, I'm hoping for the best but preparing for the worst.

I disagree. Each frame of BvS is like a page ripped from the comic book. And it was an amazing film just for that matter. The perfect casting, Hans Zimmer+ Junke XL helped too.

When people started comparing this guy, with his TV-style big close-ups, pseudo-stoic values and general lack of stylistic moxie, to Stanley Kubrick, because he made big, solemn movies in bro-identified genres, the American cinema had already died. The closing of theaters is a mere formality.

There's a lot of filmmakers still making good shit. Normie tier opinions have always existed. Chill.

No, critical acclaim has never been so influenced by fanboy influence before, and the sheer lack of endeavor on display in his work would never have been mistaken for the expression of a major vision in previous generations. "Normies" generally have better taste.

I know towing the moral line and making content that's wholesome and sociopolitically agenda is what gets accolades now, but that doesn't mean there aren't people still making quality movies.

*agenda driven

Just because you're wrong doesn't mean youre right