Who should direct a film based on this?

>The photograph depicts United States Air Force Lt Col Robert L. Stirm being reunited with his family, after spending more than five years in captivity as a prisoner of war in North Vietnam.

>Despite outward appearances, the reunion was an unhappy one for Stirm. Three days before he arrived in the United States, the same day he was released from captivity, Stirm received a Dear John letter from his wife Loretta informing him that their marriage was over. Stirm later learned that Loretta had been with other men throughout his captivity, receiving marriage proposals from three of them. In 1974, the Stirms divorced and Loretta remarried, but Lt Col Stirm was still ordered by the courts to provide her with 43% of his military retirement pay once he retired from the Air Force. Stirm was later promoted to full Colonel and retired from the Air Force in 1977.

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smdailyjournal.com/news/local/a-pow-s-story/article_151797cc-c5cb-5689-949c-615f218bd038.html
mercurynews.com/2012/09/18/john-horgan-foster-city-man-in-famous-photo-remembers-time-in-hanoi-hilton/
people.com/archive/a-pows-marriage-ends-bitterly-vol-1-no-5/
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I hate this board.

Damn that's fast

those are frogs.

Why the fuck was that thread deleted?

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Are women pure evil, Yea Forums? I'm thinking Hell must be all-men because Satan doesn't want them there.

How can do that and live with themselves? How can they wake up every day and spend money they robbed from someone they betrayed so horribly?

OP just spent two hours of his life making this stupid fucking picture lol

link?

Pretty based actually

>two hours

Nah. It takes me about 20-30 minutes.

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After Burst of Joy was announced as the winner of the Pulitzer Prize, all of the family members depicted in the picture received copies. They all display it prominently in their homes, except the Stirm patriarch, who says he cannot bring himself to display the picture, given the betrayal he suffered from his wife on the home front.

Maybe she thought he was dead or never coming home. Why shouldn't she fuck other men after a certain period of time?

Then why did she write him a letter, roastie apologist?

Why should she get 43% of his military retirement? Bitch did jack shit to serve this country.

Do women have no morality?

>After Burst of Joy was announced as the winner of the Pulitzer Prize, all of the family members depicted in the picture received copies. They all display it prominently in their homes, except the Stirm patriarch, who says he cannot bring himself to display[5] the picture, given the betrayal he suffered from his wife on the home front.

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No, women are not pure evil.

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LONDON

She didn't know until he was coming home if I remember the story correctly
She shouldn't

imagine having three kids, the government paying for your potentially dead husband, and still sleeping around enough to be proposed to THREE TIMES.

>post the original image in the last thread
>now immortalized for a new generation

It was a real life kino thread that had some good examples

Make a wojack of this then

See you in 30 minutes

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my gf says her favorite movie is gladiator, does this mean she is capable of understanding loyalty, honor and sacrifice?

bump

It's gone, MacCready.

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It means Joaquin Phoenix is in it

no it means she is creaming her pants to prime russel crowe

>21st century women
I'd say I'm glad to be gay, but I don't exactly have a great selection either. Maybe I should just stay alone.

Hot

>he didn't behead her

this is why islam is based

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btw the one in the front going in for the hug is his daughter
idk if anyone has already cleared that up
the wife is the pepe with the white skirt and black sweater

>After Robert Stirm’s return, his wife of nearly 20 years managed to capitalize on their subsequent divorce. Loretta was given custody of two of their four children, the family home, and nearly half of Stirm’s pension. At the time, Stirm remarked: “It’s not fair. It’s just not. I’m the one that lives with all the aches and pains from my imprisonment, but she continues to get paid.” That certainly makes the fact that Loretta is there in the photograph, smiling wide at her then-husband, all the more painful. Even his children had trouble with his return.

>His daughter, Lorrie, was quoted as saying: “So much had happened—there was so much that my dad missed out on—and it took a while to let him back into our lives and accept his authority.”

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>Maybe I should just stay alone.
its ultimately for the best

HOW COME MILITARY PEOPLE GET KEKED SO FUCKING MUCH

IT HAPPENS IN MOVIES, TV, VIDEO GAMES, MUSIC

ITS A COMMON THEME

WHY?? AREN'T THESE PEOPLE STRONGER THEN THE AVERAGE JOE?

EVEN IN MY WOW GUILD THE WIFE OF THE MILITARY GUY WAS A MASSIVE TEASE

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Only the biggest cucks would voluntarily enlist to get killed in some ME bumfuck for the Greater Jew. Army faggots deserve every bit of cuckery coming their way.

Kill all women.

>Robert Stirm never liked to look at "Burst of Joy." For him, it wasn't a joyous moment surreptitiously captured; it was a bitter reminder of everything he endured and everything he lost when he came home. He refused to hang the photograph in his home, and when asked about it, he described his feelings as “ambivalent.” As a POW, Stirm thought relentlessly about coming home to his family, and it was those thoughts that kept him alive in the face of torture.

>The heart of the tragedy that is Robert Stirm’s perspective on "Burst of Joy" is the letter his ex-wife Loretta Stirm wrote him only three days before his return home. In it, she details their unhappy marriage and how they only managed to “make each other miserable.” She did not think they were suited for each other.

>They did reportedly try to make their marriage work after Stirm’s homecoming, but divorced after a year.

My nigga didnt deserve this

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>WHY?? AREN'T THESE PEOPLE STRONGER THEN THE AVERAGE JOE?
they're not around for long periods of time, this should be obvious to you

Literally NEVER even consider getting married or having any kind of relationship when you serve. Women are pure evil.

Leaving a woman alone on a military base while you go overseas to protect israel is like leaving a kid alone in a candy store

>Stirm later learned that Loretta had been with other men throughout his captivity, receiving marriage proposals from three of them

cunt couldn't even wait five fucking years all while knowing he was still alive the entire time.

>dumb redneck flunkie who couldn't get an actual job signs up for the military, knowing full well they take just about everyone regardless of any talent or qualifications
>stupid trashy wife leaves to fuck some other redneck who wasn't too proud to just cash in on welfare

Such a tragedy.

Wtf Why?

>3 marriage proposals in a 5 year period

this bitch works fast yo

how though? weren't all the men off fighting?

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by their clothing you can tell they were extremely upper class people

he wasn't some dumb redneck

Vietnam wasn't WWII, you had to have an actual education from a 4 year university before they let you anywhere near an aircraft.

So it's like the first two seasons of homeland

This.

um sweaty today i will remind you

she did NOTHING WRONG

it was HIS FAULT for leaving her all alone with nobody to talk too about her feelings

sure is incel in this thread

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Beta orbiters

just watch the fucking documentary you stupid faggot

Why did this photo need a woman Pepe edit?

this nigga looks SO MUCH LIKE FUCKING WOJAK LOL

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>tfw you go overseas to protect the right of your women to vote only to come home and realize why that was a bad idea

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>the original JUST

"Women have always been the primary victims of war"

we need islam

>go overseas to bomb lil chink niggers and their shitty rice patties with some of the most deadliest weapons know to man that can literally melt flesh
>why did god make me a cuck?

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>vietnam fucking shits
>people

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>and it took a while to let him back into our lives and accept his authority.”

can you imagine being able to command a whole squad of 200 lb men and have them follow your orders to a dotted T and then you come home and your dumb 15 year old daughter can't accept your leadership?

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I would have killed everyone involved. NOTHING IS OVER
NOTHING

>I sat in a fucking cage for 5 years for this bitch to put on a short skirt and leave the house with the puerto rican exchange student

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Doesn't this happen in The Thin Red Line?

He just called them chink niggers you silly faggot

thots BTFO

Based

based

fucking based

H-he's fast

kek he actually did it the absolute madman!

>t. SEETHING incel

women should never be told the exact date you're coming back

>his post was 25 minutes ago

Holy fuck this nigga

"You know what? Women SHOULD have equal rights!"
- some asshole, a moment before ruining everything for everyone

I used to only think it was modern women who were completely terrible boy was that naive

more and more i don't believe in equality

but i feel like i cannot say this without people jumping at me for voicing my opinion unironically

when does equality begin for me?

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based

god of Yea Forums

>was still ordered by the courts to provide her with 43% of his military retirement pay once he retired from the Air Force
I'd murder her.
I wonder how many murders have been caused by alimony.

Well they are based so please never stop

kids don't go through boot camp

The bible has warnings about women all throughout it

Even the Epic of Gilgamesh has Gilgamesh telling a thoth to begone, resulting in the death of his best friend.

Dude it's even better than that
It was split 50/50 and not likely to pass and then this senator's mom basically scolded him into voting and now here we all are living in a hellscape

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Some are more equal than others.

>reversed his vote
what in the fuck

Only low test faggots don't want to go to another country and murder people for fun.

Somebody should make an AI that can convert photos to black and white lineart with the faces being replaced with pepes and wojacks.

history.com/news/american-womens-suffrage-19th-amendment-one-mans-vote

He should be reviled in history with the likes of Ghengis Khan and LBJ

god dammit Harry

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Genghis Khan had hundreds of wives and more sons then you ever will. He's a complete and utter CHAD

Who reviles Genghis? He was a fucking chad who improved the living conditions of countless slavs he conquered and had the first empire in human history with religious freedom guaranteed by law.

White knight basedboy cuckold.

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why the fuck do people even say ghengis is even a bad dude?

he was so far away from history that nobody alive could ever know what it was like to truly live under him

Liberals want to make DNA testing offspring illegal.

Mongol bad! Mongol conquer China! China good!

>imploring her son to “be a good boy and help Mrs. Catt put the ‘rat’ in ratification.”
>“I know that a mother’s advice is always safest for her boy to follow,” he explained
jesus christ
ghengis khan did nothing wrong tho

>I'm thinking Hell must be all-men
Literally the opposite.
> It was narrated from the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) that women will form the majority of the people of Hell. It was narrated from ‘Imran ibn Husayn that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “I looked into Paradise and I saw that the majority of its people were the poor. And I looked into Hell and I saw that the majority of its people are women.”

> (Narrated by al-Bukhari, 3241; Muslim, 2737)

By the way, Satan doesn’t rule Hell.

Ghengis DNA rape-baby defense force out in force tonight

wojak just needs the same hair as the killer and this would be godtier

Kill every woman.

Do you have any arguments at all against the Mongol Empire's greatness?

>I can't possibly believe that one of the most wealthy and powerful men in the world had women wanting to sleep with him!
not saying he didn't rape, but I'm sure there were plenty of consensual encounters with a man of such magnitude

joining the military and getting married are the two dumbest decisions you can make as a man, they know what they're getting into

Better than the incel hating on chads. Yeah we get it, women suck. The Vietnam vet got cucked despite the shit he went through.

Yet Genghis was an actual chad who took the women, made them his bitch, and fathered entire demographics with his super-semen. Genghis is the OG Chad, and the example we should aspire if we want to BTFO the eternal THOT

youtube.com/watch?v=uUxrJk-X1oQ

AHAHAHAHAHAH

Okay, getting a bit cringe there user.

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i hate women

Stay cucked, then.

I'm the user that requested this and I gladly concede you are more based and redpilled than I. Have these dubs as my apology sir.

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i agree

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yes all that /pol/ romanticizing muh trad white wiauf is bullshit. Don't get me wrong, go have a family and children if you want to, but see women fo what they are without romantic lenses.

it genuinely makes me happy that this white man suffered and got hurt. he deserved it for being who he is. i hope he died broke, alone, and miserable. i'll look him up, and if his grave is nearby i'll go there tomorrow and piss on it.

>The photograph depicts United States Air Force Lt Col Robert L. Stirm being reunited with his family, after spending more than five
we should archive it
BTFO

idk maybe the tens of millions he killed in name of conquest? but sure if he's a bad guy then all western conquerors also are.

>killing pakis and chinks is bad!
No it fucking isn't.

What the heck, Schlomo! This white male valiantly fought for Israel while his wife was hard at work destroying the traditions of civilized western world. Theirs was the exceptional goyim family.

nigga I was just explaining why someone would this he's bad? I really don't feel for insectoids.

this but unironically

ree etc

maybe if she had settled with one other guy but

>was with so many men she got three marriage proposals

thats ridiculous

Of course. You're right but no sane person would argue against you.

this coward wasn't even willing to sacrifice himself for israel, he deserves nothing. white people exist only to serve and should be punished for their failure to die when their master has commanded them to.

Patience my brother. First we must perfect artificial wombs and traps. Then the roast get's trimmed

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Because those who join the military usually marry the kind of women that are prone to do this.

Roastie getting dabbed on by boomer husband cucking her with traps.

AHHHHHHH
AHHHHHHH
AHHHHHHH
AHH-
ah fuck it they would have just wind up revoting again at some point anyway like they're going to do with brexit, who are we kidding. This shit was on the A G E N D A, like homo-marriage and trans-rights, it has nothing to do with democracy.

This. It wasn't his mother that made him change his vote.

nah fuck you wojak

spending a few hours of your day to make something you want to make is better than spending the rest of your life making money for someone you hate.

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My thoughts exactly user. I love making OC.

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What’s the original

Jake Patterson, a kidnapper who got caught.

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H-HAYAI!

Okay, getting a bit reddit there betacuck

Imagine feeling so valueless that the government doesn't give a damn that you fought for their interests when you could have been looking out for yourself. It really is an amazing photo, really captures how much a soldier's effort costs so much yet achieved nothing.

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Uhh, that brave, courageous woman RAISED THE CHILDREN AND TOOK CARE OF THE FAMILY ON HER OWN while that piece of shit man was doing NOTHING productive.

based

彼は速い

godspeed you user

>His daughter, Lorrie, was quoted as saying: “So much had happened—there was so much that my dad missed out on—and it took a while to let him back into our lives and accept his authority"
Merriadoc Brandybuck would like a word

Reminder that his first "son" Jochi was 99% likely to be some rival tribesman's baby who cucked Genghis when he kidnapped and fucked his wife.

Typical americuck

His grandson replied to this article and conviently leaves out how his grandfather got cucked in the divorce:

smithsonianmag.com/history/coming-home-106013338/

>To those that touched on his first wife's (and my grandmother) "infidelity", I think everyone should know that his children and their mother did not know the status of their father/husband. He was a POW for 6 years, and for 6 long years his 4 children grew up being told by the military that they had no idea where their father was or if he was alive. They were never told that he was being held as a POW, or if he would ever return, or he was even alive or dead. The same went for his wife, who had struggled as a homemaker who had never paid bills or managed family matters until her husband left for Vietnam. After several years of heartache and struggle, life played it's course and a new relationship developed for Loretta. The "Dear John" letter was written so that Loretta could come to terms that her husband was not coming back and that life was moving on, she wrote it expecting him to never see it, as she heartbreakingly believed she would never see him again. Upon his return, she broke off her relationship and attempted to salvage her broken family now that all of the pieces had physically been put back together. Unfortunately, the marriage would not survive, and both remarried (Col. Stirm divorced in the last 10 years, and Loretta passed away from Cancer in 2010, still married to the same man she had met while Col. Stirm was a POW). This is an extremely sensitive family matter, and I beg all who choose to comment publicly, to please refrain from passing judgement on either person with regards to the relationship between Col. Robert Stirm & Loretta. Thank you.

Army aviator here (ret). I was flying when I was still in college, but I went to one of the senior military colleges. Dunno if you can do that at any other ROTC program, or even all of the SMCs.

>referring to a relative by their rank
I hate that.

>relative
He was a complete stranger.

BASED, based thread in this thread!! BASED!!1 WHIOAH!! BASED! OH SHIT!! LOOK at that, a based THREAD! WOW!!!

I can't believe i have the honour of seeing this wonderfully based thread. so many threads to see, but i have seen this one. absolutely incredible, i feel like a better human being after seeing it.

I don't understand. Are you a woman? Is this why you are upset?

Gotta make sure men don't wake up, right roastie?

To me it sounds like he and his mother sided with his Grandmother in the divorce. It's the only way I can make sense out of how he talks about his Grandfather so dispassionately and how he can leave out how his Grandmother tried to ruin him financially. As if it were ok, that this man who was a POW for 6 years, never knowing if he'd see home again, or his wife and kids again, and be tortured and abused in a Vietnamese prison camp, if it was ok to just do him dirty like his Grandmother did. Could you imagine how hopeless it must have felt, as you assumed you may never see freedom again, and perhaps may die in some shithole country.

Shit some of the people in comments on the article act like he deserved it for not being happier when he met with his wife and kids after learning she was leaving him for another man she had been fucking behind his back. His own daughter didn't even stick with him.

>the only man to think women are equal
>he doomed all other men for his hubris

I don't refer to my uncle as W.O. user, I just say my "uncle".

But this was a piece of shit deadbeat who didn't take care of his family for 6 years so you can kind of understand why you'd want to keep your distance from him, you know?

Stirm describing what it was like being a POW

>Stirm was shot down over Hanoi, October, 1968. He was 35 years old. He was immediately captured and imprisoned. He spent the next 1,985 days as a POW. He was originally held in the Son Tay prison and was later moved to a prison commonly referred to as the Hanoi Hilton. He survived the six years next to highly trained Air Force officers — lawyers, doctors and scientists.

>The hundreds of men in captivity were fed "sauteed sewer greens,” pumpkin soup and ground-up pig remains. They were "sadistically” tortured. At one point, Stirm said he was nearly drawn and quartered. He survived that incident with two dislocated shoulders, he said.

>Many of the U.S. soldiers were kept in solitary confinement. They were forced to communicate with each other through a tap code that did not need the "dash” used in Morris Code. The soldiers would signal each other by tapping "Shave and a Hair Cut.” If the double-dash signifying two bits came back, the soldiers were free of enemy ears, Stirm said.

>"It sounded like you were in the press room with all the typewriters,” Stirm said. "Every night we’d tap good night and God bless.”

>military wives
Why even bother? It always ends like that.

>Advanced survival training helped keep Stirm and many of his fellow soldiers alive.

>They were all trained to memorize the names of every other imprisoned soldier. Stirm would recite approximately 250 names alphabetically, twice a day, he said.

>"You’ve got to keep you mind busy. I tried to recreate my life. I reconstructed my kindergarten class, first grade ... It’s all in your mind,” Stirm said.

>As an older POW, Stirm felt it necessary to lift the spirits of others. As Stirm saw it, he has already had the chance to marry and have children. There were younger POWs who drove themselves to despair thinking of what they might miss if never rescued. It was Stirm, and others like him, that helped those men survive.

smdailyjournal.com/news/local/a-pow-s-story/article_151797cc-c5cb-5689-949c-615f218bd038.html

He figured he had to cheer up the other younger soldiers who may never get married or have kids...

Imagine being so cucked that you leave your wife & kids to go to Vietnam just because the government asks you to.

Got what he deserved, tbqh

>Stirm, a 1950 graduate of San Mateo High School and an alumnus of College of San Mateo, grew up in leafy San Mateo Park. His horrific prison experience was a far cry from the suburban comforts of his family home on quiet Clark Drive.

>Tortured, starved and denied meaningful medical care, Stirm, at one grim point, weighed less than 100 pounds, but he managed to survive.

>Stirm is classified as 100 percent disabled. He suffers from chronic joint problems, particularly in his compromised shoulders, knees and feet (he was hung by his arms, with his shoulders stretched out of their sockets, and beaten and struck regularly, among other punishments).

>“Name a disease,” he adds, “and I probably had it.” Three times, he says he was taken in front of a firing squad for what seemed to be a scheduled execution. All three occasions were cruel ruses to get him to divulge information. He says he didn’t do so.

>“I was one of the more senior officers,” he recalls. “For some reason, they thought I had a direct line to (President) Lyndon Johnson. I was a hard-liner. I lived with my information throughout the period.”

>Asked if he has come to terms with the behavior of his brutal captors and his systematic wartime mistreatment and imprisonment, the blunt Stirm, who has not returned to Vietnam since his release, categorically states, “No.” He does not elaborate.

mercurynews.com/2012/09/18/john-horgan-foster-city-man-in-famous-photo-remembers-time-in-hanoi-hilton/

HAHAHAHAHA

Men truly are subhumans for putting up with this shit

If you don't beat your wife, if you let her go anywhere without supervision, you deserve to be cucked

20 a day, boys. It's not just PTSD that does them in. It's shit like this.

I wonder what was going through the judge's mind when he decided this man should give half his income to that bitch.

Wasn't the movie Two Brothers about this?

Peter Parker gets cucked by his own brother while he is in an afghani camp, and even his own kids hate him
In the end he forgives his roastie wife and all is well

Probably
>Hahaha what a stupid fucking christian goy, ahahaha!

Trump and Bolton were right to skip this shit

>Embittered by his wife’s action against him, Stirm chose to fight for custody of all his children and resist her demands for her share of the community property. “Loretta got $136,000 in government allotments while I was in Vietnam,” he told the court, “and I want a share of it. I haven’t shared in any community in six-and-a-half years. I was sitting in that rotten, stinking hole.” Loretta, 38, asked for 50% of virtually everything Stirm owned, including half the $9,830 POW allotment granted him by the U.S. government to compensate for time spent in confinement and half his Air Force pension. “All those dreams I had in prison were nothing but dust,” Stirm complained angrily. “I’ve been taken to the cleaners.”

>Stung by his wife’s lawsuit, he countered with evidence that she’d been unfaithful. “Mrs. Stirm was…human,” her lawyer admitted. “It was not unusual for POW wives to become emotionally involved with others during the absence of their husbands.”

>Last month came the judge’s decision, and for Stirm it was a galling defeat. His wife was awarded custody of Cindy and Roger, plus the Stirms’ $24,000 suburban home and their car. Stirm must pay $300 a month child support. In addition, he was ordered to hand over 40% of whatever pension he will eventually receive. Although the court denied Loretta a share of his POW allotment and refused any alimony claim, it ruled nothing could be done about the $136,000 she’d already received. She was ordered to pay back $1,500 she’d spent traveling with other men, but Stirm was hardly mollified. “I’d like someone—maybe the federal government—to step forward and grant me my constitutional rights,” he declared bitterly. “My service was honorable; hers was not.”

people.com/archive/a-pows-marriage-ends-bitterly-vol-1-no-5/

durka hurka durka durka LMAO

just like my ntr hentai

Because the legal system assumes women are homemakers, not breadwinners. The man isn’t doing anything with that money - not now he’s divorced - so clearly it should go to the divorcee who would otherwise be bereft of funds while caring for children.

It’s the same reason women almost always get custody of the children. Because the legal system is horribly biased and assumes men are knuckle-dragging wifebeaters and women are battered housewives who think University is where you go to “meet eligible men.”

You're the boss of my gym user

At that point it's just better to get a gun and kill everyone involved. What more can they do to you?

Whoa

He chose to fight for Israel, he is too much of a pussy to do anything like that

>>Asked if he has come to terms with the behavior of his brutal captors and his systematic wartime mistreatment and imprisonment, the blunt Stirm, who has not returned to Vietnam since his release, categorically states, “No.” He does not elaborate.
That fucker bombed people from a foreign nation on that nation's soil and walked away alive with it. I'd say he should have been happy to stay alive.

>travelling

Women... Women never change...

What are you trying to convey?

Is it really any wonder why marriage rates are dropping? Who in their right mind would marry in this day and age?

Clint Eastwood directs.
Brendan Fraser stars.

This. Soldiers who went to Vietnam were all psychos who jumped at the chance to kill someone for fun. I hope they cut his dick off.

>Brendan Fraser
Make it so.

nothing lol i just thought this thread was interesting, based, cooll, etc

That's right, don't get married, ehehehe

Stick to anime, ehehehehe

you should have been swallowed

nice b8

If they weren't psychos, why did they all volunteer to invade a random foreign country?

Its just the same as the quote from the Stalingrad veteran kid who had women telling him they didnt care if the Russians were coming. Theyd just spread their legs.

War is a male abstraction and one men are becoming too redpilled to fall for. Women have evolved literally to move on quickly after their partners die and in the age of Modern War where most soldiers are killed by explosions.
Its fair to assume.

Fuck her. Loyalty is everything and she should have kept it shut or stopped claiming his money. Certainly the divorce was bullshit but society has to stop riasing its sons on literal proWar WW1/WW2 propaganda. Giving them a warped reality.

I’m glad i’m old enough to have known real veterans of those wars who were all fairly noncommital to the ‘Great Crusade’ and mostly talked about the money they made. My Granda and pretty much everyone i’ve heard of was single or with someone else by the end of the war simply because its not ok for a rationship to be all but out of touch for literally years. Let alone six where you’re assumed dead.

Stirn was probably away for 10+ why was he naive enough to get married.

>volunteer

Yeah, volunteer. They saw a chance to go kill someone and they took it. They had it coming.

I know this is probably bait but come on now.

>bombed people from a foreign nation on that nation's soil and walked away alive with it.
So now we're just ignoring the fact that said nation was actively invading its neighbours and murdering tens, maybe hundreds of thousands every year?

>what are draft lotteries

>Hey lets just let communism spread, I am sure it wouldn't affect USA's world position in any way
This is your mind on KGB infiltrated education

The post was so over-the-top it sounds sarcastic.

>Air Force LtCol
>Nah
This was a war that had PHD students as infantry. Its safe to assume Stirn volunteered.

So, you're a starving artist. Good for you.

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Sounds to me like she is a whore.

Do you feel the same way about Korean war veterans? Innocent Norks just wanted to liberate their southern brothers

How many of those kids are actually his?

>(((american judicial system)))

Only the one jumping up to him.

Someone post this shit on lolcow

>what are other reasons for joining the military, like financial reasons

What happened to this bitch in the end? I can only hope she was shunned by her family and friends for what she did, but I somehow doubt it.
Honestly if I was Stirm I'd have probably killed her. He seems like a much stronger man than I'd ever be.

This. Dying in a jungle is better than working.

Trying way too hard, making it way too obvious.

He was a POW for 6 years (don't know how much longer he was away)
the running girl is 15, the youngest looks 9 or 10
I think they all are his.

Oh yeah. So, to stop "killings of tens, maybe hundreds of thousands every year", Americans came and killed hundreds of thousands every year until they finally fucked off from the country.

>how though? weren't all the men off fighting?

The ACTUAL men were.
However, a lot of "men" actually stayed at home during the Vietnam War, smoking pot in the safety of the United States in between rounds of public protesting and setting fire to American flags.

meant to reply to

weak cope lol
stay cucked

You can never be too sure when you're married to a whore.

>start a war
>die

Shocking outcome.

>be POW
>after several years go free
>your family hates you because you inconvenience them with your reappearance but they also want that sweet pension money

But my friends on reddit told me being a man was life on EZ mode?

Kinda sounds like the plot to Rolling Thunder, I wonder if that's what it was inspired by.

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>omg why are you fighting against Communists in a genocidal takeover of a sovereign nation you MONSTERS

Daily reminder that the USSR completely succeeded in infiltrating the Western Education Systems.

While I understand the principle here, the fact remains that there is a big difference between leadership based on organized governmental rank and authority and leadership based on intra-familial trust.

He's also unequivocally the most murderous single person in the entire known history of Planet Earth. So there's also that.

He gave his enemies a fair chance to submit.

>but sure if he's a bad guy then all western conquerors also are.

Genghis Khan literally killed 20 times as many people as the most murderous western conqueror ever did.

>hey, i'm gonna take over your house and enslave you and your family and fuck your wife, but if you don't fight you won't die. probably. cool? cool.

>Commit genocide
>Get your shit pushed in
>"W-W-We're the victim here! You fought us so that m-makes you just as b-bad!"

Tell me again about how the Nazis were the good guys. Also kill yourself while you are at it.

>ignoring the fact that life under the mongol empire was objectively safer and more prosperous than life outside it
Fucking Chink.

Why did she receive alimony if she remarried? Isn't alimony reserved for single women who are unlikely to remarry or find a new partner?

Men who marry are mentally challenged, period. I haven't a quantum of pity for these cucks.

If this happens to you, and you feel like you have to ask strangers on the internet before making a decision, it's you're own fault. He's obviously weak it's no surprise that someone took advantage of him

How about you prove me the genocide first? And HELLOOOOOOOO, Americans did not kill Vietcongs only, innocent people too.

>ignoring the fact that life under the mongol empire was objectively safer and more prosperous than life outside it

If that were true they wouldn't have had to conquer anybody. They could have instead relied on diplomacy or people outright defecting to join them, or even organic rebellions starting to overthrow their own oppressors that the Mongols could take advantage of.

But the fact is that life in the Mongol empire, where you at best lived like a nomadic caveman that was a disposable piece of military fodder, but were more likely to just be an impoverished slave, was outright dog-shit, even compared to other medieval societies at the time.

based islam

>How about you prove me the genocide first?

>needing proof of genocide by the Communist Vietnamese
Or really,
>needing proof of ANY Communist genocide

Are you one of those people who unironically thinks the Armenian Genocide didn't happen.

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to be fair he also conquered 20 times as much

That's not what weakness is, he just thought he could see women as mature grown-up individuals that he could put his trust in and he doesn't understand what exactly happened. We've all been there.

judging by the current flag of vietnam wanton killing doesnt do much to affect world position

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>If that were true they wouldn't have had to conquer anybody.
You're incredibly naive if you don't understand the concept of honor culture. Improved living conditions mean NOTHING to people who believe in the concept of honor and pride.
A lot of people did submit willingly as well.
>But the fact is that life in the Mongol empire, where you at best lived like a nomadic caveman that was a disposable piece of military fodder, but were more likely to just be an impoverished slave, was outright dog-shit, even compared to other medieval societies at the time.
Where are you pulling this bullshit? Doctors, priests and teachers were exempt form taxation within the Mongol empire. Europe at the time was still ass-backwards compared to the level of culture and learning the Mongol empire possessed.
I bet you don't even know about the Pax Mongolica either since you think literally everyone living in that empire was some kind of Mad Max raider.

The Young Turks are literally allowed to have a media empire
History is written by the victors

It's one thing to say you jumped on dicks because you thought your husband was dead and you couldn't live without a man. It's a whole other matter that when your husband returns from 6 years of imprisonment you decide to take half his shit.

>The Young Turks
>a media empire
wat

Marrying a military man is a guaranteed payday. Bitches know this and it is why they swarm around military bases. I grew up in a city with a major Air Force Base and the cunts would go out of their way to snag an enlisted man. Inevitably he would be deployed, they would instantly cheat, and within a year or two of his coming back they divorce him and take him for half his guaranteed pay.

Why don't equality fighters protest to change this, since it's such a stereotypical view of genders and it's 2019?

We stone cheating women and their bfs get your facts checked

>In addition, he was ordered to hand over 40% of whatever pension he will eventually receive.
What the fuck is wrong with americans, letting the ex wife have half of what you make even when you're already paying child support, and this was fucking decades ago.

He was a deadbeat who didn't support her for 6 years you fucking retard, he should've given her more to be fair.

5/10 try again

It's a fact that he did nothing for his family for six years. They had to fend for themselves while he was lounging around with his mates. The based judge recognized this.

Still trying too hard 6/10

I know it’s kind of weird to hear but infidelity rates have gone DOWN since the 90’s, not up.
Go talk to your grandpa and ask if he ever fooled around outside his girlfriend/wife and he’ll either dodge the question or brag about it.

It was just something everyone did then

She was left to struggle financially and psychologically by herself, it's only basic human decency that he should make it up to her

fucking die blown out diseased cunt. You fucking worthless whore. I at least could be used as a cannon fodder but you breathe out posion with every breath exhaled. Fucking kill yourself and claim your place beside satan

Couldn't she just forgo the fucking payment? Fine your'e a bitch who can't just wait but at least leave him the money HE FUCKING EARNED ESPECIALLY WHEN HE WAS FUCKING CAPTIVITY

Welcome to realizing why people snap at others.

logic goes out the window when a woman cries

>no color

Way to fail.

Men can be assholes too but that women deserves everything bad she gets for the rest of her life.

Nigga I said grandpa, not grandma.
This is the literal truth of history.

He said grandpa you dumb fuck.

>this woman is fucking whore in particular
>oh nononono everyone is a fucking whore back then it says right here in the statistic so she should get a pass
I'll drag you by the neck over the street until you're dust

>risk your lives and precious years in the service of geriatric armchair generals and corporate execs
>your gf/wife cucks you while you dodge bullets in some shithole on the other side of the globe
>all in the name of loyalty and pride for an abstract concept conjured by beltway pansies
Americucks everyone.

It wasn't a woman you idiot. Are you so stupid you don't know what grandPA is?

If there's one thing I learned from my time in the Navy, it's that you should never get seriously involved while you're enlisted. The female enlisted always jump on the cocks of whoever the chads of the squadron are (in my case, it was the Search-and-Rescue guys), and all the guys get whores when they hit port, from the most junior enlisted, to the CO. There's also bars in San Diego that you can go to that are known watering holes of "Westpac Widows", aka "wives of guys who are currently on a 6+ month deployment, and are looking for a random Jody to fuck".

As someone in the military, who fucking hates it, this doesn't surprise me. If you're married 5-10 years you're entitled to 50% of the pension (half your salary for life) he would get. It's why so many end up living in trailer homes on bases after retirement. That and pissing away money and falling into debt because they're man children. Most senior enlisted are divorced at least once and get cucked on deployment

I guess if there's any solace to be taken, it's that cancer eventually did her in.

>HURRR DURR HE FOUGHT FOR FREEDUMS AND JUSTICE BY FLYING HALFWAY ACROSS THE WORLD AND SHOOTING GOOK FARMERS
Only faggots went to Vietnam to fight for the jew. I hope his wife got properly BLACKED in the meantime

was Islam the first beta uprising?

It's either that, or get thrown in prison. It's not like the dude could just opt out.

Lol seriously. Women are a complete meme.

Yeah, going to war and potentially dying is so much better than going to prison.

>nations are an abstract concept

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If you serve in the military in the peace times you set yourself upon to get cucked like this. It's a price for a decent livelihood despite having no education and being fucking stupid.

>Yeah, going to war and potentially dying is so much better than going to prison and then having to spend the rest of your life flipping burgers, because nobody will hire you with your military record, not to mention losing a bunch of rights and government benefits.

ftfy. Anyway, it's a little difficult to be a "contentious objector" when you've got a family to take care of.

>and then having to spend the rest of your life flipping burgers, because nobody will hire you with your military record, not to mention losing a bunch of rights and government benefits.
Because this is somehow worse than dying or becoming an invalid who has to give half of his retirement benefits to a cunt who cheated on him with three different people at least?
Face it. There's is no reason to go to war.

More like Incelam

All you had to do was say you're gay, or mentally unfit.

>volunteer

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t. Americuck

Sauce?

No. She divorced so she gets alimony.
That's how it works in America.

>government benefits

OH GEE GOLLY GEE THE SAME I WOULD GET IF I WAS UNEMPLOYED AND HAD NO MONEY? Dumb fuck.

he was a Lieutenant so yeah he volunteered. They don't draft officers. You are still replying to bait, though

I'll add that to my list sir

Yeah I guess loretta was a good person after all and she only cheated and ditched her husband because she "heartbreakingly" (as if she had one) thought she would never see him again.
I guess while she's at it, she may as well take half of all his shit after gleefully accepting his money from the government for 5 years while riding the cock carousel. If she had a shred of decency she should have accepted that the divorce was entirely on her, and she had no entitlement to anything Stirm has earned. The fact that she even filed for half of his god damn POW allotment just show what an atrocious person she really was.
This guy just can't accept that his grandma was a fucking psychopathic whore who deserved to rot from cancer and burn in hell.

>they would instantly cheat, and within a year or two of his coming back they divorce him and take him for half his guaranteed pay.
Since this behavior seems prevalent, isn't there some kind of law or military rule for preventing it?

Fantastic post

>take this upvote and gold, good sir
could you be more reddit?

Oh he based

nah, fuck you leather man

>History is written by the victors

History BOOKS are written by the victors.
Reality isn't.

Do you understand love you fucking mongoloid? Steve Irwins wife hasnt even dated since he died. You only get one love roastie whore

I don't think that is numerically true.

>womyn have gotten better at lying since the 90s and just straight-up subject the """man""" to open relationships from the beginning
>l-look guys, cheating's gone down!

>laws protecting men from thieving, greedy women amid the legalities of a divorce

AH HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

Because it was literally never, at any point, about any kind of "equality". From its beginning it has been a supremacy movement.

No it wasn't

>Previous generations were draconian christard prudes and moralists!
>Previous generations were cheating left, right and center, all the time!

I wish I knew which it was. People are now telling me it was both.

They were the first one after realizing what happens when you're the second one in an oscillating cycle

>nationhood, democracy, freedom
>"abstract concept conjured by beltway pansies"

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based

do you even know the purpose of society you dumbo?

babies>baby factories>baby factory providers

>why did they volunteer to held defend an allied country?

Are you literally just angry that whites died defending non-whites?

can't you just kill her with some of those explosives everyone smuggled back home from vietnam

just put one of those jumping betties right there on the lawn and then bam no more alimoney

based based holy shit based

This can be a good karma comedy style movie:
>Burger napalms some random chinks, he doesn't care who he hits with fiery death
>Gets shot down and captured, turns some of the guards have napalm'd relatives so they chew on that burger a little bit
>Returns home, takes huge money because "MUH POW", thinks his life will be awesome from now on
>Dear John
>Ending is him angrily fucking a chink whore only to get lynched by anti-war hippies when he leaves the brothel
There is a kind of lesson to learn here.

3/10
Mediocre opening and terrible finish.

>His daughter, Lorrie, was quoted as saying: “So much had happened—there was so much that my dad missed out on—and it took a while to let him back into our lives and accept his authority.”
He was fucking tortured by gooks in a jungle for 5 years, what the fuck is wrong with these people

it would be justifiable if he shoot up a school

why a school? The divorce court and his wife though, yes

This is just infuriating, jesus christ.
And to think very little has actually changed when it comes to divorce laws.

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fuck off this is what makes Yea Forums great

the sociopathic mother probably gave them lessons

based

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u know exactly what to do

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great movie, mate. tommy lee jones is perpetually based.