WATCHMEN 10TH ANNIVERSARY

Not even close.

Loved it back then, love it now. One of the few capeshit movies that's actually kino.

Reminder that the Watchmen: Midnight fanedit is the definitive way to watch this film.

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It is.
The problem is that capeshitters from Yea Forums that lurk this board don't know shit about movies, they don't understand the media and believe Watchmen was only a deconstruction of capeshit ignoring the idiologies and the politics of the comics that Snyder nailed, just as he deconstructed Capeshit movies and Action movies instead of capeshit Comics. every difference between the comic and the movie is there due the differences in the medium, the changes were needed to land the same meaning and hold the same significance. Watchmen is just fantastic.

>the blatantly obvious music cues

be honest, you cringed

Nope. Luft balloons is the shit

The only one I'm kind of torn on is the Hallelujah sex scene.

Elaborate? What changes are made?

>glorifies the violence
>makes rorchach into the hero
>makes veidt more definitively a villain
>akerman's bad akerting
>hallelujah

Snyder likes it because he likes the style and tone. He wouldn't be as big a fan if he actually understood what it was about.

how did it deconstruct action movies?

I'm sick of Laurie getting shit. The cast was perfect

Putting the blame on Dr. Manhattan is infinitely more plausible and believable than a giant space alien, therefore the film's ending is better than the graphic novel's. FACT

The ultimate edition is as close to comic as your going to get for this type of story. Plus the alien squid from the book was just stupid and wouldn’t have worked during the time the film was being made and released. Still stupid now, but enough retards now complain about dumb shit.

All the extra material from the Ultimate Cut plus clips from the Under the Hood mockumentary spliced in throughout the film, changed up some of the ill-fitting music cues, toned down the more over-the-top action, and adjusted the color grading so everything isn't all blue anymore. Also added the title cards and end quotes breaking it up into each "Chapter" of the comic which makes it feel paced more like a miniseries.

why the fuck would you pay for shit

>>glorifies the violence
Didn't happened. The action takes a bigger role since it's a movie and not a comic. Compare it with X-men or Batman begins where violence is clean, empty, and there's no weight. In this movie every punch produces pain and there's a focus on the effect of said violence. It's stylished, but the claim it "glorifies" violence is retarded, it SHOWS the violence that capeshit is afraid to show, even in movies like Blade
>>makes rorchach into the hero
Didn't happened
>>makes veidt more definitively a villain
No, but the actor was shit
>>akerman's bad akerting
What?
>>hallelujah
This is true.

But notice how you literally bitch about pretty irrelevant shit and don't care about the philosophy portrayed in the movie and comic. Typical capeshitter that repeat what he saw on a youtube video.

I liked JEH as Rorschach & wouldn't have changed the casting but to be honest they made him too pretty for Rorschach.
>book character is described as shockingly ugly, boxer nose, mud brown eyes
>movie version looks like bob dylan with red hair and literally cgi glowing blue eyes plus fine doll features
My question is .. why

Yes and no, it's better for the movie and works with the Actionmovie framework? sure, but in the comic the squid does make sense, the idea its developed during one year of re-reading and dissection of the comics. During the 80's that comicbook ending was a nice way to show that you can't escape the tropes of the medium, same happens with Manhattan in the movie, both are good endings that make sense given how you consume the media, one is consumed in one sitting and the squid makes no sense in a movie from the late 00's where no one is used to attomic era monsters movies but "blaming the hero" is a trope of action movies since the 80s, while the comic ending is perfect in the 80's where it's normal for the reader to be familiar with the outer limits and 50's Scifi. Both endings are great, but both depend of the medium to be good.

The only bad argument is thinking the russians would blame america, that comes from the mouth of morons that don't know shit of history, and ignore how blatant american interventionism or israeli falseflags have been during history

>makes veidt more definitively a villain
>No, but the actor was shit
Thankfully Jeremy Irons is going to redeem the character on film.

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Didn't knew hw was in, i guess i will pirate.

How about you pay $4.99 a month instead for starz and watch a good show like counterpart

What does this mean exactly incel?

Ha. Haha. Hahahahahaha

Fuck off shill

I thought it was okay when I first saw it. After I read the book I thought a lot less of it. It's still a fine movie on it's own though, 7/10. Anyone who thinks the movie ending is better however either didn't understand the book or didn't read it and probably just heard a spoiler that it involved a squid and just assumed it was shitty without seeing it for themselves.

random trivia, if you watch the extended or ultimate cut, their is a couple little winks to the squid, e.g. on veidt machines it has
>S.Q.U.I.D protocol
flashing on the screen, and the last bomb the NY one as its about to teleport looks like the squid tenticals and eye and all

I had read it many times before the movie came out, and I always thought the entire quid subplot with the island and everything would make it impossible to film, that more then anything, apparently snyder thought the same

I don't disagree really. I'm not mad about the squid, that's a change that I'm fine with.

Snyder didn't understand the source material. While his casting was mostly great he didn't understand the characters at all and he completely missed some of the most important underlying themes of the film.

I wonder how in detail about the squid the HBO version will go for the viewers who have only seen the movie since it is confirmed to be following comic canon.

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apparently something called squid fall is happening, no idea what that means, but they are 100% going with the squid

>Snyder didn't understand the source material.
You are the one who didn't understood the comic if you claim that.

I know you're just trying to bait me with such a dumb statement but I'll begin to indulge you anyway, because I do want to talk about what I dislike about the film.

Let's take the action as an example. In the comic everything other than Manhattan is just a person in a costume. They're well-trained in martial arts and great fighters, but only to the extent of being humanly possible and relatively realistic. In the film everybody is essentially Neo from the matrix doing flip kicks and crazy batman shit while walking around look they're the coolest motherfuckers on the planet.

In the comic, the moment when Adrian catches the bullet in his hands is fucking mind-blowing. Because he's just a human, but he's trained himself to become the utter peak of what a human can become in every way. When it happens in the film it's kind of impressive I guess, but I've just spent the last couple of hours watching night owl flipping around doing matrix-level shit in every fight, among others. This is just one of many many things that Snyder didn't understand from the comic.

>be me ten years ago
>skip the watchmen movie because im a teenager who loves the comic too much to want to ruin it
>blindly say the movie is shit because im a mooreshill and because uUuUUUgGGhHh snyder
>be me now
>alan moore is a megafag whose comix actively ruined the medium
>watchmen the comic is extremely flawed
>realize i don't give a fuck about muh subtext
>decide to watch the movie because i realized i actually dont hate a single thing of snyder's i've seen
>it's fucking kino

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>Watchmen was 10 years ago

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as always with this shitty critisim about the 'action' you ignore a lot and then even bring up the bullet catch, in the film he's wearing kevlar gloves, at least its in the realm of possibility, and yet you complain about kick flips, in the cmoic all you get are static images of them fucking shit up, the are barely hurt if at all and the end of the fights is them with a big smile on their faces and bloody fists with a bunch of goons scattered around, its just such a bizarre criticism, not him btw

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t. capeshitter that doesn't give a fuck about the politics and philosophy of the comic
Your complaints are retarted and extremely superficial, there's NOTHING to understand about nite owl not having powers, the problem with the shit you point out is that not only is unimportant for the story, but also for what the story represented and what the characters themselves mean. You are going NOT MUH and yet fail to see why was so important to have henry kissinger in the movie, something that Snyder had to fight for.

Some people bitch about the nips in Adrian suit and the designe of the suits in general

kek. sounds like pure shit

tbph, one thing that annoys me is the casting for adrian, he was a big guy in the book, but I like the costume

Name a more kino sequence in film history.

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Yes, it's not realistic that they'd come out of that fight the way they did. But they still come off as humans and not demi-god matrix fighters.

Oh you want to talk about the politics. How about how the movie created a wave of absolute morons who constantly spout "ozzy did nothing wrong" because they've only seen the film. The comic very specifically goes out of it's way to tell you that what Adrian did was a fucked up response that occurred due to the circumstances of his world driving him at least somewhat insane.

Or we could talk about the portrayal of Rorschach, a character he essential just made out to be a more brutal version of batman instead of what Rorschach really was in the comic, a literally insane homeless man that absolutely nobody liked.

It's a fanedit bro. What did you expect. Rule number one of Yea Forums: all fanedits are shit and anyone trying to sell you on a fanedit is the shitty editor himself.

This was the only good part of the film to be honest. It's quite sad that Manhattan on Mars didn't even end up coming close to being kino when it is quite possibly one of the best written chapters in the history of literature.

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not true, literally every fan-edit of the hobbit films are better then the actual films

The casting was bad. The costume was great, and in the same way the suits in the comics sound with what was used in capeshit comics, the suits in the movie look like what capeshit suits looked in movies during the 90's. The nips in the suit were such a great designe choice, Michael Wilkinson is really underrated as a costume designer

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Now don't be mean, Dan kinda likes him. Also X did nothing wrong is a meme you stupid dip

the opening credit sequence is hall-of-fame. it transcends the montage stereotype.

>How about how the movie created a wave of absolute morons who constantly spout "ozzy did nothing wrong" because they've only seen the film.
You are a retard for taking those posts seriously and judging the movie based on what other people may or not believe, guess what, if someone is utilitarian before watching the movie he is likely to agree with the utilitarian character.
>literally insane homeless man that absolutely nobody liked
Same as in the movie

>It's quite sad that Manhattan on Mars didn't even end up coming close to being kino when it is quite possibly one of the best written chapters in the history of literature.
Really? it was my favorite part, the music and the voiceacting is Kino IMO.

People unironically believed it because they removed the pirate story, which was a very important aspect of the source material.

the casting was great except for Adrian himself, and even he was good just physically didn't work, hes not someone who could believable destroy the comedian in a fight, and be the 'peak human'

Read it if you haven't, it's 10 million times better. Chapter 4.

but they didn't the black ship story is their and really it shouldn't be since it really fucks with the pacing

Rorschach, Manhattan, and Comedian's casting was all spot on.
Nite Owl was pretty good.
Silk Spectre and Ozy were shit.

It's only there in later releases and you are right, it does fuck with the pacing.

as always, as much as I like watchmen, the book is always better

That's only in the Ultimate Cut, the one no one watches.

I have, and yes it's better, but i'm saying that i liked the mars part of the movie regardless of the comic being better.
I was disapointed with the animated pirate story, it needed either a bigger budget or another art-style

yea I removed it and then added it after the credits as a single one broken story, I find it works much better that way, the bits with the news vendor and the kid just fades in and out when its suppose to cut to the pirate comic, personally I prefer it that way

I do

There's no way to integrate it to the movie, as always it's about the medium, there's no pace to fuck with on a book that was published during 14 months, but on a movie? There's no way to integrate it.

agreed thats why I did this

>As an adaption of [insert IP here] it is horrendously bad
Can you name even one single reason why I should ever give a fuck?

>come gather round people, wherever ye roam...
admit it, the music wa perfect here

>Ozy is shit
>Responsible for one of the best superhero endings made
Pick one

You could just go watch the Director's Cut instead of making a sloppy edit.

Well, when something that is a 10/10 when it comes to it's source material, you would hope that any adaption would be the same, or at least close. That's generally why you would care. There's no point in watching a disappointing 6/10 adaption when you can just read the 10/10 source material.

but then I wouldn't get the news vendor scenes, I like those scenes, and it adds to the finale since you feel something for them when they all die

>there is no point
wtf? every single adaptation ever is about 6/10 compares to the source material, might as well never adapt anything ever

>There's no point in watching a disappointing 6/10 adaption when you can just read the 10/10 source material.
Do you understand that paper and film are different mediums right?

That's not true. The Shawshank Redemption is far superior to it's source material. Hell, Stephen King himself says he prefers the film version of The Mist too.

Ok, so it's only worth watching adaptations of bad source material.

The news vendor scenes in the film are stripped down so much that they don't add anything to the narrative.

i think the what his issue is that the costumed niggers were shown as super human rather than just humans. Like how they were able to kick a guy and the guy literally flies 10ft, both owlman did this in the alleyway fight and then adrian did this to rorschach in the final confrontation. Felt kinda of silly since they were just supposed to be people in suits rather than captain america super soldiers

Do you consider the Lord of the Rings to be bad source material?

I just knew you were going to bring up King, I was going to mention the shining as an obvious exception

yes that was annoying, the arm breaks all that was just fine, but the kick a guy and he flies a few feet was irritating

>10 years ago

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yes they do, they show rorshach and his connection to the national inquiry, they show various characters and of course build on the whole knot top gang so they don't just come out of fucking no-where to kill nite-owl

about 6/10

>alan moore is a megafag whose comix actively ruined the medium
like any other medium-defining content, like halo or call of duty to vidya, dragonball to manga, or insert popular music band here, it's the people trying to out-do it after that are the problem. moore's bigger sin is perpetuating the hero hate from authors that followed

If Watchmen was written in the 2010s Ozymandias would have browsed Reddit, Yea Forums, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Chaturbate, etc. on a hundred different screens simultaneously rather than a hundred different television channels.

its set in the 80s you dumb fuck

The bit at the ending when they give Jon's "Nothing ever ends" line to Laurie still pisses me off every time I watch it.

dawn of the dead, zack snyder one
youtu.be/dTYNwwPQH4k

>the national inquiry,
*New Frontiersman

Fun fact: WB wanted the movie set in the 2000's. Snyder had to fight with the executives so it could be set in the 80's

The thing is even Moore hates this, the same with Frank Miller. Stuff like Watchmen and The Dark knight Returns were supposed to be very separate one-off stories that were different from the usual superhero stuff you'd get. But because of how wildly popular they became they influenced the industry to try to make almost every story like them.

It's the same reason Moore hates The Killing Joke, he thinks it's a depressing story that shouldn't have ever been part of Batman's continuity.

Doctor Manhattan, I'm New Frontiersman.

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good man, would've been fucking stupid otherwise

I imagine they would have tried to replace all the Cold War stuff with War on Terror shit.

moore hates everything he's ever done, literally everything, even MM

Yeah, I know that. Thats why I said "If Watchmen was written in the 2010s" you fucking retard.

Ozymandias would be a black guy, explaining why he picked an Egyptian motif for his superhero persona.

Even Lost Girls?

written in not set in, use your words

EVERYTHING

Alan Moore wrote it in the 80s and it is also set in the 1980s you troglodyte

stop trying to excuse yourself, accept that you wrote it wrong, you should've said,
>if this was set in 2010
you didn't get over it

Based lardass destroying world peace

Moore is the epitome of crochety old man, he just wants to be left alone, but please come by to visit and listen to him bitch about things. That being said, I don't think he hates his avatar press stuff, if only because he had complete and utter control.

goddammit, no, ozy is a big guy, for fucks sake, irons is a fantastic actor, but this is all wrong

this is what snyderfags actually believe

I did like it, but it's definitely not a movie to watch at cinema. I remember my showing and people there, they just didn't understand the movie. It's hard to blame them, they thought it was yet another silly superhero movie, bringing children with them and all.

Nah its pretty fucking shit as a movie too.

fuck you all I liked it, goddamn burger puritans, same people who complain about this complain about Manhattans dick

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fag

Snyder is a brainlet, BVS and Justice League proved that. He just don't get tone at all.

>t. Yea Forumsfag

It's not even about the scene being sexual, their whole arc kills the pace of the movie and that scene is just the cringe cherry on the bore cake.
Last time I watched Watchmen, I just skipped that part.

fag

>their arc kills the pace
their arc is thye pace, they are the movie

On the twentieth anniversary in what will feel like five years, it’ll be heralded as a cult genre classic.

The movie would have been much better if Philip Glass scored the whole thing. It’s still got a lot going for it despite its problems.

of course he does, he knows hes a no talent hack who just ripped everything off kurt vonnegut
he didnt even have enough respect to steal a bit then move on, he stole EVERYTHING good from sirens of titan - even the palace on titan

he has plenty of talent, read MM, he's just a self-hating narcissistic

that's not even the best montage using that song
>generation kill

youtube.com/watch?v=AwjqlpZvFC8

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>set in
yes you are retarded

I know this is revisionist bullshit because I've never seen the movie and "Ozy did nothing wrong" is still absolutely a possible conclusion you can draw from the comic and even the most likely one on first read.

Unironically this.

But that does sound cool too. Guess I'll see it in HBO watchmen

>The Killing Joke
>depressing
Isn't the whole plot of The Killing Joke how Gordon's resolve is strong enough that he can't be broken?

No, the protagonist of the Killing Joke is Joker, and the point is that he cannot be saved, refusing help and how Batman ends up fed up and kills him. Joker doesn't break Gordon but he breaks Batman.

>kills him
Implied at best.

No it isn't. There pirate story is a very explicitly direct parallel to Adrian. The pirate story is also very black and white in saying that the insanity caused by the main character's isolation caused him to greatly harm those he loved. It was his sole goal and the only thing he ever thought about, which drive him so insane that it caused him to brutalize them. In brutalizing them he never saved them from anything either.

He mostly hated what he did to Batgirl and the extremes he made the Joker go to. He also hates it because it inspired countless stories like it and played a hand in the death of the conventional optimistic and feel-good stories that superheros used to have written about them.

thanks Alan, and thanks for providence, now if you could please take MM back from the gayman that would be great thanks

Heavily implied I'd say but
>those 300 digits in a Snyder thread
I guess you're right, nevermind

I honestly don't think so because it's definitely more about Gordon than Batman and Gordon's biggest line is talking all about how their way works. Unless you want to believe Batman "fell" which is a dreadful way to look at it imo.

this is something thats been argued about for years, I don't think either of you will come to an understanding on this, imo the point is it could be either, but that doesn't matter Joker still broke him, and yes of course its Gordon's story

He didn't understand the source material, essentially because he's an idiot. So it ended up being a mess.

The visuals are great since he is, and always has been, an incredible visual director. The opening sequence for example is absolutely fantastic.

He loves comics, he's not a poser. He's a real fan. But he's got nothing between his ears.

your post is self-contradictory, reddit spacing faggot

this is what faggots with no argument or original thoughts say when confronted with the truth about snyderkino

everytime

the first time i watched it was on a projector in a friend's bedroom while i was robotripping for the first, last and only time ever, the entire experience made quite an impression, it was 2009 and he had torrented it, as the movie was ending the sun was just starting to come up, it was pretty sweet, looking back on the years that followed and the Great Deluge of comic book movies that have flooded mass-market consumer entertainment i have some reservations about the genre and it's propagation. They had all the time in the world to adapt these comics, tell these stories, connect with audiences, and in less than 20 years they have completely blown their wad, the saturation has drained all of the novelty and exceptionalism out of the experience, the abundance of superheroes has done a disservice to the industry that spawned the material in the first place, many artists use the medium to tell nuanced, personal, reflective, meditative stories, unfortunately it's the spectacular blockbusters that are the bread and butter of the film industry, the entire process has become a reflection of the dialogues in Chasing Amy, in which Joey Lauren Adams laments her struggle to succeed with heartfelt, emotional stories in an industry dominated by big tits, big guns, cornball one-liners. I never would have guessed, given that the criticisms were being spouted back then, that things would progress unfailingly to reinforce those very observations

thanks kevin

well yea

Watchmen still filtering 10 years later

All the moves that Nite-Owl did in the movie were performed by real stunt men. They're absolutely feats that can be accomplished by human beings. The "matrix" jumps and bone-breaking are doable by low-level MMA fighters, it's the cinematography that makes them appear superhuman - and that's the point, Snyder is expressing how these characters feel in their moments. Everyone complains that he makes Rorshach too badass but miss how Snyder kept his low height and adding awkward goofs like his flashlight flickering. You're retarded.

this, so much this

>literally insane homeless man

and yet Rorschach lives in an apartment in the comic. I wonder how many people who criticize Snyder for not sticking closer to the source haven't actually read the novel and just want to bandwagon on the Snyder-hate.

>pinnacle of the comic book genre
lol

That one sweet prison kick

>it's been 10 years
Fug, I feel so old.

Well, it is one of the best comic book adaptions.

As good as CBMs get. And I'm fairly certain that it would've flopped if anyone other than Snyder made it. And I fucking hate him too.

Gotta say I recently ran into an ozzy did nothing wrong and it just felt like he really didn’t get the whole story at all. Like he didn’t seem to understand the other characters at all. Somebody else I knew who had only seen the movie got into a huge argument with him about it so I don’t think it’s the movies fault but more normies gaining access to the material.

so you ahte him because?
thats nice, no-one cares, write a blog

I saw it at midnight with a bunch of friends who I never see anymore. My buddy freaked out with laughter when Bubastis appeared. He never read the comic.

gee people still misinterpret moores shit, even adaptations, and?

The pinnacle of shit is still shit.

It’s a good adaptation but still a lot worse than the source material. You lose a lot of details, and have extra action scenes which take away weight from certain moments. Hell there isn’t a huge fight finale in the first book Frodo just goes off on the boat while people all scramble in the woods. They needed a finale so they slipped boromir dying and the fight in at the end. However this takes from the theme of the book which is literally the fellowship of the ring, and it ends with the breaking of the false fellowship and the real one being forged by Sam and Frodo.

I agree with you entirely. The films don't really hold a candle to the source material but it's still one of the trilogies ever made in it's own right.

That being said, the changes to Boromir's death are honestly my favorite thing in the film. Hell, it's honestly my favorite part of Lord of the Rings and it resembles nothing even close to how it is written in the book.

Honestly, probably the best adaptation of the comic book you could hope to make. Most of the larger things they cut like the conversation between the two normal guys made sense as it didn't relate too much to the overall plot and would have been pretty lengthy. Changing the fake alien whatever at the end to some generic bomb that looked like what Dr. Manhattan would do was a good change. A giant alien would have looked too silly and it gave more of a reason for Manhattan to fuck off to space.

The only problems I have are some of soundtrack choices are a little on the nose and frequent. Sex scenes could be severely cut down. Also the scenes of the Watchmen looking "badass" with slow-mo and shit goes against the point of the book.

Other then that the movie was pretty great. The casting was either perfect (Jackie Earle Haley, Jeffery Dean Morgan etc) or plain bad (whoever played Night Owl II and Silk Specter II). Also visually it looks amazing.

The casting is a mixed bag, because it just felt like they focused more on having the actors look the part rather than actually be good at acting the part they were given. Comedian, Rorschach and Nite Owl were decent but everyone else is just meh

The fact that people can debate about this part of The Killing Joke is proof of how kino that book is because of its ambiguity and how you're unsure yourself of the story

Snyder is bad at conveying feelings. That shit looked fake because it looked staged and the slow mo doesn’t add anything to the scene except for regards like you to drool at some shitty action.

>tfw I realized the same actor that played the Comedian played Negan

Isn't Negan a very similar character? Never watched the Walking Dead

>snyder is bad at conveying feelings
no point in arguing with a brainlette

>Snyder is bad at conveying feelings
>Nite owls epic NOOOOOOOOOOO
pick one

>Snyder is bad at conveying feelings
U WOT MATE?

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And Superman's death is emotional as fuck

>regards like you
based mong

yes

fuckwit

but they fucked up on ozy, everyone else both physically resembles and acts like their moore counterpart except for ozy who acts like it but isn't the physical presence he should be, just look at him exercising during the interview in the comic, you understand he is the "ubermensch" in the film thats kinda lost, no matter how good ozys actor is, and he is good but you never feel intimidated like you and nite-owl rorschach etc. are suppose to in his presence

>the slow mo doesn’t add anything
It literally mimmicks how people read comics

100% this. You needed someone like Armie Hammer but you know, that could actually act.

yea I'm trying to come up with an actor who can you know act, but also fills the role, just can't place it right now, but i'm sure he exists

Link?

hopefully it will be meta following to the movies as well.

Like DCEU is Watchmen's film "rebirth", like Superman is new Doctor Manhattan type of figure and old Doctor Manhattan gave birth to Flash and Comedian gave birth to Batman.
Hypercrisis and shit.

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Yeah, Matthew Goode

It's a best adaptation you can do with the materiál condensing it into a 2hour movie

>Matthew Goode
just looked him up and nope

Yeah, but he also wrote one of most depressing "final story" of Superman (second to Superman's creator Jerry Siegel that wrote Superman 149 ofc)

Also Watchmen and Dark Knight Returns are nothing new really, just read original Action Comics and Superman comics, befor editors stepped in.

There are too many versions of this on Prime, I can't figure out which one to watch. One of them is like 4 hours long.

It strangely shits me off when Yea Forums tries to recast watchmen. LEAVE IT THE FUCK ALONE

Any one. Just settle for the 2 hour 15 min one or whatever it is, if you've never seen it before

Director’s Cut

the 3.5 hour version, director's cut
then read the graphic novel
then watch the 4 hr cut to really appreciate the attention to detail

noe THAT was a movie

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I loved it then and I loved it now. Sadly the last good thing Snyder ever made, but he put a lot of effort into it.

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kino
youtube.com/watch?v=y58CWuhfddM

Johnny Cash really made something here

There are several action scenes in the movie that completely miss the "these are regular people dressing up and playing superhero" mark. Only ozymandias should be doing some of the shit they're doing and even then the only truly impressive thing he did was catch a bullet. I guess you could count throwing the comedian through a window

I read comics at full speed.

Whatever flaws it has it's still better than anything the mouse shat out since then. It's risky and unwieldy whereas modern capeshit plays it safe always.

It's ... different, which tends to help and hinder the film simultaneously. A couple of great visuals and interesting scenes.

The movie's pacing comes to a crunching halt when Owl Man and S&M Fanservicegirl lose their mojo and spend half an hour sadly pondering around before getting it back, and the film never recovers. The ending with Dr Bluedong going crazy and teleporting to Mars could have been great, but feels like footage from a different movie at that point.

They said Watchmen was unfilmable. They were right.

If you're going to read the graphic novel then you should do it before you watch the film.

Even people who love the Watchmen movie aren't going to tell you it's better than the graphic novel. The graphic novel is the definition of a masterpiece and you only ruin it by watching the movie first.

Anyone care to explain this? I've seen the film and thought the montage was good, but it's just like any other good montage really. What's so good about this one in particular?

if ozy could do that and the comedian kicked his ass 20years ago, plus all this shit we saw them do in the book, plus all the rumors and news reports of them and their predecessors, finally including what we saw them do in the book, the least of them do, yes everything they do in the film is not only believable its what i'd expect of them

It's the pinnacle of show, don't tell

Good point, thanks man.

Have you even seen any of his movie?

It’s not unfilmable. It was filmed and it was great.

In the end , the studio did manage to fuck him in the ass after JL