What are some other historical situations that could work in a film like Death of Stalin?
What about the Last Years of Salazar?
>1968, Portugal >António de Oliveira Salazar has ruled the country for almost 40 years >Portugal struggling against rebellions in their colonies >Salazar is getting old, but doesn't seem to be on the verge to losing power >suddendly, falls from a chair (or in a bath) >cerebral hemorraghe >not in condition to rule >the President and his fellow ministers replace him >some reforms are made, as it is usual in a transition like this, some tension between the new Prime-Minister and the Regime hardliners >suddendly, Salazar gets better >ohshit.jpg >his collegues don't tell him he was removed from power >tell him to "rule in privacy" >still give him false papers to sign and make show meetings with him >eventually dies in 1970 >the regime falls four years later
Really dark, but the execution of the Romanovs. The actual killing was horribly botched, but to gruesome to be funny in anyway. But the shitshow after about how and where they should bury them, and how hard it turned out to be, is hilarious
Robert King
The 2016 US election.
Andrew Peterson
It was also justified. The Tsar and his families were criminals and traitors to their own people. I'm not a fan of the bolsheviks, but from their perspective it was necessary to eliminate the whole royal family to put and end to their reign once and for all. To make sure there will never be a Romanov in power again.
Nicholas Foster
not really because no one gives a fuck about portugal. same goes for spanish or italian dictatorships. there just wouldn't be enough interest and you would need someone that actually cares about it to write a script. death of stalin is one of the best dark comedies i have ever seen, but i doubt it would translate well other than doing one about hitler because there would be some interest. i also think the film ending with him killing himself while his generals are struggling to somehow fix the war could be used for a comedic effect in a variety of ways.
William Reed
there's a contoversial German comedy movie about Hitler from 2006 already btw
Mao's Great Leap Forward in 1960s China. It would never, ever, ever get made as Hollywood is too fearful of upsetting China, but let's take a moment to appreciate what would be Death of Stalin on an industrial scale.
>Mao comes to power >His great idea? Plant rice seeds twice as close as they were before >Crops will be twice as productive! >Also, kill sparrows because they eat rice shoots >Also, have peasants make steel in their backyards in their spare time >Fast forward one year >Overcrowded rice seedlings have not grown >Sparrows were the only natural predator of insect pests, which have now turned into a plague >Peasants know about as much about steelmaking as you know about Mandarin. Backyard steel is useless slag >30 million people starve, while the rest of the world is wrapped up in The Monkees >Bumper crops reported to Mao >Officials refuse to believe there is a famine >Go looking for these bumper crops, beat and execute starving peasants who must be hiding them somewhere
The most mind blowing part of this story is that China is still controlled by the same ironfisted communist party who let this happen. We buy billions of dollars worth of stuff from China every year and they buy billions of dollars of bonds from us. It is no different than if the Nazis had somehow survived World War 2 (let's imagine a peace was brokered in about 1943, where Germany got to keep some but not all of the lands it conquered) and the whole we-gassed-an-entire-race-out-of-existence thing was basically brushed over.
All I am asking is for people to think about this for a moment. Why do we in the West set our morality compass by not being Nazis, our socioeconomic compass by not being Soviets, and yet we are perfectly happy doing business with another ironfisted regime who essentially combine the worst aspects of both?
killing the kids and their dogs was taking it to far imo
Nicholas Gomez
the capture of adolf eichmann Netflix made a serious "remember the six gorillion" movie about it last year But it could really have been a dark comedy
Jacob Miller
>Why do we in the West set our morality compass by not being Nazis, our socioeconomic compass by not being Soviets, and yet we are perfectly happy doing business with another ironfisted regime who essentially combine the worst aspects of both? deep down we dont consider chinks human, and therefore a mass killing of them might be unplesant, but not a hurdle when it comes to trade
Aiden Hughes
>Why do we in the West set our morality compass by not being Nazis, our socioeconomic compass by not being Soviets, and yet we are perfectly happy doing business with another ironfisted regime who essentially combine the worst aspects of both?
Because the hope is that with economic incentive we can slowly persuade them to open up for real democracy and freedom. In many ways China has changed for the better compared to how it used to be run, but of course now that China's becoming a financial behemoth but still doesn't do anything about its human rights abuse it's a much trickier situation to the west due to the beneficial financial ties involved.
Carson Lee
Such a movie would probably need to be made in a light-hearted jest, just to stop the monster that could become the future of that country. I doubt it would do any more harm but serve more as a reminder later down the line.
Oliver Price
The dogs sure but not the kids. If you keep the kids, other countries or the whites would have more legetimizy and someone to put in power after taking down the bolsheviks
>It would never, ever, ever get made as Hollywood is too fearful of upsetting China
The larger issue is that it would have no market in the US due to completely Asian cast and subject matter that isn't any way compelling to most Americans, so it couldn't be a movie. You could maybe do this as a TV mini-series on HBO if you did it more as a morbid farce on a macro level, like it all happens to some remote hick village that tries to adhere to Mao's doctrine and it becomes a disaster on every level due incompetence, party corruption, stupidity and all the natural calamities intertwining. You'd probably still need couple of semi-big name Hollywood Asian stars in it to get it green lighted.
Juan Diaz
Salazar was based and Portugal wasn't a totalitarian state like the USSR was under Stalin, Salazar had no cult of personality and didn't kill people who annoyed him for no reason.
Asher Bell
That sounds more like a sitcom.
Thomas Kelly
>Stalin and Tito: jock chads >Trotsky: neurotic jew aka a woody allen film character >Hitler: omega male/incel >Freud: sleazy pervert Yeah, that would be great.
Asher James
>The most mind blowing part of this story is that China is still controlled by the same ironfisted communist party who let this happen. china realized that if they want to stay relevant they had to incorporate capitalism into their system, that is why china is thriving while the soviet block fell apart and north korea is a stone age communism state.
Jeremiah Foster
i'm from vienna and that would be great material since viennese people are pretty morbid.
Ryan Diaz
>viennese people are pretty morbid
I've heard that before. Something about people from Vienna having a special kind of relationship to death. Where does that come from?
Henry Williams
> so no one told you live was gonna be this way
Jason Martin
They‘re all closet homos and borderline suicidal
Chase Diaz
You want a white lead? Put there some dude from the US who was into Communism before the goverment panic and all the hippies operation.
He goes to China because he wants to become part of the glorious revolution of chairman Mao. You tell the story from the POV of this dude who can be the most handsome WASP actor so burgers will go to the kino to watch it. You can also force a side love story between him and a chinese qt3.14
Robert Harris
>All I am asking is for people to think about this for a moment. Why do we in the West set our morality compass by not being Nazis, our socioeconomic compass by not being Soviets, and yet we are perfectly happy doing business with another ironfisted regime who essentially combine the worst aspects of both?
Because Hollywood is owned by the jews, and they only care to remind you how they were the victims.
Carter Thompson
Last time i was in Vienna i was arrested for carrying an illegal weapon. 20 minutes later i was released, they just took it and let me go. At home i would have gone straight to jail for that. Afterwards i took the subway to the place i was staying in, an old man in an expensive looking suit entered the wagon, tipped his hat and said "good evening" everyone inside.
Most Austrian thing i've ever seen in my life
Jeremiah King
>Stalin >chad
Logan Barnes
>Dumbass son brags around town (Buenos Aires) about his Dad being a top shop nazi >Mossad get wind and abduct his from his bus stop and drug him for the flight back to Israel > Drinks Jewish wine and eats bread and cheese for his last meal b4 hanged.
Doesn't seem that funny
Owen Adams
lol fuck off
Ryan Collins
seething tankie
Ayden Perez
>wwn get a Thick Of It Brexit Special with the tories all going fucking apeshit at eachother
Owen Miller
seething 4chin pass slave
Zachary Fisher
>implying he wouldnt be drowning in pussy in these days
I'd always love to see a Stamford Bridge/Harold Godwinson/Harald Hardrada/William The Bastard show or movie. Could be funny to do it like an Iannucci story as Godwinson is desperately scrambling to respond to the invading vikings and then the invading normans and shit.
>Sic semper tyrannis And you call yourself patriot?
Parker Garcia
Thats a touched up photo, he had scarring from measles/chickenpox (can't remember which), had a fucked up leg and was a manlet.
Jacob Cook
Americans don't have a habit of murdering the family of ousted leaders. There's no need since we don't give a shit about inheritance rules because we're a goddamn democracy.
And situation that involves shooting little girls in the face is probably not REALLY justified.
He was a legit terrorist/revolutionary during the pre-WWI years, the real deal, unlike betas Lenin and Trotsky.
Alexander Hall
True. I remember hearing about him robbing banks/trains to fund thei part of the revolution.
Lincoln Powell
You can't rule a nation of wifebeating drunkards without putting some families to the wall first.
Bentley Ramirez
>not a comme, but they were right to kill the kids >smuganimeface4689.jpg
Christian Price
>justified you mean pragmatic
Austin Morales
>Hussain's entire family killed >Osama's entire family killed >Qaddafis entire family killed ???
Samuel Jackson
Americans used the rebels as a proxy, which is ironic seeing how they were used as a proxy by the Israelis. Osama's family is completely engaged in terrorism. Hussain's family were all involved in his crimes. Ghaddafi is the only one who really didn't deserve his fate.
Noah Barnes
>Hussain's entire family killed by bombs >Osama's entire family killed no they fucking aren't. There are Bin Ladens doing business in the US right now. >Qaddafis entire family killed by rebels
We'll let your family get fucked up. We just won't take them into a basement and shoot them in the face about it.
It was 1919. The civil war was not yet won, the revolution wasn't finished. There were still parts of the white armies resisting. The Tsar built up a very intense personal cult around himself and his family. It was pure pragmatism, they wanted to exterminate his bloodline to make sure they would never rise to power or make any problems again. Or be used by the whites to destabilize the young Soviet union. It wasn't pretty, but it was not unjustified.
Evan Butler
A new season of that show set in the post snap election era Tory party would be one of the most hilarious things to watch
Honestly giving the whole Russian Revolution the Death of Stalin style comedy treatment would be hilarious.
Jonathan Martinez
LOL
Your country basically has a terrorist group branded as an "Intelligence Agency" that has a long ass record of shaddy murders and international intervention.
do you have any idea what kind of human scum they were? look up his fucking sons. you can't get more vile without becoming a living comicbook villain. just like ghaddafi's family, they were pure evil. slavedrivers, rapists, thieves and murderers.
Carson Parker
High ups in the Bosleviks all thought Stalin was a bit of a simpleton, since he never spoke/debated in Party meetings and did everything asked of him without question.
But he managed to turn his general secretory job (not a very powerful position when he was given it), into the most powerful job someone could have in USSR.
Jaxon Phillips
It was very machiavellian but also the logical thing to do. The kids were claimants to the throne and the support for them could unite the opposition
The user is right, Saddam had no WMDs and the Bush admin used fabricated evidence. Ghaddafi also had removed his WMD's and was cooperating with the US. I wonder who could be behind this post.
Also the cultural revolution when China collapsed into a total state of anarchy because Mao didn't want to share power, it was basically another civil war
Camden Cooper
Who were US allies for a long time untill both GWB and Hillary Clinton needed them no more.
Gadaffi was the friend of the West in Africa and Saddam was friends with Donald Rumsfeld long before the Iraq war.
As a result of these policies of supporting and taking down dictators the US has destroyed any kind of social peace in those countries letting the terrorist groups and mafias take over. Libya is now a slave market and Iraq has become the second Vietnam for the US. Your foreing affairs policies can't be more stupid.
>A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm (commonly known as the "Clean Break" report) is a policy document that was prepared in 1996 by a study group led by Richard Perle for Benjamin Netanyahu, the then Prime Minister of Israel.[1] The report explained a new approach to solving Israel's security problems in the Middle East with an emphasis on "Western values." It has since been criticized for advocating an aggressive new policy including the removal of Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq and the containment of Syria by engaging in proxy warfare and highlighting its possession of "weapons of mass destruction". Certain parts of the policies set forth in the paper were rejected by Netanyahu.[2][3]
>In the days after September 11, Mr Rumsfeld and his deputy, Paul Wolfowitz, mounted an attempt to include Iraq in the war against terror. When the established agencies came up with nothing concrete to link Iraq and al-Qaida, the OSP was given the task of looking more carefully.
>"None of the Israelis who came were cleared into the Pentagon through normal channels," said one source familiar with the visits. Instead, they were waved in on Mr Feith's authority without having to fill in the usual forms.
>The exchange of information continued a long-standing relationship Mr Feith and other Washington neo-conservatives had with Israel's Likud party.
>The Israeli influence was revealed most clearly by a story floated by unnamed senior US officials in the American press, suggesting the reason that no banned weapons had been found in Iraq was that they had been smuggled into Syria. Intelligence sources say that the story came from the office of the Israeli prime minister.
stalin was married two or three times iirc and constantly banged chicks while in exile in siberia, some of them were upperclass. source: Deutscher's Stalin: a political biography
Levi Fisher
You just replaced a tyrant that barely killed anybody with a brutal dictatorship that killed millions.
Jaxon Bell
>Hitler: omega male/incel >Hitler was in his artistic years c'mon now.
Sebastian Carter
>Your country basically has a terrorist group branded as an "Intelligence Agency" that has a long ass record of shaddy murders and international intervention. so does everyone else m8.
Ryder Ramirez
I don't know what it is, but I find the idea of a bunch of high minded bohemian faggots getting upstaged by a strongman with something to prove incredibly gratifying
Samuel Ward
>I'm not a fan of the bolsheviks, but from their perspective it was necessary to eliminate the whole royal family to put and end to their reign once and for all It wasn't necessary and Lenin had to assure his mother that he didn't have the royal family killed. And how were they criminals and traitors?
Alexander Howard
it doesn't matter how artsy you are if you're a sperg
Bentley Long
Bolsheviks are bigger traitors than Nicky could ever be. They were literally foreign-backed agents...
Jose Thomas
>stalin >chad >5'4" when will manlets learn?
Daniel Reed
Nigger, are you fucking retarded? Have you seen what we did to Libya? We got Qaddafi out and now there's fucking slave markets. Shit, we directly funded ISIS, and the Mujahedeen, which turned into Al Qaeda. Miss me with that "we dindu nuffin cause we're a democracy"shit you fuckin retard.
Camden Perry
Franco could work >last Facist dictator >old as shit >right wing factions vervous about who will take over >groomed Prince planning to bring democracy >that failed coup
> Have you seen what we did to Libya? A: "we" didn't do shit. We paid people to do shit. B: Have you seen what Libya did to Libya? > We got Qaddafi out and now there's fucking slave markets. guess they needed better bootstraps. > Shit, we directly funded ISIS, and the Mujahedeen, which turned into Al Qaeda. Yeah. Still not sure where you're having a problem. We're a white western society. We will fucking decimate some sand niggers easy peasy ALL DAY. That doesn't mean we don't have "morals" when it comes to killing the families of our political elite. We honor OUR norms. And OUR norms are that we don't execute political dissidents and families of former leaders. We just destroy their lives and reputations and stuff. >Miss me with that "we dindu nuffin cause we're a democracy"shit you fuckin retard. You should use your freedom to shoot yourself in the brain you gook nigger. Cry more bb.
Jace White
This user has the right train of thought. Look at the whole thing with Unit 731's crimes against "humanity." Completely forgiven in exchange for "keeping up" with whatever Soviet human experimentation was definitely maybe happening in Siberia. Nazi doctors were specifically excluded from "Paperclip," their contributions to the war effort were seen as beyond redeemable. Despite being practically identical in terms of the depravity and utter disregard for human dignity, the Japanese doctors were given a pass. They only killed Chinese and Russians, after all.
Daniel Roberts
I'm hoping Netanyahu might spill the beans the mechanisms that made all that possible in the corruption trial.
Elijah Peterson
>no ones gives a fuck about Portugual, Spain and Italy >everyone loves rome kino
What people cant stand is looking at ugly hegemonic countries like the US.
Owen Davis
Less funny than Allende and Pinochet.
Evan Green
We gave them close air support that undoubtedly tipped the scales against Qaddafi, so don't give me that "we paid people to do shit." And even then, we have no fucking business in toppling legitimate nations, you absolute fucking neocon boomer twat. Drop the corny "hahaha yeah bro we fucked up some dune coons and it's all gucci" shit. We sacrificed our own people for fucking nothing with every country in the middle east we got involved in. But yeah, it's based and epic when we slaughter some goat farmer for the opium fields behind his house that we're defending for the Sackler family. And newsflash fuckhead, our norms were free white men of good standing, but what the fuck happened to that? Our only norms are eagerness to send The Israeli Colonial Armed Forces to whatever country Israel needs opium and oil from, and a degenerate pop culture. How about you democratically suck start a shotgun you fucking boomer.
Aaron Harris
tldr. We treat The Other like dogshit. That isn't the point. If you don't understand the difference between "fucking up a bunch of gooks" and "executing the family of your former leaders" you should literally kill yourself to death.
Colton Hill
and I love all this impotent whataboutism just to defend Russia. You're well trained, you degenerate cuck.
>An argument has broken out about paying a fair share of the utilities. Stalin is threatening to break everyone's legs if they don't pay up, Freud keeps asking him what he's *really* angry about. Trotsky just keeps trying to tell everyone to calm down but is ignored. Eventually Tito questions why the utility bill is so high in the first place and suggests that whoever has been responsible for the most of it should pay more. They all look at the bill and see that the gas bill is through the roof. Hitler immediately bolts out the door to avoid paying. (Laugh track leads into the title card) >Odd Roommates: episode one. Heil Honey, I'm home
