WHAT

That doesn't make any sense.

why isnt he called Captain Marvel, I mean thats who he is.

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FOOTLOOSE AND HASSELHOFF HAHA

because marvel refuses to let it go

not only was that not the point of my post, but also these were fads that had already passed before out of touch boomers even started shooting this cringe movie

that actually makes sense though since that was the popular shit when Peter Quill left Earth, and are his fond memories of his home planet

lolwut Marvel never owned Captain Marvel, its a character owned by DC

kys

it is a long story that spans almost a century

your thinking of Captain America not Captain Marvel who is a DC character.

>it is a long story that spans almost a century
can I get a quick rundown?

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Of course not. You're IQ is insufficient.

He's DC tho

The true Captain Marvel was killed by a DC lawsuit, this is only his corpse on strings like a puppet.

this

1938 Superman is created
1939 Captain Marvel is created
Captain Marvel reaches greater popularity than Superman
DC sues Fawcett
Fawcett can no longer publish Captain Marvel
1960 something Marvel realizes there's no current copyright on the name
Marvel starts publishing their own character with the name Captain Marvel
1970 something DC buys a bunch of smaller superhero publishers and gains the rights to the character of Captain Marvel (original)
DC sues Marvel
Marvel wins
DC owns a character but can't use the name
They call him Shazam
That's everything you need to know. Marvelman is a whole other can of worms that's worth looking into as well though.

When DC licensed him in the 70s, they hired the same artist that co-created him and made all the main golden age comics, and made an homage to the writer creator in the very first issue

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>Captain Detective Comics

Shazam is DC so is Captain Marvel which is what Shazam is...

It doesnt even make sense his name is Shazam, thats not how it was in the comic ever at least all the originals I read, that was part of the whole gimmick.

See this is how it works. If he says Shazam while he is in Captain Marvel mode, he reverts to his normal human form. Hence it makes no sense his name is Shazam, but no big deal I can let that slide.... just throwin that out there lore wise.

you forgot to mention Marvel threatened to sue a small company that started publishing a Captain Marvel xharacter before Marvel even came up with their Captain Marvel.

>DC sues Marvel
>Marvel wins
user you seem very well versed on this. Could you expand on this section plz? Interested how DC owns the character and yet Marvel won a lawsuit that they cant use that name?

Links appreciated if its too long to type out.

Because of copyrights. Marvel owned the copyright to the NAME Captain Marvel. It had been open for grabs and they got it. DC bought the rights to the original character but by that point the COPYRIGHT TO THE NAME was in Marvel's possession so there was nothing they could do about it.
>Link appreciated
Literally wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Marvel_(DC_Comics)

Marvel copyrighted the character a few years prior. The original Captain Marvel copyright had expired because the company shut down a decade earlier. DC licensed him in the early 70s.

I just said Marvelman is a whole other can of worms, I didn't forget shit.
Unless there's something else I didn't even know about.

It's not Marvelman

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> The original Captain Marvel copyright had expired because the company shut down a decade earlier.
I mostly specialize in bird law but im going deep into this, but being that it lapsed then doesnt it go into fair use? Did the court case say that they could copyright something that was in the public domain? I wasnt aware that was possible?

Im going to have to read up on this big time, very interesting stuff.

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What the hell is that dude doing?

The original Captain Marvel comics ARE in the public domain. The name was copyrighted by Marvel however in relation to their own, new, original character. It was the same name but it had no relation to the original content. The original Captain Marvel is a kid who gets superpowers from a wizard. Marvel's Captain Marvel was an alien literally called Mar-Vell and actually having the rank of captain in the military. Marvel didn't copyright something that was in the public domain per se, they just copyrighted something that shared a name with something in the public domain, so when DC wanted to make more Captain Marvel they couldn't use that name.

>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Marvel_(DC_Comics)
not much on the lawsuit there, which I understand its wikipedia hope someday i do get the chance to learn more about this case.

So is the Marvel character called Captain Marvell under copyright and if they dont own the copyright to Captain Marvel but are just using the name, is the character from the current movie fair use under the law? Asking for a bird I know.

They can use the name in the comics. Just not as the title.

wait a sec arent Captain Marvel and Marvell 2 diff characters? Are you saying that Marvel copyrighted Captain Marvel using Marvell?

>hope someday i do get the chance to learn more
Have you considered using Google? It's kind of a new thing but it can get you results like you wouldn't believe.
>called Captain Marvell
Ohnonoonno, the comic is still called Captain Marvel. Mar-Vell is the name of the character in the Kree language, but people on earth just went on to call him Marvel, hence the title.
The title has been passed on to various other people like his kids, a black woman, and finally Carol Danvers, who is the HERo of the feminist piece of shit propaganda piece that's coming out this week.
Marvel owns the right to the name Captain Marvel. The original Fawcett character's original adventures are in the public domain. The new comics made by DC featuring Captain Marvel under the name Shazam or Captain Thunder or whatever they've used over the years are owned by DC.
Note that they can still call him Captain Marvel within the stories so long as the name does not appear in any of the titles of their comics.

Yes! That is what I am saying. Pictured here is Mar-Vell. Notice how he does not look like the person in the OP.

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Check these: Shazam!

splittan

>The original Captain Marvel comics ARE in the public domain.
Is there an archive of them somewhere on the Interbuttz? I need to study them.

readcomiconline.to/Comic/Captain-Marvel-Adventures

Holy shit, thank you.

>Holy shit
Is this like your first day on the internet or something?

And here's the first story, from Whiz Comics:
readcomiconline.to/Comic/WHIZ-Comics/Issue-2?id=45031&readType=1

U knu about thing before me. Here trophy. Clap

No I mean why are you acting like it's somehow miraculous that you can obtain things online for free with little effort?

>Have you considered using Google?
i dont trust it so i dont use it, do you? is it really reliable?

>The title has been passed on to various other people like his kids, a black woman, and finally Carol Danvers
Interesting, so sort of like Thors hammer it can be passed on?

>Note that they can still call him Captain Marvel within the stories so long as the name does not appear in any of the titles of their comics.
hmmm but you cant copyright a title, I think that is trademark law. So I would think if had access to the legal docs, the reason they cant use that title, is because Marvel itself is trademarked as a comic producer and would cause confusion if used in the title of a comic by another producer. Thoughts? Keep in mind I am not a law expert per se, or lawyer offering no legal advice, I am merely a student of Bird Law.

> is because Marvel itself is trademarked as a comic producer and would cause confusion if used in the title of a comic by another producer
That was probably why they won.

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That is what Im thinking, hence it can be used in the comic, but not as a title which is all trademark law bs.

Gotta wonder though with that being the case.... will we see in the followup shazam movie since this is more of an origin story, the use of captain marvel in relation to the characters title since technically he was never called "Shazam".

I had not realized that someone had scanned every issue of Whiz Comics and Captain Marvel and made them available in a well-organized archive.
I'm used to getting my animu and porn for free online but I was not yet aware that it extended to >60-year-old comic books.
I bow before your superior knowledge.
However I don't know how I was supposed to know that before I knew it.

You're in a thread about a superhero movie so I assume you're from Yea Forums and everyone on Yea Forums knows about it since it's how they read comics if they read them at all.
Ergo you must've known as well. But you didn't. Which leads me to confusion and anger and resentment.

What's funny is that if the character is called Shazam he can't say his own name without switching out of his superpowered form.

>What's funny is that if the character is called Shazam he can't say his own name without switching out of his superpowered form.
thats why I wonder if like what were saying that name cant be used in the title if its used in the movie? I dont know, but on the other hand I dont get how he could be a "captain" either since hes a kid, or maybe thats the point its a disguise so the name kinda works?

Im interested to see where it goes either way.

Ah, there's your problem. I'm not from Yea Forums. I seldom visit there. I'm just a fan of certain superheroes, like Doctor Strange and the original Captain Marvel.

also not from Yea Forums but huge Levi fan, your under estimating the appeal Shazam may be having on the mainstream. Wonder if that will translate though at the box office into dollars.

When the kid called him Captain Sparklefingers I was expecting he'd say "Captain Mar-" and then get cut off.

Because zoomers actually think dabbing is cool

>if they dont own the copyright to Captain Marvel but are just using the name, is the character from the current movie fair use under the law?
I would assume the character is fair use as long as you aren't using the specific version used in the movie I.e. a Captain Marvel with padded muscles whom enjoys flossing