Where do we go from here? Does anybody even give a shit anymore?

>Begins with Obi Wan waking up in the middle of the Clone Wars, just before the start of ROTS
>"Thank fuck, the sequels are just a dream!" Obi Wan is overjoyed
>proceeds to give us the much anticipated story about "that business on Cato Nemoidia" that "doesn't count"

>Star Wars is dead.
The American culture is so dead it can't even maintain its flagship. The spirit of heroism is so antithetical to homosexuality and equality that they repelled one another, despite their success alone.

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it'll just be a standalone movie with the same characters. Nothing has to make sense anymore.
>inb4 but star wars never made sense
It was better than what we have now, and in theory newer movies should be IMPROVING not relying on "it always sucked" as an excuse to make it worse.

Old Star Wars movies made sense because of the underlying Jungian model.
>Family
>Tyranny
>Friendship and loyalty
>Patience and learning
>History
>Good vs Evil, with Good winning eventually
There is none of that in the new trilogy. I wonder if it is intentional, or if Hollywood is full of psychopatic lizards with no genetic lineage to humans.

Not really, force awakens was already pushing it and TLJ pretty much sealed the deal. It's whatever, no one should have expected much from Disney anyhow.

>I wonder if it is intentional

These people know exactly what they're doing and sincerely believe that deconstructing and subverting everything in their path Is A Good Thing. They honestly believe that they're helping things. With that in mind, recall:

>Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victim may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated, but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." t. CS Lewis

>it set up an entire universe of possibilities.

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They will if Lucas comes back.

>sincerely believe that deconstructing and subverting everything in their path Is A Good Thing.
I don't think so.
youtube.com/watch?v=_gU0LHP52TE

But the question remains; why?

lol pretty good bait bro

>The middle act is the most important act of a three act story. It's supposed to tie the beginning and end together

not to mention hook the audience to watch how the story ends. tlj not only robbed IX of any hook, it ended like a finale with that dumbass broomboi coda. who the hell ends a middle movie like that?

Like what's the only possible resolution?
>And then Lando came in with ships, people, and resources and challenged the First Order and Rey beat Kylo Ren for the third time, and Finn beat Phasma for the third time. The End

wow, stunning.

Deliberately tank IX and remove everything ST related from canon. Solo had focus on the fucking dice, gone. Any comic set after VI, gone

I really want Johnson to get a trilogy and i desperately want Brie Larson to be the main star

Imagine the memes

>Where’s the Ep IX trailer? I want an Episode IX trailer!

You’ll get nothing and like it!

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It’s why I sincerely say it’s a worse movie than AoTC. Regardless of the many issues that movie has, there was at least an inherent reason to see the conclusion, even if it was just to get it over with.
Episode 9 has to both invent a reason to actually see the fucking thing, come up with a way to connect it, then actually make it good enough to be worth watching.

im only interested to see if based JJ can unfuck everything Ruin Johnson did... probably not, but its possible

>I wonder if it is intentional, or if Hollywood is full of psychopatic lizards with no genetic lineage to humans
I think it's just that they're nihilistic, moral relativist, and increasingly insulated from the real world. Perhaps more enlightening than the Jung model is the modern moral foundations theory.

In the Disney Star Wars movies, care/harm is the only moral question portrayed with any degree of consistency. The First Order are bad because they want to harm the good guys. Also they are angry a lot and use Nazi-like imagery. That's basically it. TLJ does try to deal with loyalty, betrayal, tradition, and authority but it's all laughably shallow and inconsistent.

This tells me the new Star Wars creators just don't have any firm concept of morality beyond harm. They don't understand Tyranny. They don't understand fairness, authority, or tradition. They certainly do not value beauty or purity.

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In TLJ the Resistance authoritarian regime

right, but then the authoritarianism leads to catastrophe but it's unclear whether this was an intended part of the message or not because the story is so incompetently assembled.

Capeshit has replace SW.

The Last Jedi felt like the opening pilot to an ongoing series in which the resistance fights the evil first order every week

>place custom "emotional response" here
>there are still people who didn't realize this is either an ironic post or an NPC typo

in my head rey takes kylo's hand at the end of 2 and they totally bang hardcore, then go on to start a whole new autocratic empire against both the first order and the rebellion

My gut feeling is that Rian is too tone deaf to have done so deliberately

>AoTC
It was kino you dickhead

>watching Star Wars after the nonsense of The Phantom Menace
Get fucked

Reylo fans get the gas chamber. Trump is just the beginning

>The spirit of heroism is so antithetical to homosexuality
This is bullshit

>Where do we go from here?
More propaganda. If you expect anything else, you are just mentally cucked.

It was shit, you contrarian faggot.
NuWars being worse doesn’t change that.

>10 years later...
That is the only way i can see IX starting. Just have a text crawl explaining what took place after and spend some time setting up something interesting. the only way to make IX is to distance itself from VIII

Nobody here cares about sw anymore.

What was the plot again?

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ding ding ding
I'm 82% certain they'll time jump, because rian left no reasonable way out of the fucking dumpster inferno he created
>hurr the resistance now has 2 people left

I hate there is even a chance they will hit over a 100 million. What are people doing going out to the theater for this trite?

Even if you are trolling how can you type something like this?
Respect yourself.

jedi bad
star wars bad
fat asian chick ruins everything, dooms the remainder of the resistance out of selfish obsession with the token jigaboo
plot holes everywhere
reee russian bots tanking the reviews

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Star Wars has been completely debased. The prequels took all magic and wonder out of the universe. The sequels took all character and personality out of the universe. All you're left with is an echo of an echo. There is nothing left to be said in a Star Wars movie, nothing left to feel, nothing left to see. Rian's movie was perfect in a way, it made the death of the franchise absolute and complete.

but that sounds like kino?

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I actually feel like Rian intentionally bombed the movie
He seems like the kind of nerd that would do that, play the long con and take the one chance of a lifetime to stick it to corporate America and intentionally create a massive turd but never admit it just to see the company struggle
Of course any inkling of admitting to that would have him Accidentally Suicide’d, but I’m starting to believe that’s really the case, that he actually is laughing his ass off at how he fucked over Disney itself

I won't be paying to see it.
t. 28 year old who grew up on star wars

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t. Rlm YouTube section

I'd believe it
I don't understand how you can accidentally make a movie this laughably awful

You are mentally ill, back to Yea Forums with the other trannies for you.

This. Star Wars is fucking over.

Would also give then an excuse to write out Leia. Have someone say "If only Leia lived to see this" and don't linger on it too long.
Or have another old woman play her. not like the fictional world of SW needs to change anything because an actor died.

The way he talks in some of the behind the scenes stuff made me think that too. Where he’s saying ‘oh not Star Wars, that will never end, ahahaha!’
It’s just so snide and feels like he’s saying it ironically or like one of those art kids from art class. I can’t verbalize it well I guess but I just absolutely know there are artsy types out there who would fucking LOVE to burn down something like Star Wars just to get a laugh if they had the chance. Power to em I say

If one bad movie is enough to make you hate all of Star Wars, you were never a fan to begin with.

>not using all the unused the footage JJ filmed for TFA and then cut because he didn't like politics
Gee, it's like you don't even want to capitalise on Fisher's death

>There's nowhere left to go
Nah
>Rey learns to send her concious to her past self, basically time travelling
>Goes back to the beginning of the trilogy
>she goes to Luke's planet, slap him to make him recover his balls
>Luke joins the rebels, I mean, the Resistance
>Both tell them about the Nu-Death Star planet and good guys bombard the planet
>next half of the movie is to chase and kill Nu-Emperor and Gaylo Ren

I can't think of anything else

They should just hire Jackie Chan to play Leia.

Did anybody else notice how everybody in The Last Jedi switches from saying "residence" to saying "rebels" halfway through the film? It's really bizarre.

Based

Bullshit.

If a person eats a bad meal at a restaurant they will be hesitant to eat there again.

And this wasn’t just one bad film, TFA sucks too. And so do Rebels and Resistance. As well as all the Disney EU content.

But I don't hate all of SW. The original trilogy is still there and mostly good. Shame we still don't have official unaltered remasters.

>does anyone care
nobody cares about the new characters. they are soulless bugself-inserts

Rebels had just as much good/bullshit ratio as TCW did. Resistance I haven’t seen yet. TFA only started getting really shit on after TLJ came out.

Rebels is garbage.

>Place custom “emotional response” here.
What

In talking about the people that are throwing it out altogether in some pissbaby rage fit.

It’s more like a restaurant has a wide variety of items on their menu and you try the newest one. It’s not good. But that doesn’t make the others bad and it shouldn’t taint your appreciation of the others.

So is a lot of TCW. It’s a kids show. Rebels had a few really good episodes.

My parents even didn't give a fuck and saw Jumanji 2 when there was a fucking Star Wars movie in theaters. It's lost all normalfag appeal.

This is damage control.

Not only did we get two bad movies, two bad tv shows, we also got a PR campaign that attacked the fans for over a year.

No, it really didn’t. That’s why it was canceled a year before it’s originally intended 5 year run.

I wonder if James Cameron likes TLJ.

He didn't seem too impressed with TFA:

youtube.com/watch?v=fJKtPJk3b2M

Nazis exiled in the argentinian mountains start fighting extremist republicans, rejected by the own republic.
An orphan girl gets embroiled in a family feud of psionic monks.
When the nazis wiped almost all of these extremists, this orphan girl is offered co-regency of the know galaxy, and rejects it.

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So why did KK approve it?

>you're scum
>"rebel scum."
This didn't bother me all that much in theaters, but now that I'm actually thinking about it, thats fucking terrible script writing. They're not rebels.

Lmao I sadly can’t tell if this is a troll or somebody I actually getting paid to shill as if anyone here is going to change their mind because of a fucking Yea Forums comment;

I'll bet you five bucks you slice into the woods.

I'm pretty sure that's an actual thing, one of those new CGI shows Disney is putting out for the kiddies.

Bullshit.

There are three people who are most responsible for The Last Jedi.

Johnson, Kennedy and Bob Iger. Iger stated he had seen TLJ 7 times before it’s release. This movie did exactly what Disney wanted it to. It pushed their agenda, courted a new fanbase, and divorced itself from the original fans.

And all the crying and complaining done about this movie was just used as part of Disney’s outrage / antagonistic marketing.

All of the hundreds, yes hundreds, of attack the fans articles, all of which were conveniently posted here, were just designed to further this agenda.

Disney will double down hard on everything old fans hated in TLJ.

there are cringe lines elevated by great delivery. this was a cringe line made even more cringe by cringetastic delivery.

No. I'm one of the biggest Star Wars fans. After The Force Awakens, even though it was a rehash, I was still invested in the story. I still wanted questions answered. But TLJ was just such a dumpster fire that I literally don't even care about reading leaks. It's dead, bury it.

Disney can still save Star Wars and make billions if they just make movies set between ROTJ and TFA. Disney contact me I got this for you and only require a couple hundred thousand

Snoke, Kylo, Holdo, and Finn all refer to them as rebels in the second half of the film. Its really strange.

Underestimating the power of JJ Abrams. He may be hackish but the guy was at least a fan unlike Rian "I hate Star Wars Kill it' Johnson. JJ's probably just going to have some strange time travel device left by the emperor retcon Rian's shit fest or he'll have Leia trade herself into the force to resurrect Luke and at least redeem that fucking trash story point

Get fucked, tranny.

It’s a symptom of them shamelessly ripping off the OT so much that they forget the original designation

Seriously, why Disney doesn't hire Lucas as director for new SW movies?

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>Episode 9 has to both invent a reason to actually see the fucking thing, come up with a way to connect it, then actually make it good enough to be worth watching.
This. They have to come up with a plot to get people actually wanting to see it. Then they have to connect that plot to ep. 7 and 8. Then they have to concisely wrap up 40 years of storytelling. All in one movie. Haha, I don't envy JJ.

Is the first order really a new "empire"? They don't seem to control anything, or even have a capital or a structure.
And how can the resistance be the new rebels. I don't get the new political situation since TFA. Rebels in the OT were like guerrilla warriors, but the resistance is fighting against the remnants of the empire, not the empire.

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jesus christ

They miscalculated. It was not supposed to be a massive swath of the fanbase pissed off, with implications for well over half the entire audience. It was supposed to be a tiny agitated minority of internet trolls who would be ignored by everyone except for boogeyman narrative articles. The whole Finn controversy with the TFA trailer.
>And all the crying and complaining done about this movie was just used as part of Disney’s outrage / antagonistic marketing.
Which is infinitely less effective marketing than what they could have done if the movies had actually been good.
Stirring up controversy is great when your brand is unknown and you need to get people talking. For example, if you're trying to drum up interest for superheroes normal people have never cared about before like Black Panther and Captain Marvel, you might consider risking some controversy-based marketing.
Star Wars does not need that kind of shit to get $2 billion worth of eyeballs interested in the movie.

It didn't properly court a new fanbase, it bombed in China for example. In fact, if you google translate chinese reviews of TLJ you'll see a lot of comments and opinions that are considered racist or edgy in the west. People saying Fin is a ugly black actor, etc.
Second week of TLJ in theatres was very weak and now spin off movies are on hold. So I wouldn't this is a tale of success.

Lucas is an accomplished filmmaker. He's not a miracle worker.

The only person who can save this trilogy is someone who can travel through fucking time.

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>Star Wars is a dead franchise. The next movie will make slightly more money than Solo, but it will still bomb as a result of The Last Jedi.

>people actually believe this

No one knows. They completely neglect to explain any of that in 2 movies.

you win, im with IX now

>they actually thought pushing a black + asian romance angle would sell in the asian markets
is Disney retarded? or is it that they will push their agenda no matter what brand gets destroyed as long as they normalize what ever they are pushing

I think that's proof that the people on this board who think things were really planned out really are shills.

almost as bad as pointing out they had like 17 hours of fuel so the entire movie takes place in that time span including Rey leaving to go to where ever Luke was for days and fucking coming back as well in 17 hours.

>salt

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There's nothing left to salvage. The absolute best thing we can hope for is for Luke to show up as a force ghost acting like the old Luke, but even then, it's just going to be him sitting on a log, reminding Rey of how awesome she is.

Gambling is illegal at Yea Forums jannie, and I never slice.

It's because they are the tyranny. They are the oppressors of the masses and yet act as perpetual victims. It's sickening what's happened.

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wtf I love nuwars now

>prequels took all the magic and wonder out of the universe

The prequels built the world up and created a platform for others to build on. The prequels were kino. Boomers like you need to be gassed.

I unironically am looking forward to Episode 9, it's going to be very interesting to see what they do with it. How can you come back from a movie that ruined the entire franchise? In my opinion there is nothing they can do to make a satisfying movie after The Last Jedi, short of striking it as non-canon. So I'm very interested to see their attempt at the next one.

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Ways that Disney will try to save the trilogy:

1. Rey and Kylo love scene
2. Ahsoka
3. Time travel
4. Force ghost of your favourite characters (possibly Anakin)
5. More R2D2 and BB8 screen time
6. A bad orange man that is ruling the first order government (took it over from a female character)
7. More black characters
8. New light saber colour (yellow or pink)
9. Space battles with cool effects (Rey using the force to guide a death star v4.0 cannon shot)
10. The Emperor returns.

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I think people forget that Lucas made TPM and AotC, or have just let nostalgia cloud their objective opinion. I like the aesthetic of that era, but the storytelling was poop. Revenge of the Sith is all that you really needed, and TPM/AotC could have been summarized in a title crawl.

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People on Yea Forums that think there are paid shills posting this stuff are the same people that think Russian bots are the only people posting anti-leftist stuff. You really think Disney pays people to come to some obscure shit website with a few hundred users to shill their franchise? Nobody cares enough.

>Luke throwing away his lightsaber and accepting his death in refusal to join the emperor is the same as a pathetic attempt at a capeshit tier le random funny moment

They are clueless. They are liberal americans and they think everyone in the world share their view about things.
The chinese are really "sensitive" about the race of protagonists, and they deeply dislike black actors unless they are funny or manly.
Some reviewers even called Rose fat.
I'm not talking about edgy people, but normal people in the chinese equivalent of IMDB, the few chinese who went to see Star Wars, and they felt shat on by Disney.

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as if somehow Luke throwing away his light saber to uphold the strict values of being a Jedi and excepting anything that comes next including his own destruction because he will not destroy his own father and sacrifice his values even if it means sacrificing himself is somehow the same as a grizzled old hermit Luke who sacrificed everything all his values in order to kill his nephew because he sensed some darkness in him throwing away a light saber that was his own fathers that he lost when his father cut his own hand off and tried to get him to join the dark side and give up all his values is equivalent in Disney Star wars

As far as Disney nu-Wars goes, I actually found the stuff Solo was setting up more interesting than anything in the ST.

That's what a shill would say.

i can't read this. please retry with punctuation.

>t. fucking faggot!

>I think people forget that Lucas made TPM and AotC,

I remembered them, and I didn't like them, but they're still not as big as a trashfire as TLJ.

I'm going to bet you any amount of money that this is the beginning of the marketing machine for Ep IX. They won't do it officially but they will have twitter accounts, social media accounts, etc. posting about how JJ is going to save the franchise and how he hated TLJ.

This will be an attempt to lure us back, but just remember that TFA set this whole mess up. That movie alone made the entire OT null and void. The Empire came back bigger and stronger and the Jedi never came back.

You're in the wrong neighborhood, I'm afraid. Most people on here were toddlers at best when TPM came out, and they probably saw the prequels before the OT, so that's "their" trilogy.

kill yourself

that may be but there's also the chance Disney just goes full bore on fuck you fans TLJ is the greatest movie ever made. I mean I've seen recent articles where they still back Rian and confirm his trilogy is still 'on'

There was a time when I would have said there's no way they would recast Luke, Han, and Leia, but I guess all bets are off at this point.

>Place custom “emotional response” here.
Lol forgot to replace this

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>9. Space battles with cool effects (Rey using the force to guide a death star v4.0 cannon shot)

Final battle sequence in Episode IX is that Rey takes whatever big bad weapon the First Order is going to use and redirects it back to them while only having to withstand some slight perspiration on her brow for her trouble. #RESISTance

Oh my god, twitter is such fucking cancer.

Yeah, I'm not even convinced by them. I think there's very much a battle going on between JJ and Kennedy/Story Group but they're not letting it be known.

>This will be an attempt to lure us back, but just remember that TFA set this whole mess up. That movie alone made the entire OT null and void. The Empire came back bigger and stronger and the Jedi never came back.

I know. I'm sure as hell not gonna see Episode 9.

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>implying it would take Rey 10 years to crush the First Order with JJ and Kennedy behind the camera

That's a Facebook screencap.

From the people that control our culture you are correct. If the jews weren't involved, Star Wars would still be great.

that leak never had a source. as much as i'd like it to be true I don't believe it

Nowhere. Disney literally killed star wars. Even my mega normie friends and family dont care about star wars anymore.

Sacrifices will unfortunately have to be made. I liked the Darth Vader comic but the last issue had the "destroy the past" in it,clearly referencing TLJ, so it has to go too

>One movie
They're going to Harry Potter the shit out of this and make it Episode IX Part 1

No one cares about Star Wars anymore. People stopped caring after JJ Abrams hyped that he was working on a brand new Star Wars but instead delivered nothing more than a lazy remake of A New Hope. So many parents refused to bring their young children to see Star Wars in this generation. Star Wars died now and it will be buried when this generation grows up without ever knowing or caring about Star Wars.

No one has forgotten. 10 years ago we had no clue how low the bar could be set. The movies aren’t masterpieces, but they might as well be in comparison to what Disney released.

What do your mega normie friends care about? MCU and GoT I'd guess.

Id watch the prequels on repeat for a week straight before I'd watch another nu wars. And i hated the prequels.

I can confidently and with pride say "I have never seen Star Wars the Last Jedi"

I stopped caring really after the first Disney one. I only recently watched Rogue One on netflix and that wasn't okay, but kind of boring the main girl sucked. Haven't watched the other two.

>wasn't okay
was okay*

let me guess Rian Johnson's new Star Wars trilogy staring "Rian Johnson as Luke Skywalker"

>*throws saber away because he refuse to fight because he believes there is good inside his father, and he should be forgiven, not killed.*

>*throws saber away to get a quick laugh from the audience*

If you apply the same logic as your pic related, all movies with a chase that has to do with fuel would also be bad, because motivation and story doesn't matter.

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I could see him purposely bombing it. But how do you have that little harem of lore people and producers and executives who saw what he was doing and said "bravo youre a genius!!" Thats what i dont understand. Dozens of people signed off on his bullshit.

Revenge of the Sith is actually a good movie. TPM is pretty stupid and AotC is rife with brow-beating exposition, but put together they tell an ok-ish story. Nu-wars has gone from rehashing A New Hope with a new and diverse cast to tanking the entire franchise due to egos and agendas behind the camera, which results in a completely disjointed movie that takes any established character traits, throws them away, and pisses straight into the wind while having the complete lack of self-awareness to try and discredit everyone who has critiqued it.

Thats literally the best case scenario. And its still unwatchable and bad.

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It was from a video which was using some deleted Reddit post. It's feasible the rumor could be bullshit, but on the other hand, too many things end up pointing toward it being true:
-Kennedy getting her contract renewed and no one really wanting to take over Lucasfilm because Episode 9 is in production. We do know that Episode 9 had production problems of its own because Trevorrow got fired, and JJ suddenly was attached to the project even though he implied he wasn't going to do 8 and 9.
-Pablo Hildalgo made tweets where he was not exactly thrilled with Episode 7 and implied that JJ shut the story group out.

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Attack of the Clones was kino. Phantom Menace too.

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places like Hollywood are filled with fucking yes men and women. Literal hoards of NPC's that get to where they are by always agreeing with everyone and stroking egos.

STOP WATCHING SHIT

Borking the second movie even more than the first has left them nowhere to go. This franchise should be a merchandise goldmine, and they borked it all up to appeal to edgy hipster losers. Darth Jar-Jar killing everyone is the best we can hope for.

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>be in captian marvel thread a few days ago
>someone posts a pic showing how RT changed the score
>post a pic of merchant man rubbing his hands together
>banned for 4 days for posting racist images
>the pic was literally an old man rubbing his hands together

Yeah i agree user totally no shills around here.

The action is the same, the context is literally the opposite, you'd have to be retarded not to understand this

ROTJ
- I AM a Jedi
- I WON'T kill my father despite his well-documented acts of genocide spanning decades
- Jedi are people of virtue and compassion and I'm proud to be one, as my father was before me

TLJ
- I'm NOT a Jedi
- Maybe I should kill my sleeping nephew because I had a vision
- The Jedi are cunts, fuck them, and fuck you, now get lost

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Wrong, the prequels are magical

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>The action is the same, the context is literally the opposite, you'd have to be retarded not to understand this

To be clear, that screencap made me very convinced it's the shills trying in vain to defend every out-of-character moment in TLJ. And if you believe there's a conflict between JJ's camp and Kennedy's camp, it makes sense why.

There's a very weird propensity for propaganda and thought policing coming out of LFL and official Star Wars outlets these days that never happened under George's watch. It's unsurprising, but depressing all the same.

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Actually, this would not be a big issue if the twelve or so rebels decide to hide in a primitive planet that suddenly is attacked by the FO, so then would have the chance to train a bunch of space vietkong and win the battle, reviving the resistence trought a subplot with talkings with other planets to support them.

Btw, is Corruscant destroyed? What is the capital of the FO?

Correct I guess, but you still made it sound more grandiose and well written than it actually was.

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Really, why is the First Order a threat? they got their doom weapon blown up, their leader killed, and their fleet destroyed. Where is a 3rd party coming in to take over? Where are the Huts or any of the other factions at?

this

>Place custom “emotional response” here.
Looks like we got another one of them ruskie cyborgs in this thread, I'll call it in.

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Because they wanted to make it like ANH/ESB where the superweapon blew up but then in the next movie the Rebels were running from the Empire.

But they forgot that there was a reason there was a passage of time between movies. Or that the First Order wasn't even an Empire yet.

Yeah, feels like all they care about doing is making things happen regardless of logic or consistency.
Also RJ has an elementary understanding of how space works! Fucking hack writer!

I feel like he did this on purpose.

He absolutely did. So many things in VIII were done deliberately to spite the fans.

How does Han Solo even know how the Force works/believes in it

He literally never saw neither Luke nor Leia use it

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>it set up an entire universe of possibilities

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He saw Luke use it at least twice.

>He literally never saw neither Luke nor Leia use it

that's very unlikely

But why would anyone do this? Do they just hate Disney so much that they wanted to see it tank?
I think RJ is just an idiot.

I mean, Luke uses it in front of him a couple times in the OT.

You missed the rest of the post

He's way too genuinely defensive on Twitter for this to be true.

He did it to spite the fans.

Somebody post the "Your Snoke theory sucks" picture. I don't have it saved.

>The prequels took all magic and wonder out of the universe
t. boomer scum
just because they didn't pander to your nostalgia doesn't make the prequels bad

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Reminder Rey & Cucklo Ren are still weaker than Sidious, Anakin, ObiWan, Mace, Yoda, Maul, & Dooku. Fact.

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Former fan of the movies here. Nope. Am interested to see the trainwreck though, so don't let me down on premiere day and post dem memes.

I might watch it for Kylo Ren but that's it. Cant believe emo boy ended up being the only positive thing to come out of the trilogy

Reminder that Disney Wars thinks their *record scratch* SUBVERTED moment is as meaningful as Luke deciding not to kill his father.

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>he criticizes meaningless postmodern deconstruction of western tropes
what are you some kind of nazi incel?

STILL can't believe they obnoxiously attacked Star Wars fans over that criticism with pathetic damage control. Like holy shit.

>attacked
1 yike

>spotted 1 kike

t. J. J. Abrams

Instead of complaining and whining about Star Wars, why don't we just find some other franchise to turn to or a franchise to return to? There is going to be a Netflix adaptation of The Witcher novels, and a couple of months ago, before I knew about the Netflix adaptation, I decided to buy a book from The Witcher series because of what I saw online about the video games and also because of Smosh game's video on the Witcher series. Or you can return to The Lord of the Rings or check out the Dune series. Check these links out, Star Wars may have been influenced by Dune and Lord of the Rings, not just Japanese action/adventure films or American sci-fi like Flash Gordon:

moongadget.com/origins/dune.html

moongadget.com/origins/lotr.html

Oh no, am I being attacked?

>why don't we just find some other franchise to turn to or a franchise to return to?

literally any movie or show a torrennt away and you can't stop thinking in terms of franchises.

Honestly who cares about power levels? They can issue a formal statement signed by the Pope that the Rey is the bestest ever, I'll still find those older characters more interesting, which is what matters.

TLJ's ending is so open it almost feels like a deliberate open ending more than the hook into a third film. There's Kylo taking command of the First Order, TLJ doesn't give anything concrete for the audience to attach to going forward. Kylo's "killing the past" mission statement is too vague to connect.

Not that TESB's ending wasn't open, but with Han frozen in carbonite with his fate in the air and Luke grappling with paternal revelations there was a clear emotional bridge into wherever the plot would go next.

Well okay, you can continue watching Star Wars.

Here is a YouTube link to a cool music video about Star Wars: youtube.com/watch?v=SWUrl7FpkAo

I hope that music video gets you all hyped up for the next Star Wars film that you will enjoy.

Based. Power levels are the bane of the Star Wars fandom.

You'd think official SW twitter would use better quality screencaps than those. Might as well take a photo of the screen with your phone.

Reminder that IX will not fail because Reylo is massively popular with everyone outside of Yea Forums. It will not do TFA numbers, but Reylo can take it to a billion.
Unironically based

Correct, power levels are faggot tier

Someone should start a twitter campaign where people are encouraged not to see EpIX until the third weekend.
A tribute to my knowing third weekenders

hey i loved the originals and even liked the prequels , I just accept that you can not rekindle the past . it seems so forced these new films are just an attempted nostalgia trip that failed . I do not care about any of the new characters . The reason the new films failed so hard was not for any other reason then Disney thinking of the next trilogy 10-11-12 is what they were thinking about not 7-8-9 . killing off the old cast as they tried to build up the new one that nobody gives a fuck about is where it all went wrong in my opinion .

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All the prequels, Force Awakens, the Last Jedi, Solo, and Rogue One have all been bad. And if we want to be honest, Return of the Jedi wasn't that good either.

A New Hope and Empire Strikes Back are the only two that are good.

Ironic, as 10-12 will require an all new cast for anyone to give a shit about them.

t. NPC

RTJ isn't that bad if you cut out all the Ewok shit

Ultra-normie taste

Star Wars/Marvel cross-over.

RotJ is messy but the effects work is still great, and the Luke/Vader stuff is thoughtful and well-executed. It doesn't deliver on TESB's promise, but that's a tall order. Its biggest problem is how the ewok stuff cripples the pacing. Did we really need Threepio giving ewoks a Star Wars summary, for example? I don't mind the ewoks much as a concept.

It would be hilarious if 10-12 were some bizarre pottery character assassination of the ST characters. Just have Finn a 60 year old janitor for some new Empire knockoff, Rey sulking on some shithole planet and Poe, well, I don't even know much about Poe besides that he can fly and can't land a joke, so they can ruin him anyway they like.

I am torn between this, and something happening a hundred years later with Force Ghost Luke being the only returning character. Fuck, make it Force Ghost Anakin.

>Did we really need Threepio giving ewoks a Star Wars summary, for example? I don't mind the ewoks much as a concept.
Well, they wanted to eat Luke, Han and Chewie until Leia interceded. I imagine they'd need a little more convincing to be pulled over to their side so they'd die for them instead of just leaving them alone. And havong C-3PO play their golden idol was pretty circuit-wracking to him and paints him in an exploitative light if that stays the reason they join up with our heroes. And the scene was cute.

I swear Endor is the ultimate pleb filter

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Ironic shitposting is still shitposting.

What if JJ trashes Reylo?

is that Rian next to him?

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>tfw you realize it will be Rey who kills Thanos, not Captain Marvel

Wew, that really subverted my expectations.

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That doesn't actually matter, as TLJ permanently shattered the illusion. It would be pretty funny, though.

JJ started it, talked about the characters as if they were the next upcoming Disney prince/princess pair. Hell, I'm willing to bet they'll make an appearance together in the next Wreck It Ralph.

I "get" the scene. But given the movie's lackluster use of Han and Leia it makes the pacing weirdness that much more obvious and frustrating. In and of itself I find the scene charming and funny, and I like the ewoks in general as I previously said, I just don't think the movie always had the most compelling priorities.

theyre total camp, and hollow underneath the world-building green screen imagery and pointless characters. Makeup and tafetta piled a mile high on top of a blind dying pig

this is god tier leverl of bait ...nice one

On his right, yes. He's the one shutting him down with a simple touch.

>But given the movie's lackluster use of Han and Leia it makes the pacing weirdness that much more obvious and frustrating.

You know, I never noticed any pacing issues with ROTJ. I'm sorry if you and others feel that way.

he will, Adam is pissed he lost the Oscar and will tell JJ to force Finn and Rey

and Empire Strikes Back is about a billion times better than A New Hope.

>Obviously none of you watched Last Jedi, because it set up an entire universe of possibilities.
"Everyone gets to be a Jedi now" isn't infinite possibilities. It just means everyone suddenly wins the Force lottery. In fact, that narrows it down. What story other than "I now have this power that I don't understand" would there be left to tell? "Little Timmy Dipshit, the little normie who couldn't"?

to be fair, adam deserved several oscars for what he had to endure with that fat whale from that HBO show

Exactly. C-3P0 is a protocol droid, whose specialty is being fluent in over 6 million forms of communication, actually be able to do something more than rote translation or chiming in with minor commentary.

So do you guys think episode 9 will gross less money then TLJ or not break the one billion mark?
I think it’s very possible with all the fans that won’t be seeing it in theatres or will only watch it once (not to mention DVD/blue ray sales)
And on top of all the negative reviews and feedback TLJ has gotten up to this point especially on YouTube
I just think episode 9 is riding a hype train that is no way as big as the last two movies had and will likely suffer from negative hype, I mean like I can imagine when the trailer for it drops there will be tons of people making videos picking it apart and using it to explain why they think the movie will be bad

Fincels devastated that their manlet fave will amount to nothing.

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> Intro rolls
> Seeing through Finns eyes(blurry) as he slowly comes to. Poe screaming for him to wake up.
> Stumbles to his feat. "I just had the weirdest dream."
> Poe: "What? We got to go"
> Action sequence of ship being blown to pieces as the two run through corridors
> They close an airlock and Finn peers through the window. He sees an assortment of people running towards door ( Including Leia and Rose). Explosion happens and sucks them all into space.
>Finn and Poe make it to an escape pod.
>Turns out the First Order captured Rey on her way to find luke.
>Luke senses the first order coming and escapes.
> Luke starts calling to Finn using the force.
> They eventually find Luke (He ran out of fuel or something so he had to hide on a planet)
> *Insert plot here*

>The ultimate expectation subversion. There is actually 4 movies in the trilogy and The Last Jedi was a filler.

Those are two very Jewish faces.

the movie would have had a great ending if Rey joined Kylo and Finn sacrificed himself to allow the Resistance to escape
instead Rian wrote in the extra 45 minutes for no fucking reason, fucked up the plot even more, and, as you already said, wrote the entire fucking trilogy into a corner.
there's literally nowhere to go from here

you've got your cheap (you)s now fuck off

>levitated C3PO on Endor while they were captive to the Ewoks
>did a bunch of crazy Jedi shit while fighting Jabba (sure, Han was half-blind, but could was still mostly aware of what was going on
>indubitably saw Luke do other Jedi shit after ROTJ

I fucking wish, if only for the memes.

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Don’t forget Rose becoming a evil arms dealer that owns child slaves

Empire is the ultimate cliffhanger. Really, there's nothing that can top it

I've seen fucking commercials that have more compelling cliffhangers than TLJ

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Dooku was magnificent, he could have carried a trilogy as the main villian.

>fat asian chick
How are a short fat vietnamese and a tall thai girl sisters?

>Dooku was magnificent, he could have carried a trilogy as the main villain.
I agree, but he's sort of a discount Thrawn.

>we
I will just download the movie, watch it and then I will see if I liked it or not. Then forget about it instantly.

Star Wars is fucked beyond repair.

the dialogue in this movie was atrocious, it made the prequels dialogue less shitty.

Each word you put in this post was incorrect

Star Wars has always been shit.

>Does anybody even give a shit anymore?
no

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Nowhere, really. I think best case scenario is Star Wars is cancelled for awhile immediately after 9 is released. Worse case, for Disney anyway, is that they keep trying to milk it, and keep losing more money as a result.

There's a big reason they won't announce a title or release a trailer until some time in July or August at the earliest. They don't expect it to be well-accepted, no matter what they do. And they're right.

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> Kathleen Kennedy and the wine aunts from San Francisco hate Star Wars fans and want a different fanbase that's more DIVERSE
> JewJew hates whites and has made his money tricking the audience and leaving a shit load of mystery boxes all over the place instead of telling a story

Things are going great aren't they?

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Constant reshoots confirm it

Star Wars was always destined to crash and burn. The first mistake was the dumb ewoks in RotJ. It only raced downhill from there. Cheesy and corny Jar Jar and the buffoonish prequels were laughably bad. TFA was nothing more than a lazy remake of ANH. TLJ was just the nail in the coffin. There is nothing IX can do to salvage the franchise. Interest in Star Wars is dead. Parents with little kids were so turned off by the stupidity of nu-Wars that they never exposed their kids to the Star Wars universe. It's dead now and it is already dead in the future. Disney's only hope is to make Star Wars go away for 20 years or so and then bring it back suddenly and quietly without hype. Maybe by then people will forget about the disaster of nu-Wars and a curious interest in what Star Wars was might be enough to compel people to consume a new Star Wars again.

Not based and bluepilled

Dude, this movie fucking sucks but lets not start defending the prequels.

>lets not start defending the prequels
>start

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boomer

t. boomer

Let the turbo-teens have their fun, user.

youre not fooling anyone old man
all boomers must die

I've been defending the prequels since they came out.

I'm 25. The prequels and sequels both suck.

I'm 31, the prequels are alright little boy

I care enough to shitpost about it on Yea Forums, but I don't care enough to actually go watch the movies.

No.

OMG A CAPTAIN MARVEL / STAR WARS CROSSOVER IS COMING!!!!!!!!!!

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I cant wait for the next trilogy to cast brie larson

>and the Luke/Vader stuff is thoughtful and well-executed

Literally the only good part of finale while Ewoks and space battle makes no fucking sense.

No to mention battle of Endor makes no fucking sense in the first place since Rebel fleet spends half of the battle getting raped but then they magically win after Death Star blows up.

RotJ is already prequel lite. It has some really good parts but over half of the movie is bad.

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>originally wookie rebellion
>changed to cute teddy bears to be cheaper and sell more merch

I swear to god Lucas apologists are all sub 50 IQ.

The next movie is going to bomb.

Nobody gives a crap about muh Lucas other than contrarians and autistic youtube channels. The only way to save SW is to make a new series of films that either happens long before or long after Civil War saga. The thing is all competent directors won't touch Star Wars becasue they know fans will eat them alive if movies are not perfect. It happened to PT it happens to ST. Star Wars ruined careers.

I hope so, but I doubt it.

It's going to make 700-800 million.

Hope it makes less than that. I dislike everyone involved in Star Wars now except maybe a couple of actors. We all had fun roasting George, but I always liked the guy. Everyone behind the scenes running Lucasfilm now seem like a bunch of fucking assholes.

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Doubt it. It'll be lucky if it makes $400 million.

Star Wars Episode VIII : 2

Nah, mate. Solo took the bullet for The Last Jedi.
Millions of people went into that movie expecting it to be good. Nobody knew just how bad it would be.
By the time word got out that it was fucking awful, the movie had already made its money.
Fans were furious, so what did they do? They took it out on Solo.
Solo was also hated by the few people who did see it.
Star Wars is done.

Reasons to use Wookies instead:
>They're more badass and cool

Reasons to not Wookies:
>no nature vs technology theme, wookies have advanced tech
>no reflection of the Yoda idea (in which small seemingly insignificant beings can actually be of great importance) and no instance of Luke showing that he has learned this lesson already
>no Luke using his force powers to imitate a god in C3PO so that the cannibals don't eat them
>story would have ground to a halt as Chewbacca takes the focus introducing to the Wookies and so on, leaving Luke, Han and Leia by the wayside for several scenes at a minimum

You are the one who is low IQ and just wants things to be more BADASS and EPIC

But Wookies would guaranteed sell more toys than Ewoks, so that theory is bunk

This. The damage is done.

WHERE THE FUCK IS THE EPISODE 9 TRAILER

This

people who don't like AotC are dickheads

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>Yea Forums
>some obscure shit website with a few hundred users

I will never pay for another Star Wars movie.

no

That was the only logical reaction to TFA, since it wasn't a complete movie. Now that TLJ "completed" it, it's shit.

Literal shill

>use wookies instead of ewoks
>the planet would be kashyyyk
>the second death star is literally hidden in kashyyyk's orbit
i guess everyone's a retard in the eyes of an actual retard

Clearly people do because folks like yourself keep making these stupid threads that 404.

Faggot before EU and PT crap Wookies were a super rare race barely anyone cared about. The theme of Empire enslaving them for forced labor on Death Stars makes 100% sense.

>Wookies were a super rare race
>Empire enslaving them for forced labor on Death Stars
where do you get this or are you just pulling bullshit out of your ass now?

Glad I'm not the only one

theplaylist.net/mark-hamill-kill-past-star-wars-20190304/

“I was once describing ‘Star Wars’ fans, and I said, ‘They’re passionate, they’re opinionated, and they feel a sense of ownership, because they’ve invested so much time in these characters and these stories,’ and I realized I was describing myself. It can get you into trouble, because I don’t control the storylines. I’m sort of like a musician. I read the music, and I try to play it to the best of my ability. That doesn’t necessarily mean I like the tune, but that’s not my job.”

It's hard seeing Hamill trying to square his personal horror with the professional detachment he thinks he should have.

Wookies were enslaved by Empire this is canon since forever and they were so rare in OT we only ever see one and even C3PO barely knew them.

>even C3PO barely knew them.
imsdb.com/scripts/Star-Wars-A-New-Hope.html
Not seeing any sign of that. They're apparently common enough that Obi-Wan (and Rey, but that's another story) understands Shyriiwook enough to converse with Chewie about getting a ride.

Does anyone else just not treat the nu-trilogy as canon?

At this point the official canon is so fucked up with those films and the EU purge you're better off with your own headcanon, thats what I did before anyways by refusing to acknowledge the Yuzan Vong, which was retarded shit.

But never before did I think I'd eventually have to do the same for an actual Star Wars movie. Star Wars deserves better than what Disney, KK, JJ, and RJ had to offer

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Only one thing can save the franchise

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Nah, it was some other city planet they invented just so they could blow it up. It's in the supplementary materials.

I don't want Disney or EA going anywhere near KOTOR

I sense fresh pasta.

>retarded shit.
Why? I mean, their execution was the best, but there was a lot of good material there.

I actually find it hard connecting the Nu trilogy to the other Trilogies.

When I think Star Wars my brain straight away thinks of the OT and the Prequels.

Shits all over the force as a mystical concept even more than midichlorians because suddenly its only limited to their galaxy and has no effect on the vong

>Does anyone else just not treat the nu-trilogy as canon?
Yup. The only movies in my headcanon are III-VI. I still enjoy the first two prequels, but the story (in my opinion) is overall better when one just omits them. The sequels weren't even worth the time spent watching them.

So nowhere new?

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I fear you're right friend.

I do the same, and some parts of AOTC but only Kamino and Geonosis

TPM is completely forgettable except for the final duel

Why do you think they got the Game of Thrones guys for their own trilogy?

They have repeatedly denied that they're doing Old Republic but I guarantee you they are.

>its only limited to their galaxy
No it isn't. The Force encompasses the whole universe, the Vong just separated themselves from the Force when they destroyed their home planet, which they had a symbiotic relationship with. And we already had the Ysalmiri, tree lizards that created force absent bubbles and thus protected anyone in that bubble from direct Force use.

Hell, half the endgame is finding Zonoma Sekot, the sentient planet born from a seed of the Yuuzhan Vong home planet, in part so that the Vong can reconnect with the Force.

I could agree... but Menace is a better film that Return. Despite some of the high points, Jedi can get as sluggish as Attack at some points.

I liked the pod race and still do

I love when ghosts need to sit down on something corporeal

>ghost luke appears
>sits on a log
>audience expects him to say something deep and wise
>"Why did you steal my books? I didn't say you could take them."