Have we been critiquing Captain Marvel for the wrong reasons?

Sure, the feminazi and WHITE MALE REEEE critiques are good for laughs, but at the end of the day all they do is validate Disney's misandrist marketing campaign. "Free real estate," as they say.

We should instead be attacking this film for promoting US (read: ZOG) militarism and imperialism. Every film that wants access to actual military equipment has to have its script doctored by glow-in-the-dark niggers. Captain Marvel is ultimately a symbol of "woke" neoliberal feminism; the "MORE(clap)FEMALE(clap)DRONE(clap)PILOTS" meme come to life. An avatar for debased feminist polemics under late capitalism.

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America will accuse third-worlders of sexism if they object to being bombed from 12,000 feet.

Sickening, isn't it? The reactionaries are increasingly the only ones making sense these days. The left has just abadoned all principles or solidarity with the working class.

>Have we been critiquing Captain Marvel for the wrong reasons?
yes, she has demon possessed feet

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>disliking militarism
Faggot. Also, I don't mind a female lead in my movies because I'm not a petty incel who feels threatened by women.

How can you critique a movie you haven't seen?

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The only criticism that stands imo is that the trailers / marketing are awfully repetitive

based

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Most American media is military/statist propaganda.

This is how you defeat the mouse. Not with your degenerate foot fetishism but with pointing out Marvel movies are literally US military propaganda.

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I've been anti-war for thirty years. The only people protesting war anymore are the alt-right.

I didn't abandon the left. The left abandoned me.

Plenty of leftists are anti-war though.

>MORE(clap)FEMALE(clap)DRONE(clap)PILOTS
based leftypol, let's do this

It should also be pointed out that former CIA agents are now running for public office and using their agency service as campaign bona fides.

Name one that also doesn't hate white people. Hard mode: is alive and not senile.

Not since 2002.

>Plenty of leftists are anti-war though

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>Hillary voters
>Anti War

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>Hillary voters
>leftist
oh no sweetums

>Captain Marvel pretends to be a Hillary suporter friendly feminsit film
>it is actually a film that supports Trump's racist warmongering regime under fascist Russian control to attack Mexicans and Muslims hidden in America like Skrulls

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The only American leftists who are pro-war are dumb anarchists who support Rojava and Trots who memed themselves into becomong Republicans (neocons).
Everyone elss you think is "left" are actually just liberals.

That's the most disgustingly hilarious thing. Hillary has been a war mongering tool for the 1%, but her fanbase is full of people who think they are supporting an anti-war progressive, hell, even socialist canidate.

t. former Bernout

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>former Bernout
I hope you made the leap to alt-right like most of us who had principles and realized even Sanders was morally bankrupt after caving to Hilldawg

but didn't they say that Killmonger was a former CIA / US military operative that they trained and went rogue? Wasn't it just another mess the CIA created and Ross got stuck with cleaning it up for The Company?

It's been a well known and documented fact for decades that Clinton is a war hawk elitist puppet. The american voter is just that dumb.

Yeah, I don't know about alt-right, but I definitely don't consider myself a democratic socialist anymore.

Its Islamaphobic too because those jets are almost always used to bomb Sandniggers.

Are you at least redpilled on the JQ?

fuck off /pol/

Yeah, it looks like a great recruiting tool . . . for the coast guard.

It sounds edgy but the left and right are just different boots attached to the same body. The same powers guide them on all matters of importance.

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Actually, I have been always pretty center right. I am just open to socialist safety nets as a compromise. It isn't ideal, but I am open to them. My parents are on social security. I am on public option Romneycare right now between jobs myself. That worked better thsn Obama's pipe dream and Hillary's even bigger one when Bill was in office. Sadly Dems are doubling down on the idea of single payer when they couldn't even get a public option going nationally for healthcare.

On the flip side I did vote for Ron Paul in 2012 because, like Bernie, I found him honest and a balance to the system even if I wasn't with all his views.

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A lot of leftist luminaries were aware of the JQ. Marx, Bakunin, Kropotkin...
When you get kicked out of over a hundred countries, one would start to think the problem is with them and not the host, right?

Nazi punks fuck OFF

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>they couldn't even get a public option going nationally for healthcare.
Well when the people in the pocket of the insurance companies start memeing about death panels and waiting months for a check-up, it's hard to get popular support from the dumbest among us no matter how good an idea it is.

The CIA trend is the most distressing. This strange trend of never questioning the intelligence community is pretty ridiculous.And then the MSM is massively grabbing any "former" intelligence officer the can get. During the Iraq days they had a fuckton of generals ready for the news at all times, and now they have been replaced by intel officers.
Its like 2016 not going how they wanted has made them decide to just drop merely influencing those in power and try to replace them outright

Too true I could not stand the left globally since the late 00s but they've been globalist shills long before that
Hahahahahahah

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Modern activists don't give a shit about war.
At least real war.
According to them, war isinternet shitposting.

Well.. horseshoe theory / political compass. Both the left and right can be against liberal / libertarian ideals.

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No every movie is propaganda, keep pushing the Monica Reambau angle. Its easier to say your taking away something from black people that'll confuse whitey. Then I suppose the real question is what's more progressive, being the first Miss Marvel or being the seventh Captain Marvel?

I am a jaded 29 y/o boomer who has abandoned all idealism/hope for positive change and just focuses on getting by in his own pointless life. It's easier this way. Complaining is fun though.

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Hippies in hindsight were a better form of contrarian leftist
I'd rather hear about the man and his oppressive industrial military war machine than race all the time. At least protesting the military machine is protesting the world's most powerful killing force

>I am a jaded 29 y/o boomer
Brie?

I know this is a joke but with the way the future is going don't be surprised if one day you see
>You will die (and that's a good thing) and
>nerds just can't handle that it's a female killing them.
Unironically.

And that's why they all demanded Obama's resignation after his war in Lybia that somehow managed to fuck up the middle east even more. Right?

Yes. Stop mistaking liberals for leftists. Actual socialists have always hated Obama.

Where are all this mystical "Actual socialists"?

Military propaganda is very much real and quite blatant
youtu.be/N5xfBtD6rLY

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>trying to take the heat off of feminists
>trying to redirect the anger towards the government and the military
LMAO

>and realized even Sanders was morally bankrupt after caving to Hilldawg
I knew he was going to capitulate utterly at east six months before he did. I used to listen to his weekly call-in segment on Thom Hartman's radio show. After a while of actually listening to him interact with the public his moral cowardice became obvious. I remember telling my Bernie bro cousins this at thanksgiving and they flipped their lids.

Thing was I expected him to cave to the real powers AFTER the election. He didn't even make it that far.

The 45% of Democrats who voted for Bernie in the 2016 primaries?
MSM would have you believe Hillary shills are the totality of the "left."

Are you 1488 now?

Distinction without a difference.

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Let's just say Antifa has tried to ID me from demonstration footage.

>Have we been critiquing Captain Marvel for the wrong reasons?
>Disney has started the "Captain Marvel Challenge" a campaign to donate money to get tickets for children to see the movie
>Captain Marvel uses and promotes the United States Air Force

Yes? They're trying to sell a recruitment film to little girls and they're trying to get normies to pay for it. Disney is not just trying to sell the product, they're trying to make it an event film. Im not trying to be a stick in the mud either. Im all for women in film, little girls having a super hero to go so, but trying to act like this is the first one ever and it's going to be some kind of moment? Trying to act like this is THE movie to define this? It is disgusting

that is disgusting

>is this movie we havent seen bad?
good question
you get back to me on that

It's called "progwashing." They're fresh out of firsts so they just feign historical amnesia and larp as if it's 1967 every time they release another forced diversity flick.

When are alt-right retards () to realize that they're playing into porky's game by dividing up the proletariat through identity politics?
You don't fight black or Latino isentity politics with white identity politics; you fight the whole structure through class consciousness/solidarity/ warfare.

They buy into memes too easily, the same way everyone does.

The Iraq war and the media's reaction to it helped to get the Republican party labeled the war party for over a decade and the Republicans accepted it as they treat the armed forces as something patriotic to support.

>muh identity politics
The dream of a racially unified proletariat is a lie. The only people who even believe in that shit are white people.

To be fair, any film featuring DOD hardware has to have its script approved by the DOD. If they like your script they provide all your billion-dollar props for free. It's an incredibly attractive option for producers.

Porky lies.
Fred Hampton and Malcolm and Martin believed it. And porky killed them for it.

I prefer to see it as a Black Man who has been trained as a Warrior King, leading the ground fight to retake his kingdom, while the White Man who has been trained as a Fighter Pilot, flies (remotely) a mission to stop the weapons from leaving Wakanda. The White Man couldn't have lead the ground battle and the Black Man (probably) couldn't have done the flight mission.
Basically a Black Man and a White Man, teamed up to Save the World, each using their personal skill and what their best at.

That should be a powerful message, about how the best way to save the world is for everyone to unite and work together and do the thing they're best at to make the world a better place. But instead we get shit like this saying that it's racist to have a white guy help save the world, because it was black people's time

No, because her Air Force role is fuck all

Her history in the movie is that she joined the Air Force and was a pilot and what not. She was then recruited to SHIELD as a test pilot for an aerospace jet fighter that was powered by Tesseract energies as part of Project Pegasus. The file she's reading in the trailer, that's her SHIELD personal file that's stored in a SHIELD warehouse. The base she and Fury fly the Quinjet out of, another SHIELD base. That's why she knows instinctively how to fly Quinjets, not because she's an Ace Pilot, but because she spent a lot of time flying them for SHIELD.

It was a splash of cold water when I discovered the same people who parrot BLORMF rhetoric from CNN were fanatical supporters of the Iraq War in the aughts.

Malcom X was killed by his own people. MLK was used as a tool to ethnically cleanse white ethnic neighborhoods in Chicago and the only interest he had in working class whites were white working girls. Fred Hampton was a black separatist who wanted nothing to do with whites.

This sounds like the kind of crap I believed when I was a socialist and that only anarcho communists believe now. 90% of whom are whites. And whom are only actually mobilized to attack working class white people.

Documents expose how Hollywood promotes war on behalf of the Pentagon, CIA and NSA

These documents for the first time demonstrate that the US government has worked behind the scenes on over 800 major movies and more than 1,000 TV titles.

Alongside the massive scale of these operations, our new book National Security Cinema details how US government involvement also includes script rewrites on some of the biggest and most popular films, including James Bond, the Transformers franchise, and movies from the Marvel and DC cinematic universes.

A similar influence is exerted over military-supported TV, which ranges from Hawaii Five-O to America’s Got Talent, Oprah and Jay Leno to Cupcake Wars, along with numerous documentaries by PBS, the History Channel and the BBC.

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Forgot the link.
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shes literally jessica biel from stealth
then she gets superpoweres

Malcolm was killed by NOI retards (who glow in the dark) who hated him for abandoning black nationalism.
Idiotic characterization of MLK.
As for Hampton, pic related. Look up the Young Patriots.

And the antifa that are attacking "working class white people" are only doing so because the political ambitions of those white folks threatens non-whites.

And are you English, German, French, or Scandi? If not, you wouldn't have even been considered "white" until the 1950s.

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well not literally retard

>the Transformers franchise
It's hilarious how Transformers 4 trades American military propaganda for Chinese military propaganda because Bay got all his funding from China for that one.

but he is a literal retard

Leftists keep getting BTFO everywhere and it's beautiful.

>No, because her Air Force role is fuck all
She is very specifically a test pilot

No, she was an Air Force fighter Pilot in the mid 80s. Then around 89-90 she left the Air Force and Joined SHIELD, eventually being selected to be the test pilot for a new aerospace jet fighter that was powered by Tesseract energies as part of Project Pegasus. During testing, she encountered the Skrull and Kree, crash landed and absorbed energy from the Tesseract, giving her powers. The Kree noticed this and figured they could use her so they took her. The Skrulls decide the energy from the Tesseract is something worth pursuing, so they leave a detachment on earth.

If only the writer and illustrator of captain marvel agreed with you

talking about war so generally is not useful. war has it's place in human society. leftists are usually against wars that have to do with expansion.

>If not, you wouldn't have even been considered "white" until the 1950s

This is horseshit intended to deconstruct the identity of whites. The immigration acts of 1790, 1795, and 1780 all restricted immigration to "free white people of good character", and this remained federal law until the immigration act of 1965. None of these acts needed to define "white", nor did they restrict immigration to specific European ethnicities. Americans correctly understood who white people were for well over hundred years. To pretend otherwise is a retcon.

You might believe it, but the people who invented this myth did so cynically.

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I mean Bush Sr. was CIA director and president 30 years ago. This isn't new.

>leftists are usually against wars that have to do with expansion.
For the white west. They no longer have any problem with wars to destroy the neighborhood rivals of Israel.

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The Founding Fathers wouldn't have considered Irish or Italians or Slavs to be "white." That expansion came later, and is still happening. Many Latinos like Marco Rubio or Ted Cruz are now subsumed into "whiteness."

Also this country was built by and for Anglo-Saxon Protestant men. Yet, the founding documents and ideologies are rooted in a liberal framework that necessarily contradicts ethnocentrism. Liberalism is inherently Protestant, secular, individualist, and "inclusive"; the Anerucan project as multiracial was inevitable from the get-go. And that's not to mention the continuous presence of African slaves and Native peoples.

Fun fact the author of this article also wrote a couple of books on the illuminati and most of all a book called "a long way for a date" about his quest for a traditionnal spouse in the Philippines. He also has a website crammed with antifeminist propaganda and a funny link to a website named savethemales.ca
A literal incel weeb with a phony pH.D

All action movies today are war propaganda, you nigs. No way all the military hardware they use they make as models, no fucking way the war kikes let directors play around with their shit if a movie casts a bad light on Uncle Sam. Paying for movies equals funding the fag welfare queens of our blessed military of much democracy and many freedoms.

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>Many Latinos like Marco Rubio or Ted Cruz are now subsumed into "whiteness."

Which is because they're at least part white (or at least Cruz is) and have been deemed "white" by lefties as a way to dismiss anything they say that the left disagrees with.

Feminism has been used as a tool by big business and big government ever since the tobacco companies realised they could get women hooked on smoking by convincing them it was rebellious to smoke when men didn't want you to.

Class war is different from countries fighting each others for their resources.

>We should instead be attacking this film for promoting US (read: ZOG) militarism and imperialism

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>white isn't real and your own values say you have to accept being overrun with hundreds of millions of immigrants, hehe
>every other racial identity is real though, goy.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gloria_Steinem#CIA_ties

Obama is literally 50% white. He's technically "whiter" than Rubio (who is over 50% "Native" but looks superficially "whiter" than many Meds).
Is he allowed in the ethnostate? ;)

>have to accept being overrun with hundreds of millions of immigrants
You're descended from immigrants. This is a country of immigrants. "White" America dropped any pretense of ethnonationalism or cultural uniformity the moment it let all the Germans and Irish Catholics in.

The "class war" of white trust fund kids larping as a revolutionary vanguard while being defended by the state, major corporations, and legal defense NGOs with millions in their war chests.

Oh and they also never mobilize for any anti-war cause, supported the pro-war candidate in the last election, and supported continued conflict in Syria.

Come to think of it you're right. It IS a class war. But the classes are the inverse of what you'd have me believe.

Maybe you believe it yourself. You're stupid if you do.

I meant nonwhites and you know it. You can play semantic games all day to pretend there's no racial differences between whites and POC. I'm not buying it. Literally no one does. You don't either.

You'd have to ask a leftie mate.
All I know is that as long as your skin is lighter then obviously brown and you're not bowing down to them, then you're a whiter racist.

The cope of the Amerimutt is palpable. Your ancestors abandoned their homelands to work as scabs and drive down wages for the sons of the scabs who came to America a few decades prior.
There has never been a uniform "white" American culture, people, or nation. It is the Founders curse (or blessing) that their country was to be a melting pot. Perhaps it is gor the best, at it is the cradle from which the rainbow colaition of the proletarian revolution will arise.

I don't think Leftypol likes neo-liberals bro

>oy vey goy you're not white you're a mutt!
>now redistribute the wealth of your wh.. proposition nation to third worlders
>and breed with niggers
>white girls for me though


Okay, kike.

>supported the pro-war candidate in the last election, and supported continued conflict in Syria.
You mean Trump? Or are we not keeping 400 troops in Syria indefinitely, staying in Iraq indefinitely, and actively engaging in regime change in Venezuela at this very moment?

Also, if your perception of the "left" is solely confined to college woketards, you need to pay more attention. Maybe start with the teacher strikes in WV, OK, CO, KY, etc. Or Bernie agitating for increased wages for Disney workers. Or DSA successfully running Amazon out of NYC.

>NPC response #214

brainworms

Socialism itself it an act of war.

slide it

Yes, against the rich. You're not a bootlicker, are you?

>It is the Founders curse (or blessing) that their country was to be a melting pot.
America was founded as a white nationalist nation.

>of the proletarian revolution will arise.
Your commie revolution will never take place.

mind virus

>Maybe start with the teacher strikes in WV, OK, CO, KY, etc. Or Bernie agitating for increased wages for Disney workers. Or DSA successfully running Amazon out of NYC.
These are all horrible things.

>Yes, against the rich.
Yes, against those who use capital to expand economic production to increase living standards for the working class.

You're not a bootlicker are you?

Trump ran on an anti-war platform. You know this.
Hillary ran on a saber rattling platform. You also know this.

The supposed Marxist revolutionaries hated the former and supported the latter.
You know this, too.

Bernie will immediately capitulate to the mass-immigration and neocon factions when he's in office. He doesn't even bother to put those issues in his platform.

The goyim know.

The rich never pay for socialism. The middle class pays.

>America was founded as a white nationalist nation.
It was also founded as a slave-holding nation, a liberal nation, a masonic nation, and secular nation. But Liberalism is the basis for the structuring of government, and all contradictions were eventually ironed out.

But both the far right and far left can agree that liberalism is a bankrupt political philisophy! Albeit for different reasons, of course.

>But both the far right and far left can agree that liberalism is a bankrupt political philisophy!
liberalism is a strawman, it doesn't really exist

The best political ideology is free market white nationalism.

>These are all horrible things.
Lmao, I thought you were anti-capitalist? Jesus Christ, at least read some more about the ideology you're spewing before defending fucking Amazon.

>Lmao, I thought you were anti-capitalist?
I'm not the same guy you were talking about.
I support throwing socialists from helicopters and abolishing democracy.

>before defending fucking Amazon.
They use state power to fuck over their competition but there's no reason to stop them from competing, we just need to stop the state from giving them state power to fuck over competitors that they wouldn't have in a free market.

>The supposed Marxist revolutionaries hated the former and supported the latter.
No serious Marxist ever supported Hillary, you know this.

>Bernie will immediately capitulate to the mass-immigration and neocon factions when he's in office.
Seeing as how Trump has already done this, why not give Bernie a shot? He has a proven anti-war track record in the Senate, whereas Trump was all talk and no action.

Libertarians: Lets businesses exist

Socialists: "HURR WHY ARE YOU BOOTLICKING THEM!!!?!?!"

lol

>The rich never pay for socialism
They did in the USSR, China, Cuba, etc.

airforcetimes.com/news/your-air-force/2019/02/06/air-forces-f-16-viper-demonstration-team-commander-is-the-real-captain-marvel/
airforcetimes.com/news/your-air-force/2019/02/12/first-female-viper-demo-team-pilot-relieved-after-two-weeks/

Military also contributes to movies when it portrays them in a positive light so theyll do flyovers or send a boat out to sea to film movies (top gun 2) Fuck the military nowadays, most people in are welfare queens who couldn't hack it in the real world and are in it for the welfare bucks.

this is a pretty good reason desu

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>He has a proven anti-war track record
top kek he's one of the biggest warmongerers in the senate

youtube.com/watch?v=eGByMG1HID0

No, everyone paid.
The poor and middle class were wiped out.

>liberalism is a strawman, it doesn't really exist
No, it's as real as it gets. The American Revolution was a liberal, bourgeois, anti-monarchist revolution. It was influenced and led by prominent liberals of the so-called Enlightenment.

>bourgeois
Found the marxist manchild with a nonsense ideology.

>It was influenced and led by prominent liberals of the so-called Enlightenment.
Sure liberalism existed before but it's not a real thing today.

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>votes against Iraq War
>sponsors bill to end Yemen War
Better track record than 99% of other politicians.

You can critique promotional material that glorifies imperial militaristic machine (not the first time for Marvel, btw)

>votes for a million other wars and terrible things
>voted with hillary clinton 93% of the time in the senate
>but he voted to end the iraq war so it's cool brah

Why are you leftists so clueless?

>imperialism
>neoliberalism
>bourgeois
>dialectical materialism
>trickle down economics

Do you guys get tired of using nonsense manipulative leftist buzzwords all of the time?

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>a million other wars
Only one I'm aware of was the NATO bombing of Serbia in the 90s. No, Bernie's not perfect. But he's been anti-imperialist on all the big ones.

Anyway, the point was that Bernie is far more credible as an anti-war voice than Neocon Don, which is undeniable.

I should add that in the aughts Bernie was pro-protectionism, pro-tarrifs, and against mass immigration.

He dropped that shit while Trump aggressively championed those causes. Instead he accused Trump of promoting xenophobic racism for supporting the very positions he himself took during the Bush administration.

Like I said before, the left abandoned me. Except on racial issues my positions have remain unchanged for almost twenty years. And the left pushed me into that position.

Every one of those "anarco-communist" Antifa voted for her, and shilled for her as a lesser of two evils. At least those who were old enough to vote. You know this. I know this. Everyone knows this.

>Seeing as how Trump has already done this, why not give Bernie a shot?
With Trump there was actually reason to believe he might fulfill his campaign promises. His capitulations have been reluctant, and far from total.
We have troops still in Syria, but we did not prosecute a war to level the country, as the neocon/neolibs wanted.
He's been useful on other issues as well.

I've known Bernie as a political actor for twenty years. I know exactly what to expect from him. You will be far more disappointed with him than I am with Trump.

Personally I'm in favor of social democratic white nationalism. Or a national socialism, if you will.
This is a debate I will enjoy having with you when we accomplish the goal we agree on.

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Trickle down economics is an actual thing and proven to work, though.

>Personally I'm in favor of social democratic white nationalism.
Maybe if you learned economics and actual economic history and not the kiked version you wouldn't support this absolute garbage.
FDR was the worst president America ever had.

>Only one I'm aware of was the NATO bombing of Serbia in the 90s.
The video goes into detail on the countless other wars and military operations he voted for.

>But he's been anti-imperialist on all the big ones.
lol what the fuck is imperialism, it doesn't even mean anything

>Neocon Don
He's just as bad.
At least trump is trying to end the war in syria.

Racism
Sexism
Misogyny
Tranphobia (Transmisogyny)
Ageism
Classism
Imperialism
Capitalism
White privilege
Male privilege
Eurocentric
Americacentric

Believe it or not, not all of these topics are valued equally by progressives. Some are more important than others. Some can even be supported if it means attacking others. Can you figure out the hierarchy?

>ZOG
back to your containment board(s), nazi filth

>being a consservacuck
You're the reason we're losing.
youtube.com/watch?v=VlWCnA7TbNU

>nazi filth
but I took a shower today

me too, I don't know what that guy was talking about dude

>and proven to work
the absolute delusion of mutts

>I should add that in the aughts Bernie was pro-protectionism, pro-tarrifs
He still is, you fucking idiot. He's been ragging on Trump about the "new NAFTA" (same as the old) because it doesn't go far enough.

>And the left pushed me into that position.

>t. lives in a poverty stricken shithole without economic freedom and thinks this is just fine

>FDR was the worst president America ever had.
Agreed.

>Maybe if you learned economics and actual economic history
Economic theory is essentially garbage. It has no predictive value. It is very good at just-so explanations of the past, however.

Again, let's have this discussion in the white nations. Preferably in a genial fashion.

Here's a prediction: you're mostly anglo stock.

>socialists think socialists will help the working class
the most ironic thing is voting for someone like ron paul would actually help the working class by abolishing central banking and slashing government spending so economic production can actually increase but leftists are too dumb to know this

>Economic theory is essentially garbage.
LOL
That's like saying the theory of gravity is garbage.
All economics does it tells you what is not possible.
If you knew these things about reality then you wouldn't pass such stupid economic illiterate laws.

>It has no predictive value.
Actual economics(austrian economics) has insane predictive value. For example, if you implement price controls it WILL cause shortages.

>Here's a prediction: you're mostly anglo stock.
No shit, anglos basically invented capitalism, it's in our genes

You aren’t alone bro.

It’s disgusting how they went from anti-war and anti-imperialism to “well wait DRUMPF can’t leave if the generals say no the communi... I mean, Russians will win!”

I stopped engaging with people about politics a long time ago.

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Not that user, but I’m a former bernout who came to the alt-right.

It’s hilarious talking to normies about it. They think all the Bernie voters just got in line and voted for Hillary.

Uh oh we flew a little too close to the truth there huh?

HH

Back off from my wife, /pol/cuck

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>don't worry kids, we've slashed the EPA and OSH Administration so that you can be slightly more economically productive for your billionaire lords
>it does come at a cost of your water & air being polluted and a massive increase in workplace death but that's a price we are willing to pay so we can give even more tax cuts to billionaires & megacorps

Do you have any idea who you're fucking with senpai.
Renge is a hoppean ancap, always is, always was.

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>>don't worry kids, we've slashed the EPA and OSH Administration so that you can be slightly more economically productive for your billionaire lords
Why do you assume I'm talking about these small amounts of regulations.
Also the EPA actually helps large corporations and fucks over smaller ones.
In a free market, property rights would be respected and if anyone pollutes one fucking molecule of your land you would easily be able to sue them. It used to work this way.

>water & air being polluted
The reason the water sucks is because it's not privatized.
>massive increase in workplace death
Workplace accidents were decreasing long before OSHA was created.

>even more tax cuts to billionaires & megacorps
Literally the only thing that increases living standards is economic production, real wages increase because more stuff is produced.
Why do you deny reality?

>He still is, you fucking idiot. He's been ragging on Trump about the "new NAFTA" (same as the old) because it doesn't go far enough.
It's easy to take pot shots when you're the underdog. Bernie will sign a much worse bill the first year he's in office.
And he repeatedly attacked Trump in 2016 for being protectionist. Trump bantzed Sanders for being on the same of the issue. This enraged him because he was too dishonest to admit it.

>those meany blacks
13 do 50, friend

>There was no serious pro-working-class choice in the general
Trump was the working class choice.


>“well wait DRUMPF can’t leave if the generals say no the communi... I mean, Russians will win!”
I remember the Reagan election in 1980. In my lifetime the left went from denouncing cold-war Red Baiting and complete distrust of the CIA to full-blown Russophobes and intelligence-community fanboys. They turned on a dime because the media told them to. Which they had also denounced as a tool of war profiteers and rapacious capitalists.

Welcome, brother.

Reminder that central banking needs to be abolished and socialists need free helicopter rides.

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>In a free market, property rights would be respected
By whom?

Why do libertarian arguments always have the preamble "in my perfect system I have no plan to create..."

Why is this also the argument structure of Marxist pipe dreams?

>And he repeatedly attacked Trump in 2016 for being protectionist.
Fake news. Bernie got a lot of shit from libs for being a protectionist and anti-TPP.

>13 do 50, friend
Poverty is directly correlated with crime rates. Blacks suffer greater poverty rates due to the legacy of racial heirarchy under American capitalism. Not to mention how blacks are prosecuted at far greater rates than whites for the same shit. Whitey CEO gets a slap on the wrist for getting caught with cocaine and hookers, while working class black gets 5 years in prison for an ounce of weed.
And wouldn't you say the violence wrought by the white big pharma execs on the white working class is far worse than black people robbing liquor stores? Most of those CEOs shipping jobs overseas and devastating rural white communities are...wait for it...white.

>Trump was the working class choice
Tax cuts for billionaires, privatized healthcare, welfare reform, and "socialism is evil" is pro-working class? Lmao

>By whom?
The fucking STATE, with fucking guns.
Or if you're an ancap private law, but lets not get into that since I'm not an ancap.

>"in my perfect system I have no plan to create..."
No no no.
Unlike socialists, our system has actually existed many times in history and was extremely successful.
The USA from it's creation until 1913 was essentially a free market and turned into the most economically productive country on earth with the highest real wages.

If lil donnie was anti-war, they’d be more more militaristic than the love child of Churchill and Cheney in a Soviet parade.

They've got a funny way of showing it.

>Tax cuts for billionaires, privatized healthcare, welfare reform, and "socialism is evil" is pro-working class? Lmao
Yes, all of these these things are pro working class.

>Tax cuts for billionaires
Yes, along with cutting spending(which trump isn't doing unfortunately), allows firms to increase economic production thus increasing the value of workers wages and savings by lowering prices. This is literally the only way living standards permanently increase for workers.

>privatized healthcare
Yes, back when we actually had privatized healthcare and the government wasn't heavily involved in the 50s and 60s, healthcare was incredibly cheap and nobody was left to die in the street.
Pic related.

>welfare reform
Leeches which fuck over the working class.
Remember it's "working" class.

>"socialism is evil"
Socialism is the number one thing that has fucked over the working class in all of history.

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>Not to mention how blacks are prosecuted at far greater rates than whites for the same shit. Whitey CEO gets a slap on the wrist for getting caught with cocaine and hookers, while working class black gets 5 years in prison for an ounce of weed.
Clearly these aren't "the same shit" then you fucking idiot.

based.

Private central banks. Nationalized central banks. Privatized precious metal mints and markets. ANY monetary system can be corrupted and used to extract wealth from you. Likewise any system can be made to work. The question is who's running the system.

The NSDAP did all the things you think are awful in pre-war Germany. Fiat currency. Nationalized industries. Public works projects. Price controls. And they turned their nation from "the sick man of Europe" into a economic powerhouse that threatened the market dominance of capitalist Britain in less than seven years. The system itself wasn't even that important. It's that the elites had a sense of shared blood and noblesse oblige.

>Fake news.
Sorry pal. I remember. He just didn't use the word "protectionist". Instead he said "racist and xenophobic." But the meaning was the same.
Bernie is disingenuous and a cuck. And he has contempt for the people who he's supposedly represents. It comes out when you hear him in conversation.

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>Like I said before, the left abandoned me. Except on racial issues my positions have remain unchanged for almost twenty years. And the left pushed me into that position.
Same, I remember posting on Yea Forums cheering on rioters at the g20 while they got tear gassed and LRADed live by pig cops. Today those same "anarchists/socialists" are siding with big businesses that target YTpipo and call me a boot licker. Why? Because they have rainbows on their logos during pride week and minorities in their commercials? I guess that's worth dropping the worker's revolution for.

It also deserves criticism for its hypocrisy, both the company as well as Larson herself.

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>And he has contempt for the people who he's supposedly represents. It comes out when you hear him in conversation.
We're talking about Trump here, right? The gauche billionaires who underpsys his workers, hires illegals, and has stiffed thousands of contracted workers out of any payment whatsoever?
Please. Bernie cares. You know it, everyone knows it.

>Instead he said "racist and xenophobic."
Yeah, in reference to calling Mexicans murderers and rapists and threatening to deport 11 million people, instead of naturalizing all those who have been here for years and not committed serious crimes.

This image implies that super heroes are real but we only glimpse a fraction of their essence.

>I remember posting on Yea Forums cheering on rioters at the g20 while they got tear gassed and LRADed live by pig cops.
And I worked with independent far-left media producing coverage of and propaganda for those rioters. Now those same people are using thier platform to shill for criminals and Orange Man Bad.

> I guess that's worth dropping the worker's revolution for.
I'm not a catholic but I agree with E Michael Jones on this: the left made a deal with the devil when they traded economic justice for unlimited self-indulgence.
"Your life may suck and you have no future, but you can get high and go to raves and the gay disco to forget all about it."

Your precious Mexicans belong in Mexico.

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Like a third of U.S. territory is Mexican, so...

He feels emotions. Okay? What good are emotions? He sells his supporters up the river the moment he has their money. FACT.

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>your country is really some other country!
Yeah. No.

>He sells his supporters up the river the moment he has their money.
You're right, Trump has.

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Trump has actually done quite a bit for his supporters. Two white, conservative SCOTUS appointments would be worth it if he'd done literally everything else Clinton would have.

>he thinks proxy wars are strictly and always about resources
LOL

The future of America is brown (55% of births and rising) and there is literally nothing you can do about it.

>mahf_2004

>conservative SCOTUS appointments
Gorsuch and Kavanaugh are Buch-era neocons, dumbass. Their whole careers have been about siding with capital over labor. They're capital-L liberals.

>energy beams from her hands
>can fly
Marvel has been recycling the same super powers for the last 25 years.

If you open any recent Marvel comic and there's a battle, is this all you see now?

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Not even economists agree with the 'trickle-down' thing. Most economists agree that supply-side economics is a real thing but 'trickle-down' is an oversimplification of that model. It's actually a smear term coined by liberals to ridicule supply-side economics.

If I don't want to go to prison for saying I don't want two year olds on hormones they may come in very handy.

that's topicism

Yeah, you'll be going to prison for joining a union instead!

>gloating about exterminating the people you're dependent on
Why are nonwhites so stupid?

The only unions that have any power all are public sector unions. They aren't going anywhere and they do nothing for me. Unions have been dead a long time and Bernie won't bring them back for us.

It isn't genocide if we're simply outbreeding you.

Anyone who criticised Captain Marvel for being too PC/SJW is braindead. That's the whole angle Disney went for with their advertising campaign. You honestly think Brie's "no white males" comment wasn't crafted by a PR team to cause just the right amount of outrage? You're literally giving Disney free advertising.

>Unions have been dead a long time
Yeah, and right-wingers like Trump, Gorsuch, and Kavanaugh killed them.

That's not extermination though.

>LARPing as a Mexican on the internet

Sad!

>there are no non-whites on 4channel
hmm..

no? all our shit is contained here, we barely leak out of Yea Forums. not one of us was convinced to either go see it or not go see it.

Being military propaganda is good tho

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“Lesser evil-ing” (I.e promoting voting for Hillary or other Dems) will litterally get you banned on many Socialist forums. Bernie is only barely tolerated.

>phoneposter
>reddit
Kill yourself faggot

>retarded strawman images
lmao why are bootlicker so dumb?

>Private central banks. Nationalized central banks.
It's literally all the same fucking shit. Many countries have nationalized central banks and they are still shitholes.

>ANY monetary system can be corrupted and used to extract wealth from you.
Except you know FREE BANKING in which citizens will pick whichever currency is the best and not be enslaved to one currency.
ALL central banking needs to be abolished.

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Why are you happy that people with lower IQ due to genetics are invading the country and taking over?

>Their whole careers have been about siding with capital over labor. They're capital-L liberals.
Unironically based

>Yeah, and right-wingers like Trump, Gorsuch, and Kavanaugh killed them.
Unironically based.

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>ancap weeaboo /pol/turd
quite the resume

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>he unironically thinks the capitalist has any control over the wages or working conditions of the workers
>he has no idea what the labour market is

Can't wait for the day you people are hung desu.

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This is true though, the CIA created AIDS and Ebola from experimenting on Africans. I've never seen the movie but I'm shocked they made the good guy a CIA agent, that's disgusting.

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I will rape your ass anime sissy

I accept your defeat as you are just posting ancap strawman memes now.

This memes are actually hilarious though.

Gas yourself nigger.

AIDS?

Yes.

>he unironically thinks the capitalist has any control over the wages or working conditions of the workers
pls explain or you're a memester

>defeat
It ain't Naruto boyo, at the end of the day you're still a waifufag spouting helo ride maymays based pinochet lol dreaming of a bridgeless roadless world.

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>liking militarism
Retard.

It's like saying you have full control over what you can sell your bike for on craigslist. There's a market(supply and demand) for everything including labour.

The capitalist has to pay up to the marginal revenue product for your labour or you will work for someone else. If he pays too much then he loses money and another firm comes along and outcompetes him.

Same thing applies to working conditions too as they are just compensation the capitalist has to give to the worker.
If the capitalist makes his workplace safer, he can slightly lower wages because the job is less dangerous.

Wages and working conditions increase as economic production increases.

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Sit down kid.

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Not an argument and pinochet did nothing wrong(except not being free market enough but that's a different story).

I'd really love for this angle to blow up on woke Twitter as a last minute controversy, but it will sadly never happen.

I feel bad for Egypt because it seems de Nile has moved to the US.

>he thinks market forces can't be manipulated

You can't expect much from a anime posting ancap.

But it fits because Hillary is historically the warmonger here. For all of Trump's faults, he seems restrained in the military sphere.

>>he thinks market forces can't be manipulated
No, we do think that.
They can only be manipulated by government intervention.

Without this, it's impossible to manipulate the market.

Give me one good example to counter this.

>They can only be manipulated by government intervention.
ahahahhahahahahahahhaha, capitalists dindu nuffin dey trinna put dey laif bak 2geda, goin to shursh n sheit

>They can only be manipulated by government intervention.
>Without this, it's impossible to manipulate the market.
>Give me one good example to counter this.
Soros. Rothschid.

How can they be manipulated?
I'm offering you a wage, you either take it or go somewhere else.
I can't force you to work for me dumbass.
Even if I get a few of my capitalist buddies together, there's always going to be someone else.

>ahahahhahahahahahahhaha, capitalists dindu nuffin dey trinna put dey laif bak 2geda, goin to shursh n sheit

I'm sorry, you forgot to post your argument.

>Soros. Rothschid.
Literally central bankers(government intervention).
What do you think central banking is?
Why are you proving my point?

t. amerifat

Ahahahah I love when pro-capitalists believe in the "free market" and the "perfect competition" when the only thing real capitalist do is short-cutting that free market to try to fuck competition just read Braudel lol

Lolberts always get down to their central delusions eventually.

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OP, your reverse psy-op is weak.

"Oh, maybe by criticizing Disney and Captain Marvel, we're playing into their hands, so lets stop criticizing them".

Fuck off mouse dick sucker.

!!!FACT!!!

It gets worse. When you take libertarianism to its "logical conclusions" you find in yourself in a very strange place.

hurryupharry.org/2013/05/12/anarchodepravity/

>How can they be manipulated?
By expanding the labor market with immigration. Putting regulations to prevent new competition. Having a nedlessly complicated justice system in order to force newcommers to either adapt and stay in line or die.

>Ahahahah I love when pro-capitalists believe in the "free market" and the
Yes, when scientists believe in science and logic it must anger you cultists lol.

>"perfect competition"
No libertarian or austrian economics has ever accepted "perfect competition".
mises.org/wire/why-perfect-competition-not-so-perfect

>when the only thing real capitalist do is short-cutting that free market to try to fuck competition
Can you give me one fucking example that isn't a government intervention?
You have no argument lol

>Braudel
Literally who?

>no argument
>strawmanning rothbard

>Socialism itself it an act of war.

THEN DON'T DRIVE ON MY FUCKING STREETS OR DRINK WATER CLEANED USING MY TAX DOLLARS FUCKING PARASITE SCUM AND GO FUCK YOURSELF!!!FACT!!!

I don't have to argue against idiotic statements. I will just laugh at them.

>Literally central bankers(government intervention).
Hmmm, so those private individuals acting on behalf of their own self interest, who possess capital and investments worldwide, are actually government entities and LITERALLY CENTRAL BANKS!!!

The amount of mental gymnastics a kikebertarian has to go trough...

>excerpt from his own book
>strawmanning

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Literally the ONLY criticism of free markets you have is this one strawman argument of rothbard.
Like 99% of the other stuff you can't touch because you'd get rekt.
Enjoy your central banks though, you loved being enslaved you cuckold.

>By expanding the labor market with immigration.
This is a completely different issue and you brought it up because you couldn't answer the question of how they could manipulate it in a normal labour market environment.

Also btw most libertarians support closed borders.

>Putting regulations to prevent new competition.
Yes, government intervention, thanks for proving my point.

>Having a nedlessly complicated justice system in order to force newcommers to either adapt and stay in line or die.
Government.
Man you're pathetic, get new arguments.

>libertarianism to its "logical conclusions"
One of those, which libertarians try their hardest to hide, is free movement of labor , i.e. open borders.

A political ideology based on increasing the freedom of business can't possibly maintain one of the largest regulations they have.

>Pump and dump (Enron)
>Insider trading
There are more of course

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Thats a bad one, but the weird anything goes attitude towards very young children is what disturbs me. If we make it criminal to sell drugs to kids the pay outcome is Hitler and Stalin will return to gas us all with big government.

>Enjoy your central banks though, you loved being enslaved you cuckold.

? The existence of a central bank doesn't make me a slave.

No austrian or libertarian agrees with rothbard on this and I think he was just high when he wrote that shit.
Either way enjoy your low hanging fruit.

>THEN DON'T DRIVE ON MY FUCKING STREETS OR DRINK WATER CLEANED USING MY TAX DOLLARS
What does this have to do with socialism?
Also the government forces me to use these things or die.
I'm going to use them.

>I don't have to argue
HAHAHAHA
Oh boy, translation: I have no argument and I am mad.
This is pathetic, you have nothing at all and can't refute anything I'm saying.
Bootlicking faggot lol

>so those private individuals acting on behalf of their own self interest, who possess capital and investments worldwide, are actually government entities and LITERALLY CENTRAL BANKS!!!
Are you speaking of typical banks or central banks?
What are you even talking about?
Private banks certainly benefit from central banks, and central banks themselves are evil.

Yet you support them because you're a cuckold.

>The amount of mental gymnastics a kikebertarian has to go trough...
Fucking listen to yourself cumdrinker.

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This seems pretty extreme. Employers/ management have 0 discretion over pay?

Fuck off Poland, Yea Forums is a proud russian board.

>>Pump and dump (Enron)
>what is government intervention
>what is a government granted monopoly
This is pathetic lol.
mises.org/library/real-scandal-enron
mises.org/library/enron-one-year-later
mises.org/library/myths-about-enron

>I'm totally fine with my wages and savings losing value and living standards for the working class remaining stagnant.
Get a load of this good goy.

They do have some, they can only pay within a small range determined by the market, there are definitely hard limits though.

You know how we stop bad actors from exploiting the system? We get rid of the system! Haha your move, rent-seekers!

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me on the left

>CIA trains nigger and white man
>the nigger turns rogue and commits crime while the white man has to stop him
uh oh

I keep seeing this low iq image floating around by low iq statists with third world genetics such as yourself.

Every single one of those companies listed gets special privileges from the government and libertarians have been fighting against them while leftist shitters say absolutely nothing.

Especially comcast, you people are totally fine with local governments granting them monopolies all over the country and restricting their competition.

>Here are sources from my ancap forum
ahah

You have conveniently ignored the insider trading point btw

>Literally central bankers(government intervention)
>Literally central bankers(government intervention).
Central banks in all countries except Cuba, North Korea and Iran are privately owned institutions that create money from thin air, lend it to governments and proceed to take interest on their loan. Government officials have only advisory positions when it comes to actual central bank policy and decisions. Central banks only answer to BIS, bank for international settlements which "fosters international monetary and financial cooperation and serves as a bank for central banks"... and is owned by the same family that owns the banks themselves.

>insider trading
>bad

mises.org/library/insider-trading-really-crime
mises.org/library/free-market-approach-insider-trading

You have conveniently ignored the refutations to the enron """""""point"""""" btw

One of the big differences between Carol and Steve is that Carol loves military authority whereas Steve questions it.

Curiously, the leads of Phase 4, with the exception of Spidey, are all authoritarians: Carol, T'challa, and Strange are all "establishment" types.

>Central banks in all countries except Cuba, North Korea and Iran are privately owned institutions
Why does this matter whatsoever.

Libertarians fight for a free market.
The government gives a tiny monopoly of a people the right to issue the currency of these countries and backs it up with violent force.
This is government coercion, this is what we advocate against.
It's completely irrelevant if they are private or not, that isn't even the point.
We want free banking.

You leftists are still cool with private central banks though and never talk about it.
Cumdrinker.

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Yeah because the left just fucking loves Comcast, AT&T, Verizon and the military industrial complex.

>I'm totally fine with my wages and savings losing value and living standards for the working class remaining stagnant.

Thats not really true. Wages have always tracked inflation throughout history. By most measures were richer than ever. For most of American history, pre or post Federal Reserve, no one has ever had very much in the way of savings. If you're rich and have lots of savings in cash, I can understand why inflation might be annoying. But for working people inflation is only issue if it's some type of runaway and unpredictable variety like in the 70's or the American Cvil War.

>Central banks in all countries except Cuba, North Korea and Iran are privately owned institutions

It's not, it's an odd conspiracy. This person seems to have an obsession with the existence of central banks and views them as a kind of personal affront to his/herself despite a poor understanding of what they do or how they work.

>Poverty is directly correlated with crime rates. Blacks suffer greater poverty rates due to the legacy of racial heirarchy under American capitalism.
Poorest White Neighborhoods have less crime than the richest Black neighborhoods.

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Woke. :/

They say absolutely nothing against their government granted monopolies and think that net neutrality is going to fix everything lol
wired.com/2013/07/we-need-to-stop-focusing-on-just-cable-companies-and-blame-local-government-for-dismal-broadband-competition/

Did you just link John Mcintosh here?

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>Wages have always tracked inflation throughout history.
Real wages have stagnated since nixon got us off the gold standard in 1970.
You used to be able to support a family and your wife on a job right out of high school. Now this is basically impossible.

>no one has ever had very much in the way of savings
Savings rates AND economic growth rates were higher before the federal reserve.

>But for working people inflation is only issue
It's always an issue, your living standards stagnate and it becomes harder and harder to save for retirement .
You can basically NEVER retire without gambling in the stock market or something and are forced to rely on the government.

>It's not, it's an odd conspiracy.
You forgot to quote that guy.

Redpill me on the JQ

Why do (((redpilled))) right wingers defend government granted monopolies?

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>that scene where she gleefully flattened a middle eastern school with JDAMs
wow, they sure went hardcore
did Raimi wrote the script?

>Real wages have stagnated since nixon got us off the gold standard in 1970.

Depends on how you measure them. There's household income, individual income, hourly wages, yearly salaries, non income benefits etc. The idea that only the rich have gained since 1973 is probably wrong. By some wages have not grown very much, by others we have done better.

minneapolisfed.org/publications/the-region/where-has-all-the-income-gone

Regardless, there is as much causal link between the gold standard(really Bretton Woods) with wages as there is anything else. The USA started favoring free trade much more, governments were unions were less pro union at the time as well. Those aren't necessarily the cause of anything. This seems to be a cause-correlation fallacy.

>Savings rates AND economic growth rates were higher before the federal reserve.

Thats also not true. The image I found comes from something called Talmarkets and is based on BEA data. It goes back to 1900. I was unable to find anything of hand that showed savings rates from the 19th century. However, it seems somewhat implausible that savings rates were higher in the 19th century than the 20th given income levels and wealth. If you have information on this i would be interested in looking at it.

>economic growth

I looked at two data sates on GDP per capita over the long run. Measuringworth.com and the Angus Maddison world history set.

From 1800-1913 GDP per capita grew at 1.3% according to MW. The Maddison data revealed the same rate of growth. Growth was slightly lower going back to 1775.

From 1913 to 2018 growth was 1.9% based on the MW data and the Madison data at 1.7%.

This does not necessarily vindicate the Fed(conversely if growth was lower that wouldn't damn it either). the Fed cannot push growth beyond the production possibilities frontier. Growth is derived from technology, business practices, and public polices like eduction or science.

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>monopolies couldn't possibly exist without governments
>capital and wealth could never accrue into a few private hands without government
>i could never be the serf of an ownership class if there was no government
>dehumanizing bureaucracies would never form in the absence of government


You talk about abolishing "government" as if it's some dragon to slay. Not an institution made of people. If muh gubumnt vanished overnight institutions functioning exactly like a government would solidify power in less than 12 months. Except shittier because they would be more self-serving, more mercenary, and the institutional memory would be gone.

Ask a pilot what would happen to air traffic without Flight Service.
Ask a radio operator what would happen to the usable RF spectrum without band plan enforcement.
Ask an epidemiologist what would happen to the food supply without USDA inspection.
Libertarians have no fucking idea what functions their governments even perform.

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>The idea that only the rich have gained since 1973 is probably wrong.
it's not pic related

>This seems to be a cause-correlation fallacy.
In the late 1800s when we were on an actual gold standard with free banking, we had the highest growth rates in world history, real wages increased for decades.
This would never happen now.

>Thats also not true.
This image only goes back to 1900 and is deeply flawed as it shows during ww2 there was massive savings lol

>GDP per capita
totally useless measurement

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>someone makes a thread a few days ago showing how rotten tomatoes deleted all of captain marvels interest score and changed it from a negative to a positive
>thread full of (they) did this posts
>i post a pic of merchant man rubbing his hands together
>get banned across all boards for 3 days "racist" posts


Disney owns this board theyre watching everything we put up.

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I mean, it's nearing the end of his first term and so far he hasn't put America into any new conflict, despite his confrontational rhetoric. In fact, he's actually negotiating with North Korea and made the left go all REEEEEEE about pulling troops out of Syria. The only place where America might actually get in a war may be Venezuela but things look more like America will fund a military coup there or something.

>>capital and wealth could never accrue into a few private hands without government
I never once said this.
Capital accumulation is a good thing and if a few people's firms are extremely productive, it's a good thing they have loads of money.

>>i could never be the serf of an ownership class if there was no government
How?
The existence of the capitalists causes economic production to increase.
If the workers were to take over the means of production it wouldn't benefit them, the money they take from the capitalists will only cause price increases.
When the capitalists save their money it's a good thing because it causes a downward pressure on prices which benefits consumers(the working class)

>>dehumanizing bureaucracies would never form in the absence of government
this but unironically

>If muh gubumnt vanished overnight institutions functioning exactly like a government would solidify power in less than 12 months.
Explain how and don't just use your feelings.
Tell me how the logic of this would work.

>Ask a pilot what would happen to air traffic without Flight Service.
Why can't privatized versions of this exist?

>Ask a radio operator what would happen to the usable RF spectrum without band plan enforcement.
Band plans are PROPERTY and thus WILL be enforced by the state.

>Ask an epidemiologist what would happen to the food supply without USDA inspection.
Competing third party agencies would take over and people would avoid food providers that weren't licensed.
>Libertarians have no fucking idea what functions their governments even perform.
Seeing how we've written countless books on every subject you've mentioned, you're wrong.

>How?
Nigga never even read The Jungle holy fuck.
In b4 commie propaganda chicago stockyards were paradise industrial child labor is good for kids the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory fire was an inside job.

>it's not pic related
The Fed existed before 1972 though, and we were not on a true gold standard. In fact, we weren't even on a true gold standard for most of American history. We had a bimetallic standard and in fact some people thought the gold standard was a conspiracy.

>In the late 1800s when we were on an actual gold standard with free banking, we had the highest growth rates in world history, real wages increased for decades.

By what measure? We also really didn't have free banking after the Civil War. This is era is generally knowns as the "national banking" era when the Federal government became much more involved.

>real wages increased for decades.

They'e continued to grow.

>This would never happen now.

Why?

>totally useless measurement

Again, why? How are you meaning growth?

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>people appropriating a percentage of the your income is actually good for you goy, listen to me!

Because we're not under the sway of civilization-destroying ideologies concocted by Jews.

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>The Jungle
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Man I love having refutations to every single fucking thing you people spew, it's so great.
The jungle was a FICTION book.
Do you base your economic policy off harry potter?
The writer of the jungle never stepped foot inside a meat packing plant.
youtube.com/watch?v=oQfpvQKUodY
fee.org/articles/of-meat-and-myth/
wiki.mises.org/wiki/Meat_packing

>industrial child labor is good for kids
It is when given the alternatives.
Child labour was a fact of reality for all human history, it wasn't until capitalism came along and rose the productivity of parents that they could escape poverty and make it so their children didn't have to work.
The government didn't do shit, this happened long before the government stepped in and did essentially nothing.
Child labour laws are so incredibly fucking evil in third world countries, they cause children to either go into prostitution or starve to death.

>The Fed existed before 1972 though
yes but we were on the bretton woods system and the dollar was still tied to gold
getting off this system meant the government could print as much money as they wanted

>In fact, we weren't even on a true gold standard for most of American history.
Face it, for large chunks of it, we were.

>We also really didn't have free banking after the Civil War.
Yes, I'm talking about after the civil war until 1913.

>This is era is generally knowns as the "national banking" era when the Federal government became much more involved.
Wow I love this retarded propaganda.

>They'e continued to grow.
Growth rates were in the double digits every year back then.
Now we're lucky to brake 0.02

Yes, clearly every single one of these people agreed with everything each other believed lmao retard

Mises and Rothbard supported white nationalism, are you somehow against white nationalism?

It's not, you're the one that supports taxes.
Unless you're talking about magic "surplus value" in that case lol.

To live in any community in your libertarian utopia you would have to pay a fee to maintain its vital infrastructure. It's a covenant community so this would be voluntary. You can leave any time. But the world is stil populated. Everywhere you could go except the wilderness is also a covenant community so you're going to have to pay the fee wherever you are.

You want to go homestead in the wilderness then? Fine. But the wilderness is private property. It's claimed as a game and hunting preserve by Big Boar Land Holdings Inc. And BBLH defends against your aggressive incursion into their property. With force of arms.

You are not ever going to be free of social obligation, or having to pay in to live somewhere. Government or not. Your libertarianism is a last-man-on-earth fantasy. The kind most people stopped taking seriously when they were 16.

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>civilization-destroying
ok kid

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>this brainlet honestly believes a free market equals lockean property norms and any retard can just claim vast areas of land because muh feels
>hurrr what is active use

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a whole lot of things make sense now

Please explain how libertarianism is can be credited with the industrial revolution.

>getting off this system meant the government could print as much money as they wanted

They've always been able to do that, not just since 1972/3. Lincoln printed his own greenbacks in the Civil War.

>Face it, for large chunks of it, we were.

1873-1913 is the time period when the USA was closest to a true gold standard. No silver, no fiat.

>Yes, I'm talking about after the civil war until 1913.

Generally not considered the fee banking hay day.

>Wow I love this retarded propaganda.

link.springer.com/chapter/10.1057/9780230295131_4

>Growth rates were in the double digits every year back then. Now we're lucky to brake 0.02

By what measure(s)? Who was keeping tabs on this?

>yes but we were on the bretton woods system and the dollar was still tied to gold
>getting off this system meant the government could print as much money as they wanted
Oh god, you're clueless. There was as much credit expansion in Bretton Woods gold standard as today.

Why is Ayn Rand even in the picture?

The United States basically had a free market with NO CENTRAL BANK through their industrial revolution. Businesses actually had the capital to mass produce things they simply couldn't before, they were left alone to do this.
They had the highest wages in the world.
Stay mad.

Why did it go through the roof when the gold standard was abolished?

wtf I love central banks and corporate enslavement now

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No they can claim property because muh guns and muh private police force. Force is how property is always claimed. Big Boar Land Holdings has a lot more men and guns than you do.

Again, your ideology is a last-man-on-earth scenario.

You also have zero plan for establishing this order.

Libertarianism is exactly like commie "when the revolution comes..." larping.

I also despise Jewish-controlled central banking. You want to throw babies out with bathwater because you're married to an ideology based entirely on abstractions.

You seriously think the WASPs and their London "cousins" have turned effective control of the global banking industry over to Jews?

Learn to tell the servants from the masters. A butler is not master of the house- he just tells the other servants what to do..

Leftists and left sympathizing parties have been behind almost every war in the last 100 years. The American democrats, while not truly leftists but left sympathizers, have caused the deaths of tens of millions since the start of this century

Geez, I wonder why the left protested against all these wars.

I'm more disgusted by the author than the woman he's profiling.

I don't know what's funnier. The idea that you believe that, or the idea you don't believe that but think I might.

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Sauce? Big if true

This level of revisionism is appalling.

If you break them up you’re called anti-freemarket or a socialist. If you leave them alone you’re called a corporate stooge. There’s literally no point in having this debate.

>We should instead be attacking
Fuck off you based retard
If Yea Forums were smart for once you would let a forgettable thing be a forgettable thing, instead of giving everything you hate so much damn publicity
Ever heard the saying, "There is no such thing as bad publicity". All you do is boost the things you hate

You're correct but there is an enormous full time disinformation campaign running to "correct the record" about this sort of thing and you're most likely going to end up arguing with it. You might have better uses of your time than debating a brick wall, but good for you on spreading the truth.

Ayn Rand is the worst thing to happen to Capitalism in history.

"All these mad nazi incels who cant handle a strong woman killing the poorest of third worlders and then inviting their angry cousin over to rape her"

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I literally cannot believe there are people in here who are anti war? Fucking gutless pigs, you couldn't face the world if everything went to shit, war is the only way we can establish American dominance and of the left wants to fight wars than I'm good with it, those gutless hippies in Vietnam war made us lose a war that would've been war. A bunch of faggots in here pretending to be right wing and being anti war is a god damn joke.

"we stand by and sit quietly during democrats' wars while doing lipservice we disagree with them while agreeing with 90% of their agenda"

no true scotsman and "it wasnt real leftism" forever

go false flag your imagined enemy somewhere else

>jew: hey let's do a socialism on the middle class and the rich right beneath me

>also jew: i can pay for tax loopholes and offshore accounts

>also jew: hey im 50% of the party power what a coincidence

great, now we have a tyranical government with only poverty and racialized redistribution (as the rich socialist jew says, "white people dont know whats like to be poor" even though they're the majority of the poor)

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Kek

>as the rich socialist jew says, "white people dont know whats like to be poor"
Oh shit yeah I forgot all about that one.

Bern's patronizing contempt when he speaks to members of his actual constituency is a thing to behold.

I liked him until then.

him cucking to the 2 black girls was bad, but this was the moment I realized the "but x isnt a REAL leftist" shit was nonsense and I began to notice weird shit

You realize that people who push the "punch up" shit are way too high up to be reached

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