Ahem

But he never said that. Why are you projecting?

Ripley, arguable. At least Aliens Ripley.
Sarah Connor, no. Sarah Connor starts weak and scared as shit. She has to be carried by Reese, sometimes literally, through the whole first movie and only wins by luck. She got nothing for free.

Current Year female "heroes" just start as self-righteous cunts with no weaknesses and stay that way the whole time.

Lack of better options.

he said he hates current year women, meaning he prefers women from previous generations, which raises the case that he thinks he is a suitable partner for those women. why are you confused?

they would be handled and marketed differently because of the climate we live in

It’s so funny how portraying female characters with flaws or weaknesses is seen as sexist, basically if your lead isn’t a Mary Sue you’re a misogynistic shitlord

Shut the fuck up, you bait posting ass nigga.
(1/10) made me post.

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Not true.

the men to women ratio hasn't seen a change in throughout almost all of history, do you think 50 years ago there were no men around so women latched onto the first retard they saw or something?

He never said he hated current year women, and even if it did that doesn’t automatically mean he prefers women of previous generations, and even if it did he never said or implied he saw himself as a suitable partner for those women. You are making massive fucking leaps based on your own preconceptions of who that poster is.

Shut up bitch

he's not confused, he's just being disingenuous to own the libs

I would disagree, in fact I would even disagree at myself for disagreeing because we would never know. All these are just assumptions, not fact. Unless Lisa Simpsons could provide evidence or an analytic approach towards her claim, I just don't see how her argument could stand.

>Ripley, arguable. At least Aliens Ripley.

I doubt that immensely only because she was in a horror movie for her first outing and that's where she 'evolved'. I don't know if you've noticed, audiences aren't exactly shocked and calling discrimination when women are the sole survivors of horror films. The rest of the stuff about her does help, she struggles the opponent is unstoppable unless you outwit it and she's not able to just punch it to death, but simply put horror movies where females are the lead and ultimately claim victory over these unkillable monsters is just expected at this time. It remains that way even today, and I don't see it changing.

Horror has always been the progressive genre they said they wanted, but you can't expect the next version of crying church ladies to like horror.

If Sigourney Weaver went on national TV and said "I don't give a fuck about white people's opinions, don't review my movies or ask me about them"
Then you might have a point.
But it was Brie who said that dumb shit, and acts surprised theres a backlash.

Ripley and Connor both had an arc they were dynamic characters that felt like real people. They had flaws and made mistakes, they weren't perfect little Mary Sues who always get what they want without effort who are always right, and are so much better than every other character because "le gurrl power XD"

spbp

>>you hate current year women
>>therefore you hate all women
he implied he hates current year women in his own post but keep being a willfully ignorant retard

>hating hollyjew female characters mean hating all women
Again, interesting presumption

If my doubles came out today you would be checking them

No, he was saying that’s what OP was saying.

>continuing this argument again
>thread getting hijacked by Sn33dposters
You are so fucking stupid.

mostly this

Having a female sole survivor at the ending of a horror movie is pretty much a genre staple, and has come to be almost expected.

no he was taking what OP was saying and applying it to himself, correcting OP's assumptions ie he doesn't hate all women he just hates current year women
i fucking hate illiterate people

Sn33d

No because Sarah Connor and Ripley were badasses because they weren't blatant mary sues

Except he never said any of this, you’re just assuming it because you have crafted a notion of who he is that you refuse to deviate from. None of your inferences are remotely justified by the text of the actual post.

LETS SAY THATS TRUE

NOW WHO IS TO BLAME FOR THE CLIMATE

IS IT NAGGY FEMINISTS SHOVELING THEIR TOXIC MAN HATING ONTO EVERYTHING IN >THE CURRENT YEAR

EVENTUALLY THERE WILL BE A REACTION

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yeah signourney weaver looks like a titless moot

The ratio hasn't changed but womens ability to access a far greater pool of men has.

Actually my point was mostly referring to how women are portrayed in the media in current year.
I wouldn't actually try to suggest that all women no matter where are the same

>None of your inferences are remotely justified by the text of the actual post.
>>you hate current year women
>>therefore you hate all women
>he says in plain text that just because OP thinks he hates all women on the basis that he hates current year women it isn't true, he just hates current year women
how are you so stupid?

I thought this meant "came out" as gay and was really confused.

HE NEVER FUCKING SAID HE HATES ANY WOMEN, YOU DUMB FUCK. YOU ARE READING INTO THE POST SOMETHING HE NEVER SAID. FUCK OFF.

what if the guatemalan car was portrayed as german?

so you agree that you are inherently undesirable but you wish for women's pool of choices in regards to men to be smaller so they almost unwillingly have to partner you
pathetic desu

if ripley and sarah connor came out now, they would be very very badly written, just like Rey and Carol Danvers

unequivocally BASED

bruh have you seen the alita threads. its all pathetic waifu worshipping

>physically seething because you have a reading disability

checked

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Why is it wrong to be selfish and to want special treatment?

Women consider 80% of all men undesirable by default.

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based

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Welp

>insist an user said something he literally did not say
>accuse others of having a reading disability
18+

What kind of argumentation is this style?

Incels BTFO

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you're a big GET

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You were making an equally erroneous assumption based on your personal biases
Like I wrote, my comment was in regards to how women are portrayed in current year
Real life women are more diverse than current year hollywood wants to portray them as

INCELS BTFO UNTIL THE END OF TIME

fucking roastie getting all those digits. Sad!

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checked and check these

>feminists ruin gender relations with identity politics and demonetization of everything male

>lol why do men not want to support our propaganda program anymore?

Formerly Men (MtF)

TOP TIER STACHE

REALLY WORKS WHEN HE DOES THE WHITEPPO SMIRK AT THE END

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Incels eternally BTFO

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chucked

If Rey or Carol Danvers said they were men while doing nothing else differently, you would have no choice but to meekly agree despite knowing it was a lie.

There is literally nothing wrong with this.

based and 777777pilled

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>Ripley fought for her daughter
>Sarah Connor fought for his son
feminist don't push for that narrative only if the girl is a minority of course.

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REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
FUCKING STACIES GETTING ALL THE CHADDIGITS AND LEAVING NONE FOR INCELS
FUCK YOU HIROSHIMOOT AND FUCK ROASTIES

how will incels ever recover from this?

I love toasted roasties, it makes my day better

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Yo, these incels finna boutta be dabbed on.

I dont remember alien being marketed with
>ripley doesnt need men to see her movie! Back off woman haters.

>REEEE WOMEN GO FOR THE RICH MAN THAT HAS THE MONEYY
>REEE WOMEN GO FOR THE GOOD FOR NOTHING THAT HAS NO JOB OR SOCIAL STABILITY
I swear, you guys should pick which one it is but you act indecesive as fucking women. I swear men like this are the ones killing society.

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Ummm care to explain this, roasties?

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atleast it wasn't sneed

CHECKED

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L O N D O N

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It's not a criticism of the choice for wealth and stability
It's about women's hatred for their best interest solely based on it not being their personal choice

>It's about women's hatred for their best interest solely based on it not being their personal choice
What the fuck are you even talkjng about.

>fantasize about meeting a guy who's personality matches mine, that we complete each other, soulmates, two sides of the same coin, and all that shit
>its wrong because you don't want to be with a stinky retard because he has money and will also extract the life out of you
no thank you

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If you actually believe that then you fundamentally don't know what makes female characters good or bad.

4th grade reading level right here.

If you're incapable of comprehending human nature and its fallacies just shut up and people won't take you for an idiot

based Stacy BTFO'ing tf out of incels

so now i'm phallic because i don't want to be forced to date a creep?

you implied women hate their best interests because its not their personal choice, and i explained to you why being forced to be with someone who doesn't complete me is not in my best interest. you are the one who can't read.

incels completely destroyed

Based and stacypilled

>Sarah Connor and Ripley have no special powers and are victorious through cunning, strength, and conviction. Both learn from important men in their lives(Reese and Hicks).

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I haven't seen incels get this obliterated in a while. Today is a good day.

You really got upset because the anime nazi girl found it hypocritical for women to both hate and lust for power and wealth based on their choice in the matter

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The hole style.

STACYS ARE THE NEW CHADS
INCELS CONTINUE TO STINK

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>Female Chuck is black
BASED

My Fathers Deck has no Bad Cars

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Chads rise up

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Kek (笑´・艸・) C’mon babes ... All Men are so darn oppressed in the real life. Sooo let ‘em have breathing space just a little bit !!!

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>second in command of a space ship barely escapes with her panties on
>some dowdy waitress who gets rescued by a man from the future
>both of these women would be hated today
LMAO NOPE

Alright, fellow 4channelers, I'll do it: I'll save this thread. Here I go:
>S
N
>E
E
>D

The fact that you can automatically know she's laughed at and rejected tons of men because of their height, hair, dick size and such, yet goes on this rant makes it funnier.

LMAO good luck trying to get this meme off the ground. I don't think it has much potential though.

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Sneed

Their characters are badass and have flaws and make you want to root for them
Also I'm pretty sure their actresses didn't have a motormouth

Nice bait. Ripley and Sarah Conner are amazing characters in timeless movie classics that are probably some of my favorite movies. Brie Larson is some dumb skank on an eternal period starring in some bland cash grab movie.

Okay why are "manbabies" recommending people go see Alita battle angel instead of captain marvel, then?

>Didn't you know? Weebs and anime fans only like Japanese pop culture because it is socially conservative and at odds with our progressive liberal values

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*huff* *puff* FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK I'M LATE TO THE SNEED'S THREAD AGAIN

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Formerly Chuck's thread

DESPITE HAVING ONLY 13% OF THE SEED

wasted tranny discord digits

>hating characters with actual character
Nice try, Disney!

based stacey

this, the studios will eventually learn

also trump cut off the sjw brainwashing money obama was giving out, these studios have to actually make money now

The difference is that Ripley and Connor are driven by a motherly instinct to be strong for their children's protection. It feels real and believable.

Everyone loves the Alita movie. Checkmate

that's wrong and Alita is proof

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*wheezes like a dying man*
DID YOU KNOW THAT DESPITE ONLY HAVING LESS THAN ONE THOUSANDTH OF ALL ELEPHANTS IN AMERICA FARMER #1 IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MAJORITY OF ELEPHANT RELATED CRIMES

This. No one has any problems with female characters. Also, sneed

holy c*rap

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who's carol danvers?

Well back then there wasn't also loads of feminist bullshit in real life like women being forced into the fucking infantry and shit.

If retarded bitches and white knights had kept their power fantasies out of real life maybe fiction wouldn't have been shitted up with identity politics too.

>characters defined by their relationships and concern for other characters vs bland soulless power fantasies
she's right though, I'd be mad up until they point they can make a Claudette Colbertbot

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Very few people on Yea Forums unironically complain about the characters in Annihilation so no

funny it didn't get a nod as the Oscars

probably some people would still bitch, it's the internet, but they are in good movies not shitty remakes and capeshits

Wrong. Racial and gender politics was amazing in the 80s and 90s. It deteriorated in the late 00s and now the 10s are essentially hell.

Everyone loved Will Smith in Prince or Xena. Hell some of the most iconic and strongest female characters are from the 80s/90s. Tons of shows with all black casts were hugely popular back in the day.

Ask yourself who did this.

flavorful

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freaking based
please don't include me in the screenshot

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These days, it's not enough for the entertainment media to say, women and brown people good. They also must say, men and whites bad.

Sauce

Both showed actual vulnerability and experienced failure, so not really.

this
never heard anyone complain about buffy
or beverley hills cop
they were great fun
they couldn't be made now, and not because of "manbabies," or "racists," but because it would have to be a festival of shitting on white males from beginning to end, especially in things like press releases and promo shit and paid "reviews"
where once the scene would've had a quip everyone could enjoy, now there would have to be a "teaching moment" that makes half the audience nod approvingly and the other half roll their eyes and sigh
can we ever go back to when things were simple fun?
because these fucks will NEVER be satisfied
even if somehow all white men went away, there are still white women, and black males
and even if those went away, there are non-disabled and cis-people who aren't checking their privilege
hopefully we'll see a resurgence of kids being edgy instead of joining pc mobs, and that'll lead back to common sense values

>you would be mad to have well written and flawed female characters in well written and directed films
nah nigga
nah

based

Yea Forums finally btfo /r9k/

>do you think 50 years ago there were no men around so women latched onto the first retard they saw or something?
There was a dearth of men after WWII.

Based and true. Also Sneed

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Feminists_by_religion

Remember when Sigourney Weaver said fuck all white men. They shouldn't review or see my movie, I don't. Also, I have no problem with Rey or Daisy Ridley. I blame Kathleen Kennedy

>Remember when Sigourney Weaver said fuck all white men
I remember that moment fondly. Other than Farmers #1 and #2, whites are a fucking plague.

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Pilpul
Pilpul
youtube.com/watch?v=PKUYkeb92hk
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pilpul
>Pilpul has entered English as a colloquialism used by some to indicate extreme disputation or casuistic hairsplitting
Incidentally pilpul is what makes Seinfeld funny.

Dies Irae

based AF

jewish

If Aliens was made today:
>Hicks and Apone would be merged into one male love interest played by Idris Elba
>Vasqeuz would be a lesbian
>The little girl would be an ugly mutt like the one in Hereditary or Quiet Place
>The aliens only attacked the colony because of Climate Change
>Instead of being foreshadowed earlier, the Powerloader would just show up at the very end with Ripley automatically knowing how to pilot it
>Bishop would be trans
>Burke would be the only white male in the group and 300% more scumbag
>In fact at one point Ripley would almost peacefully communicate with the Queen only for the moment to be ruined by Burke's corporate shenanigans

>1 post by this ID

>tfw you were here to see /pol/ driven from Yea Forums

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FINALLY

Don't be surprised when it doesn't stick, transfags.

We have Alita generals, OP.

>didn't even know Ripley was the "main character" on release of Alien

Fuck off.

Nobody hates Rey and the only hate the actress who plays Ms. Marvel because she shoots her mouth off at the core audience of her shit.

>Nobody gave a fuck until (((politics))) was pushed into every (((circus)))
>It's the fault of the people who can see the (((circus))) for what it is that said (((circuses))) are now (((politicized)))

I'm not kidding, the term NPC is thrown around a lot today. But at no point have I seen it be more apt than now. You are literally fucking brain dead.

Notice they don't even try to make a real argument. It's just tug tug on the fee fees.

based

Honestly men are pretty ugly on average

Damn... I respect women now. Anyone else wanna smash the cisheteronormative patriarchy with me?

formerly pee pees

Thanks

Wtfffffffffff
I'm glad someone read my posts

Cringe

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>sneed poster can actually center the text
>retard OP can't
BASED

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read this at first glance as "if Ripley and Sarah Connor came out as manbabies today", liked it better for that split second.

Fake.
Lisa wouldn't make such basic grammatical errors.
There should be a comma after "today".
Stop watching TV and read a book.

of my fr*ck. absolutely based

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underrated

Sneed is a proud and strong black woman.

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Incels BTFO YET AGAIN
based
Logic, stay triggered

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What?

Ripley survives Alien through sheer luck. She's not some all powerful gurl power character. If they sent her into the air ducts with the flame thrower she'd be dead too. In Aliens she becomes a little badass because she understands what the monsters can do and is mentally prepared for them. Also, again, she probably only lives because the monsters take down everyone else first.

Sarah Connor is a damsel in distress in the first movie who only manages to crush the terminator in the very end after her lover died trying to blow it up with a pipe bomb. Reese already did 50% of the work. Sarah Connor then manages to find herself in the right situation to press the button and crush it. In Terminator 2 Sarah Connor has been incarcerated as an insane person after spending the intervening years stockpiling weapons and getting ready for the apocalypse. She's trained her body and mind to be ready for judgement day. She's badass, but not capeshit badass. She's a very realistic character who doesn't display any over the top badassery. Super well done character.

If you compare Ripley and Sarah Connor to characters like Rey, Captain Marvel, etc, it's night and day. Ripley and Sarah Connor go through hell to gain their badass traits and even then they're not all powerful, they just have a leg up over most other people because they've experienced what's going on before.

Yet, they still date them

The plot of Aliens is literally mom's fight.
Human mom vs alien mom

Well said

>Ripley
>Sarah Connor
literally who

sneed

Not arguing. Genuinely curious. What about MCU Captain Marvel is misandrist in a way that doesn't apply to the Alien(s) or Terminator franchises.... or even just the early movies?

Granted, we haven't seen much of the film at all, but what's there seems to be pretty standard capeshit faire, and not any more political/feminist than what OP mentioned.

chuck

If E-I-E-I-(Annoyed Grunt) came out today Moeposter would like it as much as baneposting.

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Brie Larson has said, and even worse, tweeted things that upset alt-right incel manbabies.

the difference is alien and terminator are great movies, and the other is MCU trash.

>commit half the violent crime
>create a social climate where whites have to walk on egshells
>"how dare they smile in ways I don't like"

Fuck niggers.

>incel manbabies
Is this really how millennials speak?
No wonder nobody takes millennial slactivism seriously.

>Logic
Don't use this word when its obvious that you don't know what it means LMAO

BTW, don't use a reaction pic of laughter when you are obviously buttblasted as fuck.

and Gal Godot has tweeted some really fucked up stuff about Palestinians, but that doesn't make Wonder Woman a Zionist film.

>continues being triggered
Incels, when will they learn?

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If Ripley were written exactly as she was but genderswapped to match the original script with a male Ripley, SJWs would rage even more over losing a Stronk Woman icon.

based

Is Lisa in front of a projector screen the latest EPIC twitter meme that nu4chan will eat up but it's fine because despite the fact that it's going to get spammed even more than on Twitter, it's done totally ironically?

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Because the film is being explicitly marketed as anti-male.
Don’t be disingenuous, that was a completely separate thing that she never tied to the movie

Good God your generation is cancerous.

We need to increase federal funding on abortions.

>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
That's nice son.

>youtube videos are using Ripley and Sarah Connor as text book examples of strong women no one complained about
>op stupidly tries to argue that Ripley and Sarah are the same as today's horribly written women characters

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you literally replied to yourself, this is pathetic

Yes.
But at least be glad that millennials are going to lose the cultural spotlight in the coming decade and they'll just be relegated to being a bunch of lonely, autistic 40 year olds with no family who will either kill themselves soon, or they'll die of cancer before their 50s due to the unhealthy lifestyle millennials have.

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>Because the film is being explicitly marketed as anti-male.
In what way? Specifically, in what way that doesn't apply to Alien or Terminator? I'm trying to keep an open mind here to your readings of the trailers, but that seems to be a pretty big stretch. Care to elaborate? I'm willing to listen if you can explain.
That's sort of exactly what I was trying to point out. An actor's tweets aren't a part of a movie they happen to be in, and including them in any analysis or criticism is
>disingenuous
actually I would use the word "retarded" but we seem to agree here.

????

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wow you have more than one device, i'm so impressed

Give hel-fu

If Ripley and Sarah Connor came out today they would be terrible. They would never tolerate a subtle, nuisanced female character. She has to be an in your face femicunt that can only thrive from the subtraction of male characters.

Alien and Terminator are good movies made by competent directors. That's the real difference.

Wow, you have a mental illness, I'm impressed

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It's just a goth girl.

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Not who you were arguing with, but no we won't. Boomers (in the literal sense, not the meme sense) controlled the cultural narrative from their teenage years in the 50's and 60's, straight up until the millenials hit their teenage years, and that's because they were the most numerous generation until the millenials, who outnumber even them. It's a raw numbers game, and no generation before, or after, outnumbers millenials. Once a more numerous generation reaches their teenage years, they will control the cultural narrative, but given birthrates in the western world, which have taken a nosedive from their already low numbers in the past three years, you may need to wait for Millenials to start dying of old age for that to happen.

i'm not the one talking to myself though

You're imagining things user. Seek help.

Oh boy, then I hope we get a WWIII soon, i'm not going to last another decade of autistic adults with the minds of 5 year olds discussing how internet shitposting and watching stupid superhero movies for kids is totally activism.
I swear I'll go on a rampage and take as many of these subhumans as I can.

i'm not going to take advice from a guy who responds to his own posts

The M in MCU should stand for mediocre, so you're probably right, but we haven't seen the film yet, so that's pretty disingenuous.

Not sure what that has to do with me but ok schizo user.

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So this is all it takes to get (You)'s these days? Are incels always so perpetually salty?

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it has to do with you because you're the one responding to your own posts

Keep pretending to be me.

this is also you

Sure, keep telling yourself that. That impotent rage should serve you very well my friend.

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The actress' statements that less white males should be employed as critics. The actual movie probably won't be anti-male, but this is enough.

>I swear I'll go on a rampage and take as many of these subhumans as I can.
Please do, so you can get gunned down. It'll help trim the Amerifat.

based and getpilled

I'm from New Zealand.

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kiwis aren't people
do it

Okay, that tweet is definitely anti-male. However, I've watched some great movies from some actors who were truly subhuman degenerate trash... why should this color my view of the movie?

No, I rather go to Europe or America and do it.
Westerners are the problem here.

the only one mad here is you because you got found out. this is why you are still replying and doing damage control even though an innocent man would have brushed me off by now

I mean, they've only ever taste their own semen - so yeah.

Odd. I don't recall a previous alien or Terminator without them.

Sure, it's not like mocking the disabled isn't a time honored tradition around here. How new are you?

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Don't call your elders son.

We never should have stopped beating children.

>you didn't make the screenshot
f-fuck brehs, I only have one goal in life, and it isn't even that great ( ._.)

calling out samefags is an even older tradition

how will incels ever recover?

OH NO NO NO NOT THE DIESCHADS, DON'T LET THEM TAKE Yea Forums BROS

They won't

>all these asshurt replies.
100% true but these retarded unironic sheep posers can't handle the truth.

Fobp

>getting personally BTFO this hard
just fuck shit my up stacy

>stacy bringing bants and gets
based

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