>"Hi Kathy it's JJ. I can't do it. I can't... That's it I am getting George in and asking him for advice how to finish this movie. Tell Rian he can go fuck himself too with what he did with the Last Jedi. Why did you put my name at the end as producer? I'm not going to be the one blamed if this creates dozens of anti videos on youtube".
"Hi Kathy it's JJ. I can't do it. I can't...
>""leaks""
It's a preparative stunt before the massive marketing campaign, nothing more.
So was hiring risn Johnson a mistake or not?
The only reason Rian got hired is because he and Kathleen are close friends.
>massive marketing campaign
little late now for that don't you think? I mean we don't even have 1 poster and they expect this to break records?
Of course they're going to label Rian's vision as a mistake and JJ with Lucas' help as "saviours". Obvious, but effective move.
Must have been the plan from the start.
lol JJ in an interview while they were filming TLJ said he wished he had done Episode 8 and not left. Guy surely has a huge regret now.
They don't want to hinder Captain Marvel and Endgame.
>Implying somebody isn’t being paid to post this and part of the marketing budget isn’t going to this.
Never going to make it user
Marketing for big movies usually starts around 6 months before release. I bet they'll release a trailer in mid April and attach it to Endgame, which of course will give it a massive exposure.
I wonder how JJ felt when he watched TLJ. His entire vision of the trilogy trashed by some manchild.
not really, lately it starts roughly 1 year prior to release but it's retarded and I think counter effective
I'm sure disney plans to spend a lot of money on marketing ep 9
>''What the fuck, why isn't this a scene for scene reshoot of empire strikes back?''
Translating... translation complete:
We are going to pay George to endorse this movie and say "if you liked Empire strike back and Return of the Jedi you will love this movie" but he won´t actually have an imput in the actual movie. It won´t be true though but everyone believed it when Cameron said T5 was ok.
I am still not sure exactly if this is all JJ or Bob Iger. Probably the latter because JJ just recently said he liked what Rian did and nothing the fans have said will affect the way he's writing episode 9. So if this is the case... well at least we will get some comfy youtube videos to watch on the trainwreck.
The first Captain Marvel trailer came out 5 months ago and the movie is out next week. So it really depends.
>when Cameron said T5 was ok.
No you are wrong. Cameron LITERALLY says on the back cover "YOU ARE GOING TO LOVE THIS MOVIE".
>trusting the guy who made 5 bad star wars movies in a row
fuck george
There was nothing wrong with Luke in Last Jedi. I thought he was cool.
He should have become a villain or a Gray Jedi. He changed just because of Rey which was stupid.
>After all these years someone has yet to give proof as to why TPM is a bad movie apart from bringing up Jar Jar
Go on. You going to say it's too political and doesn't have the same rhythm of ANH?
fake news. george tried to help them with TFA and they told him to fuck off. now he gets to sit back and laugh while they burn his franchise to the ground.
holiday special, return of the jedi, and the prequels?
it's boring, the kid is a bad actor, the pod race was touted as the most exciting part of it but you could snore right through it
>Gray Jedi.
what's that?
characters are boring as fuck. Jar Jar is the least of the films problems; in fact, Jar Jar is one of the only characters with an arc.
For them, yes, for us, no. Without Rian we would have Star Wars Episode 38 a few years down the line. Ep 7 to 38 would all be about the Resistance vs First Order with a setting that works like a fucking cartoon serial where everything returns to the mean after every movie and no progress is ever made and it's an endless stream of do nothing movies just repeating themselves stuck in equilibrium. You will have Super Deathstar Destroyer Mk XVIII threatening to blow up yet another planet in every second movie, and it's always blown up by an X-Wing squadron and maybe sometimes the Millennium Falcon which exists forever in every movie and is basically a super hero ship and the most important one in the galaxy.
And the worst part is the masses would lap it up like the paypigs they are. Be glad that Rian made Luke heroically sacrifice himself to save Star Wars from this fate. JJ is a fucking hack by the way. TFA was trash worse than TLJ.
OMG READ THE EU
>Fix Luke Skywalker
are they admitting they fucked up?
>how the fuck do we generate interest for the franchise we brutally murdered
GEORGE LUCAS IS BACK GUYS HES BACK ITS GOING TO BE GOOD AGAIN PLEASE GO SEE IT
>the pod race was touted as the most exciting part of it but you could snore right through it
>What the fuck! where are the X Wings? There's no Tie fighters here? Why aren't they flying in space!!! This race is stupid there is no super weapon to destroy everything! How do they expect me, a 40 year old male to self insert into a child, I can't relate to this race
Imagine not liking Pod racing. Christ.
JJ admitted in interviews that he had no vision for a three movie trilogy. He just made shit up and figured someone else would finish it. TFA was just as shit as TLJ and JJ is one of the biggest hacks in hollywood
>His entire vision of the trilogy
what vision? Rian did exactly what JJ did to George
The man single-handedly destroyed consumer interest in the most profitable movie-based entertainment franchise of all time. So from Disney's perspective, yes, hiring him was a disaster. Whether we'll get anything good out of it due to Disney falling over themselves to try and win fans back is anybody's guess.
No, he made the greatest pleb filter of the 21st Century.
>>the pod race was touted as the most exciting part of it but you could snore right through it
>>What the fuck! where are the X Wings? There's no Tie fighters here? Why aren't they flying in space!!! This race is stupid there is no super weapon to destroy everything! How do they expect me, a 40 year old male to self insert into a child, I can't relate to this race
Best prequel whiner dissection I have ever seen, bravo. Post is worth many wupiupi.
Yes Empire Strike Back and Return of the jedi are two borefest but come on
>greatest pleb filter of the 21st Century
That would be Attack of the Clones, sir.
Lucas only directed the first film, then the prequels though.
Jar Jar is such a fucking coward. He’s going to use George as his excuse this time. I hope George deliberately suggests the absolute worst thing at every turn.
I can't believe somebody can like the prequels, there was fucking 0 X-wings for the love of god what's the point of star wars without X-wings or AT-AT's also the senate scenes were boring why the emperor didn't kill everyone after and just start the empire? like wtf Lucas is a hack
>I hope George deliberately suggests the absolute worst thing at every turn.
implying he's capable of anything else.
This is pretty much true.
Admitting you don't like Attack of the Clones (or Phantom Menace) is basically like waving a massive flag above your head that says you are a brainlet, while also screaming out that you are a brainlet. It's basically just an admission at this point.
this is your usual OTard
>"oh boy they are bring in the master to fix luke!!!!"
>*find out later George wasn't involved*
>"we never said George was coming on board"
It's just fake leaks to get people who hated TLJ interested.
They're kid's movies
>“Course correct”
>”Last Jedi Complaints”
Notice how after a solid year of hearing about how TLJ was the best thing to grace Star Wars since ESB, all of a sudden we’re getting articles acknowledging the complaints and even subtle suggestions that the criticism might have been valid all along? Funny, that.
link?
i don't know why they'd do this. do you not think it's more likely that they're going to stubbornly commit to the last jedi's shortcomings?
How can anyone be a friend of Kathleen Kennedy?
This, fucking this. Lucas is such a dumb hack. I can't believe he tried to make a hero's journey where the main character is whiney and fails at the end. I mean what the fuck!? How am I meant to self insert as a loser? What kinda subversive hollywood liberal bullshit is this to have the hero become all evil! Fuck Lucas. He's a hack. God I wish the fans had gotten to direct the prequels. I'd have had Anakin be super badass, and he'd be funny and cool like Han Solo too, and everyone would like him, we could have casted The Rock when he was young, just imagine Rock swinging around a lightsaber killing evil stormtroopers! We could have had nods to the fans too and have some AT-AT's and X Wings in a few scenes too! I can't believe Lucas didn't put a single one in the the entire PT. He really is a hack that doesn't know what the fans want.
Jesus, that post. Nostradamus ain't got shit on that user.
>and I thought I destroyed star wars. Ha!
>there is no emotion, there is peace
orthodox jedi
>emotion, yet peace
gray jedi
Thought they already finished filming 9 tho?
I blame JJ entirely.
He's the one who set up this garbage era with these garbage characters. He gave Johnson crayons made of shit and expected him to draw a masterpiece.
It doesn't make 8 any better from a directing standpoint, but in no fucking way is it RJs fault this trilogy is ending up the way it is.
Isn't that what Luke's always been?
Yeah last week
Was turning Episode 2 into CSPAN in Space part of his plan?
So they doing reshoots? also are they actually admitting they fucked up with Star Wars brand after vehemently saying haters were just trolls?
>implying watching the political machinations leading up to the formation of the Empire is boring
It's certainly not for brainlets and plebeians.
well Luke isn't exactly an orthodox Jedi now is he?
youtube.com
Lucas is such a hack nobody want to see how the two sides of a war that leaded up to the Empire are made, just put a Death Star, the millennium falcon and make Anakin a super badass warrior that can solo everyone like wtf Lucas needed his old wife just to clean his ass because he's retarded
I guess not. I would have preferred they just not introduce the 'no emotions' thing in the prequels though.
>So they are doing reshoots?
No. Not yet anyway.
CSPAN in space is interesting.
And if you OT fags ever bothered to watch the deleted scenes of the OT, Luke and Biggs have a rather lengthy political discussion about the empire in ANH in the Tosche station scene, that sheds a lot of light on Empire and Rebellion as factions, and made the Rebels seem way cooler, more hidden and more ragtag than they ended up appearing. The only reason it was deleted was because it happened at the same time as the space battle in the Tantaive IV and would have gotten in the way of pacing. It was meant to be Luke's introduction as a character.
(You) seem really desperate for someone to argue with. This isn't even a prequel thread buddy.
>I would have preferred they just not introduce the 'no emotions' thing in the prequels though
Is that because you are retarded, hate interesting things and only wanted capeshit in space with super black and white morality?
The PT as a criticism of the Jedi order and explaining why they fell is fucking kino.
This. They know Last Jedi is a failure. At this poiint the only way to spark interest is
1. Fire Kennedy and SJW writers
2. Hire Lucas
3. Announce first two movies as non canon and start fresh with Lucas idea
You mean his vision of copying the original trilogy but making it worse?
>implying Disney will ever admit defeat like that
I unironically think they would rather go bankrupt and lose everything than ever apologize to the fans.
Calm down buddy, these are just sci-fi movies. I don't see why Jedi couldn't have had emotions. Ben Kenobi, Yoda and Luke never came off as emotionally sterile in the original three films. The lack of emotion thing just made the characters in the prequels unengaging to watch, at least for me, with the exception of Obi-Wan.
How many autists will pretend to like it now that Lucas is back?
Are you braindead or something? Of course the Jedi had emotions, thats the whole point of Anakin's fall in the first place. His desire to protect the ones he loves vs adherence to an ideology he has no connection to. It's this very thing that Sheev uses as leverage to get Anakin to fall.
The orthodox Jedi try to suppress their own emotions because, ironically enough, the fear that emotions will lead them to the dark side.
Link please
I know they had emotions. I don't think it should have been in their philosophy to suppress them though.
oh fuck, came here to say this
>Marketing campaign
I think the phrase you're looking for is 'damage control'
>Help bring Luke's character back to his original vision.
How is that going to work? Luke is kill. I know he'll be back as a force ghost but force ghosts just appear for a scene or two. Nothing that would require bringing George Lucas in for.
>I don't think it should have been in their philosophy to suppress them though.
newsflash mate, this is why they fell
It's on the BD's. Go torrent the bonus disk or just youtube ANH deleted scenes.
Also Biggs is such a chad character. If he hadn't been cut, people would have arguably liked him more than Han Solo. Plus the way he wore that cape. So fucking cool. He was a total alpha male character and basically like a big brother to Luke.
ok? I'm not saying it shouldn't have been in their philosophy because of practical, in-universe reasons though. I'm saying it made the character unengaging to watch as a real life audience member.
JJ is probably gonna start Ep 9 right where TLJ left off. Luke is sitting there, back to Camera. He suddenly disappears. Hang for a few seconds, then boom, he's back again. "No, I'm not done yet" he says.
Rian did the impossible, he broke Star Wars fandom. Also he cost Disney 3.1 BILLION in lost revenue.
I don't even know if JJ would go that route. He died. The force sensitive characters felt him die.
>ruining my space soap opera with a bad child actor, space politics, and Mace Dindu
it's still the first movie I have memories of, so it'll always have nostalgia for me
He'll come back as Luke the white.
more like luke the blacked
>how JJ felt watching TLJ
"Huh, so Snoke was just some guy? Amazing!"
"Huh, so Rey is nobody? Amazing!"
"Huh, so Luke tried to kill Kylo is spite of it completely going against everything we know about his character? Amazing!"
JJ is just as shit as Rian and TFA and TLJ are on the same level.
>its boring
Sorry George tried to treat his fans like they're not autistic ADD addled retards by throwing in endless pointless fight scenes to stop you from getting bored. Maybe just stick to watching capeshit there Roger Ebert.
It is obvious JJ hates what Rian did. Which is exactly why he says those things on interviews. Rian basically shitted on everything JJ built in the first movie and ended Last Jedi so tightly closed that it is almost impossible to follow that up with a sequel. The simple fact that he was called back to fix this mess shows this. I don't think they course correcting the trilogy though, it is too late for that. I do believe that we'll get a more in depth look at Rey's parentage, Luke's ghost and perhaps the secret interests of Snoke and the people beyond the galaxy.
Announcing the first 2 movies as non-canon is the dumbest possible move you could do. You'd at the same time:
>Not regain the good faith of the outraged fans
>Lost the interest of the fans who liked the 2 films
They SHOULD compromise and perhaps retiring Kathlyn Kennedy is a good middle of the road.
>JJ built in the first movie
Yeah he did a shitty remake of A New Hope and made the OT pointless but hey atleast you saw some X-Wings and the Millenium Falcon
what the heck you talking about, user? I didn't even say I liked the movie. I'm just talking about Rey's parents mystery, Kylo's mask and Snoke's motivations. Those plot points were completely abandoned or even mocked by Rian Johnson. In JJ's perspective, that was probably a dick move.
How young are you?
these were mocked because these were fucking mystery box that deserves to be mocked
Actually that’s not why they fell. The Jedi’s practice of suppressing emotion and starting training for very young kids works. It’s when they broke away from this and trained Anakin, who was too old, did they fall. Think about it, without Anakin then there would be no one there to stop Mace from killing Palpatine.
Now I get that without training Anakin this changes the entire course of the Clone Wars and we cannot know how things would have gone then.
There were at minimum 12 other Jedi who left the order after becoming knights according to AOTC, with Dooku being one of them. There are busts of them in the archives that Obi Wan is looking at when Jocasta Nu tries to help him find Kamino.
Who knows how many padawans and younglings flunked out. The Jedi only accepted Anakin because of their prophecy too.
Also with no Anakin, Sheev would not have made move that lead to Mace coming to him room to arrest him anyways, also Sheev could ahve easy beat Mace, if he can beat Yoda, he can beat Mace, he lost on purpose to make it look like Mace was in the wrong, he knew Anakin was going to arrive and interfere, it was his plan. Without Anakin, Sheev may have been satisfied with Maul or Dooku.
The Jedi suppression of emotion was definitely a part of why they fell.
I always cringed at people who cared who Rey's parents were, or who Snoke was or any of these other gay mystery boxes back in 2016 and 2017 before TLJ came out. Snoke was a literal Emporor clone, who gives a fuck. And Rey's parents were either Skywalker or Kenobi, no one cared, in fact if she was a Skywalker or a Kenobi I would have fucking cringed hard over it, as it would have been an extremely uncreative, obvious and cliched answer.
Rian did a good thing by trashing these fucking garbage plotlines. TLJ was bad, but TFA was far worse.
fan backlash?
not russian bot backlash?
how embarrassing for Disney that Lucasfilm seeds this garbage in the media. literally, we have no ideas, we need GL's help. KK is the prime reason the series has become so monotonous and stagnant, eventually they will have to dump her.
even if they DID bring Lucas in at this late stage in the game, I'm guessing it would mostly be to prepare an outside scapegoat to push all the negative reactions on
>he actually thinks they care about the youtube videos
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LOOK AT THE TOP HIS HEAD
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But user, muh E;R and le EPIC PWNAGE of those TLJ lovers! Disney is going bankrupt any day now, you see...marketing budgets are a gorbillion dollars, also SJWs, also feminists.
But it was just with every major twist subverted.
Nigger he made a fucking Luggenpresse filter
Cryptos and glowniggers were laid bare with that movie
Wrong. Sheev would have overthrown the Jedi with or without Vader. In fact, Vader played a pretty small part in that.
>Georgie... we burnt the house down and then scattered the ashes into the wind. We need you to help fix the leaky sink we used to have.
Come the fuck on, Ryan.
Even if JJ gave him shitty caracters to start with, he still had Luke, Leia and a bunch of other caracters from the O/T and still managed to fuck it up.
>Flying Leia and Luke dying like a bitch.
formerly nigg e;r
if Mark didn't teach you anything else, is that you've got to say nice things about the movie and the creatives behind it otherwise you will get your ass sued.
>that 40 year old RLMtard who thinks star wars is creatively bankrupt because PT has bad dialogue and ST uses falcon for the trailer
>sips blue milk
>Ahhh!
>Empire strikes back, now that's a good movie
>we now have kids who think Empire wasn't a good movie
End my suffering.
Want to try this in English?
It was, but that doesn't mean you can't make more good movies
Set in some other time, maybe even super distant time like a thousand years ago/after
Without fucking tie fighters shooting at X-wings
With different, well-written characters who aren't Rey and Ben
Just because some scam artists made shit movies doesn't mean star wars is "creatively bankrupt since 1983"
I still can't believe that people say Luke wanted to join the Empire when he even says he dislikes them in a scene still in the film. It's a throw away line more or les, but it's there. Not to mention how he lights up when he hears someone is part of the rebellion.
>comes back as idris elba
"AT LAST I HAVE ATTAINED TRUE MASTERY OF THE FORCE IN ITS MOST PERFECT FORM"
Do you people ever source this shit?
It fucking Daily Express. Lucas ain't comic back. He's gonna watch this dumpster fire from his front porch and laugh.
He said he loved Rian's script and that he had a chance to direct it.
This, at least TLJ had some kino shots.
TFA just looked like CGI garbage all the way.
you guys are down syndromed.
JJ FUCKED up the star wars line, not Rian.
Rian tried to salvage the clusterfuck JJ "Muh mostalgia" set up.
JJ has never made a good anything in his life and all his ideas are arent the 80s cool wooooowwwooww faggotry hes a faggot
George is also a faggot
all these faggots fucked up an already shit childrens movie line
get over it. grow up, go outdoors
be men not kids
/thread
It's not that. It's just that when what's left of the SW audience turns the steaming pile of garbage that will inevitably be Episode 9, they can point fingers at George and say
>hey hey goyim, it's all Lucas's fault. Again!
*turns on
>says a bunch of bullshit
>tells people to get over it and grow up
take your own advice you autist
>Grow up
>On Yea Forums
lmao
Oh yeah I remember when Rian set up a cool backstory where Snoke was actually Plagueis who survived Sheev's headshot with lightsaber, and Knights of Ren are Luke's former pupils who turned to the dark side but were so hateful that they ended up killing each other so Kylo was the only survivor, and he also showed whats up with Kylo's unique sword and how there's an unstable kyber crystal that's why it has such a jagged outline and two additional blades, also Rey is Obi-Wan's daughter and also she allies with Kylo Ren and what will happen next its so exciting
Oh wait a hot second, he didn't do any of that
It's just a shitty empire remake
you cant say that about star wars, its an important piece of culture, a modern mithology along superheros, the only mithos i ever had, you cant take it from me
It's not bad, but it's overly fellated by Redditors.
And as George says, the plot is weird, it doesn't have a beginning nor an end, leaving episode 6 to waste its first half hour to properly finish episode 5.
>mithology
>mithos
Wait, star wars?
I know what that is!
>second movie in a trilogy
>it doesn't have a beginning nor an end
>weird
We're reaching levels of retard that shouldn't be possible.
>Implying Empire wasn't widely considered the best of the OT long before reddit or the internet.
>Empire is good
>Therefore star wars should end and there physically can't be anymore movies that are good
t. stoklasa's sentient stomach fat roll
except JewJew didnt do any of that
4channel made it all up and the wider gay interner fans
JJ set up shit
he copied Star Wars a New Hope
added in some fucking nonsense bullshit that chink thing in a room
wtf would lukes old stuff be in a locked box in some weird room if hes on an island
hes a fucking hack
jesus youre making me remember how bad that movie was
dont make me start listing MAJOR story and character flaws from Force Awakens
The notion that a movie doesn't have to make sense or be satisfying because it relies on other media is brain AIDS introduced by the MCU.
honestly, i don't believe a damn thing about what their opinions are behind the scenes. they seem to double back on everything.
i hated JJ since the StarvTrek reboot, but that was the first movie of his I watched. Your post is great except
>George is a faggot
you fuck
I'm listing things that Rian could've done to make his movie at least somewhat interesting
All mousewars movies are shit, there's no arguing there
MCU is not a trilogy it's an endless stream, you braindead roach-infested failed abortion
Only in Burgerland in the rest of the world is just another movie
They're snakes and they're in this together.
Nobody cares Luke's coming back because he is a fucking ghost now which means no cool fight for him. Irredeemable shit.
Movies in a trilogy still each have a beginning and an end. Hell, Star Wars would have been a standalone movie if it wasn't so well received.
Instead of declaring them non-canon, what if they stated that they ARE canon, but that the EU is also canon, but takes place in a different universe and are going to adapt EU stories in the future?
Cause at this point, that's the only way out they've got. Yeah, retiring Kathlyn Kennedy is good, but it still doesn't fix all the damage she's done to the series.
It's still going to be a flop, everyone hates both main characters so unless they pull a miracle it's over
He literally was fighting as a ghost in TLJ
im sure he didnt give a single fuck
That's exactly why empire doesn't have an ending, because they knew it would be a success and there would be rotj you FUCKING
IDIOT
DUMBO
Rey is an absolute seething cunt and I don’t care what happens to her.
take your meds
>also Sheev could ahve easy beat Mace, if he can beat Yoda, he can beat Mace, he lost on purpose to make it look like Mace was in the wrong, he knew Anakin was going to arrive and interfere, it was his plan
Reading a bit too much into scene that's part of a a trilogy where everybody says that the creator can't into subtlety.
It's ridiculous to assume that Palpatine is such a master planner that he can plot a fight to an exact second Anakin has his crisis of faith. He got wrecked, Lucas himself said that. There's nothing wrong with that. success is part talent, part hard work and some luck as well.
And Yoda only lost cause he lost his footing and there was nothing to grab onto, unlike Palpatine.
Force Awakens is a clusterfuck of nonsense.
I couldnt even watch it a 2nd time to see how bad it was. This is from memeory 4 years ago about how retarded it was, here goes
>rey in the desert inside a massive cruiser scavenging for parts THAT NO ONE ELSE IS scavenging despite it being a scavenging planet and everyone does it and that thing would be a fucking goldmine...
>she had amazing level skills and access to euiptment despite being a orphan
>kylo ren introduced as a massively badass overpowered villain so much so he can stop a bolt in mid air and hold it there while having a conversation
>has a conversation THAT IS GARBAGE nonsense with the old guy from GoT that goes nowehere, foreshadows nothings, talks about people we have no idea are, so we cant figure out what is going on
>he has a whole army with him
>shows FN227 who was a janitor, given minimal training is now for some reason in combat
>Captain Phasma (jesus chrsit how bad is that character) somehow knows his fucking name among thousands of troopers
>only now does he realise...durr the empire bad peepole, they shoot peepole, what was I doing joining them as a janitor but now a fighter hurr duurr
>rey smehow has all these talents and fighting abilities but still has to fuck about for potato scraps. Just nonsense
>she STEALS the robot from that other dude in dessert
>bb8 is a shit r2d2. they dont even fucking try
>nignog227 arrives and they copy the desert shot from new hope
>cant even remember the shit with him and rey
>he meets the pilot for 5 minues and hes his best friend for life later in the movie
>so much more garbage about the falcon being there and her bieng able to drive it as shes a genius DESPITE NEVER TRYING TO ESCAPE USING THIS KNOWLEDGE BEFORE
>oh look its hands, - so what harrison ford cool this is all fine part of the movie as hes in it and chewy
..contd
Yes.
>The Jedi suppression of emotion was definitely a part of why they fell.
Well, more like Anakin not suppressing his emotions. If he played by the rules, a lot of shit could've been avoided. But no, he had to have a wife and a master title and whatever. Like you say, Dooku and others quit. 20 to be exact. Anakin could've just walked away and move to Naboo with Padme. But he was greedy. He wanted the social status of being a big bombad Jedi and fuck a tight little senatorial cooch and alos everybody he ever loved must never die.
If RotJ never came out there would still be a sense of advancement for the characters in ESB. Apart from Rose Tico showing up I guess one could go from watching Force Awakens to Episode IX and they wouldn't be confused about anything.
That's why you don't let random stranger from a bar direct your super expensive second movie in a trilogy
contnd
>Complete..I MEAN COMPLETE garbage from the chink woman with the glasses. LOL what the fuck was that even about. Getting echoes from the lightsabre, waht the fuck is that all about.
>it was just mumbo jumbo that meant nothing, and never could mean anything from JJ. Hes such a fucking hack. He never works things out.
his movies are popcorn for the eyes
>big fight outside and some how A JANITOR with no experience can out fight the trained troopers
>Kylo ren shows up at then somehow teyre on the ship with rey
>OMG GIRL you so powerful you can master an art no one has ever done before without major training. Even Anakin who was midocholriansed up the ass couldnt do anyting close without training, just a bit of podracing
>all the other nonsene then theyre outside
>the fight begins and for some reason Kylo Ren no LONGER hs the powers he had all his life.. He lost them in the last 5minutes to A JANIOTR and an orphan super human who could barely escape tiny danger 30 minutes before this
>we wont even mention the ridiculous fight scene, needless to say a CHASM opens up between two people (who have force powers and can force jump..shhh dont mention it)
>Kylo ren become an unstable character who is doing stuff now just because LOL idk
>ends
fuck that movie was tripe
oh yeah and the overly gay scene with poe haha absolute joke
Im sure if I watched it again I could point out twice as much shit shot garbage.
fuck you user
JJ is useless.
he was glad that someone else managed to obscure what a waste of space TFA was by doing something even more obviously shit.
But it was, with RotJ there too.
>I always cringed at people who cared who Rey's parents were
Rey's parents were never a mystery in TFA. Nowhere is it implied that Rey doesn't know who her parents are. It's just that Rian is apparently dumb as fuck and just because he as an audience member didn't know he assumed that Rey also doesn't know.
It happens a lot in this type of fanboyish media. Like, for example, characters in capeshit comics know everybodies secret identity, when there's no way all of them would be privy to such information. Like Jimmy Olsen knowing who former Robins were. Batman is a paranoid fuck, but writers know this stuff so they forget and write like the characters know as well.
Nigga I ain't reading all of this shit, what was that even for? I've seen the fucking movie, all I said that Rian ruined the tiny molecule of potential in a pot of goat feces that JJ handed him. It could've been slightly better and maybe fall into so bad it's good category. But as is, TLJ is not even fun to make fun of, it's a documentary on Hamill's depression.
Here's a real question, how does Swolo know that Rey's parents are nobodies?
k heres hte short verion
JJ set up a story which did nothing but copy Star Wars
he left becuase he had no ideas and didnt know where to go when it wasnt a copy job
his ideas were shit, and rian had shit to work with
just look at lost if you need proof he has no clue what hes doing
Or star trek serioes
/end
>nothing but copy ANH
...Except for things I listed in
JJ and Rian are the Eric and Dylan of Star Wars
He's a mouthpiece for Rian. It's plebian subtext into text amateur hour.
>you have to like your boss
That reminds me when Dumbledore asked Harry out of nowhere if he likes Hermione
Just so we would know
That was so awkward and obvious lmao
FUCK you really are a retard
I didnt realise.
All that stuff JJ never did. You retconned it in your own head about fantasizing
none of it,,,,not one bit of what you said..is in the movie. It exists only in Yea Forums and your head
its a dream you had that you were a person, inside a locked room
dont @me again please.
Wtf is this thread? Are 70% of these posters just bots?
Who the fuck ever complained that TPM was bad because it didn't have X-wings? Why is that being repeated in this thread like a litany? Did you shills get the wrong script?
I liked Rogue One
The rest of them were awful
So glad I had no interest to see TLJ
Everything that was new in prequels is great.
Dialogue, pacing, character development and actor directing is what sucks.
I wanted new stuff in the sequels, not more stormtroopers shooting at x-wings.
Fuck JJ
>reddit spacing
>/threads his own post
>brainless rambling of a sub-40 IQ
Was this a troll post?
Finally. Literally preordering my ticket right now.
I was pretty anti this filma fter tlj but if a random clickbait article says that Lucas is back, I guess I'm sold
Salty bitches gotta stick together.
This is what I keep telling everyone, but nobody will listen. It's capitalism that is the problem. These fucking jews have inherited and criminally accrued so god damn much wealth they can literally afford to lose entire countries' worth of GDP and face 0 consequences. The jew has finally become so financially secure it can push agendas ad infinitum without concern about where the money will come from.
>Implying value judgments can be proven
But I’ll bite anyway. Shitty child actor, bland characters, lack of a relatable protagonist, stilted/awkward/charmless/inhuman dialogue, too much CGI, no emotional center.
Also, seeing a supervillain as a lame, dorky child (and later a whiny emo teenager) emasculates that character. George did to Vader what Rian did to Luke.
TFA is slightly better than TLJ if only because it’s story still manages to not contradict itself regularaly. TLJ is a movie in which two major characters manage to leave the ship undetected and return in their quest to find a way for the resistance to leave the ship undetected. Characters regularaly end up in locations with no explanation on how they got there and act on information they never could have known.
Oh I get it now. The whole "TLJ is worse than TFA, even though JJ is the one who built this shitwagon to begin with" comes from Jew Jew Abrahamovitch shills. Makes sense now. Man, the ability of jews to stay afloat by sacrificing goyim is truly amazing.
>no no this hulking pile of shit is worse than this hulking pile of shit
>Express.co.uk who is sourcing Mike "Fake Star Wars News" Zeroh
Rose is in 9 and Billy Dee where Pando Calrissian's outfit
what
They only came out with this bullshit after the movie has wrapped.
Rose is a Sith with a pink lightsaber
I'm not the one saying that. All of Nu Wars is shit. I just don't get why everyone decided to forget how offensive in every single way TFA was. But now I get it. It's literally paid ass goy shills to keep Jew Jew's career afloat, since he has no fucking talent.
>someone disagrees with me
>they must be paid money to say that how could anyone disagree with me
Are you familiar with Occam's razor?
>Rey's parents were never a mystery in TFA.
The way JJ set it up implied it was a mystery. It may not be a mystery to Rey, but it was a mystery to the audience. If JJ had said her parents were nobodies right from the start, no one would've had a problem with it. What they did with Episode 7 and 8 was create a mystery box and then jerk around people. So this is both JJ and Rian's fault.
In this case, the fact that capitalists pay desperate interns to shitpost on the internet (a known fact) would be the most likely explanation. Since both TFA and TLJ suck ass.
occam's razor is the most reddit fucking principle.
It really was you know, just exponentially shitter
OH FOLKS OH SHIT IT'S THAT A AT AT?!!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA btw the prequels are trash the politics didn't make any sense why would the emperor need people if he was already the emperor
Imagine being this much of a millennial
imagine being this much of a brainlet
but millennial hates the prequels and wear shirts with Solo Shot First
No, there is no saving it. They killed the only character a lot of us gave a shit about, without him, there's nothing but a whole bunch of new dud characters, a shitty story and a production team that hates its fans. No way they can comeback from this.
>le amazing old people rubbing sticks xD so powerful xD
>Course correct
But he's deceased. What are they gonna do?
what does that have to do with the prequels brainlet
>thinking luke is dead is becoming one with the force
>not teleporting away to the birth place of the force
CONTAINMENT BOARD WHEN
Hahaha
Honestly, rewatching the movie I find young Anakin much more annoying than Jar Jar. Jar Jar is actually kind of likable since he's basically a good hearted guy who tries his hardest but fucks up everything he touches and gets banished from his home for it. I've said it before and I'll say it again, but TPM is for me the last Star Wars movie to feel like it truly belongs with the OT. 2 and 3 are good, entertaining movies in their own ways, but Episode 1 evokes the same substance that 4, 5, and 6 were made of.
WE DID IT /POL/ IT'S HAPPENING
If anything, I think they should have let Rian direct ep 9.
>not Hoth because SALT.
Fight me on this:
Solo (hans gf was a shitty helper character)
Rogue one (The asains were the best part of the whole cast, i could watch a film with just them in it)
TLA/TFA
>be JJ
>tmw no lens flares
The politics in the PT literally don't make any real sense though.
Eric and Dylan were cool though
>JJ
>vision
pick one
how?
>thought experiments and logic devices are "rebbit"
Don't you have homework to do?
Who would have subverted your expectations if they hadn't hired Rian?
>Jar Jar becomes a senator (an elected position) because Padme said "sure, here you go" meanwhile, everyone else needs to be elected by a vote
Then the obvious ones unless you are a brainlet:
>Trade company blocking trade
>needing the signature of someone you captured already to "legalize" an act of war after you've taken over the planet
>Senate forming a committee despite the fucking Queen being right there, despite her planet being a long-standing member of the Republic and an ally for thousands of years
>anyone can call a vote of no confidence, literally anytime
>planets sit on the Senate and decide legislation of...other planets?
>Republic has no means or organizational power to recruit or man any sort of defensive Army despite pooling the resources of literal thousands of ally planets
Fuck you for making me explain this shit.
JJ can create a mystery, but can he fuck as like end one. And even if he could, Rian killed all the mystery.
So you basically don't understand politics
>the prequels are too smart for you
Oh, come on you fucking retard. This is weak bait.
>post retard bait
>y..ou you!
The Senate is an elected group, you aren't appointed into a term, they do a vote. How does Jar Jar become a senator you absolute moron? You mean to tell me that offscreen, the Galactic Republic stopped everything to hold a vote for Jar Jar Binks? Or...now hear me out, or it's stupid?
I know you're a diaper wearing underage, but saying the prequels suck isn't bait. Welcome to 4channel though!
>capitalism that is the problem.
This is the most brainlet thing I've ever seen on Yea Forums. Capitalism is the reason movies like Star Wars are made.