The Orville

That's why I exclusively rent from Enterprise.

Did somebody say McMeme?

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orville managed to get shit like sprawling vertical cities right unlike star trek

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No.

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Well it sure fuckin sounded like it.

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People keep saying that it's a sci-fi comedy but I don't see the humour.

The corner piece of cake thing was pretty funny.

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whoever says that is a fucking retard

>How did this suddenly become the best sci fi show currently on television?
1. McFarlane leans left, so he's a better creative than conservatives tend to be, but he also doesn't constantly force his own ideology into every episode of everything he makes. Maybe Fox has something to do with keeping him in check, I don't know.
2. It's true to the original style of Trek. Optimistic, procedural adventures rather than the tired modern trend of grimdark serialized dramas where nobody ever fucking wins.

>Isn’t there a Star Trek currently on the air?
in name only, yea.

>Even good shows like firefly barely lasted a full season.
that was fox's fault. they aired the episodes out of order and pre-empted many of them with sporting events so people never even got to see them at all.

>I thought this was a McMeme comedy spoof.

That where you were wrong. Orville is pretty much Star Trek as a sitcom the same way Scrubs is Emergency Room as a sitcom. Sure, it has a much lighter tone and more jokes but it doesn't shy away from actual drama.

this i think.

this was amazing. the show made such a jump in quality it's the most impressive unexpected thing.

Seth MacFarlane is a terrible writer and actor.

It’s really pathetic how hard Fox pumps this show here.

I’d honestly rather watch a “there’s Irish people in the cargo bay/holodeck again” Trek episode than spend more than 5 minutes watching Seth fumble through this shot. Formulaic and derivative.

>Isn’t there a Star Trek currently on the air?
Yes. It's called The Orville. You're in a thread about it.
Or are you talking about that show with Star Trek in the name despite clearly not being Star Trek?

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fox doesnt shill this show at all mate. it's organic as fuck, its basically all of us from trek general who have been watching this as an alternative to how bad std is. and speaking of std, you wanna see shills? go to an std thread. CBS shills everywhere and apparently theyre not allowed to type "STD" so theyre obvious too.

I bet you get told that you have bad taste a lot.

As a rule I hate all image macros. This one can stay.

>apparently theyre not allowed to type "STD" so theyre obvious too.
that sounds like a hand-wave excuse to ignore anyone who (rightfully) points out that literally no other star trek series abbreviation begins with "ST" for "Star Trek"

STD is a shitposting pejorative, not the actual designation of the show, and people who use it obviously aren't looking to actually discuss the show.

>STTOS
OK
>STTNG
OK
>STDS9
OK
>STVOY
OK
>STENT
OK
>STD
NOT OK! YOU MUST BE A SHITPOSTER!!!

Really?

You are choosing to search for offense with what was always just the natural abbreviation of the name.

Fuck off back to the /trek/ thread with this shit.

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He loves TNG, and wanted the ability to self-insert into something like that.
It just happened that Fox expects funny, so he has to shoehorn some of that in to please the execs (plus I don't think he's confident enough in his own work to NOT use comedy), but snuck in an actual love letter to Trek.

Help that actual Star Trek sort of abandoned what people liked about it.

Or maybe you. You fuck off back to the /trek/ thread.
I don't know who to trust anymore because of your CBS shills!

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I think you misunderstood my sarcasm, user.

>that last 2 parter
More trek then anything released since the 6th season of ds9

The orville is a love letter to trek while std is a suicide note

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Yeah, I think you're right.
I'd sudoku myself right now, but that would be playing right into CBS's hands.

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literally nobody has ever used any of the ones you just posted except for "STD" shitposters in nuTrek threads because LOL IT MAKE ACRONYM THAT MEANS SEX DISAESES LAMAO

based klyden

Honestly the ratings don't really matter as Fox gets some kind of write off for airing the Orville and they save money no matter what.
Also they can't upset their golden boy so we can expect many, many seasons of the Orville

>what was always just the natural abbreviation of the name.
but it literally isn't and has never been. the abbreviations for star trek series have always been made from the unique series name, not the "Star Trek" header, e.g. TOS, TNG, VOY, ENT, DS9.

as far as I know these were also the abbreviations used in any official capacity as well.

Even your own obviously baiting example STD doesn't make sense because every other one you listed uses 3 letters after the ST, so it would be STDIS or STDSC by your own styling. Not that it matters because nobody uses ST at the beginning of any star trek show abvs. to begin with.

What a waste of trips. Why are STD fans so easily irritable?

STD is the natural abbreviation, because it appeared naturally from the trek fandom. To try to force them into unnatural alternatives is using them as unpaid marketing.

>STD fans
Such a thing does not exist.

One of the stages of grief.

>shitposts constantly
>wonders why people keep calling him a retarded shitposter
wew lad

well no, they are made by the fanbase after the fact, not something the showrunners decide and there aren't any specific rules dictating their creation.
You kind of prove it in your own post
>TOS
was only deemed this by the fanbase to differentiate between tng and the original. Rodenberry didn't call the original show Star trek: the original series.
TNG worked on both levels along with DS9 as they were actually 3 words
VOY and ENT are both created in different ways as they are singular word titles.
It doesn't work as well with STD as if you wanted a nice 3 letter abbriviation it would be DIS which is gay, the show runners are pushing "DISCO" which is too long and also gay, so STD works best
No reason to be salty about it my man :^)

You haven't seen real shitposting, tourist

Only responding to the 'Orville isn't real Star Trek, Star Trek has a real show on CBS' posts that pollute our otherwise comfy Orville threads.

>because it appeared naturally from the trek fandom.
what fandom?

>unnatural alternatives
you mean the actual official abbreviation that follow the same scheme as every other star trek series in existence?

>firefly
>good
Fucking hell. It was garbage and trashed because nobody watched it. Joss Whedon has never been at the helm of anything great in his entire career.

Star Trek has had fans since the 1970's. Were you unaware of that? If CBS wanted to push their own marketing name, they should have done so before the fandom had a chance to name it what they felt like.

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>Joss Whedon has never been at the helm of anything great in his entire career.
Look, I'm all for shitting on Whedon, but when you say objectively false things like that, it just makes you look like a fool.

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nobody in this thread said the orville isn't a "real" star trek. in fact most people seem to agree that the orville is the closest thing to a "real" star trek that's been released in over a decade. this whole pile of shitpost started because of some std shitposter reeeing about "muh shills"

>STD
>real star trek
>despite bearing no resemblance to star trek in visual design or story telling
do people actually claim this?

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go find me somewhere outside of Yea Forums that regularly calls discovery "std" in a non-pejorative context rather than the official abbreviation.

>Isn’t there a Star Trek currently on the air?

If you think Buffy is great television then nothing I could possibly say would ever talk any sense into you. Carry on being a fat lesbian from 1997, I guess.

>STD fans
>easily irritable
I see what you did there.

What? It was pretty good season 1, season 2 is pretty crap so far. most of the episodes have been some relationship sitcom drama bullshit that just happen to take place on a spaceship. They barely do anything outside talk about relationship problems on this show.

So what you're saying is that you're an outsider to Yea Forums. No need to admit it, we could already tell.

Go check youtube. Go check anywhere. It has always been called STD. It wasn't even considered an insult. They speak badly of it now, because the show has been a bad show.

You can always spot a shill when they get outlandishly buttblasted by people calling Discovery STD. It’s kind of pathetic lol

are you trying to say that asking if there's an official star trek series on the air is somehow the same as claiming that the orville isn't a "real" trek? the poster even goes on to imply that the orville is closer to the spirit of "real" trek than anything currently on air by saying that there was no other competition.

thats what all the youtube fan channels and torrent sites call it
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>"Deactivation complete"
Underrated badass line by Isaac.

You can't expect them to have anything to say about the episodes.

I'm telling you that even in the small, irrelevant trek community of Yea Forums only anti-discovery shitposters use STD regularly, and in no other actual sizeable community do they use the term.

tl;dr you're shitposting retard. that's an objective statement, not an insult.

>SHILLS REEEEEE
fuck off to your /trek/ thread you STD-infested faggots

Even ignoring the fact that you've been proven wrong already, why does it bother you so much? Do you get paid less for your failures? At the rate you're going, you must make twice as much as a jannie.

It's not really a comedy, it's just made by a guy who is known for comedy.

It was charming. My only complaint is that I could see it coming a mile away.

Is family guy man actually talented? Was all that garbage he's made over the years so he could end up making his own not!startrek show?

He's living the dream. He grew up and became the captain of his own star ship.

I managed to avoid spoilers since I was a day behind on the 2 parter. Was the general consensus really so negative? I loved it.
>just enough humor that it didn’t feel out of place for the situation
>pretty much all the main characters had something to do
>Isaac finally realizing he might be experiencing emotions
>got to show the Kaylon as a credible future threat and maybe work toward peace with the Krill
>that fucking space battle holy shit, now I know where this seasons budget was focused
I thought it was a little crazy how quickly they were willing to bring Isaac back into the crew, but you got the feeling it’s going to be a long time before anyone is going to be seeing him how they used to

>literally searching for "star trek std"
>surprised when results calling it std show up

>fan sites and torrents
>searching for "star trek std" shows nothing but people shitposting the show
wew lad

His acting is a bit stiff, and I wouldn't call his writing fantastic by any means, but the man can sing.
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>you've been proven wrong already
except the fact that the official abbreviation by the owners and creators of Star Trek is DSC and not STD, and STD isn't actually used by anyone except for shitposters, sure.

>Was the general consensus really so negative?
On the contrary, we've been very pleased with it. Only people shitting on it are fans of the fake star trek trying to stir shit up.

can't all you faggots just shut the fuck up and post pics of the qt jesus fucking christ 2019 and youre all arguing about fucking abbreviations

good fucking god i hate what this board has become

We finally got to hear Gordon sing in the last episode and they’ve already established that Ed loves musicals. I’m waiting for the inevitable episode where Ed and Gordon start singing in a holodeck night club as an excuse for more musical numbers

It occasionally lightly parodies some Star Trek conventions. The aliens aren't necessarily all enlightened in their own special ways. They ripped the concept of the Prime Directive. The captain and the ship have conspicuously un-dynamic names. The aliens are often completely silly goobers.

>Is family guy man actually talented?
He's actually talented with singing and voice acting, but his writing is kind of bland and his humor obvious as hell.

That doesn't mean he's bad, he just got successful way too quickly and didn't get the chance to improve his writing/directing (see Million Ways to Die in the West, biggest example of him being in way over his head on his current abilities).

Guy loves what he's doing, though, and he's currently living the dream with his self-insert Star Trek project, so oddly enough, I'm sort of rooting for him and hopes he eventually improves in those areas he's kind of lacking in.

>owners and creators
Nobody cares.

>isn't actually used by anyone except for shitposters
This is your imagination. Just because you can't find anyone that likes the show, it doesn't mean the common abbreviation is being made as a pointed insult.

>tfw you will never parlay a successful career making predictable normie-humor cartoons into self-inserting as the captain of your own star trek show

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Here you go user. qt jesus as requested

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>This is your imagination.
because surely this thread full of "STD" shitposting isn't evidence to the contrary. i just popped my head into /trek/ btw, and literally every single person who used the term "STD" was shitposting the show (or quoting someone who had). big shock.

>Anything that isn't sucking the balls of the show is a shitpost.

Why are you being such a pissy bitch about what abbreviation people use for worst Star Trek? Calm your balls

Dann is too pure for this world

Stop giving him (You)s. It's doubtful he's even seen the show. He's just like a teenage girl, and doing this for the attention. His goal is to ruin the comfy, and by giving him attention, you are helping him achieve his goal.

here's your (you).

there's a difference between discussion and shitposting. none of the posts mentioning STD are doing so in a remotely constructive way, only referencing how unpopular it was, how shit it was, calling people who watched the show "std faggots", etc. literally shitposting.

>it's ok to post objectively incorrect information because nobody likes the show anyway!

I'm a little surprised that Mercer didn't catch more flack for the whole invasion event. Even if it wasn't his fault, people tend to like to find a scapegoat no matter what. There's bond to be some far flung jerk that simply has of out for him, and would make use of the event to those ends.

I have seen the show, actually. I didn't like it. I still don't call it STD like some autistic shitposting incel.

Well we really haven't seen any of the fallout from that episode yet. Maybe we'll actually get some in the next episode. There has been a surprising amount of continuity between episodes despite him keeping the show episodic.

I want to put my penile appendage inbetween Alara's fucking tight buttocks and grind until I am able to penetrate into her indestructible vaginal oriface, which her alien biology will accept human DNA and create a new biological creature that I will raise and never abandon, unlike some other parts of the species of humans who do not have the same skin color as me, but might on occasion be smarter than me.

To be fair, humanity is currently in a utopia state. Most people seem to be more about pushing each other to better things rather than trying to powerplay against each other.

Plus he and Admiral Halsey seem pretty close, and I think they’re willing to give him the benefit of the doubt given that nobody expected the Kaylon to go full galactic genocide based on Isaac’s findings.

>nothing but shitposting
this is LITERALLY a fanboy channel user, as is the podcast
>if you search for star trek STD the show is in the results
I mean yeah, that kinda proves my point

lmao y r u so mad??? :^)
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You could make the same case for every TNG movie where picard went against orders etc and never had any consenquences
The only ones who ever actually had to face a court martial over that type of shit was the TOS crew

We all liked it. I haven't seen any real negative posts about it.

>Was the general consensus really so negative?
I have not heard one negative comment outside of the """"twist"""" being predictable.
It was a great two parter, honestly better then alot of actual star trek 2 parters.

He is still in stages of grief. His anger is unfocused and irrational, seeing offenses that only exist in his mind. Eventually he will get past this stage and reach a level of depression.

>google search results and this 2 year old youtube channel prove my point!
literal brainlet

That inquisitor gave him hell about his involvement with the Borg.

While the episode did end up being a couple things we predicted, we did predict pretty much every possible outcome. I'm not really sure how he could have ended that without something as predictable. Even more so since he wanted to keep Issac around.
Notice how he's not making any points, and just throwing the current insults of the month around.

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>This youtube video uploaded a year and a half ago by some chink with 300 subscribers is absolute proof that LITERALLY everyone calls it STD ??? :^)
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While not quite the same thing, the temporal division or something like that spent an entire episode grilling Sisko.

>Notice how he's not making any points
My only point and factual statement has repeatedly been that the acronym for Discovery is officially DSC and nobody but shitposters call it STD, which has been proven repeatedly by you STD shitposters in this thread and in /trek/ threads, and the simple objective fact that the official abbreviation for the show is DSC. You are a literal retard. Remove yourself from the gene pool posthaste. Or give me more shitposted (You)s, whatever.

>Isn’t there a Star Trek currently on the air?
It's a Star Trek series made by people who want to be doing their own thing and would have been better off making their own series, but sci fi is damn near impossible to break into without brand name recognition so they had to slap star trek in the title.

I was actually really hoping that Yaphit was going to control that one Kaylon he entered like a puppet. That would have been an interesting outcome that I don't think any of us had predicted.

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I mean issac not murding the entire crew and destroying earth was kind of a given, and I thought the episode mixed it up enough to keep it fresh personally
krill involvement, etc
I really, really liked the episode. Probably one of my favorite trek-related pieces of media i've watched in the last few years

We're better off that he didn't. He doesn't need to start with the power creep. Before you know it, he would replace the whole star-ship computer with his blob penis.

it was already a bit of a stretch that he was able to learn every bit of kaylon infrastructure just by going inside of them, controlling them would've gone a little too far

>DSC is official
according to whom?
that doesn't even make any sense, with singular word star trek titles (VOYager, ENTerprise) they always take the first three letters so it should be DIS
But the overwhellming majority of the people talking about it on both sides use STD so im just gonna keep using that :^)
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>I mean issac not murding the entire crew and destroying earth was kind of a given
While that's true, it wasn't outside the realm of possibilities of the actor that plays Issac leaving the show, and using this as a way to write him off. Having him not make the predicted turn of face. Unlikely, but possible.
No, I don't mean controlling him. I mean actually wearing his dead shell like a puppet, and trying to fake being one to the rest of the Kaylons.

Don't feed the troll.

I was just glad that he didn’t die frying its circuits. I was genuinely concerned that we’d be losing based Norm when they showed him get fried. Also doesn’t this make Yaphit the first non-Kaylon to learn about Kaylon physiology?

I don't think you can kill a blob

Yeah, a saggy unconvincing robo puppet act would have been pretty funny.

>according to whom?
according to the creators of the show you brain dead shitposter :^)
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>they always take the first three letters so it should be DIS
My favorite Star Trek in that case is THE, or maybe it's DEE :^)
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>But the overwhellming majority of the people talking about it on both sides use STD
the overhwleming majority of shitposters, sure. nobody else uses the term :^)
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>responding to a troll and telling it not to respond to people posting factual information
literal retard.

I love it when people get mad about calling it STD. It's so easy.

/trek/ here, STD shills aren't welcome over here either. The only fans of Discovery are shills and legitimate retards with actual garbage taste.

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I'm fairly sure he's just responding to himself now.

Still not as easy as calling out autistic incels and watching the screeching begin.

So, whats everyone ITTs opinion about STD?

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>those lighting effects
did they use physical props with a real light source for the ships in this scene?

I didn't think using those like that would work but it did

STOP

It's probably only a matter of time until he has some reason to climb inside a space suit and walk around like a reanimated corpse.

worked to what, mock you by pointing out how retarded your shitposting was? go back to the /trek/ thread, nerd.

>legitimate retards
Like std Spock ;)

>indian guy on right is in both orville and expanse
it's like he brings the kino

He also played Bashir's father in Deep Space 9. At least I think that's him.

he's a "that guy" actor. it'd be harder to name something he wasn't in.

You people have been bitching about the season all year long. Does the finale really deliver that well?

It went exactly as predicted. They were doing nothing but on ship episodes because they were saving their entire budget for this two parter, and it did not disappoint.

>funny version of Star Trek TNG/ TOS
>Progressive ideology, but doesn't force it down your throat or include it at the expense of entertaining characters
>no lens flare

For example, take gay shit. They deliver it smartly by saying the Moclans are a male-only species. So you have the same-sex relationship inclusion but it makes sense for their species.

Also, take the episode where Seth fucks a guy. It's more gay shit, but it's explained by the fact that the other dude's species releases pheromones and ties into other plot points.

I don't mind SJW shit in entertainment as long as it's entertaining and not ham-fisted tropes likes Mary Sue lesbians or sassy, short haired black women.

Season 2 ratings are like a constant 3 million an episode except for the season premiere.

Just look it up on wiki or imdb.

I think he's confirmed that theory.

You are really bad at this.

get a room you STD riddled queers.

>>Also, take the episode where Seth fucks a guy. It's more gay shit, but it's explained by the fact that the other dude's species releases pheromones and ties into other plot points.
It's also not gay to be banged by Rob Lowe.

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>heh, i'm not an incel at all, i'm just going to obsessively reply to your post about incels to tell you that I'm not an incel.

It's not the season finally.

Identity part 2 was a decent enough, although I liked the first part a bit more.

There's 3 more episodes to go but 8+9 were fantastic, at least relative to the rest of the season and to the other Star Trek parody airing now.

Fair enough, thanks. I got the sense they were saving the season's budget for this part of the season, but I guess if it ends up good I'll keep being on board

I thought the first few episodes of this season were good.

The Alara farewell episode was done really well.

The middle few episodes before Identity are sort of bland.

I don't really know if they can top Mr. Potatoes Head, leg amputation, or dead-Issac

dead-beat Issac

How did they make 20+ episodes a year of TNG, but most "expensive" shows these days only manage like 10 a year?

fuck this gay Earth.

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I dunno if you noticed this man but, I love TNG but it kinda looks like shit. Also half the episodes were pretty bad and most of the actors weren't great either.

you answered your own question. production values of network television shows today are astronomical compared to shows in the past. the CGI in the latest Orville two parter probably cost more to produce than an entire season of TNG.

Still havent heard Bortis sing.

Those arms crack me up.

Composition on tape with real models is more expensive than cgi.

"No."

youtube.com/watch?v=2RVf01en-YA

If you think the former was displaced the latter for any reason other than cost I have a bridge in brooklyn that I can get you a sweet deal on.

At the time, TNG was state of the art for TV making.

Look at the state of the art TV shows now? They manage like half as much per year.

Even something like The Orville which has the benefit of cheap CGI (although it does use some models for ships), is only like 10 or 11 a year.

>I love TNG but it kinda looks like shit. Also half the episodes were pretty bad

Are you watching the HD versions? Thank God TNG was shot on 35 mm. Even the "bad" episodes are quite watchable. Just because some modern critic doesn't think some plot point makes sense in a 30 year old show, doesn't mean an episode was bad.

>Composition on tape with real models is more expensive than cgi.

dude, you can go to your local hobby shop and buy a sherman tank for 30 bucks, paint to paint it for 10. then, film it with your camera phone. load it onto the computer and use Printmaster to edit it and voila . all in all it costs like 100 bucks and 20 man hours

>At the time, TNG was state of the art for TV making.

Imagine actually thinking this. TNG was a syndicated weekend afternoon show. TV status equivalent to a soap opera.

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Good luck animating something you bought off the shelf without it looking like a showa era godzilla flick. Building a model is only one part of the process. You have to have a studio. You have to have cinematographers doing lighting. You have to have practical effects guys on set. You need to plan / shoot / animate the scene.
It's a ton of specialized labor that takes time and time is money. The reason its gone is because cgi is cheaper. It's just one dude or one outsourced shop of dudes.

His thumbs are resting on his belt. The Kazon would have to be exerting a constant physical force to hold their arms like that.

That premiered, usually, on a Thursday or Friday night with a budget of $1.3 million in the late 80s and early 90s.

Name a show from that era with better technical effects.

>I thought this was a McMeme comedy spoof

It is, and fuck you if you like it

They're robots, their limbs would stay in whatever position they "lock" them in without any need for constant force. It'd be like if humans had locking bolts in their shoulders, elbows, and wrists that they could toggle at will. You could just lock into that position and be fine, especially if your joints were space magic metal that can withstand the extra stress indefinitely and not fragile bone.

My only qualm with the last episode is that the Kaylons canon power level was decimated. They're supposedly super advanced but their fleet didn't notice when primary and secondary and a whole ship were deactivated, and they didn't even do shit like count the amount of humans in the shuttle bay and keep track of it to see if people were missing. Plus if they were that advanced biological ships shouldn't be a real threat to them.

But the nerf was for the purpose of the story, which was ultimately really good. Isaac coming back over to the crew was done in the best possible way.

I just realized you were talking about the actor and not the character.

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fucking boo for Isaac being named after Isaac Newton rather than Isaac, the one who would be sacrificed by his father

>That premiered, usually, on a Thursday or Friday night with a budget of $1.3 million in the late 80s and early 90s.

and according to budget reports from fox the orville costs somewhere between 4-7 millions per episode. discovery costs even more than that per episode. turns out good CGI is really fucking expensive

The last two episodes of Orville pretty much cemented its legacy as forever > STD.

They make the CGI unnecessarily expensive by imitating Abrams bullshit.

Why Did She Have to Leave Men?

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opportunity to have her cuteness recognized on a greater stage

Also, it can’t be overstated... Ed just got the humans and the Krill to fight together against a common for. And I can actually see the xenophobic Krill viewing the robots as a godless abomination far more damned in Avis’s eyes than a mortal race.

It's your fault. She could hear you fapping.

>Why not named after the superior in intelligence Einstein
More like

Soon, the severed robot limbs will rain into Earth atmosphere, the humans will rebuild them out of curiosity, and the invasion will be renewed.

20+ show seasons are on the way out because they contain too much filler. It's all gravitating toward the brit shorter season model: higher quality with more focused and tighter writing.

> next week's episode isn't about genociding the Kaylon toasters

Would think Earth might be a little more focused on the immediate problem

establishing relations with your historic enemies who have an enormous military advantage and are in position to destroy your homeworld is a pretty fucking immediate problem

Quantum drive super nuke.

>more focused writing.
the problem here is that it relies on a serialized drama format rather than a procedural exploration/adventure format that Trek was famous for. the entire reason TV is shit today is because everyone is doing that less-is-more "focused writing" shtick, except they fail to realize that fewer episodes doesn't somehow magically make the writing better, and having 4 or 5 of your 10 episode season being boring human drama character development garbage that builds up to an "emotional payoff" finale is a much, much higher portion of shit per season than having half a dozen duds in a 24 episode season.

>they contain too much filler.
There's no such thing as filler in an anthology series like Star Trek. The show isn't about having a linear story and end goal in mind, it's about "going where no man has gone before", limitless adventure, etc. That was its entire charm and appeal. discovery is a flop because it did away with this and tried to copy the grimdark pessimistic written-like-a-book trend. it's also why so many people are finding the orville and enjoying it and calling it the closest thing to a real star trek series they've seen in 14 years.

is the whole season over yet? i want to torrent the whole thing

Nope, 5 more eps to go, I think. 14 in total this season due to the one they held back from season 1.

she will probably never do anything noteworthy ever again.

Surely that never happens.

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Hey she was on Becker! Becker, damnit.

>the entire reason TV is shit today is because everyone is doing that less-is-more "focused writing" shtick, except they fail to realize that fewer episodes doesn't somehow magically make the writing better

Fucking preach, brother. I don't know why people don't seem to realize this.

Weeding out shills because they have forbidden words is the funniest thing ever

Also because DS9 did a grimdarkish serial storyline better 20 years ago.

Who was the greater man, Martin Luther King, Or Stalin?

STD fans don't even know about DS9. Remember they originally tried to market Sequoya as the first black leading actor on a Star Trek series and seriously thought they would get away with it.

Why would Ed get in trouble when Isaac is still alive.

It started out pretty funny in season 1 and the humour is toned down a lot in season 2. Basically the ginger guy is the only one left being funny and the occasional amusing situation. I'm loving Orville but i miss it being more funny, i'd like more jokes in general

Never forget, there are no real fans of STD. It's actually impossible because the show is so irredeemably garbage. If you see someone claiming to 'enjoy' or 'like' STD they are either trolling or an actual paid CBS shill (who have been confirmed to be targeting boards like this and others in a 'grass roots' campaign).

The Orville's fanbase is entirely natural and discussion is welcomed - STD shills please leave.

>see Million Ways to Die in the West, biggest example of him being in way over his head on his current abilities

I can't explain why, but i love Million Ways to Die in the West, it's funny and charming *shrugs*

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Orville is a passion project for some chubby asshole who got rich off fart jokes.
STD is a major production that tics all the diversity and wokeness boxes.
Which one is more likely to have dedicated shill group?

The SFX was mind-blowing for the time, everyone thought this. The only ther TV series up there was X-Files and that had the fraction of the SFX that TNG had.

I thought that but then i i thought a few seconds later that would have been too on the nose and obvious for a TV show. It was the right call IMO

BARITONE MAN BAD
DENVER KEKOLDS GOOD

>The SFX was mind-blowing for the time, everyone thought this.

No they fucking didn't. Movies existed at this time. TV effects were second-rate because TV was a second-rate artform. No one was impressed by ST's effects because if that's what they wanted to see they could see vastly superior effects in a movie theater.

For a TV series you moron

"Impressive for a TV series" is a meaningless statement.

>Name a show from that era with better technical effects

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>meaningless statement
Oh boy ho ho yikes somebody doesn't know tv or movies

>graphics rendered on an Amiga
you're not helping your case

Identity part 2:
m.youtube.com/watch?v=BsyLFBSkKmY

no season 3 sorry

Its great, but Seth just doesnt know how to act serious and be a real captain. The last two episodes where fucking hundreds of people die including his own crew and hes just fucking around with the same god damn dumb look on his face.

The banana ray was hilarious what are you on about

>series suddenly jumps from barely anyone dying and rare combat to FULL BLOWN TOTAL WAR with fucking THOUSANDS murdered in 80 minutes including half the crew and suddenly the Krill are just a-okay with helping humans
Jesus MacFarlane if you're going to drop a bomb like that you've got to build it up more

>catching up on orville because apparently last two episodes were god-tier
Just saw the one with Mocklans. How in the flying fuck is anybody supposed to start liking nu-shit-Alara? So as long as they don't like gays it's ok for her to be racist as fuck against them? I thought racism was bad? They didn't seem to have a problem with the matriarchal society that needed the male captain punched in the face to help them but she has a problem with this society because they don't tolerate gays. God fucking dammit why did they ruin Alara?

This is the problem with a 13 episode season. They have no time to build it up more because they're too busy writing yet another fucking Bortus episode.

Cringe.

Fox is pushing hard on the episodes being episodic. A two parter was already a stretch. Supposedly the krill involvement was supposed to extend over a couple of episodes and original outlines for the season were supposed to have multi part episodes.

I think it's because Fox wants to syndicate the show that they're pushing hard for none over arching story. Personally I really wish it would be more like DS9 with more lead up time to conflict.

>Yaphit sacrificing himself to save Tai because he promised Claire he'd protect him.
It's little character moments like that which really make for a good show.

>Quantum drive
Can we all take a moment to realize how fucking stupid this technology is. The moment you can travel faster than light you can literally send a pea traveling FTL into any ship and destroy it. Or better yet a whole planet and there is LITERALLY nothing you could do to stop it.

WHY DIDNT HE USE THOSE GUNS WHEN HE WAS TRAPPED ON THE PLANET WITH THE KIDS

OR ANY OTHER FIGHTING SITUATION

Yaphit was the real MVP.

>gotta defend womans at all costs
*tips*

Because he was there on a "diplomatic" mission and suddenly revealing that he had head cannons would raise questions he couldn't realistically answer without raising more questions in the process.

It's just one of the obviously retarded things you simply accept about the setting, same with the abundance of humanoids let alone extraterrestrials having kids with humans

he was working under cover. he was a mole, and he had claimed earlier in the season that the eyes were put there for the sake of the humans to make him appear more trust worthy.

can't all of a sudden show off your head cannons when you're deep in infiltration

Ironically it's based on an actual theoretical design called the Alcubierre drive.

eh
when they "drop out" of quantum drive they don't seem to be going at a near lightspeed, but relatively slow
I guess it's like traveling through another dimension, instead of just going through our 3 with a super-light speed?

>YOU.
>WILL.
>ALWAYS.
>BE.
>ALONE.
Poor Isaac.

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Why was the Primary such a dick

I agree fully, I thought he was going to be imba anti robot but when I saw him oozing our all fucker up it gave a real gravity to what you just saw happen

i wonder if Isaac is still remote controlled or is he completely independent now.

Also will Mercer ever get snake poosy?

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The Alcubierre drive or Alcubierre warp drive (or Alcubierre metric, referring to metric tensor) is a speculative idea based on a solution of Einstein's field equations in general relativity as proposed by Mexican theoretical physicist Miguel Alcubierre, by which a spacecraft could achieve apparent faster-than-light travel if a configurable energy-density field lower than that of vacuum (that is, negative mass) could be created.

Rather than exceeding the speed of light within a local reference frame, a spacecraft would traverse distances by contracting space in front of it and expanding space behind it, resulting in effective faster-than-light travel. Objects cannot accelerate to the speed of light within normal spacetime; instead, the Alcubierre drive shifts space around an object so that the object would arrive at its destination faster than light would in normal space without breaking any physical laws.

reminder that Isaac spend several centuries on a planet 'living' among the very human-like organics

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Since you're incapable of humour, I must conclude that you're american

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OBSESSED

/yfw you realise the eyeglow is actually the muzzles on their blasters up against the inside of the faceplate.

>The drive's setup can be compared with other Science Fiction drives of known speed. Compared to Star Trek's USS Voyager, that needs around a century to travel 70,000 light years, or 2.739 light years a day, the Orville can travel ten light years a hour, or 240 light years a day, a factor of almost 88.
N-ANI??

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wonder if intentional back to the future reference.

This makes one wonder just how fucking far the Union fleet was from Earth if they couldn't make it back for weeks.

That scene will never stop being funny.

I've honestly been thinking that the Primary didn't factor this into their calculations. Several years of interactions with organics wouldn't have time to change Isaac but centuries of watching a culture and society evolve and change would have a great impact on him.

Weirdest ship in the fleet. Everyone thinks they're the b-team of exploratory vessels.

Yet they have the best pilot; the most knowledgeable science officer; the best Moclan-designed shield system; a genius engineer; a technician blob who can fix/rewire anything, no matter how inaccessable; Fred goddamn Johnson in civilian disguise; best tits in the fleet with Ensign Cupcakes; etc.

Let's face it: this crew is the A-team in the process of being formed.

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Given the Kaylon's history I wonder what type of leadership structure they actually have. Kaylon Primary seemed to be the leader but was he elected or a dictator? Now that he's gone how will the Kaylon back on the homeworld react? It's possible he had a backup there and just downloaded himself into a new robot as if he had never left.

the orville's crew reminds me a lot of DS9's, or any after hours job if you've had one. after hours teams are considered C team because they work at night, they're mostly antisocial, and don't make enough noise to get promotions or recognition. they're also the teams that have to handle shit that's on fire with the least amount of resources. so in reality they have skills and knowledge that far exceeds the day crews, they just don't get acknowledgement for it.

It's a fucking sitcom how autistic are you?

Its still fucking funny

It was probably random, they just selected one member to be the leader with a prime directive and then each other member does some sub directive.

They are basically a hive mind but are able to develop independently, so not quite.

I always assumed they were going "around" space rather than through it, if that makes any sense

The best pilot is a loose cannon without Ed there to keep him in line, it is why he was benched in the pilot episode because he kept fucking everything up because he was bored/thought it was funny. Ed keeps him focused while giving him enough leeway to stop going crazy.
Isaac I'll grant you but they probably didn't trust him on a major command ship despite trying to get the Kaylon on side, which probably also helped Isaacs mission now I think about it. Easy to forget about him on a smaller ship that rarely comes into dock.
The shield system was experimental which has some risks.
Lamarr being a genius Engineer was partly him being dumped on the Orville for not living up to his potential and/or not wanting to rise too high.
There is a chance that Yaphits people are common on other ships(we really haven't seen much of other ships I admit).
And Fred Johnson and Ensign Cupcakes are valid.

But the ship is a bunch of midrange fuck-ups who Ed is basically tuning into a great machine through good command and great understanding of how to manage his people.

Actually thinking back to the pilot Ed had some of the highest marks in his class at the academy and bombed out of his career after Kelly fucked Darulio.
Kelly, Bortus and the Doctor are the only people who aren't utter career fuck-ups in the main crew.
And the Doctor kind of had her pick of ships and chose the Orville over much bigger posts which is kind of interesting now I think of it.

It doesn't matter really, any form of FTL requires more energy than humanly possible to contain and release. FTL is never going to be a thing for humans.

They really fucked up by making her the same species, rank, and station as the character they lost. At least when they replaced Dax in DS9, they gave her a different profession to make her seem like less of a blatant recast

My point is if they're not going through space you couldn't use the FTL as an insta-kill torpedo

the departure was sudden and they needed to keep the whole that species is super strong bit.

From what I've heard the actress leaving was unexpected and they had to replace her with a similar character so they wouldn't have to rewrite all of the season's scripts

>but he also doesn't constantly force his own ideology into every episode of everything

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Have they actually done anything with the replacement that even matters? She's got shot twice and that's it I think.

the cast was probably complaining about favoritism because seth was filling her holes off set.

Well the galaxy is 100,000 light years long so it’s take 416 days to travel across it on Orville, little over a year

So it’s not inconceivable that they were like 1/4th that distance from earth

>phoneposting 2016 /pol/ tourist who doesn't watch his shows decides to shitpost
>responds to posts from 7 hours ago
big shock

They should have said that when he woke up Isaac cut his connection to kaylon so they can’t just shut him off remotely again

>seth was filling her holes off set.
Not unless she was a man. Seth is obviously gay

Moclan eps are everyone’s least favorite now

Though the very first bortus ep wasn’t bad

Having two almost in a row this season was a bad idea

He probably scarred poor ty for life with this

This is what shilling looks like

t. STD shill

My main problem with Orville:

>not doing anything with Isaac or his race
>comedy needless
>not enough action
>too much interpersonal stuff and not enough space stuff

These last 2 eps were basically the polar opposite of all those

I’m satisfied now

>how dare people like something I don't like, they must be shills.

Den of Geek gave this ep a 3/5 because they thought the crew didn’t use enough ingenuity and relied too much on violence to defeat the kaylon

By comparison they gave the last STD ep a 5/5

Suspicious

It is, but it gets real some times.

meth alara is way worse

>Den of Geek gave this ep a 3/5 because they thought the crew didn’t use enough ingenuity and relied too much on violence to defeat the kaylon
It would have been incredibly disappointing if we didn't get a bigass battle jfc
you can't just set up a huge war and then just go
>oh well, there was no need for war anyways, we'll just go home now, cya

It's cool that they have comic relief every now and then. Gordon is comedy gold, also some other minor characters like Yafit.

it literally didn't at all you fucking brainlet, the latest star trek episode where burnham lands on vulcan has way more depth and complexity to the flat panning shots that orville shits out

orville > std in terms of story, but stop trying to make this meme level argument about the CG

>Mcmeme
Cringe. no wonder your incel ass finds this as the best sci fi on tv

The union was the one that let Isaac on the ship

He got permission from the union to go to kaylon and it seemed like a logicial course of action

His actions helped save earth

His influence undoubtedly was a reason Isaac turned back (see when he still calls him captain l)

Ed took the moral road by not just letting the kaylon execute crewmen by refusing to cooperate while at the same time he sabotaged them whenever he could

He handles the situation well

Yes

Please go shill on Yea Forums

No. There was nothing original about it

it's not the finale

DO NOT LISTEN TO This faggot is a motherfucking shill and is lying to you. Season 2 isn't even over yet and this week's episode was far from being a finale and far from being good.

i would have at least liked to have seen some of the "research" isaac was doing go into a battle tactic

It's Den of Geek, they're nothing but trash.

DS9
SeaQuest
Buffy

Now THAT'S shilling.

as an aside, how about is std s2 compared to std s1?

Considerably worse due to a lack of based Lorca. To be fair season 1 turned to shit right after he died too.

how bad*
fuck me im having a stroke

It's better than season one but that isn't saying much

Dude it's sci-fi. If you applied "magical FTL physics" to an object the episode would have gone
>Kaylons decide to exterminate earth
>They send a thousand FTL death cigars to surround earth and before Earth even knows what has hit it, they launch a dozen stealthed mega-nukes
>Each cigar then plows into earth going at FTL speed before the nukes hit it.

>far from being good

Are you sure you watched the right show

Get ready for three consecutive episodes about muh divorce

I wish there was more opportunity for stuff like this. Maybe some less serious banter with other crew members.

Just to be clear, is he still training to be an officer?
youtube.com/watch?v=Ni8xfQCKF-k

>Maybe some less serious banter with other crew members
That did happen a few times in the first season, but I don't think it has happened since.

After hearing the hype, I watched a few episodes.
If it really is as popular as I've heard, the world is populated by 14-year-old girls.

Only redditors and shills like this show

This desu

the point is not The Orville is good, the point is the other scifi shows are shit

this being the best scifi show currently airing just illustrates how absolute wank they all are

>i hate fun
Why?

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Its not funny enough, taking it too serious, it needs more slap stick and one liners.

No, this is shilling.

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aside from shilling STD seems to get a pass from some people for essentially tomb-raiding for canon references to distract people from the poor quality of the OC donut steels
>hey remember spack

>brit coinage before decimalization
What beauts.

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Fucking amazing, isn’t it?

kino

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He was a mole, who was about to be killed on the cannibal planet, thereby ending his mission.

Now, use his head cannons to kill the cannibals, then kill Clair and the kids because they saw too much.... that would make sense.