This goes to the filmmaker anons

>chad
>dude just shoot already lmao

>virgin
>order... and structure... are essential..... haha..... guys be prepared... haha.... no good scenes were ever ad-libbed or made up on the spot...haha..hes a DINGUS!! xD

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Screenwriting 101

>samefagging to your own post
pathetic

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i guess i scared him away

saving kino one shitpost at a time

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>There's nothing wrong with wanting to be prepared.
You like to daydream about making movies more than you like making movies it seems.

>get dabbed on
>hes samefagging!!?!!11

fuckin redditers

cmon and prove how im wrong though
if you truly know ALL adobe products you should make a movie no problem

how hard is it to write interior in notepad u gigantic faggot

there's a reason why screenwriters are bitches and get coffee in real offices they are replaceable and not that important as a sound guy

Lmao this is retarded. The real way to make it in Hollywood isn't to "do it yourself bro".

The real way is, FUND it yourself. Spend like 50k on a short film and get it into a major festival. Don't waste your time learning how to do everything yourself, hire people who have the skills already.

Should've known this was going to happen :/

you understand why the majority of modern movies suck is not due to the technical proficiency of the individuals behind them but luck of good scripts and directors

I hope there's women and minorities in your screenplay otherwise it's going straight into the strash

>i am interested into getting into screenwriting,where do i start
Start by trying to write sub 10 minute films
Avoid genre elements, don't do horror, don't do supernatural, don't do crime.
Try to write sub 10 minute, simple, drama.
Write a lot of them.
Focus on character and dialogue.

If you can't do that, you have no business writing anything longer and you have no buisiness going anywhere near genre elements, because those still need substance behind them or they're just boring, like 99% of films like that.

The other plus is that if you write sub 10 minute simple dramas, you can actually realistically make them or have someone else make them.

thank you for your input

Tfw I pitched my screenplay to multiple celebrities last year and they all refused to read it. Bob Odenkirk was nice and gave me career advice though.

>dude just magically spend 50k on a short film

are u literally retarded?

El Mariachi was literally shot for $7,000

eraserhead cost only 10k

theres literally not much to learn when it comes to film making god damn ur dense as hell

modern movies suck because of people like you and this awful mindset

literally all the best film makers who do classes like herzog or lynch say to do it yourself

gee what do they know?

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If you want an idea of the kind of thing i'm talking about, go and watch the original high maintenance or broad city webseries.

Both made for basically no money, start out not great, and they just grinded their way into experience, and an audience.

I think some of the high maintenance webseries episodes especially, are incredibly well written and realised. I think you can find them on torrent sites.

You just need a good smartphone and a YouTube account. Then make interesting content

what herzog says is;
read read read read read read read read anything just read fiction read novels read nonfiction read read read read read

and I agree with him

Eraserhead cost 100k actually. El Mariachi cost like 150k after post production. Even Primer cost 50k after post production.

I've been studying this for years, movies are not cheap buddy. Yes obviously it helps to know about the process, but films cost lots of money if you want to reach mainstream success.

>You can make a movie with a photo editing software

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Bob Odenkirk has some good EP credits like Pen15 is really really good, that's his production company.
Catastrophe as well

don't bother the man is retarded

it's not gonna be a GOOD movie

but yes you can basically assemble a basic movie in photoshop if you are a true master of the software by using it creatively in ways it was not meant to be used

take for example the BIG LEZ SHOW

it was made in MSpaint and has such a unique art style and fanbase

still waiting on proof you even know how to use any of the software you name dropped

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what was his advice then

He was a really nice guy desu, he just told me he didn't have time to read screenplays. His advice to me was to join an improv class to meet creative people and start writing a new script so I don't obsess over my first one.

movies are cheap u fag lol

a simply google search proves you wrong

my figures are correct and primer cost 7,000$

i want these dumb fucking coon redditor niggers to leave

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Will there be a Lords of Chaos 2 with Vargas in prison. Maybe he gets haunted by Euronymouse. Then in the end he kills the ghost

>films cost lots of money if you want to reach mainstream success.
Yeah, don't start making films though.
youtube.com/watch?v=lDXmMI6u2lU
that's the first episode of the broad city web series. It's not good. It doesn't have good production values. It's practice. They get better.

youtube.com/watch?v=r4EjRQ72kQU
That's a short film Taika Waititi (Thor Ragnarok, What we Do in the Shadows, Boy), made. It's terrible. It has terrible production values.

Those are the kind of things succesful people start out making. You can bang something like that out in an afternoon with a couple friends and a cellphone and a laptop.

So often I see here;
>I want to be a famous director so i'm writing a 120 minute high concept crime fantasy film which I'll never make
It's just such a totally delusional approach.

The key thing about those two examples is they aren't even trying to 'make it', they're just having fun and making stuff. Do that.

Give up before you waste more time.

I'm not surprised. He seems like a real GC.

I just watched a clip yesterday of Shane Carruth saying Primer cost nearly 50k after post production. And everyone knows El Mariachi didn't really cost 7k lmao, if you include post it's over 150k.

And I'm very familiar with Lynch, the initial budget for the film was 10K (NOT adjusted for inflation). But it ballooned to around 100k because he kept investing in the film for several years till it was completed.

If you want to delude yourself into thinking filmmaking costs nothing that's fine, but I don't want to live in a fantasy world, I want to succeed at this.

why do you think hes lashing out at my chad path advice of lol just go shoot bro?

hes a phony

he still hasnt proved me wrong or a retard despite thats all he can say to me

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>I want to succeed at this.
You shouldn't focus on being successful.

>(NOT adjusted for inflation).

its because that means DVD sales, marketing, getting the word out

physically filming the movie didn't cost more then that god damn go find me the clips then because you don't know what the fuck your talking about

I want to make something as good as True Detective season 1 someday, or Twin Peaks season 3. I'm not just doing this "as a hobby" or for fun, I want to contribute something of quality.

suck my big cock u dumb ass

do u know what the words budget mean?

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Are you doing it at all? Have you made anything yet?
Making a bunch of shit, and not taking yourself too seriously and not thinking ahead too far, is a necessary step along the path to greatness.

he posted a picture of varg

hes gonna close this thread and watch blacked while making nigger hate threads on pol after this user...

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While obnoxious this user has a point. Everybody starts making shit and the fact that most aspiring film makers keep having this reverence to just "get started" in contemporary times is just ridiculous.

You can get high quality tools and pirate most if not anything nowadays. While understandable that you want to start with a good script on your film project the reality is that you won't no one does. Even those legendary one and ready script makers are lying, no one gets off the ground on their actual first script.

Saying all of this if you even have a minimal notion of ever actually directing stuff, if you just want to get on the writting side then do as you will, just don't lie to yourself.

And also you're way more likely to be successful if you have a bunch of supportive creative people around you with similiar goals, Peter Jackon with Richard Taylor etc.

So it's key to have fun doing it, because you're all not going to be making money when you start. If it's not fun to work with you, you won't get anywhere.

I try to make a short film on my own every week. Obviously filmmaking isn't all about money, but my point is that you shouldn't look down upon money either. It can be useful depending on what you're trying to create.

>I want to contribute something of quality
That is why you fail.
They don't want quality. They want advertisements that their friends provide. You can't sell what they want to sell, and you're not their friend.

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It's several anons saying the same thing btw so don't use a percieved offense to discount what we're saying.

he is not me you fucking faggot,idk how many anos are fucking fighting in this shitty thread i just asked for god damn advice on screenwriting, god damn it

I get the point that you should film and edit with whatever tools are available to you at the moment. I just don't see how you can do that on photoshop. If you said something like WMM I'd see what you mean.

Just like vydia, you will never make it today as a pure writer, because the market is simply too narrow and flooded with try hards and wanna bes .

Your best bet is to look into some filmmaking, make a few movies, build up a following and have a career behind you. Once you've established yourself, then you can look into doing writing full time. Also, don't even dream of sending in a script to anyone without an agent backing you, they will literally throw your script into the garbage

>has never used Yea Forums before

Im specificaly talking about the guy

making

these

spaced

posts

But sure i do share the overall sentiment of the thread, even of that user. Not discounting you lads at all.

just make the movie a giant gif
photoshops can do gifs

you can also just do a stopmotion movie

the point im trying to make is that you have to be creative

and this faggot claims hes all that and knows all the tools but most likely never did anything

Oh yeah, of course. Filmmaking is of course extremely expensive.
I agree.
It's just also possible to make very low budget stuff.

The creative fundamentals, like writing, acting, and directing, don't cost any money.
And a project that gets those right is FAR more watchable than something with high production values and no creative story value, which is 95% of lowish budget short films from aspiring creatives who simply don't have the talent or have their priorities totally wrong.

Want to make a slasher maybe one location max. It's easier to control variables amd lighting. Honestly how would i go about creating a unique slasher icon guys?

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These videos inspire me

why

does

this

matter

is it because

im

btfoing you

and you are getting shook?

Waste of time on this board. If you're serious go to reddit or actual filmmaking forums. Anons are stupid and untalented, they have nothing to offer you than stale memes stolen from funnier people.

Good luck with your future filmmaking attempts bros.

The succesful writers tend to have close working relationships with directors.
Like Joachim Trier's best friend from filmschool co-writes all his films
Jane Campions best friend from film school co-writes all her projects.
etc etc

You really want to tie your horse to the right wagon if you want to be a screenwriter.

Rude.

The one piece of advice i'll give, is the first thing you should spend money on is food. If you're getting people to work for you for free, or if you're paying them, feed them really well.

If you feed them well, they'll do much better work.

Catering is the most fundamental part of filmmaking.

reddit is unironically even more creatively bankrupt and filled of retards no talent placating and coddling people like yourself obviously

please only reply to me if you actually cut together video before

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lol why is everybody so fucking mad.

>to reach mainstream success

On top of the other useful replies to this post, this is something I think also useful to emphasize. If you care about “mainstream success” or acceptance, that’s its own huge thing and requires a shitload of money, networking- essentially whoring yourself out, the movie comes last after all of this.
It’s another to be satisfied without this dream of Hollywood and just make art completely on your own terms and finances. I care about making movies because I love making movies and couldn’t give a flying fuck about any idea of mainstream success (whatever that means). So, to echo everyone else’s posts, just write and shoot something.
t. independent filmmaker with physical/digital distribution of debut feature length film

>take my time to correct this retard and set him on the right path
>no.. your retarded user im going to reddit

and yeahhh imma just go back and work on my project and actually get stuff done

tootles :)

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people with a modicum of involvement or experience or interest in filmmaking are often dickheads about it lol

oh my god people like you are the reasons why dev producers get sent 100s of screenplays that all fucking suck. screenwriting is an art and only a few dozen people in this world can craft a good screenplay.

Good luck with your project user!

Can I get some feedback on this little film I made last year?

youtube.com/watch?v=mxAxHbKU3Wk

No. Reddit had more talent hovering around it than Yea Forums which is full of anons who have done absolutely nothing. Plus actual industry professionals including actors and directors interact regularly with redditors.

Yea Forums has nothing of the sort and threads like these always languish and die to make room for the 509th capeshit/anime thread.

now this is why i was bumping this thread
how did you do the white noise effect?

bretty gud 7/10
does it suffer from not having dialog?

Kek

I swear on me mum if this has a jump scare.

>Yea Forums helped make minecraft one of the biggest money makers of all time
>reddit..has..more talent...

so why dont you just fuck off to there then if you love them so much?

oh wait its most likely cuz the mods auto deleted your cuckpost because they are also filled with retards like u

dont user, I don't think there's an actual repped writer/director in this thread so you're definitely getting bad advice.

the job of a screenwriter isn't to write movies, it's usually to rewrite them. Most screenwriters are in TV because it's much easier. But even then a writer's PA is the most coveted job in the film industry and unless you take an incredibly big gamble and have at least a 7/10 Charisma and Speech then you wont make it because this place is 70% contacts 30% talent. Most people that fail fail to ever acquire both because they cry that it's impossible to get the former despite having none of the latter.

Former Bad Hat Harry employee here, Sony now... why are all of you so angry right now? It is so spicy in here

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wrong

gatekeeping necessary of any good art form

user got his feefees hurt so he wont ever cut it in the big world

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I worked at Sony last year for a year we should get coffee pussy

If you are not a jew or aren't friend with jews don't even try it

I don't remember much about how I made it. I was on a deadline so that's why it's basically a silent film lmao.

Too bad I'm a lazy fuck and haven't made anything since. It's hard for me to get motivated, but I just started working on my second short

Nah user, I say this from a place where I was lucky enough to have been mentored by very big name people. But the only reason I got that was because I did 8 internships in college and forced my way into meeting big wigs that took me under their wing.

user over here has to
A) Move to LA
B) Compete with USC kids that basically have a monopoly on entry level film next to NYU
C) Make meaningful connections that will get them a legit job

I say don't do it because there's a good chance you'll fail and become miserable like all the other Creative Execs working at dying indie production companies under Boomers with hundreds of thousands of contacts that can't open a PDF file and pay you half of a full time salary.

thanks user hopefully i'll be able to make demo day 25

Fuck yeah we should, is this Scott faggot?

This is pretty much mandatory reading. Filmmaking is pretty embarrassing, there’s something effeminate or childish about it and Tarkovsky definently felt that. The book is about justifying the whole act and seeing an actual genuine purpose in wanting to make a film.

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Two famous actors are actually school buddies of mine, one is coming on Saturday for a BBQ. Figure if I wanted to get into film shit I could just ask them. Nepotism, OP.

I don't know what to tell you user, it seems like a nice technical demo to have imposed to yourself to actually finish but aside from that i'm not getting much mood out of it i get that you included the digital trickery like the chrmoatic aberration and similar stuff to generate a contrast with the somber mood itself but without a reason it's basicaly things for the sake of things isn't it? I'm willing to be proven wrong and this actually bein 2deep4me but from my stand point i can't see how.

Like i said you seem to have taken advantages of your limitations and done what you wanted to do but all of this seems a bit aimless without a discernable reason.

There's definitely no reason for it or any deeper meaning, the only goal was creating an atmosphere. If it didn't create a mood then I failed

I see, i'd say you did outside of as mentioned before the digital memery. Maybe some more work on the sound itself to make it a bit more cohesive if wanted to keep it.

You must be loyle to your kapo

Chris?

The only problem that’s really glaring is the guy in the sweatshirt rocking back and forth and sort of looking aimless. It kills the mood because his body language was so nonchalant. He should be completely still and tense or just act in a way that adds to the overall tone. I did like the closeups and thought they looked really high quality. Sure it’s just sort of random but I get it’s an emotional cerebral thing. It didn’t make me cringe or anything atleast

>ideal guys

discord.gg/j3YMrB

>The real way is, FUND it yourself. Spend like 50k on a short film and get it into a major festival
I don't think you need to spend 50K to do this, but regardless where do you go from there? Tons of people get there stuff into festivals every year but their careers never take off.

Those movies were shot on film decades ago which was way more expensive, and they're feature length. There's no reason why a digital short should cost half of what those films cost unless it's insanely ambitious in scale.

>Making a bunch of shit, and not taking yourself too seriously and not thinking ahead too far, is a necessary step along the path to greatness.
Are you sure? In pretty much any other career whether it be law or medecine or business, thinking ahead and planning for success is the best way to get there. I know film is an artistic medium but there are major elements of commerce and rationality that are required to play in the big leagues, I don't think just winging it and operating on pure instinct without taking deliberate steps to try to reach your desired level of success is a sound strategy.

Just to get into the “major festival” yes, you’re paying a decent amount to someone (marketing, representation, festival distribution company, etc). And these costs are outside the actual costs of creating the film, of course