>have to take Intro to Film class at college >most students who took this class said they watched the typical iconic movies like Citizen Kane, Goodfellas, etc. during the 3 hour screening a week. >instead my class is watching the HBO series The Leftovers. >We've been watching 2 episodes back to back every week
Today we just finished Season 1, Episode 8 where the GR leader kills herself . I've heard of this series but never watched it until now. So far I've found it to be pretty good but intense. The shock reactions from classmates during certain scenes have been pretty fun though. Guess a lot of people are easily squeamish.
What does Yea Forums think of this series? How much more of a wild ride am I in for compared to what I've already seen?
First season is genuinely pretty good, but it goes off a cliff after that and the rest of the series is borderline unwatchable. Dumb pretentious cunts will try to say otherwise.
Isaac Wood
Imagine paying 50k a year to watch pirated tv series.
Michael Scott
wasted potential
>lindelof oh right, nevermind
Logan Torres
film classes were shit 10 years ago but modern day film classes these days take it to a whole new level
Kayden Anderson
why are you wasting money on film school? do you really think they are gonna teach you how to be a successful filmmaker? why not just take that money and actually make a film?
Ryder Butler
The show shifts from a mostly grounded, fairly realistic show in season 1 to a more fantastical show in season 3. While my penis was disappointed with the diminishing amount of screen time Margaret Qualley got as the show went on, the quality actually improved. I can easily understand if people stop liking the show in season 2 or 3
Carson Cook
Absolute kino.
Forget what these faggots say, they LITERALLY don't get the series lmao. Season 2 is amazing and even better than the first. Season 3 is the last one so kinda has the same problems with other shows on their final season.
Luckily my tuition is pretty cheap compared to other colleges. My college is only $3600 a semester.
Evan Allen
Half of Yea Forums naturally decided that they hate The Leftovers because there were a few people here that started praising it a lot a little while after it ended, but it’s a genuinely good show even if it can border on melodrama sometimes. It ends precisely when it needs to. Carrie Coon is excellent.
Aiden Foster
nobody who decides to go to film school does it for the curriculum or skills (any retard can google that shit) it's really just to network and make connections with people that are either already in the entertainment industry or might have a chance of making it
John Jackson
I'm not going to a film school, but I have to take an Intro to Film class to fulfill a prerequisite for whatever reason.
Henry Ramirez
>tfw you fucked up with nora
Mason Walker
>go to film class >mention i've seen the nazi cut of baron munchausen >im now that nazi kid >people do hail hitlers to me in the hall way >im not even white
2>1>3 But 3 has the best Nora nude scene in that trailer thing.
Also, Matt episodes are the best.
James Turner
Fucking kek
Grayson Watson
turbopleb right here
Ethan Sanders
how are you supposed to make connections with people in the film industry from a middle america university or a shitty little liberal arts college no one has heard of? i get going to film school if you are going to like USC or NYU and have endless money to burn, but where and how are you gonna make connections if you are at any other school? Aren't you just gonna meet other losers who don't want a normal job?
Adrian Smith
Notice the “have to take” in his description.
Apparently many colleges will force students to take bs classes in order to keep teachers employed. They are sprinkled into every curriculum meaning that even a stem student won’t be able to avoid them. My college was pretty based and didn’t do this. I was given the choice through elective classes. Some of my other friends didn’t have this option.
Asher Miller
>The Leftovers > created by Damon Lindelof and Tom Perrotta, that aired on HBO from June 29, 2014, to June 4, 2017 > Lindelof's mother is Jewish, whereas his father was of Scandinavian descent
Cooper Gray
>Citizen Kane
Is there more of a meme movie than this? It would be a great legacy if film if it weren't for edgy redditards liking it.
Michael Reed
oh dude i fucking feel for you that show is a SLOG to watch more than one episode a week. it was great when the show first aired but if you try to watch the episodes back to back all you hear is that same fucking theme song over and over again and everything that happens loses all meaning behind the repetitious overuse of that dramatic music.
> Goes off a cliff Except season two is the best season you fucking brainlet. Jesus Christ I hate new Yea Forums.
Jackson Wilson
It’s great and it only gets better. Season 2 is a wild ride
Samuel Miller
>how are you supposed to make connections with people in the film industry from a middle america university or a shitty little liberal arts college no one has heard of? you don't. only a fucking retard would major in film in a college that isn't in the top 20 film schools in the US
Xavier Long
Don't listen to The rest of the show is just as great, with season 2 dipping in quality a tiny bit. It's an all time great and probably one of the last masterpieces HBO will ever make.
Leo Lee
Carrie Coon is good I agree but Fargo S3 was hot trash imo. Shameful compared to how kino the first 2 seasons were.
Adrian Roberts
found the dumb pretentious cunts
Nicholas Lee
I still haven’t watched Fargo S3 and my friend makes fun of me all the time because I spent like a month praising her after I finished watching The Leftovers. I could literally listen to her read the newspaper dramatically, she’s fucking solid.
Colton Hall
you can atleast meet people to make no budget projects with
Juan Butler
>have to take Intro to Film class at college
You don't have to. You could've chosen to study a real subject.
Luke Brown
You know who else thinks liberal arts and creative professions are worthless? Chinks and poos. That's why their culture sucks aside from food and they don't make anything good and they don't have any good actors.
Ethan Carter
Post an actual critique instead of a hot take or fuck off to the eternal capeshit threads you have in your other tabs you mouthbreathing dipshit.
Thomas Robinson
Plebs getting buttblasted about the ending is one of my favourite parts of the show.
Colton Wilson
OP here. I'm currently attending a CUNY college. Idk if all colleges need to follow a specific curriculum, but it looks like it's a thing CUNY schools are required to do.
I even have to take a fucking Gender Studies class because it fulfills 2 requirements I need: "Contemporary World" and "Plurism and Diversity"
Luke Wood
Mmmmmmmmmmm S1 Nude Carrie
Justin Martin
you're the most mentally ill person thats ever posted on 4channel
Brody Rogers
I think Cinema classes show it just to use as an example of camera techniques and framing.
Alexander Wilson
>no no rajeep/chang, you cannot be an actor, you must be an engineer or a doctor, we did not come to this country so you could throw it all away like this
that's what you sound like
Aiden Cooper
you're right. Im 28 and I have been out of school for 6 years now. I didn't even make a single friend or connection for all 4 years at my nothing school. I've been working a horrible manual labor job for free to support my dying parents ever since, no friends, havent been laid in 8 years, have nothing to show for my entire time at school. Im in debt, I still can't even finish my script that I have been working on since 2011. Movies are all I have and care about. My only joy is that I get to come home after working for 10 hours of manual labor and I get to watch 2 movies before I go to sleep and have to be up at 5 AM every day, 7 days a week. I havent had a day off or vacation in almost 4 years now. I don't know why I'm still folling myself that I will ever be able to write anything. I'm never gonna give up because I am a delusional retard, and my parents are probably gonna die soon and I will be alone. My old friends want nothing to do with me because they have actual lives and find me embarrassing, and I still don't want a normal 9 to 5 job. Should I just kill myself?
Jaxson Roberts
Lol after we watched the first 2 episodes, our lecture class did a breakdown of the intro. Our first writing assignment was to give an analysis as to why the intro was so effective and what kind of impression it gives audiences, so we had to watch the intro credits over and over.
Dylan Gutierrez
user like every college diploma requires gen eds and electives
Lucas Long
Hold on to the things you love, user.
Jaxson Reed
>I even have to take a fucking Gender Studies class because it fulfills 2 requirements I need: "Contemporary World" and "Plurism and Diversity"
You poor bastard.
Ayden Smith
The season two intro would have made for a much better assignment IMO
Alexander Evans
Let me guess. Your script is not realisable. It's some high concept idea requiring a large budget and far over 5-10 minutes, likely even feature length
Jacob Bennett
yes. i have gone through 5 drafts and Im still not satisfied with it. im currently trying to turn it into a series, but the days are getting shorter and I'm probably gonna be homeless before Im 30. everything in my life is telling me to stop, but i still refuse to. i know im a loser faggot retard, but i still can't stop working on it. all i do is work at my job, work on my terrible writing, and watch movies. Yet i still know it could be much much worse, and most likely will be sooner before i know it.
Justin Jenkins
>I even have to take a fucking Gender Studies class because it fulfills 2 requirements I need: "Contemporary World" and "Plurism and Diversity" Doesn't surprise me, I was wondering to myself recently whether STEM students are able to get through college unscathed by the propaganda, I guess this is how they get them.
Michael Bell
I had to take Intro to Film because at my CUNY college you have to take a bullshit "TALA" GE requirement, which stands for "Textual Aesthetic, and Linguistic Analysis". Tala classes are basically anything that has to do with the arts. Most of the other "TALA" classes that were an option I already took to fullfil other GE classes, like Writing. The only other option was performance art, and I dont give a shit about that.
Aiden Thomas
Don't give up user. You should talk to a doctor about how you're feeling though, you will be better equipped to work on your script if you get healthy.
Jeremiah Barnes
the entertainment industry, no matter how artistic or independent or avant garde you get, is a vile disgusting subhuman medium and deserves nothing but ridicule and scorn. the fact that you're literally bragging about how much more degenerate you are than people that shit in the street is really saying something about how compromised your limbic system is. go for a walk if making these projects is a passion for you then you should stick with it. if you're trying to make a career out of it then you, and millions other like you, are in for a rude awakening. this isn't because the entertainment industry is hard to get into (it's always been that way), it's just that the positions are shrinking because zoomers are not as interested in films as they are youtube/vlogging/e-drama/media-gurus etc.. hollywood has pushed this narrative that "people are ONLY losing interested in going to the theaters, they still love movies, they just prefer to watch it at home!" when in reality it's narrative story-telling that's dying out in favor of what zoomers perceive to be more personal/honest/engaging avenues of entertainment (youtubers/ig-ers/media gurus etc)
you can still make films if you want. but you must realize that just because its easier than ever to make them, it's harder than ever to convince people to watch. not just because of saturation, but because of shifting interest. i'm talking specifically about zoomers (not the millennials responsible for capeshit constantly smashing records for number of tickets sold). they're the future. millennials and boomers are on their way out as is they're addiction to narrative films and television
Ethan Foster
>What does Yea Forums think of this series? How much more of a wild ride am I in for compared to what I've already seen?
once shock left is s1 finale with a magic negro baby the family adopts and no one ever brings up there baby is black
Landon Thomas
You can easily do that for free. I'd be really curious to find out what all these film school graduates actually do for a living afterwards. I live in a big city for film production yet not one film school in my city has ever produced a single noteworthy filmmaker.
Carter Brooks
you're totally delusional try to write something simple and under 10 minutes That is actually viable for you to make Then you could actually make it. Your life isn't over by a long shot, it's totally viable to fuck up your 20s and then start living in a furfilling way. You can even have a creative career. Even if you don't, you'll still feel good for making something, even if it doesn't lead to anything. But you're not going about it in a realizable way. You're never going to make a high budget high concept series as your first project.
If you want some examples of the kind of thing i'm talking about, watch the miniseries of High Maintenance. They made that with no money, as people in their 30s, and found an audience for it online.
Dylan Young
It's actually not as bad as I was expecting. The teacher is actually very sweet and not a raging SJW, although she comes off as a bit ditsy sometimes. Theres also a surprising amount of guys in the class. Majority of the students, including the girls, didnt want to be there, but need the requirement. We've mostly just been analyzing literature, like the novel "Like Water for Chocolate", which is also a movie from what I've heard.
Levi Lewis
most always end up working low key jobs behind the scenes for other people's films
like lighting, sound, set design, make up etc..
Cameron Lee
>you can still make films if you want. but you must realize that just because its easier than ever to make them, it's harder than ever to convince people to watch. not just because of saturation, but because of shifting interest. i'm talking specifically about zoomers (not the millennials responsible for capeshit constantly smashing records for number of tickets sold). they're the future. millennials and boomers are on their way out as is they're addiction to narrative films and television I don't think zoomers will be responsible for the death of film and television, but I do think the kind of prestige drama that used to find a comfortable mix of financial success and critical acclaim is becoming extinct, the kinds of films that made the careers of Scorsese and Tarantino. I think aspiring filmmakers today by and large have to choose between prestige dramas that are made for an increasingly shrinking audience of "coastal elites", or more lowbrow populist fare that can see success on Netflix but won't win you any awards.
Blake White
>Meeting lots of people with similiar interests and making friends with them and doing productive things together is easy. Well... yes. In a way. But many people find that extraordinarily difficult though. Actually having a forced context for it makes it a LOT easier for those people.
It's not even just about 'making it', being successful or having a viable career. Working hard at something creative has inherent value and so does creative expression and what you do with your youth doesn't have to be pragmatic or lead to anything, sometimes enjoying it is more important.
Jonathan Roberts
>the entertainment industry, no matter how artistic or independent or avant garde you get, is a vile disgusting subhuman medium and deserves nothing but ridicule and scorn. I wish you cunts didn't post on a board about film and television, when you clearly despise the medium and have no respect for creative people making stuff.
Aaron Bailey
i genuinely thank you. i know i shouldnt come here for advice or to to post my stupid blog, but this is actually useful to me.
Asher Howard
the trend concerns me desu since film is such a young medium compared to literature/music/painting etc. is it beyond saving? fuck movies and fuck television shows i unironically hope you make it. i've known a couple of people that chose to pursue film as careers. choosing to pursue your a career in the arts is a noble thing when you actually love the medium and are not getting into it for ulterior motives. wish you the best of luck bro
Dylan Smith
That's fucking repugnant, it's called intro to film not intro to contemporary HBO TV bullshit. When I attended it was focussed on the linear progression of film styles and genres starting from the inception, German expressionism then moving onto classic Hollywood, noir, horror, westerns and other international affair. We watched Modern Times, Caligari, Peeping Tom, Django, Breathless and other films that encapsulate their genres and hold high status within film history. Please fucking yell at your lecturer for me.
Jacob Diaz
>but I do think the kind of prestige drama that used to find a comfortable mix of financial success and critical acclaim is becoming extinct, the kinds of films that made the careers of Scorsese and Tarantino.
I think you've got a point, especially about film, but quality dramatic storytelling on television for a somewhat wide audience is in a real boom right now.
Competing streaming services are throwing money at it, you get things like Narcos & Mrs Maisel. Even if they largely fail to live up to the standards of the best prestige television, they are trying to create quality content. The format also works better on demand than on network television. HBO is as good as it has ever been, with series like Succession, High Maintenance, My Brilliant Friend. The Leftovers, Rectify, Mad Men & Breaking Bad were this decade. Those are absolute top shelf.
Compared to the 90s, it's bounds ahead. I think it's stronger compared to even the 'golden era' because if you look beyond the handful of HBO GOATS from then, the middling shows like Empire Falls weren't good.
Brayden Young
No worries user. Don't even concern yourself with 'making it' or not.
Hudson King
maybe try watching it again when you're older
Jayden Martin
I mean, we've watched clips from Citizen Kane and Goodfellas in our lecture portion of the class that's only 50 min, but yeah, I was hoping to watch full movies
At the beginning of every 3 hour screening, the professor does a recap of the previous episode we watched and turns it into a discussion of editing or symbolism. Today the professor talked about how the opening scene from the Baby Jesus doll episode, where it shows the baby doll being made in a factory, was an allegory for how a sex creates a baby, and then birth.
Noah Jackson
>the trend concerns me desu since film is such a young medium compared to literature/music/painting etc. is it beyond saving? Well the difference with film is that the medium through which it's consumed is already changing so rapidly from movie theatres to home streaming. Big theatres often won't bother playing anything that isn't a blockbuster capeshit, action comedy, or horror. There are still smaller theatres that play dramas but from what I've seen 90% of the attendees are old boomers. Kino will live on through streaming but it may take different forms. When you think about it there's no reason why a film has to be 90-120 minutes if it's not playing in a movie theatre, maybe we'll see longer films similar to how albums started doubling in length after vinyl was abandoned for CDs.
Jayden Bell
Fassbinder, Bergman, Jane Campion, Park Chan Wook, David Lynch, Todd Haynes, Fincher, they'd all disagree with you. They all chose to make television. They didn't do it for the money, they could have gotten any film project they wanted financed.
Well really we're already seeing the change in length. Streaming shows are essentially 8-12 hour movies, broken into 8-12 digestible "acts" that naturally flow into each other as if you're watching a film. I don't think the switch to streaming will kill drama/ high concept though, there's still demand for them on streaming platforms.
Juan Hill
miniseries are essentially 6 hours long movies
most longer shows aren't really the same structure and don't have a tight narrative, put a lot of side 'filler' in there and are also far more repetitive
Isaiah Murphy
but yeah you're basically right
it is kind off odd that a generation with a supposedly short attention span, who mostly wouldn't dream of watching a 3 hour long movie, is very happy to marathon 3+ hours of television
Christopher Cook
Short attention span is a meme. Millenials and Zoomers are the overwhelming audience of podcasts, streaming, twitch.tv, etc. The platforms and mediums that offer up the most long-form content available. Meanwhile Boomers needs commercial breaks and sound bytes to get through 10 minutes of cable television.
Aaron Reyes
The Leftovers are "the leftovers" of lost
shit show trying to replicate the success of lost, by subverting the one common trope of lost, in that instead of answering questions (which were received negatively back in LOST days) just tell audience to fuck off and "let the mystery be"
lindelof is a hack that ruined multiple shows, alien franchise, and brad bird career. he's pure cancer
Justin Edwards
your tears add to my opinion of The Leftovers' greatness